QRead and automatic language switching


Sally Kiebdaj
 

Hello all,


Have any of you using QRead also tried reading a document in multiple languages?


I am testing it out with a textbook that automatically switches between English and German when opened in Adobe. However, it defaults to English entirely when opened in QRead.


Is this something inherent to the program and how it presents documents or is there a setting I need to tweak?


Thank you,

Sally


John Isige
 

Automatic language switching works because the document is coded for it. I'm guessing that QRead is just getting the text out of the PDF file and it's not responding to those codes, either because it just doesn't or because they're no longer there. So you'd have to contact the developer about adding that feature.

So for example, even if I have automatic language switching turned on and I write "es drickst de ganze Daag", it won't read that with a German voice, because it's not coded as German, as it might be on a website. Well OK, it's Deitsch (Pennsylvania Dutch/German), so it might not recognize it even if it was coded, but still.

On 11/13/2017 17:11, Sally Kiebdaj wrote:
Hello all,


Have any of you using QRead also tried reading a document in multiple languages?


I am testing it out with a textbook that automatically switches between English and German when opened in Adobe. However, it defaults to English entirely when opened in QRead.


Is this something inherent to the program and how it presents documents or is there a setting I need to tweak?


Thank you,

Sally



Cristóbal
 

I know with Jaws, you can associate a voice profile with a particular aplication. I’m not versed enough in NVDA to know whether this is possible. With Jaws at
least, you could in theory within QRead open the voice profile dialog and select a previously created language profile. In this case German.

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Automatic language switching works because the document is coded for it.
I'm guessing that QRead is just getting the text out of the PDF file and it's not responding to those codes, either because it just doesn't or because they're no longer there. So you'd have to contact the developer about adding that feature.

So for example, even if I have automatic language switching turned on and I write "es drickst de ganze Daag", it won't read that with a German voice, because it's not coded as German, as it might be on a website.
Well OK, it's Deitsch (Pennsylvania Dutch/German), so it might not recognize it even if it was coded, but still.

On 11/13/2017 17:11, Sally Kiebdaj wrote:
Hello all,


Have any of you using QRead also tried reading a document in multiple
languages?


I am testing it out with a textbook that automatically switches
between English and German when opened in Adobe. However, it defaults
to English entirely when opened in QRead.


Is this something inherent to the program and how it presents
documents or is there a setting I need to tweak?


Thank you,

Sally




Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Hello,


I've also used Qread for years, but I don't think you can switch languages automatically, because the language tags that cause that to happen are probably removed when the text is parsed by Qread.


In actual fact, though, I've never really tried, so I can't be absolutely sure of this.


I'll test it and report back.

I have disabled the automatic language detection at the moment. I'll test and report back.

Ciao,
Ollie

Il 14/11/2017 00:11, Sally Kiebdaj ha scritto:
Hello all,


Have any of you using QRead also tried reading a document in multiple languages?


I am testing it out with a textbook that automatically switches between English and German when opened in Adobe. However, it defaults to English entirely when opened in QRead.


Is this something inherent to the program and how it presents documents or is there a setting I need to tweak?


Thank you,

Sally




Sally Kiebdaj
 

Thank you all,


I had a feeling that the language tags were being stripped but was hopeful it might be a setting as I would really like to be able to use this application. For now, though, most of the PDFs I read are bilingual and switch synth is a bit too cumbersome to use every other line.


If anyone finds a way to make it work, lemme know. Otherwise, thank you for confirming my suspicions.


Cheers,

Sally

On 11/14/2017 5:41 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hello,


I've also used Qread for years, but I don't think you can switch languages automatically, because the language tags that cause that to happen are probably removed when the text is parsed by Qread.


In actual fact, though, I've never really tried, so I can't be absolutely sure of this.


I'll test it and report back.

I have disabled the automatic language detection at the moment. I'll test and report back.

Ciao,
Ollie




Il 14/11/2017 00:11, Sally Kiebdaj ha scritto:
Hello all,


Have any of you using QRead also tried reading a document in multiple languages?


I am testing it out with a textbook that automatically switches between English and German when opened in Adobe. However, it defaults to English entirely when opened in QRead.


Is this something inherent to the program and how it presents documents or is there a setting I need to tweak?


Thank you,

Sally






John Isige
 

The only you'll get it to work, I'm pretty sure, is to contact the developer and request the feature. In theory at least, it shouldn't be too difficult, since the language tagging in whatever format supports it should be pretty standard and thus easy to recognize. The trick would be to keep it and not have it displayed but sent to the synth/screen reader. But it doesn't seem impossible to manage at least. Whether he'll be interested in doing it is another matter, but I'd at least request it.

On 11/15/2017 15:16, Sally Kiebdaj wrote:
Thank you all,


I had a feeling that the language tags were being stripped but was hopeful it might be a setting as I would really like to be able to use this application. For now, though, most of the PDFs I read are bilingual and switch synth is a bit too cumbersome to use every other line.


If anyone finds a way to make it work, lemme know. Otherwise, thank you for confirming my suspicions.


Cheers,

Sally


On 11/14/2017 5:41 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hello,


I've also used Qread for years, but I don't think you can switch languages automatically, because the language tags that cause that to happen are probably removed when the text is parsed by Qread.


In actual fact, though, I've never really tried, so I can't be absolutely sure of this.


I'll test it and report back.

I have disabled the automatic language detection at the moment. I'll test and report back.

Ciao,
Ollie




Il 14/11/2017 00:11, Sally Kiebdaj ha scritto:
Hello all,


Have any of you using QRead also tried reading a document in multiple languages?


I am testing it out with a textbook that automatically switches between English and German when opened in Adobe. However, it defaults to English entirely when opened in QRead.


Is this something inherent to the program and how it presents documents or is there a setting I need to tweak?


Thank you,

Sally