Hello all,

I have a long time a problem with Nvda.

It several times reads subjects in Emails.

Is possible to set Nvda, for reading of a subject once only?

Sincerely


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Jarek

Hello all,

I have a long time a problem with Nvda.

It several times reads subjects in Emails.

Is possible to set Nvda, for reading of a subject once only?

Sincerely

Hello all,

I have a long time a problem with Nvda.

It several times reads subjects in Emails.

Is possible to set Nvda, for reading of a subject once only?

Sincerely

Jarek (and anyone else),

         What e-mail client are you using?   Are you opening your messages in their own windows for reading?

         I know the behavior you're talking about, but I don't think it's the actual subject being read multiple times, but because the subject is also the window title in a message window, that's getting read, followed by the actual subject.   In Outlook 2016, if I open a message sent to me in plain text, and I'll use "Keep Forgetting" as the subject, the window title is "Keep Forgetting - Message (Plain Text)", and the actual Subject entry is just Keep Forgetting.  NVDA starts by reading the window title (much like it would say File Explorer when you are in File Explorer or Mozilla Thunderbird if you were using that client and were in the main window) then immediately repeats itself with only the subject because that's the next item in the reading sequence for a message.  Getting the subject read twice is an artifact of how the window for reading same is set up.  If you're getting more than two times, then I'd have to look at the exact client and how the message is being read to determine if what's in the subject is somehow being presented somewhere that NVDA reads a third time.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

. . . the presumption of innocence, while essential in the legal realm, does not mean the elimination of common sense outside it.  The willing suspension of disbelief has its limits, or should.

 

    ~ Ruth Marcus,  November 10, 2017, in Washington Post article, Bannon is right: It’s no coincidence The Post broke the Moore story

 

 

Hi Brian,

I am using Mozilla Thunderbird, because I can create a rules, while in Windows it isn't possible.


Jarek
Dne 04.08.2020 v 16:37 Brian Vogel napsal(a):

Jarek (and anyone else),

         What e-mail client are you using?   Are you opening your messages in their own windows for reading?

         I know the behavior you're talking about, but I don't think it's the actual subject being read multiple times, but because the subject is also the window title in a message window, that's getting read, followed by the actual subject.  In Outlook 2016, if I open a message sent to me in plain text, and I'll use "Keep Forgetting" as the subject, the window title is "Keep Forgetting - Message (Plain Text)", and the actual Subject entry is just Keep Forgetting.  NVDA starts by reading the window title (much like it would say File Explorer when you are in File Explorer or Mozilla Thunderbird if you were using that client and were in the main window) then immediately repeats itself with only the subject because that's the next item in the reading sequence for a message.  Getting the subject read twice is an artifact of how the window for reading same is set up.  If you're getting more than two times, then I'd have to look at the exact client and how the message is being read to determine if what's in the subject is somehow being presented somewhere that NVDA reads a third time.

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Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*/. . . the presumption of innocence, while essential in the legal realm, does not mean the elimination of common sense outside it.  The willing suspension of disbelief has its limits, or should./*

~ /Ruth Marcus/,  November 10, 2017, in /Washington Post/ article/, //Bannon is right: It’s no coincidence The Post broke the Moore story/ <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bannon-is-right-its-no-coincidence-the-post-broke-the-moore-story/2017/11/10/50e485c4-c662-11e7-84bc-5e285c7f4512_story.html>;

Hi Brian,

I am using Mozilla Thunderbird, because I can create a rules, while in Windows it isn't possible.


Jarek
Dne 04.08.2020 v 16:37 Brian Vogel napsal(a):

Jarek (and anyone else),

What e-mail client are you using? Are you opening your messages in their own windows for reading?

I know the behavior you're talking about, but I don't think it's the actual subject being read multiple times, but because the subject is also the window title in a message window, that's getting read, followed by the actual subject. In Outlook 2016, if I open a message sent to me in plain text, and I'll use "Keep Forgetting" as the subject, the window title is "Keep Forgetting - Message (Plain Text)", and the actual Subject entry is just Keep Forgetting. NVDA starts by reading the window title (much like it would say File Explorer when you are in File Explorer or Mozilla Thunderbird if you were using that client and were in the main window) then immediately repeats itself with only the subject because that's the next item in the reading sequence for a message. Getting the subject read twice is an artifact of how the window for reading same is set up. If you're getting more than two times, then I'd have to look at the exact client and how the message is being read to determine if what's in the subject is somehow being presented somewhere that NVDA reads a third time.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*/. . . the presumption of innocence, while essential in the legal realm, does not mean the elimination of common sense outside it. The willing suspension of disbelief has its limits, or should./*

~ /Ruth Marcus/, November 10, 2017, in /Washington Post/ article/, //Bannon is right: It’s no coincidence The Post broke the Moore story/ <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bannon-is-right-its-no-coincidence-the-post-broke-the-moore-story/2017/11/10/50e485c4-c662-11e7-84bc-5e285c7f4512_story.html>;

I'm not sure what you want to do.  Do you use read to end when reading mail or just down arrow through the entire message?  You can use the read to end command to both stop unwanted repetition and begin reading the message body.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Jarek.Krcmar
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 9:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda and multiple reading of subjects in E-mails

Hi Gene and other.

Thank you for the answer.

So I use down arrow for stopping the multiple reading of subjects.


Jarek

Dne 03.08.2020 v 9:08 Jarek Krcmar napsal(a):

Hello all,

I have a long time a problem with Nvda.

It several times reads subjects in Emails.

Is possible to set Nvda, for reading of a subject once only?

Sincerely

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:04 AM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:

I am using Mozilla Thunderbird, because I can create a rules, while in Windows it isn't possible.

What isn't possible?   And how would the creation of rules be relevant to anything?

It's impossible to give accurate advice with moving goal posts and the introduction of unrelated variables.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

. . . the presumption of innocence, while essential in the legal realm, does not mean the elimination of common sense outside it.  The willing suspension of disbelief has its limits, or should.

 

    ~ Ruth Marcus,  November 10, 2017, in Washington Post article, Bannon is right: It’s no coincidence The Post broke the Moore story