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Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Hi, I have used Jaws for years.  I’m giving NVDA another look.  When I’m writing an email it says dot instead of period.  How do I change this?  Is there any way to turn off column 4 row 3 etc. when on a webpage? Is there anyway when using outlook as your typing who the message is to to have the auto complete suggest automatically spoken?


 

You can change what NVDA says for any punctuation or symbol in the Punctuation and Symbols settings, NVDA+N,P,P.  I presume you mean the period at the end of a sentence, in which case the very first item you will see in the list is for the period, sentence ending, with its replacement as "dot."  If you get yourself to the Replacement box, erase dot, type period (spelled out), and hit the OK button that will be changed.

I'll leave the other two to others.
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Sarah k Alawami
 

I believe some of this can be found in settings. For example hit nvda p to get your symbol level, and for the dot instead of period go to the dictionary settings. I believe some of this was discussed at length in the list archives.

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On 2 May 2020, at 9:43, Dennis L wrote:

Hi, I have used Jaws for years.  I’m giving NVDA another look.  When I’m writing an email it says dot instead of period.  How do I change this?  Is there any way to turn off column 4 row 3 etc. when on a webpage? Is there anyway when using outlook as your typing who the message is to to have the auto complete suggest automatically spoken?


Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

I changed it it still says dot.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 12:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Questions

 

You can change what NVDA says for any punctuation or symbol in the Punctuation and Symbols settings, NVDA+N,P,P.  I presume you mean the period at the end of a sentence, in which case the very first item you will see in the list is for the period, sentence ending, with its replacement as "dot."  If you get yourself to the Replacement box, erase dot, type period (spelled out), and hit the OK button that will be changed.

I'll leave the other two to others.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


 

As Sarah has mentioned, it depends on how and when you want a given thing pronounced.   NVDA, like most complex software, is highly configurable, but you (or I, when advising) have to know exactly what the circumstance is when "dot" is being pronounced where you'd prefer period instead.

I will always presume this is when you're going character by character, and hitting punctuation marks, unless specified otherwise.  It also matters where.  There is the sentence ending period and there is the period used elsewhere, and those are considered separate instances of the character.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Okay let me give an example.  I just wrote okay let me give an example when I put the period it spoke that as dot and not period.  That is what I want changed.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 1:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Questions

 

As Sarah has mentioned, it depends on how and when you want a given thing pronounced.   NVDA, like most complex software, is highly configurable, but you (or I, when advising) have to know exactly what the circumstance is when "dot" is being pronounced where you'd prefer period instead.

I will always presume this is when you're going character by character, and hitting punctuation marks, unless specified otherwise.  It also matters where.  There is the sentence ending period and there is the period used elsewhere, and those are considered separate instances of the character.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


 

Dennis,

              This is a serious question:  When did it say it as dot?

              In playing with this, until I set both the period, sentence ending to read as period instead of dot, and set the straight period character to read as period instead of dot, if I wrote a sentence with a terminal period and then began backspacing out characters it would read as dot.   Once both were set to period then it was reading as period.  This suggests to me that when backspacing out characters to delete them NVDA is matching characters as single characters (which makes sense) rather than trying to use sentence context.  I don't want punctuation pronounced as a general rule, so I have not turned on anything that makes this occur when actually writing.  So when I put the period on any of these sentences it is not announced at all, nor are the letters as I type or the words as I complete them.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

After I write the last word of the sentence and press period it speaks it as dot.  This is not what I want.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Questions

 

Dennis,

              This is a serious question:  When did it say it as dot?

              In playing with this, until I set both the period, sentence ending to read as period instead of dot, and set the straight period character to read as period instead of dot, if I wrote a sentence with a terminal period and then began backspacing out characters it would read as dot.   Once both were set to period then it was reading as period.  This suggests to me that when backspacing out characters to delete them NVDA is matching characters as single characters (which makes sense) rather than trying to use sentence context.  I don't want punctuation pronounced as a general rule, so I have not turned on anything that makes this occur when actually writing.  So when I put the period on any of these sentences it is not announced at all, nor are the letters as I type or the words as I complete them.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


 

Then, do as I did.  In the Punctuation and symbols dialog search at the top for the word, "dot".   It only comes up about five times, and two of those are for the sentence ending period and the straight single period character.  Change both of those instances to "period" for the replacement instead of dot.  And unless you want ellipses read as period period period rather than dot dot dot leave those instances alone.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Thank you Brian that worked.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 1:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Questions

 

Then, do as I did.  In the Punctuation and symbols dialog search at the top for the word, "dot".   It only comes up about five times, and two of those are for the sentence ending period and the straight single period character.  Change both of those instances to "period" for the replacement instead of dot.  And unless you want ellipses read as period period period rather than dot dot dot leave those instances alone.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


 

Hi,

For table row/column, you need to turn off “Cell coordinates" Checkbox from NVDA’s document formatting list (NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/document formatting/tables group; CAUTION: do not turn off cell coordinates while using Excel, as it will prevent NVDA from announcing which cell you are working on).

As for auto-complete in Outlook, it is already working, although it doesn’t work properly if one is using an older build of Office 365 or earlier version of Office.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] remaining NVDA questions

 

?  Is there any way to turn off column 4 row 3 etc. when on a webpage? Is there anyway when using outlook  to  have the auto complete suggestions automatically spoken?


Luke Davis
 

On Sat, 2 May 2020, Dennis L wrote:

Is there any way to turn off column 4 row 3 etc. when on a webpage?
I believe you are asking how you can turn off column and row announcements in tables.
To do that, you want to go to your Document Formatting settings, and uncheck "cell coordinates".
The short way of getting there is: NVDA+Ctrl+D, alt+O. Space to uncheck the box, then press enter.

Your period question has already been answered, and I don't know about auto suggest lists in Outlook, so can't help there.

Luke


mcLeod stinnett
 

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from mack when in the symbols list, how do you perform a search for the word dot.


 

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 02:16 PM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:
how do you perform a search for the word dot.
After you've hit NVDA+N,P,P to open the Punctuation & Symbols dialog, you will land in the list of symbols.  Immediately above that, reached by SHIFT+TAB (or ALT+F from anywhere in the dialog itself), is the Filter by edit box.  Type the word dot in that edit box, and what will be left in the symbols list below it are only things where the word dot is used in the replacement text for the symbol.  You then need to go through the symbols list to change the replacement text for the ones you want.  I changed the two items for a sentence ending period and a stand alone period (both of which had had the replacement text of dot initially).
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Joseph is it outlook 2019 and beyond that the auto complete works properly with NVDA?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] remaining NVDA questions

 

Hi,

For table row/column, you need to turn off “Cell coordinates" Checkbox from NVDA’s document formatting list (NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/document formatting/tables group; CAUTION: do not turn off cell coordinates while using Excel, as it will prevent NVDA from announcing which cell you are working on).

As for auto-complete in Outlook, it is already working, although it doesn’t work properly if one is using an older build of Office 365 or earlier version of Office.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] remaining NVDA questions

 

?  Is there any way to turn off column 4 row 3 etc. when on a webpage? Is there anyway when using outlook  to  have the auto complete suggestions automatically spoken?