Dear NVDA community, It was brought to developers’ attention that some people were having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM build. Thus the following community directive: In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later is ABSOLUTELY required. To find out which Windows release you’ve got: - Press Windows key to open Start menu.
- Type “winver” without quotes and press Enter.
- Check the build shown on About Windows dialog.
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you’re all set. If it is lower than that: - If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4.
- If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you.
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required. Thank you. Cheers, Joseph
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Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall from friends that this update some years back now was pushed automatically to existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either.
Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively simple on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way and going to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming that the old version of 7 will still allow the update. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required Dear NVDA community,
It was brought to developers' attention that some people were having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM build. Thus the following community directive:
In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later is ABSOLUTELY required.
To find out which Windows release you've got:
1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog.
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower than that:
* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you.
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
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You are assuming that people are allowing automatic
updates.
Gene
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Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA
2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to
recall from friends that this update some years back now was pushed
automatically to existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it
either. Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it
relatively simple on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole
way and going to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm
assuming that the old version of 7 will still allow the
update. Brian bglists@...Sent via
blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting
'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" < joseph.lee22590@...> To:
< nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent:
Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY
DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely
required > Dear NVDA community, > > > > It
was brought to developers' attention that some people were having >
issues > upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7
RTM > build. > Thus the following community
directive: > > > > In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later,
Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later is > ABSOLUTELY
required. > > > > To find out which Windows release
you've got: > > > > 1. Press Windows key to open Start
menu. > 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. > 3. Check
the build shown on About Windows dialog. > > > > If the
build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower than >
that: > > > > * If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is
7600), please use NVDA > 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then
update to NVDA 2017.4. > * If using versions other than 7 (build number is
less than 7600), > then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for
you. > > > > In the next few weeks, some add-on authors
will announce minimum supported > versions of NVDA and Windows. For
example, if you are using > StationPlaylist > Studio add-on,
starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher > is
absolutely required. > > > > Thank you. > >
Cheers, > > Joseph > >
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I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows and have turned off auto update.
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On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall from friends that this update some years back now was pushed automatically to existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either.
Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively simple on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way and going to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming that the old version of 7 will still allow the update. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
Dear NVDA community,
It was brought to developers' attention that some people were having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM build. Thus the following community directive:
In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later is ABSOLUTELY required.
To find out which Windows release you've got:
1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog.
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower than that:
* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you.
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Probably because they don’t know how to check for updates or wouldn’t know what to do if there was any, or windows update was broken a long time ago
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From: Ron CanazziSent: 07 December 2017 14:33 To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows and have turned off auto update. On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: > Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall > from friends that this update some years back now was pushed > automatically to existing systems and its not just nvda which relies > on it either. > > Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively > simple on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way > and going to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm > assuming that the old version of 7 will still allow the update. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" > <joseph.lee22590@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM > Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, > Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required > > >> Dear NVDA community, >> >> >> >> It was brought to developers' attention that some people were having >> issues >> upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM >> build. >> Thus the following community directive: >> >> >> >> In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or >> later is >> ABSOLUTELY required. >> >> >> >> To find out which Windows release you've got: >> >> >> >> 1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. >> 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. >> 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog. >> >> >> >> If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower >> than >> that: >> >> >> >> * If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA >> 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. >> * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), >> then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you. >> >> >> >> In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum >> supported >> versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using >> StationPlaylist >> Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or >> higher >> is absolutely required. >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Joseph >> >> > > > > > -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Many people turn off automatic updates who have
legitimate copies of Windows. They want control over what updates they
receive.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA
2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of
Windows and have turned off auto update. On 12/7/2017 4:58
AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: > Could I ask how
people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall > from friends that
this update some years back now was pushed > automatically to existing
systems and its not just nvda which relies > on it
either. > > Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it
relatively > simple on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the
whole way > and going to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there.
I'm > assuming that the old version of 7 will still allow the
update. > Brian > > bglists@...> Sent
via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting
'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message
----- From: "Joseph Lee" > < joseph.lee22590@...> >
To: < nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM > Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT
COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, > Windows 7 SP1 or later is
absolutely required > > >> Dear NVDA
community, >> >> >> >> It was brought to
developers' attention that some people were having >>
issues >> upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using
Windows 7 RTM >> build. >> Thus the following community
directive: >> >> >> >> In order to use NVDA
2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or >> later is >>
ABSOLUTELY required. >> >> >> >> To find out
which Windows release you've
got: >> >> >> >> 1. Press Windows key to
open Start menu. >> 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press
Enter. >> 3. Check the build shown on About Windows
dialog. >> >> >> >> If the build number is
7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower >> than >>
that: >> >> >> >> * If using Windows 7 RTM
(build number is 7600), please use NVDA >> 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7
SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. >> * If using versions other
than 7 (build number is less than 7600), >> then NVDA 2017.3 is the
last supported version for you. >> >> >> >>
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum >>
supported >> versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are
using >> StationPlaylist >> Studio add-on, starting from
version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or >> higher >> is
absolutely required. >> >> >> >> Thank
you. >> >> Cheers, >> >>
Joseph >> >> > > >
> > -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask:
"How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a
banana boat!"
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In windows 7 though you have the opportunity to allow them to download and then only install them when yyou want to. In this case I'd always allow service packs as otherwise you are taking a chance on vulnerabilities not being patched. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required Many people turn off automatic updates who have legitimate copies of Windows. They want control over what updates they receive. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Canazzi Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 8:33 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows and have turned off auto update. On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall from friends that this update some years back now was pushed automatically to existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either.
Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively simple on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way and going to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming that the old version of 7 will still allow the update. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
Dear NVDA community,
It was brought to developers' attention that some people were having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM build. Thus the following community directive:
In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later is ABSOLUTELY required.
To find out which Windows release you've got:
1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog.
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower than that:
* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you.
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have been pirates have allowed windows 10 on them, so I think this ias a pink herring. Its more likely they just turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend to be second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the updates had been turned off. You only tend to open the bonnet when things stop working!
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows and have turned off auto update.
On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall from friends that this update some years back now was pushed automatically to existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either.
Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively simple on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way and going to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming that the old version of 7 will still allow the update. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
Dear NVDA community,
It was brought to developers' attention that some people were having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM build. Thus the following community directive:
In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later is ABSOLUTELY required.
To find out which Windows release you've got:
1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog.
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower than that:
* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you.
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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i am completely against any update, no different if updates are for softwares or operating system! i only use anything that i need! On 12/7/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have been pirates have allowed
windows 10 on them, so I think this ias a pink herring. Its more likely they
just turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend to be second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the updates had been
turned off. You only tend to open the bonnet when things stop working!
Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows and have turned off auto update.
On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall from
friends that this update some years back now was pushed automatically to
existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either.
Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively simple
on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way and going
to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming that the
old version of 7 will still allow the update. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
Dear NVDA community,
It was brought to developers' attention that some people were having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM build. Thus the following community directive:
In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later
is ABSOLUTELY required.
To find out which Windows release you've got:
1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog.
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower than that:
* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you.
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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So security issues don't bother you?
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On 12/7/2017 10:59 AM, zahra wrote: i am completely against any update, no different if updates are for softwares or operating system! i only use anything that i need!
On 12/7/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have been pirates have allowed
windows 10 on them, so I think this ias a pink herring. Its more likely they
just turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend to be second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the updates had been
turned off. You only tend to open the bonnet when things stop working!
Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows and have turned off auto update.
On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall from
friends that this update some years back now was pushed automatically to
existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either.
Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively simple
on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way and going
to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming that the
old version of 7 will still allow the update. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
Dear NVDA community,
It was brought to developers' attention that some people were having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM build. Thus the following community directive:
In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later
is ABSOLUTELY required.
To find out which Windows release you've got:
1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog.
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower than that:
* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you.
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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From: zahraSent: 07 December 2017 15:59 To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required i am completely against any update, no different if updates are for softwares or operating system! i only use anything that i need! On 12/7/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: > Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have been pirates have allowed > > windows 10 on them, so I think this ias a pink herring. Its more likely they > > just turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend to be > second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the updates had been > > turned off. You only tend to open the bonnet when things stop working! > > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, > Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required > > >>I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows and >>have turned off auto update. >> >> >> >> On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: >>> Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall from >>> >>> friends that this update some years back now was pushed automatically to >>> >>> existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either. >>> >>> Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively simple >>> >>> on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way and going >>> >>> to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming that the >>> >>> old version of 7 will still allow the update. >>> Brian >>> >>> bglists@... >>> Sent via blueyonder. >>> Please address personal email to:- >>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>> in the display name field. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" >>> <joseph.lee22590@...> >>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM >>> Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, >>> Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required >>> >>> >>>> Dear NVDA community, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It was brought to developers' attention that some people were having >>>> issues >>>> upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM >>>> build. >>>> Thus the following community directive: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later >>>> >>>> is >>>> ABSOLUTELY required. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To find out which Windows release you've got: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. >>>> 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. >>>> 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower >>>> than >>>> that: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA >>>> 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. >>>> * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), >>>> then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum >>>> supported >>>> versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using >>>> StationPlaylist >>>> Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or >>>> higher >>>> is absolutely required. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Joseph >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. >> They ask: "How Happy are You?" >> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!" >> >> >> >> > > > > > -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
That's kind a what I also wonder.
--- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven
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Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 11:54
AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY
DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely
required
So security issues don't bother you?
On
12/7/2017 10:59 AM, zahra wrote: > i am completely against any update,
no different if updates are for > softwares or operating system! >
i only use anything that i need! > > On 12/7/17, Brian's Mail list
account via Groups.Io > <bglists@...>
wrote: >> Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have
been pirates have allowed >> >> windows 10 on them, so I
think this ias a pink herring. Its more likely they >> >>
just turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend to
be >> second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the
updates had been >> >> turned off. You only tend to open the
bonnet when things stop working! >> >>
Brian >> >> bglists@... >>
Sent via blueyonder. >> Please address personal email
to:- >> briang1@..., putting
'Brian Gaff' >> in the display name field. >> ----- Original
Message ----- >> From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> >>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [nvda]
IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, >> Windows 7 SP1
or later is absolutely required >> >> >>> I
wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows
and >>> have turned off auto
update. >>> >>> >>> >>> On
12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
wrote: >>>> Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as
I seem to recall from >>>> >>>> friends that
this update some years back now was pushed automatically
to >>>> >>>> existing systems and its not just
nvda which relies on it either. >>>> >>>> Also
now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively
simple >>>> >>>> on the Microsoft site or would
you suggest going the whole way and
going >>>> >>>> to 10 before 31st Dec while a
free update is there. I'm assuming that
the >>>> >>>> old version of 7 will still allow
the update. >>>> Brian >>>> >>>>
bglists@... >>>>
Sent via blueyonder. >>>> Please address personal email
to:- >>>> briang1@..., putting
'Brian Gaff' >>>> in the display name
field. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph
Lee" >>>> <joseph.lee22590@...> >>>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM >>>> Subject: [nvda]
IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, >>>> Windows
7 SP1 or later is absolutely
required >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear
NVDA
community, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
It was brought to developers' attention that some people were
having >>>>> issues >>>>> upgrading to
NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7
RTM >>>>> build. >>>>> Thus the following
community
directive: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or
later >>>>> >>>>>
is >>>>> ABSOLUTELY
required. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
To find out which Windows release you've
got: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. >>>>> 2. Type
"winver" without quotes and press Enter. >>>>> 3. Check the
build shown on About Windows
dialog. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is
lower >>>>> than >>>>>
that: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use
NVDA >>>>> 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then
update to NVDA 2017.4. >>>>> * If using versions other than
7 (build number is less than 7600), >>>>> then NVDA 2017.3
is the last supported version for
you. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce
minimum >>>>> supported >>>>> versions of
NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using >>>>>
StationPlaylist >>>>> Studio add-on, starting from version
17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or >>>>>
higher >>>>> is absolutely
required. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
Thank you. >>>>> >>>>>
Cheers, >>>>> >>>>>
Joseph >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
-- >>> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. >>> They
ask: "How Happy are You?" >>> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away
chimpanzee on a banana
boat!" >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are
You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana
boat!"
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With respect, This is a wrong perception. Updates nowadays are bringing more security and more functionality. It is more than important to keep everything uptodate. Support will stop after a while for what you are using and it will be harder and harder to adapt to new technologies. If you keep updating regularly, you will be used to learn new functions and it will be very easy to adapt to new things. In 5 years screen readers will be much much different than today. For those who keep staying behind, they will loose the path. Please be aware of that. Best Adriani -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von zahra Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017 16:59 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required i am completely against any update, no different if updates are for softwares or operating system! i only use anything that i need! On 12/7/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have been pirates have allowed
windows 10 on them, so I think this ias a pink herring. Its more likely they
just turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend to be second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the updates had been
turned off. You only tend to open the bonnet when things stop working!
Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows and have turned off auto update.
On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall from
friends that this update some years back now was pushed automatically to
existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either.
Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively simple
on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way and going
to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming that the
old version of 7 will still allow the update. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
Dear NVDA community,
It was brought to developers' attention that some people were having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM build. Thus the following community directive:
In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later
is ABSOLUTELY required.
To find out which Windows release you've got:
1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog.
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower than that:
* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you.
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Oh? It will be a shock. How screen readers will be different in 5 years!
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez Sent: December-07-17 1:07 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required With respect, This is a wrong perception. Updates nowadays are bringing more security and more functionality. It is more than important to keep everything uptodate. Support will stop after a while for what you are using and it will be harder and harder to adapt to new technologies. If you keep updating regularly, you will be used to learn new functions and it will be very easy to adapt to new things. In 5 years screen readers will be much much different than today. For those who keep staying behind, they will loose the path. Please be aware of that. Best Adriani -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von zahra Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017 16:59 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required i am completely against any update, no different if updates are for softwares or operating system! i only use anything that i need! On 12/7/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have been pirates have allowed
windows 10 on them, so I think this ias a pink herring. Its more likely they
just turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend to be second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the updates had been
turned off. You only tend to open the bonnet when things stop working!
Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows and have turned off auto update.
On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall from
friends that this update some years back now was pushed automatically to
existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either.
Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively simple
on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way and going
to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming that the
old version of 7 will still allow the update. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
Dear NVDA community,
It was brought to developers' attention that some people were having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM build. Thus the following community directive:
In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later
is ABSOLUTELY required.
To find out which Windows release you've got:
1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog.
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower than that:
* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you.
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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There will be new functions, much more productivity, much more user experience and so on. Screen readers will get smarter as well. We have to stay on the path to it, not to battle against it.
Best Adriani
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Arlene Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017 22:48 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
Oh? It will be a shock. How screen readers will be different in 5 years!
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez Sent: December-07-17 1:07 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required With respect, This is a wrong perception. Updates nowadays are bringing more security and more functionality. It is more than important to keep everything uptodate. Support will stop after a while for what you are using and it will be harder and harder to adapt to new technologies. If you keep updating regularly, you will be used to learn new functions and it will be very easy to adapt to new things. In 5 years screen readers will be much much different than today. For those who keep staying behind, they will loose the path. Please be aware of that. Best Adriani -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von zahra Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017 16:59 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required i am completely against any update, no different if updates are for softwares or operating system! i only use anything that i need! On 12/7/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have been pirates have allowed
windows 10 on them, so I think this ias a pink herring. Its more likely they
just turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend to be second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the updates had been
turned off. You only tend to open the bonnet when things stop working!
Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows and have turned off auto update.
On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall from
friends that this update some years back now was pushed automatically to
existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either.
Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively simple
on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way and going
to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming that the
old version of 7 will still allow the update. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
Dear NVDA community,
It was brought to developers' attention that some people were having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM build. Thus the following community directive:
In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later
is ABSOLUTELY required.
To find out which Windows release you've got:
1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog.
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower than that:
* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you.
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
Completely agreed. OK, I do have an XP machine
still, but it's definitely not my primary system, and I only use it mainly for
old legacy stuff that refuses to work on newer technology... like my Alva
Satalite display. I'd kill! to get that thing working on my Windows 10 machine,
but every hack, and every driver I've tried, it just won't do it.
--- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven
Ministries
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Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY
DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely
required
With respect, This is a wrong perception. Updates
nowadays are bringing more security and more functionality. It is more than
important to keep everything uptodate. Support will stop after a while for
what you are using and it will be harder and harder to adapt to new
technologies. If you keep updating regularly, you will be used to learn new
functions and it will be very easy to adapt to new things. In 5 years screen
readers will be much much different than today. For those who keep staying
behind, they will loose the path. Please be aware of
that.
Best Adriani
-----Ursprüngliche
Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von zahra Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7.
Dezember 2017 16:59 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re:
[nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or
later is absolutely required
i am completely against any update, no
different if updates are for softwares or operating system! i only use
anything that i need!
On 12/7/17, Brian's Mail list account via
Groups.Io <bglists@...>
wrote: > Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have been
pirates have > allowed > > windows 10 on them, so I think
this ias a pink herring. Its more > likely they > > just
turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend to > be
second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the updates >
had been > > turned off. You only tend to open the bonnet when
things stop working! > > Brian > > bglists@... >
Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting
'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message
----- > From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> > To:
<nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda]
IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, > Windows 7 SP1 or
later is absolutely required > > >>I wonder if those who
have such systems have pirate copies of Windows >>and have turned
off auto update. >> >> >> >> On 12/7/2017
4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: >>> Could
I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall
>>> from >>> >>> friends that this update
some years back now was pushed >>> automatically
to >>> >>> existing systems and its not just nvda
which relies on it either. >>> >>> Also now, how would
a user get it and install it, is it relatively >>>
simple >>> >>> on the Microsoft site or would you
suggest going the whole way and >>>
going >>> >>> to 10 before 31st Dec while a free
update is there. I'm assuming >>> that
the >>> >>> old version of 7 will still allow the
update. >>> Brian >>> >>> bglists@... >>>
Sent via blueyonder. >>> Please address personal email
to:- >>> briang1@..., putting
'Brian Gaff' >>> in the display name field. >>> -----
Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" >>> <joseph.lee22590@...> >>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM >>> Subject: [nvda]
IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, >>> Windows 7
SP1 or later is absolutely
required >>> >>> >>>> Dear NVDA
community, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
It was brought to developers' attention that some people were
>>>> having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out
some were >>>> using Windows 7 RTM build. >>>>
Thus the following community
directive: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or
>>>> later >>>> >>>>
is >>>> ABSOLUTELY
required. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
To find out which Windows release you've
got: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. >>>> 2. Type "winver"
without quotes and press Enter. >>>> 3. Check the build shown
on About Windows
dialog. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is
>>>> lower than >>>>
that: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA
>>>> 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to
NVDA 2017.4. >>>> * If using versions other than 7 (build
number is less than 7600), >>>> then NVDA 2017.3 is the last
supported version for
you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum
>>>> supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if
you are >>>> using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting
from version 17.12 >>>> stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is
absolutely
required. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
Thank you. >>>> >>>>
Cheers, >>>> >>>>
Joseph >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>
-- >> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. >> They ask: "How
Happy are You?" >> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on
a banana
boat!" >> >> >> >> > > >
> >
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the
entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very
authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the
beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying
islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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I believe that! I'm using win 7.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez Sent: December-07-17 1:52 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required There will be new functions, much more productivity, much more user experience and so on. Screen readers will get smarter as well. We have to stay on the path to it, not to battle against it. Best Adriani -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Arlene Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017 22:48 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required Oh? It will be a shock. How screen readers will be different in 5 years! -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez Sent: December-07-17 1:07 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required With respect, This is a wrong perception. Updates nowadays are bringing more security and more functionality. It is more than important to keep everything uptodate. Support will stop after a while for what you are using and it will be harder and harder to adapt to new technologies. If you keep updating regularly, you will be used to learn new functions and it will be very easy to adapt to new things. In 5 years screen readers will be much much different than today. For those who keep staying behind, they will loose the path. Please be aware of that. Best Adriani -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von zahra Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017 16:59 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required i am completely against any update, no different if updates are for softwares or operating system! i only use anything that i need! On 12/7/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have been pirates have allowed
windows 10 on them, so I think this ias a pink herring. Its more likely they
just turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend to be second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the updates had been
turned off. You only tend to open the bonnet when things stop working!
Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows and have turned off auto update.
On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall from
friends that this update some years back now was pushed automatically to
existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either.
Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively simple
on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way and going
to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming that the
old version of 7 will still allow the update. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
Dear NVDA community,
It was brought to developers' attention that some people were having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were using Windows 7 RTM build. Thus the following community directive:
In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later
is ABSOLUTELY required.
To find out which Windows release you've got:
1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog.
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is lower than that:
* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you.
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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You mean your Alva Satalite does not work on win ten? I have an Alva Not sure what it is. It works on 7. Not sure if it’s the one you have. Would be good if it would work on ten. What if the old xp dies? I know a friend who uses win ten. But has an xp clunker like you. He uses it for what xp can do with audio files like convert old vhs video tapes to mp3.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: December-07-17 2:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required Completely agreed. OK, I do have an XP machine still, but it's definitely not my primary system, and I only use it mainly for old legacy stuff that refuses to work on newer technology... like my Alva Satalite display. I'd kill! to get that thing working on my Windows 10 machine, but every hack, and every driver I've tried, it just won't do it. --- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required With respect, This is a wrong perception. Updates nowadays are bringing more security and more functionality. It is more than important to keep everything uptodate. Support will stop after a while for what you are using and it will be harder and harder to adapt to new technologies. If you keep updating regularly, you will be used to learn new functions and it will be very easy to adapt to new things. In 5 years screen readers will be much much different than today. For those who keep staying behind, they will loose the path. Please be aware of that.
Best Adriani
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von zahra Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017 16:59 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
i am completely against any update, no different if updates are for softwares or operating system! i only use anything that i need!
On 12/7/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: > Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have been pirates have > allowed > > windows 10 on them, so I think this ias a pink herring. Its more > likely they > > just turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend to > be second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the updates > had been > > turned off. You only tend to open the bonnet when things stop working! > > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, > Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required > > >>I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows >>and have turned off auto update. >> >> >> >> On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: >>> Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall >>> from >>> >>> friends that this update some years back now was pushed >>> automatically to >>> >>> existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either. >>> >>> Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively >>> simple >>> >>> on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way and >>> going >>> >>> to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming >>> that the >>> >>> old version of 7 will still allow the update. >>> Brian >>> >>> bglists@... >>> Sent via blueyonder. >>> Please address personal email to:- >>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>> in the display name field. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" >>> <joseph.lee22590@...> >>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM >>> Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, >>> Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required >>> >>> >>>> Dear NVDA community, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It was brought to developers' attention that some people were >>>> having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were >>>> using Windows 7 RTM build. >>>> Thus the following community directive: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or >>>> later >>>> >>>> is >>>> ABSOLUTELY required. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To find out which Windows release you've got: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. >>>> 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. >>>> 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is >>>> lower than >>>> that: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA >>>> 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. >>>> * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600), >>>> then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum >>>> supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are >>>> using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 >>>> stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Joseph >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. >> They ask: "How Happy are You?" >> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!" >> >> >> >> > > > > >
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
I think mine is the 584 Pro.
The thing is, first off, I bought the thing used,
which I'm not gonna complain, being I got the thing for $250. Being these things
are normally like, what, 16 grand? OK, some of the cells are a little smashed,
but it's still legible. It could be way way worse than it is!
Anyway, about Win7, Really there're two things with
NVDA, or for that mind, even JAWS, which stand up as a challenge. First off, I
don't think a 64 bit driver ever was created. Secondly, I mention about getting
this display used, as the guy who sold it to me didn't have a male to female
serial cable, plus, even if he did, my Windows 10 machines don't have serial
ports anyway, so whoops, there went that idea.
Secondly, the company who makes the Alva, Optilec I
think, isn't around anymore, and, he didn't have a power cord. Fortunately, if
you connect the display via USB, then it will bus power itself. God forbid you
ever go into its setup menu and disable USB. LOL! I'm not about to be a guinea
pig and try it. LOL!
In NVDA, I've tried BRLTTY, but that doesn't work.
I think I'd need a serial connection for that to work, and plus, again, I'd need
the 64 bit driver.
Anyway, so, yeah...
--- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven
Ministries
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 5:17
PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY
DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely
required
You
mean your Alva Satalite does
not work on win ten? I have an Alva Not sure what it is. It works on
7. Not sure if it’s the one you have. Would be good if it would
work on ten. What if the old xp dies? I know a friend who uses win ten.
But has an xp clunker like you. He uses it for what xp can do with audio files
like convert old vhs video tapes to mp3.
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: December-07-17 2:06
PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT
COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely
required
Completely agreed.
OK, I do have an XP machine still, but it's definitely not my primary system,
and I only use it mainly for old legacy stuff that refuses to work on newer
technology... like my Alva Satalite display. I'd kill! to get that thing
working on my Windows 10 machine, but every hack, and every driver I've tried,
it just won't do it.
--- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe
Haven Ministries
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday,
December 07, 2017 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda]
IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is
absolutely required
With respect, This is a
wrong perception. Updates nowadays are bringing more security and more
functionality. It is more than important to keep everything uptodate.
Support will stop after a while for what you are using and it will be harder
and harder to adapt to new technologies. If you keep updating regularly, you
will be used to learn new functions and it will be very easy to adapt to new
things. In 5 years screen readers will be much much different than today.
For those who keep staying behind, they will loose the path. Please be aware
of that.
Best Adriani
-----Ursprüngliche
Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag
von zahra Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017 16:59 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re:
[nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or
later is absolutely required
i am completely against any update, no
different if updates are for softwares or operating system! i only use
anything that i need!
On 12/7/17, Brian's Mail list account via
Groups.Io <bglists@...>
wrote: > Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have been
pirates have > allowed > > windows 10 on them, so I think
this ias a pink herring. Its more > likely they > > just
turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend to > be
second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the updates >
had been > > turned off. You only tend to open the bonnet when
things stop working! > > Brian > > bglists@... >
Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting
'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original
Message ----- > From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> > To:
<nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda]
IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, > Windows 7 SP1 or
later is absolutely required > > >>I wonder if those
who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows >>and have
turned off auto update. >> >> >> >> On
12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
wrote: >>> Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I
seem to recall >>> from >>> >>> friends
that this update some years back now was pushed >>>
automatically to >>> >>> existing systems and its
not just nvda which relies on it either. >>> >>>
Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively
>>> simple >>> >>> on the Microsoft
site or would you suggest going the whole way and >>>
going >>> >>> to 10 before 31st Dec while a free
update is there. I'm assuming >>> that
the >>> >>> old version of 7 will still allow the
update. >>> Brian >>> >>> bglists@... >>>
Sent via blueyonder. >>> Please address personal email
to:- >>> briang1@..., putting
'Brian Gaff' >>> in the display name field. >>>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" >>> <joseph.lee22590@...> >>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM >>> Subject: [nvda]
IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, >>> Windows
7 SP1 or later is absolutely
required >>> >>> >>>> Dear NVDA
community, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
It was brought to developers' attention that some people were
>>>> having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out
some were >>>> using Windows 7 RTM
build. >>>> Thus the following community
directive: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or
>>>> later >>>> >>>>
is >>>> ABSOLUTELY
required. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
To find out which Windows release you've
got: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. >>>> 2. Type
"winver" without quotes and press Enter. >>>> 3. Check the
build shown on About Windows
dialog. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is
>>>> lower than >>>>
that: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
* If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA
>>>> 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to
NVDA 2017.4. >>>> * If using versions other than 7 (build
number is less than 7600), >>>> then NVDA 2017.3 is the last
supported version for
you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum
>>>> supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if
you are >>>> using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting
from version 17.12 >>>> stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is
absolutely
required. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
Thank you. >>>> >>>>
Cheers, >>>> >>>>
Joseph >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>
-- >> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. >> They ask:
"How Happy are You?" >> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away
chimpanzee on a banana
boat!" >> >> >> >> > > >
> >
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the
entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very
authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the
beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying
islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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no, i dont think and its not important updating anything for me. i found my goal in my life and i have many many extremely important things to think about them and put my effort to achieve them! updating and learning new technology is not important for me and is not a goal in my life!
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On 12/8/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote: I think mine is the 584 Pro.
The thing is, first off, I bought the thing used, which I'm not gonna complain, being I got the thing for $250. Being these things are normally like, what, 16 grand? OK, some of the cells are a little smashed, but it's still legible. It could be way way worse than it is!
Anyway, about Win7, Really there're two things with NVDA, or for that mind, even JAWS, which stand up as a challenge. First off, I don't think a 64 bit driver ever was created. Secondly, I mention about getting this display used, as the guy who sold it to me didn't have a male to female serial cable, plus, even if he did, my Windows 10 machines don't have serial ports anyway, so whoops, there went that idea.
Secondly, the company who makes the Alva, Optilec I think, isn't around anymore, and, he didn't have a power cord. Fortunately, if you connect the display via USB, then it will bus power itself. God forbid you ever go into its setup menu and disable USB. LOL! I'm not about to be a guinea pig and try it. LOL!
In NVDA, I've tried BRLTTY, but that doesn't work. I think I'd need a serial connection for that to work, and plus, again, I'd need the 64 bit driver.
Anyway, so, yeah... --- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministry.org (980) 500-9575 ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
You mean your Alva Satalite does not work on win ten? I have an Alva Not sure what it is. It works on 7. Not sure if it’s the one you have. Would be good if it would work on ten. What if the old xp dies? I know a friend who uses win ten. But has an xp clunker like you. He uses it for what xp can do with audio files like convert old vhs video tapes to mp3.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: December-07-17 2:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
Completely agreed. OK, I do have an XP machine still, but it's definitely not my primary system, and I only use it mainly for old legacy stuff that refuses to work on newer technology... like my Alva Satalite display. I'd kill! to get that thing working on my Windows 10 machine, but every hack, and every driver I've tried, it just won't do it.
--- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministry.org (980) 500-9575
----- Original Message -----
From: Adriani Botez
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
With respect, This is a wrong perception. Updates nowadays are bringing more security and more functionality. It is more than important to keep everything uptodate. Support will stop after a while for what you are using and it will be harder and harder to adapt to new technologies. If you keep updating regularly, you will be used to learn new functions and it will be very easy to adapt to new things. In 5 years screen readers will be much much different than today. For those who keep staying behind, they will loose the path. Please be aware of that.
Best Adriani
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von zahra Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Dezember 2017 16:59 An: nvda@nvda.groups.io Betreff: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required
i am completely against any update, no different if updates are for softwares or operating system! i only use anything that i need!
On 12/7/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: > Not necessarily, many of the ones that could have been pirates have > allowed > > windows 10 on them, so I think this ias a pink herring. Its more > likely they > > just turned them off then forgot. Also some of those machines tend to
> be second user hand me downs so they are probably unaware the updates
> had been > > turned off. You only tend to open the bonnet when things stop working! > > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4,
> Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required > > >>I wonder if those who have such systems have pirate copies of Windows
>>and have turned off auto update. >> >> >> >> On 12/7/2017 4:58 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: >>> Could I ask how people could end up without sp1, as I seem to recall
>>> from >>> >>> friends that this update some years back now was pushed >>> automatically to >>> >>> existing systems and its not just nvda which relies on it either. >>> >>> Also now, how would a user get it and install it, is it relatively >>> simple >>> >>> on the Microsoft site or would you suggest going the whole way and >>> going >>> >>> to 10 before 31st Dec while a free update is there. I'm assuming >>> that the >>> >>> old version of 7 will still allow the update. >>> Brian >>> >>> bglists@... >>> Sent via blueyonder. >>> Please address personal email to:- >>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>> in the display name field. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" >>> <joseph.lee22590@...> >>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:18 PM >>> Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DIRECTIVE: to use NVDA 2017.4, >>> Windows 7 SP1 or later is absolutely required >>> >>> >>>> Dear NVDA community, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It was brought to developers' attention that some people were >>>> having issues upgrading to NVDA 2017.4, and turns out some were >>>> using Windows 7 RTM build. >>>> Thus the following community directive: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In order to use NVDA 2017.4 or later, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or >>>> later >>>> >>>> is >>>> ABSOLUTELY required. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To find out which Windows release you've got: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. Press Windows key to open Start menu. >>>> 2. Type "winver" without quotes and press Enter. >>>> 3. Check the build shown on About Windows dialog. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If the build number is 7601 or higher, you're all set. If it is >>>> lower than >>>> that: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * If using Windows 7 RTM (build number is 7600), please use NVDA >>>> 2017.3, upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 first, then update to NVDA 2017.4. >>>> * If using versions other than 7 (build number is less than 7600),
>>>> then NVDA 2017.3 is the last supported version for you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In the next few weeks, some add-on authors will announce minimum >>>> supported versions of NVDA and Windows. For example, if you are >>>> using StationPlaylist Studio add-on, starting from version 17.12 >>>> stable, Windows 7 SP1 or higher is absolutely required. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Joseph >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. >> They ask: "How Happy are You?" >> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!" >> >> >> >> > > > > >
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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