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juan gonzalez <jgonzalezh614@...> #853 does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA?
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Mallard <mallard@...> #858 Hello, No, it doesn't. In the old days, when the programme was first released, someone asked about accessibility, but the dev said he didn't know anything about accessibility, and didn't want to get involved. He said that, since the software is open source, whoeer wanted to delve into that, could do so... Sumatra pdf doesn't have a text viewer, so no text can be read. Pity, because it also reads epubs, amongst other things. Hovever, i found that it does a great job saving pdf files to txt. Of all these pdf reading programme, this is the one that "ruins" the format least of all. hth, Ciao, Ollie toggle quoted message Show quoted text Il 15/03/2016 20:33, juan gonzalez ha scritto: does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA?
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juan gonzalez <jgonzalezh614@...> #863 thank you for your input. guess i have to stay with Adobe. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 3/15/2016 3:44 PM, Mallard wrote: Hello, No, it doesn't. In the old days, when the programme was first released, someone asked about accessibility, but the dev said he didn't know anything about accessibility, and didn't want to get involved. He said that, since the software is open source, whoeer wanted to delve into that, could do so... Sumatra pdf doesn't have a text viewer, so no text can be read. Pity, because it also reads epubs, amongst other things. Hovever, i found that it does a great job saving pdf files to txt. Of all these pdf reading programme, this is the one that "ruins" the format least of all. hth, Ciao, Ollie Il 15/03/2016 20:33, juan gonzalez ha scritto: does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA?
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zahra #882 hi. thanks extremely for asking this questions. because i wished that someone asked and i found the reply. i realy wish to use sumatra. because: its realy simple, open source, has persian translation and use little system resources, fast, stable and its simpleness even for novice people like me. but adobe its very professional and with complex settings and i could not tolerate it. when i used adobe most of times, the program crashed, my system hanged and i turned my system off only with the power botton in my laptop and i did not have any way to prevent my system from these terrible hangs. and i uninstalled it forever. i wish that we united and send letter for its developers together and request for its accessibility or take help from someone who knows programming and is familiar with accessibility. since this program is open source, we have many doors that we can open them to benefit from this program and we should insist on to achieve our legal goal. moreover, i heard that this program its accessible for narrator. hope for very fast solution. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 3/16/16, juan gonzalez <jgonzalezh614@...> wrote: thank you for your input. guess i have to stay with Adobe. On 3/15/2016 3:44 PM, Mallard wrote: Hello, No, it doesn't. In the old days, when the programme was first released, someone asked about accessibility, but the dev said he didn't know anything about accessibility, and didn't want to get involved. He said that, since the software is open source, whoeer wanted to delve into that, could do so... Sumatra pdf doesn't have a text viewer, so no text can be read. Pity, because it also reads epubs, amongst other things. Hovever, i found that it does a great job saving pdf files to txt. Of all these pdf reading programme, this is the one that "ruins" the format least of all. hth, Ciao, Ollie Il 15/03/2016 20:33, juan gonzalez ha scritto: does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA? -- Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful. holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Mallard <mallard@...> #887 Hello, Yes, I agree. We should involve someone who knows about programming and accessibilty, so that the programme could be made usable by the blind. It is easy to use and, on top of it all, it's also got a portable version... I'm ready and willing to join a petition to the devs to make the programme accessible. I know nothing about programming, so I have no idea of what making the programme accessible would entail, but it would be great to have such a fast-loading, clean and easy-to-use tool available. It also reads apubs, which would make it an even more valuable tool. I repeat, I'm willing and rady to go for it, if a joint letter or petition is created and sent out to the devs. alternatively, if there's anyone among us who knows enough about programming, and would be willing and able to make the software accessible (possibly even through an NVDA add-on), Ok, there's the challenge... Who's picking it up? (smile). Ciao, Ollie toggle quoted message Show quoted text Il 16/03/2016 10:09, nasrin khaksar ha scritto: hi. thanks extremely for asking this questions. because i wished that someone asked and i found the reply. i realy wish to use sumatra. because: its realy simple, open source, has persian translation and use little system resources, fast, stable and its simpleness even for novice people like me. but adobe its very professional and with complex settings and i could not tolerate it. when i used adobe most of times, the program crashed, my system hanged and i turned my system off only with the power botton in my laptop and i did not have any way to prevent my system from these terrible hangs. and i uninstalled it forever. i wish that we united and send letter for its developers together and request for its accessibility or take help from someone who knows programming and is familiar with accessibility. since this program is open source, we have many doors that we can open them to benefit from this program and we should insist on to achieve our legal goal. moreover, i heard that this program its accessible for narrator. hope for very fast solution. On 3/16/16, juan gonzalez <jgonzalezh614@...> wrote: thank you for your input. guess i have to stay with Adobe. On 3/15/2016 3:44 PM, Mallard wrote: Hello, No, it doesn't. In the old days, when the programme was first released, someone asked about accessibility, but the dev said he didn't know anything about accessibility, and didn't want to get involved. He said that, since the software is open source, whoeer wanted to delve into that, could do so... Sumatra pdf doesn't have a text viewer, so no text can be read. Pity, because it also reads epubs, amongst other things. Hovever, i found that it does a great job saving pdf files to txt. Of all these pdf reading programme, this is the one that "ruins" the format least of all. hth, Ciao, Ollie Il 15/03/2016 20:33, juan gonzalez ha scritto: does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA?
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Mallard <mallard@...> #888 Hello Juan, I can recommend keeping at least a portable version of Sumatrapdf, which comes in really, really handy if you want to save a document as txt. The menus are accessible. If you open a document, even if you can't read it straight away, you can save it as txt (in case you need to do so), and the result is the best I've had for this purpose. Much better than Foxit, which inserta lines with page numbers, that can be bothering; better than Adobe, which I haven't used for years, but didn't work as nicely as Sumatra... Ciao, hth, Ollie toggle quoted message Show quoted text Il 16/03/2016 00:46, juan gonzalez ha scritto: thank you for your input. guess i have to stay with Adobe. On 3/15/2016 3:44 PM, Mallard wrote: Hello, No, it doesn't. In the old days, when the programme was first released, someone asked about accessibility, but the dev said he didn't know anything about accessibility, and didn't want to get involved. He said that, since the software is open source, whoeer wanted to delve into that, could do so... Sumatra pdf doesn't have a text viewer, so no text can be read. Pity, because it also reads epubs, amongst other things. Hovever, i found that it does a great job saving pdf files to txt. Of all these pdf reading programme, this is the one that "ruins" the format least of all. hth, Ciao, Ollie Il 15/03/2016 20:33, juan gonzalez ha scritto: does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA?
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zahra #919 hi. i am ready for any help too. i dont have the email address of sumatra pdf reader. if someone give me the address, shurely i send email for them to make it accessible. i know only mohammad that his major is computer and maybe helps us. i wrote email him many months ago and i mentioned my request. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 3/16/16, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote: Hello Juan, I can recommend keeping at least a portable version of Sumatrapdf, which comes in really, really handy if you want to save a document as txt. The menus are accessible. If you open a document, even if you can't read it straight away, you can save it as txt (in case you need to do so), and the result is the best I've had for this purpose. Much better than Foxit, which inserta lines with page numbers, that can be bothering; better than Adobe, which I haven't used for years, but didn't work as nicely as Sumatra... Ciao, hth, Ollie Il 16/03/2016 00:46, juan gonzalez ha scritto: thank you for your input. guess i have to stay with Adobe. On 3/15/2016 3:44 PM, Mallard wrote: Hello, No, it doesn't. In the old days, when the programme was first released, someone asked about accessibility, but the dev said he didn't know anything about accessibility, and didn't want to get involved. He said that, since the software is open source, whoeer wanted to delve into that, could do so... Sumatra pdf doesn't have a text viewer, so no text can be read. Pity, because it also reads epubs, amongst other things. Hovever, i found that it does a great job saving pdf files to txt. Of all these pdf reading programme, this is the one that "ruins" the format least of all. hth, Ciao, Ollie Il 15/03/2016 20:33, juan gonzalez ha scritto: does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA? -- Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful. holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Mallard <mallard@...> #926 Hello Nasrim and all, The only email address I can find on the site is kkowalzyk@... Otherwise there is a forum or it sends you to Github, if you are a dev and want to cooperate. hth, Ciao, Ollie toggle quoted message Show quoted text Il 17/03/2016 04:56, nasrin khaksar ha scritto: hi. i am ready for any help too. i dont have the email address of sumatra pdf reader. if someone give me the address, shurely i send email for them to make it accessible. i know only mohammad that his major is computer and maybe helps us. i wrote email him many months ago and i mentioned my request. On 3/16/16, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote: Hello Juan, I can recommend keeping at least a portable version of Sumatrapdf, which comes in really, really handy if you want to save a document as txt. The menus are accessible. If you open a document, even if you can't read it straight away, you can save it as txt (in case you need to do so), and the result is the best I've had for this purpose. Much better than Foxit, which inserta lines with page numbers, that can be bothering; better than Adobe, which I haven't used for years, but didn't work as nicely as Sumatra... Ciao, hth, Ollie Il 16/03/2016 00:46, juan gonzalez ha scritto: thank you for your input. guess i have to stay with Adobe. On 3/15/2016 3:44 PM, Mallard wrote: Hello, No, it doesn't. In the old days, when the programme was first released, someone asked about accessibility, but the dev said he didn't know anything about accessibility, and didn't want to get involved. He said that, since the software is open source, whoeer wanted to delve into that, could do so... Sumatra pdf doesn't have a text viewer, so no text can be read. Pity, because it also reads epubs, amongst other things. Hovever, i found that it does a great job saving pdf files to txt. Of all these pdf reading programme, this is the one that "ruins" the format least of all. hth, Ciao, Ollie Il 15/03/2016 20:33, juan gonzalez ha scritto: does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA?
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Supanut Leepaisomboon #927 I'd like it to be accessible as well. Adobe's Adobe's Acrobat Reader DC has stopped being free, and is getting sort of out-of-date, so a better PDF reader is welcomed. In the meantime, are there any accessible, up-dt-date PDF readers?
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Shaun Everiss #929 Where did you get that. the adobe acrobat reader dc in fact audiobe readers period are still free. Have you even tried to update it? I just got the latest update yes its still 2015 but the last version was this year. balabolka is another free one. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 17/03/2016 11:00 p.m., Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote: I'd like it to be accessible as well. Adobe's Adobe's Acrobat Reader DC has stopped being free, and is getting sort of out-of-date, so a better PDF reader is welcomed. In the meantime, are there any accessible, up-dt-date PDF readers?
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Mallard <mallard@...> #930 Hello there, Adobe is free, I think, but it's much too bulky. Sumatra is very lightweight, and it reads a lot of other formats as well as pdf - epub, mobi, chm amongst others, but we can't benefit from that, because it isn't accessible. Ciao, Ollie toggle quoted message Show quoted text Il 17/03/2016 11:00, Supanut Leepaisomboon ha scritto: I'd like it to be accessible as well. Adobe's Adobe's Acrobat Reader DC has stopped being free, and is getting sort of out-of-date, so a better PDF reader is welcomed. In the meantime, are there any accessible, up-dt-date PDF readers?
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Mallard <mallard@...> #931 Sorry Nasrin, I see I spelled your name wrongi nm y previous message... Forgive me, please. Ciao, Ollie toggle quoted message Show quoted text Il 17/03/2016 10:56, Mallard ha scritto: Hello Nasrim and all, The only email address I can find on the site is kkowalzyk@... Otherwise there is a forum or it sends you to Github, if you are a dev and want to cooperate. hth, Ciao, Ollie Il 17/03/2016 04:56, nasrin khaksar ha scritto: hi. i am ready for any help too. i dont have the email address of sumatra pdf reader. if someone give me the address, shurely i send email for them to make it accessible. i know only mohammad that his major is computer and maybe helps us. i wrote email him many months ago and i mentioned my request. On 3/16/16, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote: Hello Juan, I can recommend keeping at least a portable version of Sumatrapdf, which comes in really, really handy if you want to save a document as txt. The menus are accessible. If you open a document, even if you can't read it straight away, you can save it as txt (in case you need to do so), and the result is the best I've had for this purpose. Much better than Foxit, which inserta lines with page numbers, that can be bothering; better than Adobe, which I haven't used for years, but didn't work as nicely as Sumatra... Ciao, hth, Ollie Il 16/03/2016 00:46, juan gonzalez ha scritto: thank you for your input. guess i have to stay with Adobe. On 3/15/2016 3:44 PM, Mallard wrote: Hello, No, it doesn't. In the old days, when the programme was first released, someone asked about accessibility, but the dev said he didn't know anything about accessibility, and didn't want to get involved. He said that, since the software is open source, whoeer wanted to delve into that, could do so... Sumatra pdf doesn't have a text viewer, so no text can be read. Pity, because it also reads epubs, amongst other things. Hovever, i found that it does a great job saving pdf files to txt. Of all these pdf reading programme, this is the one that "ruins" the format least of all. hth, Ciao, Ollie Il 15/03/2016 20:33, juan gonzalez ha scritto: does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA?
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Supanut Leepaisomboon #932 Oh, yes it's free. Strangely it's not listed in Ninight or File Hippo as free software...
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zahra #945 hi mallard. no problem dont worry. thanks so much for giving me the email address. i realy extol the virtues of open source programs and i love that they become accessible. do you help me to send email for the developers? thanks so much. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 3/17/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote: Oh, yes it's free. Strangely it's not listed in Ninight or File Hippo as free software... -- Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful. holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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zahra #946 hi every one. who can help me to work with balabolka in skype? for example: when i use internet, i can press shift and down arrow to select one line, but in balabolka cant. it seems that shift key does not work in balabolka and has not any place! toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 3/17/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote: hi mallard. no problem dont worry. thanks so much for giving me the email address. i realy extol the virtues of open source programs and i love that they become accessible. do you help me to send email for the developers? thanks so much. On 3/17/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote: Oh, yes it's free. Strangely it's not listed in Ninight or File Hippo as free software... -- Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful. holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org -- Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful. holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Mallard <mallard@...> #952 Hello Nasrin, Sure, we can end an email to the devs of Sumatra whenever you like. Contact me off-list, so we can write it and send it. Ciao, Ollie toggle quoted message Show quoted text Il 17/03/2016 17:15, nasrin khaksar ha scritto: hi mallard. no problem dont worry. thanks so much for giving me the email address. i realy extol the virtues of open source programs and i love that they become accessible. do you help me to send email for the developers? thanks so much. On 3/17/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote: Oh, yes it's free. Strangely it's not listed in Ninight or File Hippo as free software...
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mohammad suliman #1088 hi all, I am willing to help also, please keep us updated. all the best, Mohammad toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 3/17/2016 7:46 PM, Mallard wrote: Hello Nasrin, Sure, we can end an email to the devs of Sumatra whenever you like. Contact me off-list, so we can write it and send it. Ciao, Ollie Il 17/03/2016 17:15, nasrin khaksar ha scritto: hi mallard. no problem dont worry. thanks so much for giving me the email address. i realy extol the virtues of open source programs and i love that they become accessible. do you help me to send email for the developers? thanks so much. On 3/17/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote: Oh, yes it's free. Strangely it's not listed in Ninight or File Hippo as free software...
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