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NVDA and zoom


ken lawrence
 

Hi list ken here with a question.  Was just now taking a look at the zoom site to see how it worked online.  I have attended a couple NFB virtual events but by phone.  Is there any instruction on how to use zoom if I want to go online rather than the phone and is there any add on with NVDA that might be useful on it?  With all the coronavirus stuff wiping out events we are going to be using zoom quite a bit I think.  We have an account now for our state affiliate of NFB with all the conference call lines tied up. Also our national convention will be virtual this year. 

 

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Lino Morales
 

At starting poing is downloading for free Jonathan Mosen’s audio book called Meet Me In the Cloud at:

www.mosen.org/zoom

Happy listening.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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From: ken lawrence via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 5:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and zoom

 

Hi list ken here with a question.  Was just now taking a look at the zoom site to see how it worked online.  I have attended a couple NFB virtual events but by phone.  Is there any instruction on how to use zoom if I want to go online rather than the phone and is there any add on with NVDA that might be useful on it?  With all the coronavirus stuff wiping out events we are going to be using zoom quite a bit I think.  We have an account now for our state affiliate of NFB with all the conference call lines tied up. Also our national convention will be virtual this year. 

 

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Gene
 

This is a detailed description of how to use most of the basics of Zoom.  Zoom is generally accessible and you don’t use screen-reader commands to work with the interface.  Therefore, future discussion should be moved to the chat room.  This is a long message.  those not interested in Zoom may want to skip the rest.
 
Install the program.  Unfortunately, due to ;poor design, you can’t see the interface you will be using during a meeting until you are able to connect to a meeting and in general, when a meeting isn’t in progress, the server is not available so you get a waiting for server message and can’t see the interface.  Once you can connect to a meeting, a screen comes up you can tab around and make certain choices.  You can also test your audio and your microphone.
You can then join the meeting but the program must see the server before it brings up this screen.  Why is the program designed in that way?  there should be some way that the program opens and shows the interface and allows you to do these things before you are in a meeting.
 
Once you have done the things you choose to do in the first screen and you have joined. tab around.  You will see a lot of things.  Everyone can speak and be heard without taking actions unless the moderator mutes users.  I suppose that individual users can be muted but in the very few meetings I have attended, I’ve only seen either everyone muted or no one muted.  There is a place you can tab to where you set your program to mute or unmute yourself.  If you are muted by the owner, you can’t unmute yourself.  If you try, you will get a message that you are muted by the owner and there is an ok button.
If you are not muted by the host, you can mute yourself and unmute yourself when you wish.
 
I consider this bad design.  Everyone should have to take an action when they want to speak such as hold a control key and they could keep the talking setting locked on for long presentations, say minutes.  But having everyone unmuted by default, hearing [people move or do something with their microphone, in a meeting I attended, I repeatedly heard someone rub or cover their microphone for a moment, then uncover it again over and over.  I heard a dog bark and I heard other things.  This unmuting everyone by default is bad design. 
 
You will see a full screen button.  Pushing it, use the space bar on buttons, will show you more options as you tab around.
 
If you want to know how to use the sending text messages function, I’ll explain it if you ask in the chat group.  I haven’t used it enough to explain every detail but I can explain how to find what you want by looking around and taking the action you want.  If you get into something and you tab around and don’t get back to the main screen, press escape one or more times until you tab and you are back on that screen.
 
There are a lot of short cut commands.  If you do a search for something like Zoom keyboard shortcuts, you will find pages listing some or all of them.  I haven’t used Zoom enough to have wanted to know much about these. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 4:42 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and zoom
 

Hi list ken here with a question.  Was just now taking a look at the zoom site to see how it worked online.  I have attended a couple NFB virtual events but by phone.  Is there any instruction on how to use zoom if I want to go online rather than the phone and is there any add on with NVDA that might be useful on it?  With all the coronavirus stuff wiping out events we are going to be using zoom quite a bit I think.  We have an account now for our state affiliate of NFB with all the conference call lines tied up. Also our national convention will be virtual this year. 

 

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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


Zoom is quite accessible with NVDA. I have been using it off and on since last April.
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!

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Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 3:42 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and zoom

Hi list ken here with a question.  Was just now taking a look at the zoom site to see how it worked online.  I have attended a couple NFB virtual events but by phone.  Is there any instruction on how to use zoom if I want to go online rather than the phone and is there any add on with NVDA that might be useful on it?  With all the coronavirus stuff wiping out events we are going to be using zoom quite a bit I think.  We have an account now for our state affiliate of NFB with all the conference call lines tied up. Also our national convention will be virtual this year. 

 

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David Mehler
 

Hi,

With regards Zoom isn't there a tutorial or podcast on the subject? I
can't remember who did it.

Thanks.
Dave.

On 4/12/20, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
Zoom is quite accessible with NVDA. I have been using it off and on since
last April.
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a
situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
----- Original Message -----
From: ken lawrence via groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 3:42 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and zoom


Hi list ken here with a question. Was just now taking a look at the zoom
site to see how it worked online. I have attended a couple NFB virtual
events but by phone. Is there any instruction on how to use zoom if I want
to go online rather than the phone and is there any add on with NVDA that
might be useful on it? With all the coronavirus stuff wiping out events we
are going to be using zoom quite a bit I think. We have an account now for
our state affiliate of NFB with all the conference call lines tied up. Also
our national convention will be virtual this year.



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Stephen
 

I just tested the latest zoom with jaws, and I am able to successfully navigate text fields and use the arrow keys to review text that I have written, where as with NVDA, at least, the old version that I'm using on my old system, I am unable to handle edit fields as easily.
Is this a fault with zoom, NVDA, or jaws?
How does the latest NVDA handle text fields in zoom. Can you type things in and then review what you've typed with the arrows?
Cheers.

----- Original Message -----
From: David Mehler <dave.mehler@gmail.com>
Reply-To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 4/13/2020 7:54:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and zoom
________________________________________________________________________________

Hi,

With regards Zoom isn't there a tutorial or podcast on the subject? I
can't remember who did it.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 4/12/20, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
Zoom is quite accessible with NVDA. I have been using it off and on since
last April.
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a
situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
----- Original Message -----
From: ken lawrence via groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 3:42 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and zoom


Hi list ken here with a question. Was just now taking a look at the zoom
site to see how it worked online. I have attended a couple NFB virtual
events but by phone. Is there any instruction on how to use zoom if I want
to go online rather than the phone and is there any add on with NVDA that
might be useful on it? With all the coronavirus stuff wiping out events we
are going to be using zoom quite a bit I think. We have an account now for
our state affiliate of NFB with all the conference call lines tied up. Also
our national convention will be virtual this year.



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Stephen,

           It would really help to know what versions of JAWS, NVDA, and Windows are involved.
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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Gene
 

You don’t have to.  If you use read current line, the message will be read. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and zoom
 
I just tested the latest zoom with jaws, and I am able to successfully navigate text fields and use the arrow keys to review text that I have written, where as with NVDA, at least, the old version that I'm using on my old system, I am unable to handle edit fields as easily.
Is this a fault with zoom, NVDA, or jaws?
How does the latest NVDA handle text fields in zoom.  Can you type things in and then review what you've typed with the arrows?
Cheers.

----- Original Message -----
From: David Mehler <dave.mehler@...>
Reply-To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 4/13/2020 7:54:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and zoom
________________________________________________________________________________

Hi,

With regards Zoom isn't there a tutorial or podcast on the subject? I
can't remember who did it.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 4/12/20, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
> Zoom is quite accessible with NVDA. I have been using it off and on since
> last April.
> ******
> If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a
> situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: ken lawrence via groups.io
>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 3:42 PM
>   Subject: [nvda] NVDA and zoom
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>   Hi list ken here with a question.  Was just now taking a look at the zoom
> site to see how it worked online.  I have attended a couple NFB virtual
> events but by phone.  Is there any instruction on how to use zoom if I want
> to go online rather than the phone and is there any add on with NVDA that
> might be useful on it?  With all the coronavirus stuff wiping out events we
> are going to be using zoom quite a bit I think.  We have an account now for
> our state affiliate of NFB with all the conference call lines tied up. Also
> our national convention will be virtual this year.
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>   Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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