narrator question


anthony borg
 

Hello david

Could you please explain to me what I should use in narrator to read all?

Because I used windows key plus m, and didn’t work.

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 01 December 2017 01:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: narrator question

 

Thank you so very much. I am very interested.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fred Mellender
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I got some good advice from a blind user of ChessSpeak.

 

So, I am trying to make the program almost entirely mouse free, with input via keyboard shortcuts and speech, and output via speech.

 

Please pass on any other advice.

 

I should have a beta test version in a week or so, but not all the desirable interface features will be in that version.  This program is for Windows 7 and later, only. The speech input and output only works in English. This program will always be free.

 

Look at the Users' Guide, Youtube video, and my webpage for details about this program.  All of the links were included in a previous post to this group.

This program allows a person to play a game of chess against the computer.  You can download the current version from my website.

 

Regards,

 

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:34 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hi can you please give me some more info about that chess program as I am very interesting to get it please?

Regards

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of fredm73@...
Sent: 29 November 2017 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak.  I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I  did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA.  One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people?  What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines?  I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.



 

--

Fred Mellender
Rochester, NY

 


John Isige
 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22798/windows-10-narrator-get-started

If you're not on 10, who knows? I don't know if Microsoft keeps any of its old documentation around. Luckily, you've got NVDA, which is way better and has way better documentation.


Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


Try this keystroke instead,

Caps lock + M. Pressing Windows-m takes you to the desktop. Hope this helps.


Tony


On 12/1/2017 8:58 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello david

Could you please explain to me what I should use in narrator to read all?

Because I used windows key plus m, and didn’t work.

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 01 December 2017 01:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: narrator question

 

Thank you so very much. I am very interested.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fred Mellender
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I got some good advice from a blind user of ChessSpeak.

 

So, I am trying to make the program almost entirely mouse free, with input via keyboard shortcuts and speech, and output via speech.

 

Please pass on any other advice.

 

I should have a beta test version in a week or so, but not all the desirable interface features will be in that version.  This program is for Windows 7 and later, only. The speech input and output only works in English. This program will always be free.

 

Look at the Users' Guide, Youtube video, and my webpage for details about this program.  All of the links were included in a previous post to this group.

This program allows a person to play a game of chess against the computer.  You can download the current version from my website.

 

Regards,

 

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:34 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hi can you please give me some more info about that chess program as I am very interesting to get it please?

Regards

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of fredm73@...
Sent: 29 November 2017 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak.  I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I  did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA.  One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people?  What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines?  I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.



 

--

Fred Mellender
Rochester, NY

 



Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I did wonder if this failed if nvda was also running and one screenreader intercepted the key sequence before Narrator?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "anthony borg" <anthonyborg001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question


Hello david

Could you please explain to me what I should use in narrator to read all?

Because I used windows key plus m, and didn’t work.

Thanks in advance

Anthony



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 01 December 2017 01:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: narrator question



Thank you so very much. I am very interested.

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10



From: Fred Mellender <mailto:fredm73@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer



I got some good advice from a blind user of ChessSpeak.



So, I am trying to make the program almost entirely mouse free, with input via keyboard shortcuts and speech, and output via speech.



Please pass on any other advice.



I should have a beta test version in a week or so, but not all the desirable interface features will be in that version. This program is for Windows 7 and later, only. The speech input and output only works in English. This program will always be free.



Look at the Users' Guide, Youtube video, and my webpage for details about this program. All of the links were included in a previous post to this group.

This program allows a person to play a game of chess against the computer. You can download the current version from my website.



Regards,



On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:34 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@gmail.com <mailto:anthonyborg001@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi can you please give me some more info about that chess program as I am very interesting to get it please?

Regards

Anthony



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of fredm73@gmail.com <mailto:fredm73@gmail.com>
Sent: 29 November 2017 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer



I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak. I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA. One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people? What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines? I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.







--

Fred Mellender
Rochester, NY

https://sites.google.com/site/fredm/


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

He said capslock plus m before and apparently it did not work.
Most odd.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Ballou" <cyberpro224@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question


Hi,


Try this keystroke instead,
Caps lock + M. Pressing Windows-m takes you to the desktop. Hope this helps.

Tony

On 12/1/2017 8:58 PM, anthony borg wrote:
Hello david
Could you please explain to me what I should use in narrator to read all?
Because I used windows key plus m, and didn’t work.
Thanks in advance
Anthony

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 01 December 2017 01:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: narrator question

Thank you so very much. I am very interested.
David Moore
Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

From: Fred Mellender<mailto:fredm73@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

I got some good advice from a blind user of ChessSpeak.

So, I am trying to make the program almost entirely mouse free, with input via keyboard shortcuts and speech, and output via speech.

Please pass on any other advice.

I should have a beta test version in a week or so, but not all the desirable interface features will be in that version. This program is for Windows 7 and later, only. The speech input and output only works in English. This program will always be free.

Look at the Users' Guide, Youtube video, and my webpage for details about this program. All of the links were included in a previous post to this group.
This program allows a person to play a game of chess against the computer. You can download the current version from my website.

Regards,

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:34 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@gmail.com<mailto:anthonyborg001@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi can you please give me some more info about that chess program as I am very interesting to get it please?
Regards
Anthony

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>] On Behalf Of fredm73@gmail.com<mailto:fredm73@gmail.com>
Sent: 29 November 2017 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak. I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA. One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people? What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines? I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.



--
Fred Mellender
Rochester, NY
https://sites.google.com/site/fredm/




anthony borg
 

Hi tony

Apologies I wanted to say when I use key stroke, caps lock plus m, it doesn’t readanything.

Maybe I to use the letter m, with another key storke instead the caps lock?

Thanks in advance

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: 02 December 2017 07:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi,

 

Try this keystroke instead,

Caps lock + M. Pressing Windows-m takes you to the desktop. Hope this helps.

 

Tony

 

On 12/1/2017 8:58 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello david

Could you please explain to me what I should use in narrator to read all?

Because I used windows key plus m, and didn’t work.

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 01 December 2017 01:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: narrator question

 

Thank you so very much. I am very interested.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fred Mellender
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I got some good advice from a blind user of ChessSpeak.

 

So, I am trying to make the program almost entirely mouse free, with input via keyboard shortcuts and speech, and output via speech.

 

Please pass on any other advice.

 

I should have a beta test version in a week or so, but not all the desirable interface features will be in that version.  This program is for Windows 7 and later, only. The speech input and output only works in English. This program will always be free.

 

Look at the Users' Guide, Youtube video, and my webpage for details about this program.  All of the links were included in a previous post to this group.

This program allows a person to play a game of chess against the computer.  You can download the current version from my website.

 

Regards,

 

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:34 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hi can you please give me some more info about that chess program as I am very interesting to get it please?

Regards

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of fredm73@...
Sent: 29 November 2017 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak.  I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I  did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA.  One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people?  What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines?  I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.



 

--

Fred Mellender
Rochester, NY

 

 


anthony borg
 

Thanks for your info.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: 02 December 2017 03:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22798/windows-10-narrator-get-started

If you're not on 10, who knows? I don't know if Microsoft keeps any of its old documentation around. Luckily, you've got NVDA, which is way better and has way better documentation.


David Griffith
 

This is  a little odd as I have just loaded Narrator – pressed Caps lock M and it read all your email out to me with no problem.

Ditto for this email reply which I  am writing using Narrator..

It sounds like there is something intercepting your use of the caps lock key as a proper modifier.

You don’t by any chance have NVDA or another program loaded which is grabbing hold of the caps lock key do you?

NVDA should be unloaded before attempting to use Narrator.

Alternatively some people on laptops remap the insert key to cpas lock which may also create problems.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: 02 December 2017 10:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi tony

Apologies I wanted to say when I use key stroke, caps lock plus m, it doesn’t readanything.

Maybe I to use the letter m, with another key storke instead the caps lock?

Thanks in advance

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: 02 December 2017 07:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi,

 

Try this keystroke instead,

Caps lock + M. Pressing Windows-m takes you to the desktop. Hope this helps.

 

Tony

 

On 12/1/2017 8:58 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello david

Could you please explain to me what I should use in narrator to read all?

Because I used windows key plus m, and didn’t work.

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 01 December 2017 01:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: narrator question

 

Thank you so very much. I am very interested.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fred Mellender
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I got some good advice from a blind user of ChessSpeak.

 

So, I am trying to make the program almost entirely mouse free, with input via keyboard shortcuts and speech, and output via speech.

 

Please pass on any other advice.

 

I should have a beta test version in a week or so, but not all the desirable interface features will be in that version.  This program is for Windows 7 and later, only. The speech input and output only works in English. This program will always be free.

 

Look at the Users' Guide, Youtube video, and my webpage for details about this program.  All of the links were included in a previous post to this group.

This program allows a person to play a game of chess against the computer.  You can download the current version from my website.

 

Regards,

 

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:34 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hi can you please give me some more info about that chess program as I am very interesting to get it please?

Regards

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of fredm73@...
Sent: 29 November 2017 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak.  I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I  did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA.  One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people?  What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines?  I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.



 

--

Fred Mellender
Rochester, NY

 

 

 


Pascal Lambert
 

Hi David,

Please forgive my ignorance.  Do you mean launch Narrator or download and install it?

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

This is  a little odd as I have just loaded Narrator – pressed Caps lock M and it read all your email out to me with no problem.

Ditto for this email reply which I  am writing using Narrator..

It sounds like there is something intercepting your use of the caps lock key as a proper modifier.

You don’t by any chance have NVDA or another program loaded which is grabbing hold of the caps lock key do you?

NVDA should be unloaded before attempting to use Narrator.

Alternatively some people on laptops remap the insert key to cpas lock which may also create problems.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: 02 December 2017 10:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi tony

Apologies I wanted to say when I use key stroke, caps lock plus m, it doesn’t readanything.

Maybe I to use the letter m, with another key storke instead the caps lock?

Thanks in advance

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: 02 December 2017 07:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi,

 

Try this keystroke instead,

Caps lock + M. Pressing Windows-m takes you to the desktop. Hope this helps.

 

Tony

 

On 12/1/2017 8:58 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello david

Could you please explain to me what I should use in narrator to read all?

Because I used windows key plus m, and didn’t work.

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 01 December 2017 01:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: narrator question

 

Thank you so very much. I am very interested.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fred Mellender
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I got some good advice from a blind user of ChessSpeak.

 

So, I am trying to make the program almost entirely mouse free, with input via keyboard shortcuts and speech, and output via speech.

 

Please pass on any other advice.

 

I should have a beta test version in a week or so, but not all the desirable interface features will be in that version.  This program is for Windows 7 and later, only. The speech input and output only works in English. This program will always be free.

 

Look at the Users' Guide, Youtube video, and my webpage for details about this program.  All of the links were included in a previous post to this group.

This program allows a person to play a game of chess against the computer.  You can download the current version from my website.

 

Regards,

 

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:34 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hi can you please give me some more info about that chess program as I am very interesting to get it please?

Regards

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of fredm73@...
Sent: 29 November 2017 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak.  I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I  did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA.  One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people?  What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines?  I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.



 

--

Fred Mellender
Rochester, NY

 

 

 


anthony borg
 

Hi david

I think you are right, one of those things you have mentioned is causing the problem most probably.

I will check that, and see what will happen.

Thanks very much for your help.

Regards

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 02 December 2017 11:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

This is  a little odd as I have just loaded Narrator – pressed Caps lock M and it read all your email out to me with no problem.

Ditto for this email reply which I  am writing using Narrator..

It sounds like there is something intercepting your use of the caps lock key as a proper modifier.

You don’t by any chance have NVDA or another program loaded which is grabbing hold of the caps lock key do you?

NVDA should be unloaded before attempting to use Narrator.

Alternatively some people on laptops remap the insert key to cpas lock which may also create problems.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: 02 December 2017 10:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi tony

Apologies I wanted to say when I use key stroke, caps lock plus m, it doesn’t readanything.

Maybe I to use the letter m, with another key storke instead the caps lock?

Thanks in advance

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: 02 December 2017 07:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi,

 

Try this keystroke instead,

Caps lock + M. Pressing Windows-m takes you to the desktop. Hope this helps.

 

Tony

 

On 12/1/2017 8:58 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello david

Could you please explain to me what I should use in narrator to read all?

Because I used windows key plus m, and didn’t work.

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 01 December 2017 01:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: narrator question

 

Thank you so very much. I am very interested.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fred Mellender
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I got some good advice from a blind user of ChessSpeak.

 

So, I am trying to make the program almost entirely mouse free, with input via keyboard shortcuts and speech, and output via speech.

 

Please pass on any other advice.

 

I should have a beta test version in a week or so, but not all the desirable interface features will be in that version.  This program is for Windows 7 and later, only. The speech input and output only works in English. This program will always be free.

 

Look at the Users' Guide, Youtube video, and my webpage for details about this program.  All of the links were included in a previous post to this group.

This program allows a person to play a game of chess against the computer.  You can download the current version from my website.

 

Regards,

 

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:34 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hi can you please give me some more info about that chess program as I am very interesting to get it please?

Regards

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of fredm73@...
Sent: 29 November 2017 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak.  I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I  did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA.  One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people?  What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines?  I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.



 

--

Fred Mellender
Rochester, NY

 

 

 


David Griffith
 

Narrator is already in Windows 10.

In terms of terminology  I think launch  run and load are pretty mukch synonyums  in this context to describe starting a program.

In ancient dayhs of using Basic on BBC Micro and CPM we used to talk about loading programs into memory to run them.

I  guess I am  therefore showing my age in using the term load in relation to starting a program.

David Griffith

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: 02 December 2017 13:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi David,

Please forgive my ignorance.  Do you mean launch Narrator or download and install it?

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

This is  a little odd as I have just loaded Narrator – pressed Caps lock M and it read all your email out to me with no problem.

Ditto for this email reply which I  am writing using Narrator..

It sounds like there is something intercepting your use of the caps lock key as a proper modifier.

You don’t by any chance have NVDA or another program loaded which is grabbing hold of the caps lock key do you?

NVDA should be unloaded before attempting to use Narrator.

Alternatively some people on laptops remap the insert key to cpas lock which may also create problems.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: 02 December 2017 10:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi tony

Apologies I wanted to say when I use key stroke, caps lock plus m, it doesn’t readanything.

Maybe I to use the letter m, with another key storke instead the caps lock?

Thanks in advance

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: 02 December 2017 07:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi,

 

Try this keystroke instead,

Caps lock + M. Pressing Windows-m takes you to the desktop. Hope this helps.

 

Tony

 

On 12/1/2017 8:58 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello david

Could you please explain to me what I should use in narrator to read all?

Because I used windows key plus m, and didn’t work.

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 01 December 2017 01:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: narrator question

 

Thank you so very much. I am very interested.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fred Mellender
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I got some good advice from a blind user of ChessSpeak.

 

So, I am trying to make the program almost entirely mouse free, with input via keyboard shortcuts and speech, and output via speech.

 

Please pass on any other advice.

 

I should have a beta test version in a week or so, but not all the desirable interface features will be in that version.  This program is for Windows 7 and later, only. The speech input and output only works in English. This program will always be free.

 

Look at the Users' Guide, Youtube video, and my webpage for details about this program.  All of the links were included in a previous post to this group.

This program allows a person to play a game of chess against the computer.  You can download the current version from my website.

 

Regards,

 

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:34 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hi can you please give me some more info about that chess program as I am very interesting to get it please?

Regards

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of fredm73@...
Sent: 29 November 2017 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak.  I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I  did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA.  One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people?  What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines?  I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.



 

--

Fred Mellender
Rochester, NY

 

 

 

 


Pascal Lambert
 

Thanks David for taking the time to answer.

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 7:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Narrator is already in Windows 10.

In terms of terminology  I think launch  run and load are pretty mukch synonyums  in this context to describe starting a program.

In ancient dayhs of using Basic on BBC Micro and CPM we used to talk about loading programs into memory to run them.

I  guess I am  therefore showing my age in using the term load in relation to starting a program.

David Griffith

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: 02 December 2017 13:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi David,

Please forgive my ignorance.  Do you mean launch Narrator or download and install it?

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

This is  a little odd as I have just loaded Narrator – pressed Caps lock M and it read all your email out to me with no problem.

Ditto for this email reply which I  am writing using Narrator..

It sounds like there is something intercepting your use of the caps lock key as a proper modifier.

You don’t by any chance have NVDA or another program loaded which is grabbing hold of the caps lock key do you?

NVDA should be unloaded before attempting to use Narrator.

Alternatively some people on laptops remap the insert key to cpas lock which may also create problems.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: 02 December 2017 10:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi tony

Apologies I wanted to say when I use key stroke, caps lock plus m, it doesn’t readanything.

Maybe I to use the letter m, with another key storke instead the caps lock?

Thanks in advance

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: 02 December 2017 07:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi,

 

Try this keystroke instead,

Caps lock + M. Pressing Windows-m takes you to the desktop. Hope this helps.

 

Tony

 

On 12/1/2017 8:58 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello david

Could you please explain to me what I should use in narrator to read all?

Because I used windows key plus m, and didn’t work.

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 01 December 2017 01:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: narrator question

 

Thank you so very much. I am very interested.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fred Mellender
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I got some good advice from a blind user of ChessSpeak.

 

So, I am trying to make the program almost entirely mouse free, with input via keyboard shortcuts and speech, and output via speech.

 

Please pass on any other advice.

 

I should have a beta test version in a week or so, but not all the desirable interface features will be in that version.  This program is for Windows 7 and later, only. The speech input and output only works in English. This program will always be free.

 

Look at the Users' Guide, Youtube video, and my webpage for details about this program.  All of the links were included in a previous post to this group.

This program allows a person to play a game of chess against the computer.  You can download the current version from my website.

 

Regards,

 

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:34 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hi can you please give me some more info about that chess program as I am very interesting to get it please?

Regards

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of fredm73@...
Sent: 29 November 2017 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak.  I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I  did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA.  One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people?  What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines?  I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.



 

--

Fred Mellender
Rochester, NY

 

 

 

 


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes indeed, I was just wondering what it might be called now. I suppose its a bit like having lots of bits of code, much like CP/M had, and the software you then load uses these bits to interface with the actual hardware. In those days the hardware was all over the place so CP/M was different on every machine, but the programs were the same in the main, so in this instance Windows is the interface between the program and the hardware. However as with CP/M where you got a lot of utilities already supplied so it is with Windows, and Narrator is one of these utilities, as is the dos shell or command line since Windows NT was built. Before that Windows was a shell over dos.

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question


Narrator is already in Windows 10.
In terms of terminology I think launch run and load are pretty mukch synonyums in this context to describe starting a program.
In ancient dayhs of using Basic on BBC Micro and CPM we used to talk about loading programs into memory to run them.
I guess I am therefore showing my age in using the term load in relation to starting a program.
David Griffith


My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: 02 December 2017 13:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

Hi David,
Please forgive my ignorance. Do you mean launch Narrator or download and install it?
Thanks
Blessings
Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

This is a little odd as I have just loaded Narrator – pressed Caps lock M and it read all your email out to me with no problem.
Ditto for this email reply which I am writing using Narrator..
It sounds like there is something intercepting your use of the caps lock key as a proper modifier.
You don’t by any chance have NVDA or another program loaded which is grabbing hold of the caps lock key do you?
NVDA should be unloaded before attempting to use Narrator.
Alternatively some people on laptops remap the insert key to cpas lock which may also create problems.
David Griffith
My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

From: anthony borg
Sent: 02 December 2017 10:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

Hi tony
Apologies I wanted to say when I use key stroke, caps lock plus m, it doesn’t readanything.
Maybe I to use the letter m, with another key storke instead the caps lock?
Thanks in advance
Anthony

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: 02 December 2017 07:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

Hi,

Try this keystroke instead,
Caps lock + M. Pressing Windows-m takes you to the desktop. Hope this helps.

Tony

On 12/1/2017 8:58 PM, anthony borg wrote:
Hello david
Could you please explain to me what I should use in narrator to read all?
Because I used windows key plus m, and didn’t work.
Thanks in advance
Anthony

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 01 December 2017 01:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: narrator question

Thank you so very much. I am very interested.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Fred Mellender
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

I got some good advice from a blind user of ChessSpeak.

So, I am trying to make the program almost entirely mouse free, with input via keyboard shortcuts and speech, and output via speech.

Please pass on any other advice.

I should have a beta test version in a week or so, but not all the desirable interface features will be in that version. This program is for Windows 7 and later, only. The speech input and output only works in English. This program will always be free.

Look at the Users' Guide, Youtube video, and my webpage for details about this program. All of the links were included in a previous post to this group.
This program allows a person to play a game of chess against the computer. You can download the current version from my website.

Regards,

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:34 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi can you please give me some more info about that chess program as I am very interesting to get it please?
Regards
Anthony

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of fredm73@gmail.com
Sent: 29 November 2017 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak. I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA. One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people? What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines? I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.




--
Fred Mellender
Rochester, NY
https://sites.google.com/site/fredm/


Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Your question might of been answered already.


it may depend on the version of windows he is using.


I am on the creators update 1709 windows 10


For me to read from the current position to the end is the caps lock key plus the letter R for read.


The best way not that i use narrator is in the version i am on use the caps lock key + number one on the main qwerty keyboard. This will turn like input help on.


Then try pressing different keys using the caps lock key as the modifier key and another letter to see what it does. Try different combinations.


After having a play use the caps lock key again with the number 1 key and it will turn it off like what nvda does.

I am guessing it would be the same in earlier version?


There is a user guide for shortcuts also only learn the keys you want like you mentioned read from where you are, maybe the title bar of the page etc


By the way the windows key + letter M is a windows short cut and will minimize all windows to the task bar.

The windows key + letter D will jump you to the desk top.


hope it helps


By the way to start narrator on my version is the ctrl key + windows key + the enter key


Earlier versions i think was the windows key + enter key or some people would type narrator in the search box etc.


hope it helps.

Gene nz

On 12/2/2017 11:45 PM, David Griffith wrote:

This is  a little odd as I have just loaded Narrator – pressed Caps lock M and it read all your email out to me with no problem.

Ditto for this email reply which I  am writing using Narrator..

It sounds like there is something intercepting your use of the caps lock key as a proper modifier.

You don’t by any chance have NVDA or another program loaded which is grabbing hold of the caps lock key do you?

NVDA should be unloaded before attempting to use Narrator.

Alternatively some people on laptops remap the insert key to cpas lock which may also create problems.

David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: 02 December 2017 10:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi tony

Apologies I wanted to say when I use key stroke, caps lock plus m, it doesn’t readanything.

Maybe I to use the letter m, with another key storke instead the caps lock?

Thanks in advance

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: 02 December 2017 07:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] narrator question

 

Hi,

 

Try this keystroke instead,

Caps lock + M. Pressing Windows-m takes you to the desktop. Hope this helps.

 

Tony

 

On 12/1/2017 8:58 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello david

Could you please explain to me what I should use in narrator to read all?

Because I used windows key plus m, and didn’t work.

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 01 December 2017 01:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: narrator question

 

Thank you so very much. I am very interested.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fred Mellender
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I got some good advice from a blind user of ChessSpeak.

 

So, I am trying to make the program almost entirely mouse free, with input via keyboard shortcuts and speech, and output via speech.

 

Please pass on any other advice.

 

I should have a beta test version in a week or so, but not all the desirable interface features will be in that version.  This program is for Windows 7 and later, only. The speech input and output only works in English. This program will always be free.

 

Look at the Users' Guide, Youtube video, and my webpage for details about this program.  All of the links were included in a previous post to this group.

This program allows a person to play a game of chess against the computer.  You can download the current version from my website.

 

Regards,

 

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:34 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hi can you please give me some more info about that chess program as I am very interesting to get it please?

Regards

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of fredm73@...
Sent: 29 November 2017 16:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Please help a Chess program developer

 

I am the author of a free chess playing program, ChessSpeak.  I have a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NXo8GzIORQ) and a Users' Guide (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IIazPm57vNei4w51fnxBpUzSRnuL58ncBn3xXhSCEik). This program allows for speech input from the player and replies with voice output. It has been used by many players over the past few years.

I wrote the program so that a sighted person could play with a regular chessboard, across the room from the computer, without using the mouse or keyboard (although it is not entirely hands free). I  did not intend this application for blind people, but have discovered there is interest in the blind community. ChessSpeak was developed without my awareness of NVDA.  One user told me he is using NVDA and that led me to this group.

How can I make ChessSpeak more friendly to blind people?  What are some very general, and then some specific guidelines?  I have read the Developers' Guide (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) and understand it in a general way, although my Python skills are not strong.

If anyone could offer me specific suggestions or help for my application I would appreciated it. If anyone wants to develop the NVDA linkage to ChessSpeak that would be wonderful.



 

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Fred Mellender
Rochester, NY

 

 

 


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