info difference depending on manner of navigation
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Hi all,
this is just a curiosity question ... I was looking at a website called People Per Hour, a site for freelance jobs. I've only just joined and was investigating the various links on one of the pages. I don't know what you will find if you're not a member, but this is the page I was on: https://www.peopleperhour.com/freelance-jobs/writing/creative-writing/poetic-content-2493637 Down at the bottom of the page are links to the People Per Hour social media profiles. There are Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and Instagram. What I noticed the first time, navigating down the page with the down cursor arrow, is that NVDA just says "link", "link", "link" and "link". The second time I navigated that part of the page I used the k shortcut key and when I navigate that way I hear "link Facebook", "link Twitter", "link LinkedIn" and "link Instagram". Why does NVDA describe the link when using the k shortcut when it doesn't when navigating line by line with the up and down cursor keys or doing read all? I wasn't aware of any mechanism like ALT tags for graphics for adding extra info to links that aren't graphical. Giles
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Sascha Cowley
Hi Giles, This is usually because the link is described via the `title` attribute, which?? is advantageous in that it often results in a tooltip appearing with the `title` when the link is hovered or focused. As for why NVDA behaves like this, I'm not sure; though I have observed this behaviour too. I'd conjecture that it has something to do with the focus state of the link activating the tooltip or not, except that I don't think the announcement of the `title` is affected by the announcement of tooltips setting.
On 30/12/2019 04:07, Giles Turnbull
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Hi all,
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Jonathan COHN
This is hard to guess without seeing the actual HTML on the web page. I have seen some social links like this that are a i frame with just a link in them and have found those to speak strangely though I don’t remember which screen I was using at the time. You might be able to find out some information with object navigation. I would try using the “k” command to move to the link and then hit insert-numpad up to move to the containing object and see what it says. Jonathan C. Cohn
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External email alert: Be wary of links & attachments. Hi all,
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Hi Jonathan,
using object navigation produced exactly the same result as using the cursor keys ... NVDA said "link" but nothing about what it is a link to. Only using the k shortcut keystroke added the information like Facebook and Twitter. Giles
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Jonathan COHN
I looked at these links. In Chrome, NVDA was reading them correctly for me. In Firefox, I saw the behavior you described.
Looking at the HTML rather than putting text into the <a> element, the designer used title to label the links. SO, my guess is that when focus is placed on the links with either k or tab, they are spoken but not when using the browse mode. I don’t know if this is a Firefox or NVDA bug. Jonathan
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External email alert: Be wary of links & attachments. Hi Jonathan,
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