Purchasing Eloquence
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Dan Kerstetter
Hello all.
Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence speech synthesizer? I’ve been to the code factory site; downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to register/purchase it.
Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my show: A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That Monday at 5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight radio.
http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio
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atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. Their support is good.
On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter
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Pascal Lambert
Hi, I just downloaded from Atguys.com. I installed the add-on and each time I clicked On “try” I got the message that my internet is not connected. Then it locked my system that I had to start my computer. So I am unable to try the voices before I decide if it is worth purchasing. Anyone experience the problem? Blessings Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. Their support is good.
On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:
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Pascal Lambert
Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices? Thanks Blessings Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. Their support is good.
On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:
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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to make those changes.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: coccinelle@...
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices? Thanks Blessings Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. Their support is good.
On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:
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John Isige
Uh, no you don't. I can make those changes from the synth settings ring
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or the menus just fine. You've been able to do that since I bought it, and I think I'm up to version 1.6.6 or something. Unless they made a new version and broke something in the last month or so, you should be able to change settings without opening Eloquence. I only open mine if I need to deactivate before a major Windows update, and reactivate afterwards.
On 1/10/2020 0:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
I just purchased mine and no matter what I do if I press NVDA+ctrl+the arrow keys the changes do not take affect. If I press NVDA+ctrl+v and make changes they are not taking affect. Only when I open Sappi5 eloquence. On Code factory’s page I don’t recall seeing a choice between Sappi5 and NVDA. Only eloquence for windows.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: John Isige
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 1:12 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
Uh, no you don't. I can make those changes from the synth settings ring or the menus just fine. You've been able to do that since I bought it, and I think I'm up to version 1.6.6 or something. Unless they made a new version and broke something in the last month or so, you should be able to change settings without opening Eloquence. I only open mine if I need to deactivate before a major Windows update, and reactivate afterwards.
On 1/10/2020 0:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote: > > What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability > to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to > make those changes. > > ****** > > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for > you! > > *From: *coccinelle@... <mailto:coccinelle@...> > *Sent: *Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices? > > Thanks > > Blessings > > Pascal > > *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Shaun > Everiss > *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. > > Their support is good. > > On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote: > > Hello all. > > Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence > speech synthesizer? I’ve been to the code factory site; > downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to > register/purchase it. > > Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my > show: A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That Monday at > 5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight > radio. > > http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio > >
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Pascal Lambert
Hi, I just downloaded the Code Factory Eloquent NVDA add-on NVDA and installed it. I selected Tom voice and installed it. However, I am unable to install any other voice to try and compare. Any feedback is appreciated. Blessings Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 9:15 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
I just purchased mine and no matter what I do if I press NVDA+ctrl+the arrow keys the changes do not take affect. If I press NVDA+ctrl+v and make changes they are not taking affect. Only when I open Sappi5 eloquence. On Code factory’s page I don’t recall seeing a choice between Sappi5 and NVDA. Only eloquence for windows.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: John Isige
Uh, no you don't. I can make those changes from the synth settings ring or the menus just fine. You've been able to do that since I bought it, and I think I'm up to version 1.6.6 or something. Unless they made a new version and broke something in the last month or so, you should be able to change settings without opening Eloquence. I only open mine if I need to deactivate before a major Windows update, and reactivate afterwards.
On 1/10/2020 0:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote: > > What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability > to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to > make those changes. > > ****** > > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for > you! > > *From: *coccinelle@... <mailto:coccinelle@...> > *Sent: *Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices? > > Thanks > > Blessings > > Pascal > > *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Shaun > Everiss > *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. > > Their support is good. > > On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote: > > Hello all. > > Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence > speech synthesizer? I’ve been to the code factory site; > downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to > register/purchase it. > > Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my > show: A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That Monday at > 5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight > radio. > > http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio > >
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Gene
If you want to use the MSAPI voices with more than
one program, you may do so. The NVDA add-on only works with NVDA. I
have the impression that the price is about the same.
Also, the NVDA add-on allows you to use another
series of voices, that, while you may like them, I consider very annoying, as I
do most of the newer synthesized speech. But if you want more voices for
your money, usable only with NVDA, you will get that.
Gene
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From: coccinelle@...
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices? Thanks Blessings Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shaun Everiss
atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. Their support is good.
On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:
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Gene
Do you mean you have to open NVDA settings or
Eloquence settings? There are both options. I don't set such
settings using the NVDA settings ring but I never had problems doing so opening
NVDA settings and changing them there.
Gene
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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to make those changes.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: coccinelle@...
Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices? Thanks Blessings Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. Their support is good.
On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:
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Gene
Check the settings in the actual Eloquence program
itself. I've used the demo but I didn't work with the settings enough to
remember how you get to this one. But in the settings for the voices
themselves, there is a force setting. Make sure it is off. Force
causes the voices to disregard screen-reader settings and use settings for the
voices themselves. It is off by default but yours may be on for some
reason.
Gene
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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence I just purchased mine and no matter what I do if I press NVDA+ctrl+the arrow keys the changes do not take affect. If I press NVDA+ctrl+v and make changes they are not taking affect. Only when I open Sappi5 eloquence. On Code factory’s page I don’t recall seeing a choice between Sappi5 and NVDA. Only eloquence for windows.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: John
Isige
Uh, no you don't. I can make those changes from the synth settings ring or the menus just fine. You've been able to do that since I bought it, and I think I'm up to version 1.6.6 or something. Unless they made a new version and broke something in the last month or so, you should be able to change settings without opening Eloquence. I only open mine if I need to deactivate before a major Windows update, and reactivate afterwards.
On 1/10/2020 0:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote: > > What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability > to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to > make those changes. > > ****** > > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for > you! > > *From: *coccinelle@... <mailto:coccinelle@...> > *Sent: *Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices? > > Thanks > > Blessings > > Pascal > > *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Shaun > Everiss > *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. > > Their support is good. > > On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote: > > Hello all. > > Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence > speech synthesizer? I’ve been to the code factory site; > downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to > register/purchase it. > > Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my > show: A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That Monday at > 5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight > radio. > > http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio > >
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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
With the Sappi5 version I purchased from Code Factory, “eloquence for Windows”, When I do the standard ways of changing rate or volume nothing happens. I wind up having to open eloquence to make the changes.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 9:08 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
Do you mean you have to open NVDA settings or Eloquence settings? There are both options. I don't set such settings using the NVDA settings ring but I never had problems doing so opening NVDA settings and changing them there.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to make those changes.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: coccinelle@...
Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices? Thanks Blessings Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. Their support is good.
On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:
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Yeah you need to change all the eloquence stuff from its control panel.
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This interestingly does not apply to vocaliser, but yeah you need to change voices to.
On 11/01/2020, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
With the Sappi5 version I purchased from Code Factory, “eloquence for
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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
I figured it out. If I set anything in eloquence it over rides the NVDA settings.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 10:34 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
Check the settings in the actual Eloquence program itself. I've used the demo but I didn't work with the settings enough to remember how you get to this one. But in the settings for the voices themselves, there is a force setting. Make sure it is off. Force causes the voices to disregard screen-reader settings and use settings for the voices themselves. It is off by default but yours may be on for some reason.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
I just purchased mine and no matter what I do if I press NVDA+ctrl+the arrow keys the changes do not take affect. If I press NVDA+ctrl+v and make changes they are not taking affect. Only when I open Sappi5 eloquence. On Code factory’s page I don’t recall seeing a choice between Sappi5 and NVDA. Only eloquence for windows.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: John Isige
Uh, no you don't. I can make those changes from the synth settings ring or the menus just fine. You've been able to do that since I bought it, and I think I'm up to version 1.6.6 or something. Unless they made a new version and broke something in the last month or so, you should be able to change settings without opening Eloquence. I only open mine if I need to deactivate before a major Windows update, and reactivate afterwards.
On 1/10/2020 0:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote: > > What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability > to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to > make those changes. > > ****** > > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for > you! > > *From: *coccinelle@... <mailto:coccinelle@...> > *Sent: *Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices? > > Thanks > > Blessings > > Pascal > > *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Shaun > Everiss > *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. > > Their support is good. > > On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote: > > Hello all. > > Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence > speech synthesizer? I’ve been to the code factory site; > downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to > register/purchase it. > > Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my > show: A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That Monday at > 5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight > radio. > > http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio > >
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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
I just posted moments ago that I just learned that the eloquence settings override the NVDA settings.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 6:23 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
Yeah you need to change all the eloquence stuff from its control panel. This interestingly does not apply to vocaliser, but yeah you need to change voices to.
On 11/01/2020, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote: > With the Sappi5 version I purchased from Code Factory, “eloquence for > Windows”, When I do the standard ways of changing rate or volume nothing > happens. I wind up having to open eloquence to make the changes. > > ****** > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for > you! > > > From: Gene > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 9:08 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > Do you mean you have to open NVDA settings or Eloquence settings? There are > both options. I don't set such settings using the NVDA settings ring but I > never had problems doing so opening NVDA settings and changing them there. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 12:16 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability to > change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to make > those changes. > > ****** > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for > you! > > > From: coccinelle@... > Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices? > Thanks > Blessings > Pascal > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss > Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. > Their support is good. > > > On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote: > Hello all. > > Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence speech > synthesizer? I’ve been to the code factory site; downloaded eloquence from > their app store, but don’t know how to register/purchase it. > > Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my show: A > Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That Monday at 5:00 eastern and > Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight radio. > > http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio > > > > > > > >
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Gene
I never had to do any such things unless the force
settings were on. I would suggest looking for those settings.
Gene
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This interestingly does not apply to vocaliser, but yeah you need to change voices to. On 11/01/2020, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote: > With the Sappi5 version I purchased from Code Factory, “eloquence for > Windows”, When I do the standard ways of changing rate or volume nothing > happens. I wind up having to open eloquence to make the changes. > > ****** > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for > you! > > > From: Gene > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 9:08 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > Do you mean you have to open NVDA settings or Eloquence settings? There are > both options. I don't set such settings using the NVDA settings ring but I > never had problems doing so opening NVDA settings and changing them there. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 12:16 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability to > change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to make > those changes. > > ****** > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for > you! > > > From: coccinelle@... > Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices? > Thanks > Blessings > Pascal > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss > Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. > Their support is good. > > > On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote: > Hello all. > > Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence speech > synthesizer? I’ve been to the code factory site; downloaded eloquence from > their app store, but don’t know how to register/purchase it. > > Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my show: A > Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That Monday at 5:00 eastern and > Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight radio. > > http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio > > > > > > > >
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Gene
Maybe if you set anything in NVDA, it turns the
force settings on.
Gene
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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence I figured it out. If I set anything in eloquence it over rides the NVDA settings.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: Gene
Check the settings in the actual Eloquence program itself. I've used the demo but I didn't work with the settings enough to remember how you get to this one. But in the settings for the voices themselves, there is a force setting. Make sure it is off. Force causes the voices to disregard screen-reader settings and use settings for the voices themselves. It is off by default but yours may be on for some reason.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
I just purchased mine and no matter what I do if I press NVDA+ctrl+the arrow keys the changes do not take affect. If I press NVDA+ctrl+v and make changes they are not taking affect. Only when I open Sappi5 eloquence. On Code factory’s page I don’t recall seeing a choice between Sappi5 and NVDA. Only eloquence for windows.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: John
Isige
Uh, no you don't. I can make those changes from the synth settings ring or the menus just fine. You've been able to do that since I bought it, and I think I'm up to version 1.6.6 or something. Unless they made a new version and broke something in the last month or so, you should be able to change settings without opening Eloquence. I only open mine if I need to deactivate before a major Windows update, and reactivate afterwards.
On 1/10/2020 0:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote: > > What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability > to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to > make those changes. > > ****** > > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for > you! > > *From: *coccinelle@... <mailto:coccinelle@...> > *Sent: *Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices? > > Thanks > > Blessings > > Pascal > > *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Shaun > Everiss > *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. > > Their support is good. > > On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote: > > Hello all. > > Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence > speech synthesizer? I’ve been to the code factory site; > downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to > register/purchase it. > > Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my > show: A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That Monday at > 5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight > radio. > > http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio > >
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John Isige
It shouldn't. If you tab through when you open the Eloquence program,
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there are three checkboxes, "force pitch settings", "force speech rate", and "force volume". If all of them are unchecked, NVDA should be able to change all of those settings and the changes should stay in place.
On 1/10/2020 19:55, Gene wrote:
Maybe if you set anything in NVDA, it turns the force settings on.
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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
That is what I discovered. When they were checked NVDA could not change anything.
****** character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
From: John Isige
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 10:01 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
It shouldn't. If you tab through when you open the Eloquence program, there are three checkboxes, "force pitch settings", "force speech rate", and "force volume". If all of them are unchecked, NVDA should be able to change all of those settings and the changes should stay in place.
On 1/10/2020 19:55, Gene wrote: > Maybe if you set anything in NVDA, it turns the force settings on. > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Robert Doc Wright godfearer <mailto:godfearer@...> > *Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2020 7:21 PM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > I figured it out. If I set anything in eloquence it over rides the > NVDA settings. > > ****** > > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for > you! > > *From: *Gene <mailto:gsasner@...> > *Sent: *Friday, January 10, 2020 10:34 AM > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > Check the settings in the actual Eloquence program itself. I've used > the demo but I didn't work with the settings enough to remember how > you get to this one. But in the settings for the voices themselves, > there is a force setting. Make sure it is off. Force causes the > voices to disregard screen-reader settings and use settings for the > voices themselves. It is off by default but yours may be on for some > reason. > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:*Robert Doc Wright godfearer <mailto:godfearer@...> > > *Sent:*Friday, January 10, 2020 8:14 AM > > *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > > *Subject:*Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > I just purchased mine and no matter what I do if I press NVDA+ctrl+the > arrow keys the changes do not take affect. If I press NVDA+ctrl+v and > make changes they are not taking affect. Only when I open Sappi5 > eloquence. On Code factory’s page I don’t recall seeing a choice > between Sappi5 and NVDA. Only eloquence for windows. > > ****** > > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for > you! > > *From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...> > *Sent: *Friday, January 10, 2020 1:12 AM > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > Uh, no you don't. I can make those changes from the synth settings ring > > or the menus just fine. You've been able to do that since I bought it, > > and I think I'm up to version 1.6.6 or something. Unless they made a new > > version and broke something in the last month or so, you should be able > > to change settings without opening Eloquence. I only open mine if I need > > to deactivate before a major Windows update, and reactivate afterwards. > > On 1/10/2020 0:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote: > > > > > > What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability > > > to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to > > > make those changes. > > > > > > ****** > > > > > > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for > > > you! > > > > > > *From: *coccinelle@... <mailto:coccinelle@...> > > > *Sent: *Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM > > > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > > > *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > > > > > Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Blessings > > > > > > Pascal > > > > > > *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Shaun > > > Everiss > > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM > > > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io > > > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence > > > > > > atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions. > > > > > > Their support is good. > > > > > > On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote: > > > > > > Hello all. > > > > > > Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence > > > speech synthesizer? I’ve been to the code factory site; > > > downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to > > > register/purchase it. > > > > > > Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my > > > show: A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That Monday at > > > 5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight > > > radio. > > > > > > http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio > > > > > > > >
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John Isige
The one thing NVDA can't change, as far as I know, is the "voice
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profile" in the advanced section of the Eloquence program. It's where you pick voices like Reed, Gramma, and so on. I've never seen a reason to change from the default myself, but it's there if anybody wants it, and so far as I know,, you can only do that from the Eloquence program itself.
On 1/11/2020 4:14 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
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