Tips for a new nvda user


Judith Pelaez <judithp1997@...>
 

Hi guys,
 
Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted to get some other points of you as well.
 
What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA comfortably on a daily basis?
 
I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing evening/day/night.


Gerardo Corripio
 

Of overall importance, the voice that it uses. I’ve a friend here in Tampico, who wasn’t convinced of what NVDA had to offer, until he came across the Valeria Akapela voice; now he says if he could have that voice for life, he’d switch fulltime to NVDA.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 14 abr 2020, a la(s) 9:55 a.m., Judith Pelaez via groups.io <judithp1997@...> escribió:


Hi guys,
 
Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted to get some other points of you as well.
 
What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA comfortably on a daily basis?
 
I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing evening/day/night.


Cecelia Rodriguez <cessbraille@...>
 

A good understanding of computers and good computer skills.


On Apr 14, 2020, at 11:02 AM, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote:

Of overall importance, the voice that it uses. I’ve a friend here in Tampico, who wasn’t convinced of what NVDA had to offer, until he came across the Valeria Akapela voice; now he says if he could have that voice for life, he’d switch fulltime to NVDA.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 14 abr 2020, a la(s) 9:55 a.m., Judith Pelaez via groups.io <judithp1997@...> escribió:


Hi guys,
 
Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted to get some other points of you as well.
 
What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA comfortably on a daily basis?
 
I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing evening/day/night.


Gene
 

Since I don’t know how you use your other screen-reader, I can’t tell you what you need to know.  Do you use the JAWS cursor or the JAWS Touch Cursor?  If not, you may only need to know a small number of NVDA commands such as read to end, how to change the synthesizer being used and adjust things like rate and punctuation as far as learning new commands is concerned.  The navigation commands when browsing are either identical or just about identical to JAWS commands.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 11:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] Tips for a new nvda user
 
Hi guys,
 
Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted to get some other points of you as well.
 
What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA comfortably on a daily basis?
 
I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing evening/day/night.


Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Judith,

Assuming you are coming from another screenreader, then often the biggest thing for people is the voice, although depending on how you use your other screen reader, you might find that you need to modify some of NVDA's default settings to be more like what you are used to.  If you are coming from Jaws, there is a handy guide for things you might find useful here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

If you are coming from Window Eyes there is also a guide: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Switching-from-Window-Eyes-to-NVDA

And just on the voices on their own, we have a page of extra voices here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/ExtraVoices

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:55 AM Judith Pelaez via groups.io <judithp1997=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi guys,
 
Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted to get some other points of you as well.
 
What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA comfortably on a daily basis?
 
I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing evening/day/night.



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Judith Pelaez <judithp1997@...>
 

Hi Geise,

Yes, I have used jaws before and that is exactly what I’m used to so thank you for your help.


On Apr 14, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:


Hi Judith,

Assuming you are coming from another screenreader, then often the biggest thing for people is the voice, although depending on how you use your other screen reader, you might find that you need to modify some of NVDA's default settings to be more like what you are used to.  If you are coming from Jaws, there is a handy guide for things you might find useful here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

If you are coming from Window Eyes there is also a guide: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Switching-from-Window-Eyes-to-NVDA

And just on the voices on their own, we have a page of extra voices here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/ExtraVoices

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:55 AM Judith Pelaez via groups.io <judithp1997=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi guys,
 
Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted to get some other points of you as well.
 
What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA comfortably on a daily basis?
 
I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing evening/day/night.



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


 

hi.
many people whome i know, dont use nvda because of several reasons: i
disagree with most of them!
1. they dont know nvda and simply say: because its free, it means that
its not good, or its imperfect, even one of them told that nvda is
like a toy! not screen reader of daily use!
i became very sad for there claim, i really love nvda, and promised to
use it till the end of my life, even when one day i become sighted!
i dont believe that nvda is only for blind users, its one of the
divine blessings for me that i never want to miss it!
2. nvda cursor are not simple as jaws cursor.
i agree with this part, and i wish that nvda cursor worked exactly as
jaws cursor without need to use numpad!
3. they simply dont love espeak and they wish to use eloquence, but i
disagree about this part too!
iven voice i believe that its the most lovely, sweet, friendly, and
enjoyable voice and that i even dont think about other voices and
synthesizers.
i can read hundreds of pages of book with this excellent voice using SayAll!
its voice is very understandable, (but i only love english US voice
and its one of the main reasons that i cant use beyond 2017.2 and
2017.3 versions of nvda.
2017.4 and later, has not the capability of using persian plus english US!
4. many people like me, hate ribbons and they are glad for using jaws,
because jaws has virtual ribbon menues, that enables them to use
ribbons as they use classic menues!
5. jaws is very customizable, and has numerous settings for change.
but honestly, i really love the simplicity of nvda settings!
hope that help you and nvda developers.
God bless you!

On 4/14/20, Judith Pelaez via groups.io
<judithp1997=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi guys,

Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted to
get some other points of you as well.

What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA
comfortably on a daily basis?

I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing
evening/day/night.




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Judith Pelaez <judithp1997@...>
 

Thanks! That was actually very helpful!

On Apr 15, 2020, at 12:37 AM, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:

hi.
many people whome i know, dont use nvda because of several reasons: i
disagree with most of them!
1. they dont know nvda and simply say: because its free, it means that
its not good, or its imperfect, even one of them told that nvda is
like a toy! not screen reader of daily use!
i became very sad for there claim, i really love nvda, and promised to
use it till the end of my life, even when one day i become sighted!
i dont believe that nvda is only for blind users, its one of the
divine blessings for me that i never want to miss it!
2. nvda cursor are not simple as jaws cursor.
i agree with this part, and i wish that nvda cursor worked exactly as
jaws cursor without need to use numpad!
3. they simply dont love espeak and they wish to use eloquence, but i
disagree about this part too!
iven voice i believe that its the most lovely, sweet, friendly, and
enjoyable voice and that i even dont think about other voices and
synthesizers.
i can read hundreds of pages of book with this excellent voice using SayAll!
its voice is very understandable, (but i only love english US voice
and its one of the main reasons that i cant use beyond 2017.2 and
2017.3 versions of nvda.
2017.4 and later, has not the capability of using persian plus english US!
4. many people like me, hate ribbons and they are glad for using jaws,
because jaws has virtual ribbon menues, that enables them to use
ribbons as they use classic menues!
5. jaws is very customizable, and has numerous settings for change.
but honestly, i really love the simplicity of nvda settings!
hope that help you and nvda developers.
God bless you!

On 4/14/20, Judith Pelaez via groups.io
<judithp1997=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi guys,

Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted to
get some other points of you as well.

What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA
comfortably on a daily basis?

I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing
evening/day/night.




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



Arlene
 

Has anybody like you asked the developers of NVDA  to fix your persion speech for you so you can upgrade to windows ten if you have to? I’m sure there are other people who use persion as well. I thought they  would have updated it. Then you would not have to stay on 17.3

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: April 14, 2020 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tips for a new nvda user

 

hi.

many people whome i know, dont use nvda because of several reasons: i

disagree with most of them!

1. they dont know nvda and simply say: because its free, it means that

its not good, or its imperfect, even one of them told that nvda is

like a toy! not screen reader of daily use!

i became very sad for there claim, i really love nvda, and promised to

use it till the end of my life, even when one day i become sighted!

i dont believe that nvda is only for blind users, its one of the

divine blessings for me that i never want to miss it!

2. nvda cursor are not simple as jaws cursor.

i agree with this part, and i wish that nvda cursor worked exactly as

jaws cursor without need to use numpad!

3. they simply dont love espeak and they wish to use eloquence, but i

disagree about this part too!

iven voice i believe that its the most lovely, sweet, friendly, and

enjoyable voice and that i even dont think about other voices and

synthesizers.

i can read hundreds of pages of book with this excellent voice using SayAll!

its voice is very understandable, (but i only love english US voice

and its one of the main reasons that i cant use beyond 2017.2 and

2017.3 versions of nvda.

2017.4 and later, has not the capability of using persian plus english US!

4. many people like me, hate ribbons and they are glad for using jaws,

because jaws has virtual ribbon menues, that enables them to use

ribbons as they use classic menues!

5. jaws is very customizable, and has numerous settings for change.

but honestly, i really love the simplicity of nvda settings!

hope that help you and nvda developers.

God bless you!

 

On 4/14/20, Judith Pelaez via groups.io

<judithp1997@...> wrote:

> Hi guys,

> Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted to

> get some other points of you as well.

> What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA

> comfortably on a daily basis?

> I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing

> evening/day/night.

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 


 

even 17.2 is very great, windows xp and seven are really great and i
am completely sure that i never use windows ten!
sometimes i use 2017.3 sometimes 2017.2.
2017.3 is very great for the people who can use builtin ocr of windows
ten, but i used it more than one month and did not find any especial
feature or bug fixed for myself.
maybe i am novice and dont need many programs that people use in general.

On 4/16/20, Arlene <nedster66@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anybody like you asked the developers of NVDA  to fix your persion
speech for you so you can upgrade to windows ten if you have to? I’m sure
there are other people who use persion as well. I thought they  would have
updated it. Then you would not have to stay on 17.3



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: zahra
Sent: April 14, 2020 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tips for a new nvda user



hi.

many people whome i know, dont use nvda because of several reasons: i

disagree with most of them!

1. they dont know nvda and simply say: because its free, it means that

its not good, or its imperfect, even one of them told that nvda is

like a toy! not screen reader of daily use!

i became very sad for there claim, i really love nvda, and promised to

use it till the end of my life, even when one day i become sighted!

i dont believe that nvda is only for blind users, its one of the

divine blessings for me that i never want to miss it!

2. nvda cursor are not simple as jaws cursor.

i agree with this part, and i wish that nvda cursor worked exactly as

jaws cursor without need to use numpad!

3. they simply dont love espeak and they wish to use eloquence, but i

disagree about this part too!

iven voice i believe that its the most lovely, sweet, friendly, and

enjoyable voice and that i even dont think about other voices and

synthesizers.

i can read hundreds of pages of book with this excellent voice using SayAll!

its voice is very understandable, (but i only love english US voice

and its one of the main reasons that i cant use beyond 2017.2 and

2017.3 versions of nvda.

2017.4 and later, has not the capability of using persian plus english US!

4. many people like me, hate ribbons and they are glad for using jaws,

because jaws has virtual ribbon menues, that enables them to use

ribbons as they use classic menues!

5. jaws is very customizable, and has numerous settings for change.

but honestly, i really love the simplicity of nvda settings!

hope that help you and nvda developers.

God bless you!



On 4/14/20, Judith Pelaez via groups.io

<judithp1997=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi guys,
Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted
to
get some other points of you as well.
What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA
comfortably on a daily basis?
I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing
evening/day/night.




--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


 

using persian plus english US, was one of the features that was
included in espeak ng 1.49.1, but i really dont understand why espeak
developers removed it!
and i know many people like me, cant tolerate uk english accent of
espeak ng, and i dont understand how do they update there nvda
version!
i really cant be without iven3 with american accent.
with it, i can easily read hundreds of pages of english books using SayAll.
but with uk, i get headache and i cant even read one paragraph using
SayAll with uk english!

On 4/16/20, Arlene <nedster66@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anybody like you asked the developers of NVDA to fix your persion
speech for you so you can upgrade to windows ten if you have to? I’m sure
there are other people who use persion as well. I thought they would have
updated it. Then you would not have to stay on 17.3



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: zahra
Sent: April 14, 2020 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tips for a new nvda user



hi.

many people whome i know, dont use nvda because of several reasons: i

disagree with most of them!

1. they dont know nvda and simply say: because its free, it means that

its not good, or its imperfect, even one of them told that nvda is

like a toy! not screen reader of daily use!

i became very sad for there claim, i really love nvda, and promised to

use it till the end of my life, even when one day i become sighted!

i dont believe that nvda is only for blind users, its one of the

divine blessings for me that i never want to miss it!

2. nvda cursor are not simple as jaws cursor.

i agree with this part, and i wish that nvda cursor worked exactly as

jaws cursor without need to use numpad!

3. they simply dont love espeak and they wish to use eloquence, but i

disagree about this part too!

iven voice i believe that its the most lovely, sweet, friendly, and

enjoyable voice and that i even dont think about other voices and

synthesizers.

i can read hundreds of pages of book with this excellent voice using SayAll!

its voice is very understandable, (but i only love english US voice

and its one of the main reasons that i cant use beyond 2017.2 and

2017.3 versions of nvda.

2017.4 and later, has not the capability of using persian plus english US!

4. many people like me, hate ribbons and they are glad for using jaws,

because jaws has virtual ribbon menues, that enables them to use

ribbons as they use classic menues!

5. jaws is very customizable, and has numerous settings for change.

but honestly, i really love the simplicity of nvda settings!

hope that help you and nvda developers.

God bless you!



On 4/14/20, Judith Pelaez via groups.io

<judithp1997=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi guys,
Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted
to
get some other points of you as well.
What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA
comfortably on a daily basis?
I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing
evening/day/night.




--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Ron Kolesar
 

Hi at you Judy.
Looks like the two of us are in the same boat. SMILES.
Ron
 

From: Judith Pelaez via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 19:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tips for a new nvda user
 
Hi Geise,
 
Yes, I have used jaws before and that is exactly what I’m used to so thank you for your help.
 

On Apr 14, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:


Hi Judith,
 
Assuming you are coming from another screenreader, then often the biggest thing for people is the voice, although depending on how you use your other screen reader, you might find that you need to modify some of NVDA's default settings to be more like what you are used to.  If you are coming from Jaws, there is a handy guide for things you might find useful here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA
 
If you are coming from Window Eyes there is also a guide: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Switching-from-Window-Eyes-to-NVDA
 
And just on the voices on their own, we have a page of extra voices here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/ExtraVoices
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:55 AM Judith Pelaez via groups.io <judithp1997@...> wrote:
Hi guys,
 
Yes, I do have friends who use NVDA on a daily basis but still, I wanted to get some other points of you as well.
 
What do you think is essential for a user to have to be able to use NVDA comfortably on a daily basis?
 
I appreciate everyone’s help and I hope you stay safe and have an amazing evening/day/night.
 
 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

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