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Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

 

Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best to describe.


When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.


I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the least.

Dejan Ristic
 

Hi from me,


You say that you happen to face it on Firefox. I face it on Google Chrome. That's to say, when I come upon the like button in the reactions toolbar area while in the browse mode, NVDA automatically switches to the focus mode. And then, when I hit escape as you do, NVDA's focus is thrown somewhere else. To get rid of the inconveniences, I go to the NVDA menu, choose the advanced submenu, and then tab to the automatically set system focus to focusable elements to uncheck it just to stop NVDA's focus skipping of its own accord. When I do that, I can use www.facebook.com much better when I walk through the reactions area and the comments area.


Both Chrome and NVDA are the latest versions (NVDA being the latest stable).


Dejan

On 27/06/2020 04:41, Governor staten wrote:
Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best to describe.


When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.


I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the least.


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Gene
 

You might stop the entire problem by turning automatic switching tbetween browse mode and focus mode off. Just one more example of too much automation and why it is better to switch between these states manually.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 6:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

Hi from me,


You say that you happen to face it on Firefox. I face it on Google
Chrome. That's to say, when I come upon the like button in the reactions
toolbar area while in the browse mode, NVDA automatically switches to
the focus mode. And then, when I hit escape as you do, NVDA's focus is
thrown somewhere else. To get rid of the inconveniences, I go to the
NVDA menu, choose the advanced submenu, and then tab to the
automatically set system focus to focusable elements to uncheck it just
to stop NVDA's focus skipping of its own accord. When I do that, I can
use www.facebook.com much better when I walk through the reactions area
and the comments area.


Both Chrome and NVDA are the latest versions (NVDA being the latest
stable).


Dejan

On 27/06/2020 04:41, Governor staten wrote:
Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best to describe.


When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.


I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the least.



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It doesn't fix anything. When I press enter in comments area to add my comment, it puts me in the reactions area.





On 6/27/2020 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:
You might stop the entire problem by turning automatic switching tbetween browse mode and focus mode off.  Just one more example of too much automation and why it is better to switch between these states manually.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 6:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

Hi from me,


You say that you happen to face it on Firefox. I face it on Google
Chrome. That's to say, when I come upon the like button in the reactions
toolbar area while in the browse mode, NVDA automatically switches to
the focus mode. And then, when I hit escape as you do, NVDA's focus is
thrown somewhere else. To get rid of the inconveniences, I go to the
NVDA menu, choose the advanced submenu, and then tab to the
automatically set system focus to focusable elements to uncheck it just
to stop NVDA's focus skipping of its own accord. When I do that, I can
use www.facebook.com much better when I walk through the reactions area
and the comments area.


Both Chrome and NVDA are the latest versions (NVDA being the latest
stable).


Dejan

On 27/06/2020 04:41, Governor staten wrote:
Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best to describe.


When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.


I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the least.





Gene
 

Are you already in forms mode and have you tabbed to where you want to be? If you have first moved there in browse mode, then pressed enter. you may be in the wrong place because the browse mode buffer may not be lining up with the actual page, where you are when you switch to browse mode.

My suggestions may not help. Some pages don't work properly no matter what you do, but what I'm suggesting may make some pages useful.

You might also achieve success by trying another browser and screen-reader.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Governor staten
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 7:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox



It doesn't fix anything. When I press enter in comments area to add my comment, it puts me in the reactions area.












On 6/27/2020 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:
You might stop the entire problem by turning automatic switching tbetween browse mode and focus mode off. Just one more example of too much automation and why it is better to switch between these states manually.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 6:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

Hi from me,


You say that you happen to face it on Firefox. I face it on Google
Chrome. That's to say, when I come upon the like button in the reactions
toolbar area while in the browse mode, NVDA automatically switches to
the focus mode. And then, when I hit escape as you do, NVDA's focus is
thrown somewhere else. To get rid of the inconveniences, I go to the
NVDA menu, choose the advanced submenu, and then tab to the
automatically set system focus to focusable elements to uncheck it just
to stop NVDA's focus skipping of its own accord. When I do that, I can
use www.facebook.com much better when I walk through the reactions area
and the comments area.


Both Chrome and NVDA are the latest versions (NVDA being the latest
stable).


Dejan

On 27/06/2020 04:41, Governor staten wrote:
Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best to describe.


When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.


I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the least.

Gene
 

Also, I've seen the comment on some lists that Internet Explorer works better with the Face Book site. I don't know if that’s all the varieties of the site but it may solve your problem. While I generally recommend not to use IE11, in this case, it may be the thing to do.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Governor staten
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 7:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox



It doesn't fix anything. When I press enter in comments area to add my comment, it puts me in the reactions area.












On 6/27/2020 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:
You might stop the entire problem by turning automatic switching tbetween browse mode and focus mode off. Just one more example of too much automation and why it is better to switch between these states manually.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 6:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

Hi from me,


You say that you happen to face it on Firefox. I face it on Google
Chrome. That's to say, when I come upon the like button in the reactions
toolbar area while in the browse mode, NVDA automatically switches to
the focus mode. And then, when I hit escape as you do, NVDA's focus is
thrown somewhere else. To get rid of the inconveniences, I go to the
NVDA menu, choose the advanced submenu, and then tab to the
automatically set system focus to focusable elements to uncheck it just
to stop NVDA's focus skipping of its own accord. When I do that, I can
use www.facebook.com much better when I walk through the reactions area
and the comments area.


Both Chrome and NVDA are the latest versions (NVDA being the latest
stable).


Dejan

On 27/06/2020 04:41, Governor staten wrote:
Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best to describe.


When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.


I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the least.

Arlene
 

Yes, facebook did quite well on IE. I used it on my old windows 7 box.

 

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From: Gene
Sent: June 27, 2020 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

 

Also, I've seen the comment on some lists that Internet Explorer works

better with the Face Book site.  I don't know if that’s all the varieties of

the site but it may solve your problem.  While I generally recommend not to

use IE11, in this case, it may be the thing to do.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Governor staten

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 7:52 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

 

 

 

It doesn't fix anything. When I press enter in comments area to add my

comment, it puts me in the reactions area.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 6/27/2020 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:

You might stop the entire problem by turning automatic switching tbetween

browse mode and focus mode off.  Just one more example of too much

automation and why it is better to switch between these states manually.

 

Gene

-----Original Message----- From: Dejan Ristic

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 6:15 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

 

Hi from me,

 

 

You say that you happen to face it on Firefox. I face it on Google

Chrome. That's to say, when I come upon the like button in the reactions

toolbar area while in the browse mode, NVDA automatically switches to

the focus mode. And then, when I hit escape as you do, NVDA's focus is

thrown somewhere else. To get rid of the inconveniences, I go to the

NVDA menu, choose the advanced submenu, and then tab to the

automatically set system focus to focusable elements to uncheck it just

to stop NVDA's focus skipping of its own accord. When I do that, I can

use www.facebook.com much better when I walk through the reactions area

and the comments area.

 

 

Both Chrome and NVDA are the latest versions (NVDA being the latest

stable).

 

 

Dejan

 

On 27/06/2020 04:41, Governor staten wrote:

Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus

issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m

using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had

focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best

to describe.

 

 

When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to

heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I

press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press

escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.

 

 

I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the

reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the

page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the

least.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Arlene
 

Oh that’s awful!   How does Chrome work with facebook? I’m using the Ipad I share with my room mate. I find facebook is easier with the I pad.  I’ve never tried it on windows ten yet. That’s why I’m asking how well does it work with either Microsoft edge or Chrome?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Governor staten
Sent: June 27, 2020 5:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

 

It doesn't fix anything. When I press enter in comments area to add my comment, it puts me in the reactions area.

 

 

 

On 6/27/2020 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:

You might stop the entire problem by turning automatic switching tbetween browse mode and focus mode off.  Just one more example of too much automation and why it is better to switch between these states manually.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 6:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus Issues on Facebook Desktop Site Using Firefox

Hi from me,


You say that you happen to face it on Firefox. I face it on Google
Chrome. That's to say, when I come upon the like button in the reactions
toolbar area while in the browse mode, NVDA automatically switches to
the focus mode. And then, when I hit escape as you do, NVDA's focus is
thrown somewhere else. To get rid of the inconveniences, I go to the
NVDA menu, choose the advanced submenu, and then tab to the
automatically set system focus to focusable elements to uncheck it just
to stop NVDA's focus skipping of its own accord. When I do that, I can
use www.facebook.com much better when I walk through the reactions area
and the comments area.


Both Chrome and NVDA are the latest versions (NVDA being the latest
stable).


Dejan

On 27/06/2020 04:41, Governor staten wrote:

Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best to describe.


When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.


I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the least.



 

 

George McCoy
 

That doesn't work for me. I face this issue in all Chromium-based browsers, firefox and the old edge.

One thing that helps a bit is to get into the habit of using nvda plus spacebar to turn off focus mode.  It almost seems that the escape key is getting through to facebook.

If I get stuck in the reactions area, I find that clicking one of the reaction buttons using the spacebar lets me exit focus mode using nvda plus spacebar without zinging off to the bottom of the newsfeed or list of posts in a group.

This behavior makes it nearly impossible to use facebook desktop efficiently.


George

On 6/27/2020 6:15 AM, Dejan Ristic wrote:
Hi from me,


You say that you happen to face it on Firefox. I face it on Google Chrome. That's to say, when I come upon the like button in the reactions toolbar area while in the browse mode, NVDA automatically switches to the focus mode. And then, when I hit escape as you do, NVDA's focus is thrown somewhere else. To get rid of the inconveniences, I go to the NVDA menu, choose the advanced submenu, and then tab to the automatically set system focus to focusable elements to uncheck it just to stop NVDA's focus skipping of its own accord. When I do that, I can use www.facebook.com much better when I walk through the reactions area and the comments area.


Both Chrome and NVDA are the latest versions (NVDA being the latest stable).


Dejan

On 27/06/2020 04:41, Governor staten wrote:
Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best to describe.


When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.


I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the least.



William Wong
 

I was using 2020.1 and was unable to use NVDA to play live video from facebook.


Governor staten 於 27/6/2020 10:41 寫道:

Hello. Is the subject apt for anyone else but me? I am having many focus issues on the Facebook desktop site, using NVDA alpha-20400,675c4c54. I"m using Firefox 77.0.1 on Windows 10 version 1909 Build 18363.900. I've had focus issues for quite some time. Here are latest issues. I will do my best to describe.


When I read posts, I use browse mode, pressing "h" to move from heading to heading. If I want to like a post, I navigate to the like button. When I press enter on it, it appears to be stuck in the reactions area. If I press escape, I am thrown somewhere else on the page.


I try to comment on a post I liked, and it has me doing things to the reactions. I hit the escape key and again, I"m thrown somewhere else on the page. I hope I can help you all solve this one. It is annoying, to say the least.


William Wong
 

Gene,

I am not sure about this, cause Facebook had been altering its design this or last month, which IE may have bben working well with the old site, but not the current site.

Bhavya shah
 

Hi all,

I too have been facing general focus issues with www.facebook.com
whether on Firefox or on Brave (a derivative of Chrome). In general,
my recommendation is to use m.facebook.com instead which gets most of
the job done with a far more accessible interface. The reason why I
need to sometimes switch to facebook.com is to fully use Messenger,
for which the mobile site has only basic support. Even in those short
durations, facebook.com troubles me sufficiently.
On another note, I have just checked the Automatically set system
focus to focusable elements check box in NVDA's Advanced Settings to
see if it makes a difference. Are there any known side-effects of this
that I should be aware of? Please let me know.

Thanks.

On 6/29/20, William Wong <@WaiWilliam> wrote:
Gene,

I am not sure about this, cause Facebook had been altering its design
this or last month, which IE may have bben working well with the old
site, but not the current site.





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