Finding text in an email
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Janet Brandly
Hello all,
Many emails I get contain logos and other types of graphics. I’m using Outlook 2019. Is there an NVDA key command to bypass the graphics and navigate directly to the text? The “read all” command does not work reliably.
Thanks, Jan |
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Antony Stone
My recommendation is to turn off HTML mode.
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That not only disables pointless graphics, but also avoids quite a number of malware and phishing attempts. I can't tell you how to do this in Outlook 2019 specifically (maybe someone else here can), but it might give you a good pointer for what to look for in the menus. PS: On this topic, *please* can people on this list avoid sending HTML-only (rather than either text-only or mixed text+HTML) emails? Plenty of people disable HTML emails by default, and especially on this list, I don't see any good reason for sending such emails. Thanks in advance :) Antony. On Wednesday 01 January 2020 at 20:39:09, Janet Brandly wrote:
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Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Martin and Jan,
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I find that the read all command will work in a message that is in HTML format. You do have to wait for the cursor to pass beyond the image to start speaking. This is, of course, an awful nuisance if you are trying to get through emails as fast as possible! Anyway, you can easily change your Outlook options to view all emails in Plain text as follows: 1. select "File" > "Options". 2. Select "Mail" in the left pane. 3. In the "Compose messages" section, change the "Compose messages in this format:" to "Plain Text". All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony Stone Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 7:51 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding text in an email My recommendation is to turn off HTML mode. That not only disables pointless graphics, but also avoids quite a number of malware and phishing attempts. I can't tell you how to do this in Outlook 2019 specifically (maybe someone else here can), but it might give you a good pointer for what to look for in the menus. PS: On this topic, *please* can people on this list avoid sending HTML-only (rather than either text-only or mixed text+HTML) emails? Plenty of people disable HTML emails by default, and especially on this list, I don't see any good reason for sending such emails. Thanks in advance :) Antony. On Wednesday 01 January 2020 at 20:39:09, Janet Brandly wrote: Hello all,-- If you can't find an Open Source solution for it, then it isn't a real problem. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. |
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Telling anyone to avoid HTML e-mail at this point in history (and by avoid I don't mean changing how one might choose to view messages) is an exercise in futility, to put it mildly. It can also result in a major loss of content and actual ease of access from many e-mail messages.
HTML format has been the de facto convention for a very long time now. Most screen readers seem to do quite well with it, in my observation, and they'd have to since the vast majority of e-mail messages these days involve HTML formatting. The HTML ship has sailed and the days of the plain-text dinghy are never coming back - at least if one wishes to conform oneself to the wider world as it is. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor. ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)
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Rui Fontes
You have a NVDA command in browse mode, n, that jumps the blocks of links, graphics and so on going to the next text.
You also have an add-on, browsernav, with a command to the same purpose, but mor efficient…
Rui Fontes
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Janet Brandly
Hello all,
Many emails I get contain logos and other types of graphics. I’m using Outlook 2019. Is there an NVDA key command to bypass the graphics and navigate directly to the text? The “read all” command does not work reliably.
Thanks, Jan |
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Gene
If you read e-mail as plain text, you might not see
all those graphics, I'm not sure. But you might try it. Or you could
try something like searching for a very commmon word such as "the." Since
so many sentences have that word, you will likely be placed close to the
beginning of text.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
From: Janet Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 1:39 PM
Subject: [nvda] Finding text in an email Hello all,
Many emails I get contain logos and other types of graphics. I’m using Outlook 2019. Is there an NVDA key command to bypass the graphics and navigate directly to the text? The “read all” command does not work reliably.
Thanks, Jan |
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Gene
I doubt that modern e-mail programs are very
susceptible to the kinds of attacks that might be tried when reading messages as
HTML. That is, if using the default settings which block external
content. And Thunderbird has simple HTML which only shows the text of a
message using the HTML used to format the text but not running anything
else. Others may have more technical knowledge on the topic and may agree
and disagree but it is my understanding that e-mail programs are well protected
these days. Also, I suspect that HTML e-mail attacks are seldom used these
days because e-mail programs are quite secure and because you can get so much
better results with phishing campaigns.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding text in an email I find that the read all command will work in a message that is in HTML format. You do have to wait for the cursor to pass beyond the image to start speaking. This is, of course, an awful nuisance if you are trying to get through emails as fast as possible! Anyway, you can easily change your Outlook options to view all emails in Plain text as follows: 1. select "File" > "Options". 2. Select "Mail" in the left pane. 3. In the "Compose messages" section, change the "Compose messages in this format:" to "Plain Text". All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony Stone Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 7:51 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding text in an email My recommendation is to turn off HTML mode. That not only disables pointless graphics, but also avoids quite a number of malware and phishing attempts. I can't tell you how to do this in Outlook 2019 specifically (maybe someone else here can), but it might give you a good pointer for what to look for in the menus. PS: On this topic, *please* can people on this list avoid sending HTML-only (rather than either text-only or mixed text+HTML) emails? Plenty of people disable HTML emails by default, and especially on this list, I don't see any good reason for sending such emails. Thanks in advance :) Antony. On Wednesday 01 January 2020 at 20:39:09, Janet Brandly wrote: > Hello all, > > > > Many emails I get contain logos and other types of graphics. I'm using > Outlook 2019. Is there an NVDA key command to bypass the graphics and > navigate directly to the text? The "read all" command does not work > reliably. > > > > Thanks, > > Jan > > > -- If you can't find an Open Source solution for it, then it isn't a real problem. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. |
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Peter Beasley
I get e-mails from various organisations that contain graphics that contain links. How can I activate these links?
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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 01 January 2020 20:57 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding text in an email
Telling anyone to avoid HTML e-mail at this point in history (and by avoid I don't mean changing how one might choose to view messages) is an exercise in futility, to put it mildly. It can also result in a major loss of content and actual ease of access from many e-mail messages. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor. ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)
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Janet Brandly
Thank you Rui, I’ll check this out.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 3:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding text in an email
You have a NVDA command in browse mode, n, that jumps the blocks of links, graphics and so on going to the next text.
You also have an add-on, browsernav, with a command to the same purpose, but mor efficient…
Rui Fontes
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Janet Brandly
Hello all,
Many emails I get contain logos and other types of graphics. I’m using Outlook 2019. Is there an NVDA key command to bypass the graphics and navigate directly to the text? The “read all” command does not work reliably.
Thanks, Jan |
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