Hi,
Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
Thanks
Chris

Soon...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:

Hi,
Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
Thanks
Chris

This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.

do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is actually coming.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote:

That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> escribió:

> Soon...
>
> Regards,
>
> Rui Fontes
> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>
>
> Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
>> Hi,
>> Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>
>
>

--

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do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is actually coming.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote:

That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> escribió:

> Soon...
>
> Regards,
>
> Rui Fontes
> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>
>
> Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
>> Hi,
>> Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>
>
>

--

Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

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My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility.

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Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources. These are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better said, other company, I don't know mor than one.

Regards.

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O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:

This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.

do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is actually coming.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote:

That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> escribió:

> Soon...
>
> Regards,
>
> Rui Fontes
> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>
>
> Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
>> Hi,
>> Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>
>
>

--

Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
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you, and have a great day!

At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way.
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es <mailto:ivan.novegil@nvda.es>> wrote:
Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know
what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine
resources. These are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with
other companies. Better said, other company, I don't know mor than one.
Regards.
Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editor
ivan.novegil@nvda.es <mailto:ivan.novegil@nvda.es>
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O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:

This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.

do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about
this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I
would advise anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the
one not by Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I
think atguys sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company
who keeps on misleading its customers in the way as has been done
about this product and on this list. If it comes out I will
apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates
that this product is actually coming.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio
<gera1027@gmail.com <mailto:gera1027@gmail.com>> wrote:

That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially
looking forward to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll
English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for
differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure
reading…). Keep us posted!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes
<rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com
<mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>> escribió:

> Soon...
>
> Regards,
>
> Rui Fontes
> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>
>
> Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
>> Hi,
>> Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie,
Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>
>
>



--
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

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all tools available to me.
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100% personal responsibility.

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--
Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility.
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you, and have a great day!

Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what they
are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources. These
are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better
said, other company, I don't know mor than one.


Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es

Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
- www.NVDA.es

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O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:

This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.

do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this
coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise
anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his
company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would
recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in
the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes
out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates
that this product is actually coming.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com>
wrote:

That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward
to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too,
expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations
(daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
escribió:

Soon...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:

Hi,
Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver,

Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?

Thanks
Chris

--

Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

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addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
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(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia


At least other companies add features like voices that users have been
requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is
coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to
say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing
will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long
time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it
happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this
product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s
really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let
users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue
to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s
not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered.
And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but
we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is.
Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple
of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still
reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You
took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product.
User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this
update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them
an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing
the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been
unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t
recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being
written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and
my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way.
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote:

Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what they
are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources. These
are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better
said, other company, I don't know mor than one.


Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es

Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
- www.NVDA.es

Usuario do NVDA en galego

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O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:

This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.

do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this
coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise
anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his
company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would
recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in
the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes
out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates
that this product is actually coming.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com>
wrote:

That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward
to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too,
expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations
(daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
escribió:

Soon...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:

Hi,
Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan,

Oliver,
Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?

Thanks
Chris

--

Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!

At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way.

Hello all,

As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to

complaint about this synthesiser.

I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with

Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.

I had no bad experience with them.

So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.

Best regards

Sylvie

Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :

> Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that

> you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the

> rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no evidence

> of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really.

> Brian

> 

> bglists@...

> Sent via blueyonder.

> Please address personal email to:-

> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM

> Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

> 

> 

> At least other companies add features like voices that users have been

> requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is

> coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would

> like to

> say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are

> discussing

> will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long

> time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it

> happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this

> product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s

> really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let

> users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet.

> Continue

> to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s

> not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered.

> And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update,

> but

> we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is.

> Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple

> of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still

> reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You

> took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product.

> User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this

> update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising

> them

> an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much

> purchasing

> the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been

> unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t

> recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being

> written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst,

> and

> my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way.

> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@...> wrote:

> 

>> Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what

>> they

>> are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources.

>> These

>> are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better

>> said, other company, I don't know mor than one.

>> 

>> 

>> Regards.

>> 

>> Iván Novegil Cancelas

>> Editorivan.novegil@...

>> 

>> Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es

>> - www.NVDA.es

>> 

>> Usuario do NVDA en galego

>> 

>> ***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter

>> información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta

>> mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do

>> destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe

>> por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***

>> 

>> O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:

>> 

>> This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.

>> 

>> do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this

>> coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise

>> anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie

>> or his

>> company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I

>> would

>> recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in

>> the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it

>> comes

>> out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far

>> indicates

>> that this product is actually coming.

>> 

>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...>

>> wrote:

>> 

>>> That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward

>>> to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too,

>>> expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different

>>> situations

>>> (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!

>>> 

>>> Gera

>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

>>> 

>>> El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes

>>> <rui.fontes@...>

>>> escribió:

>>> 

>>> > Soon...

>>> >

>>> > Regards,

>>> >

>>> > Rui Fontes

>>> > Tiflotecnia, Lda.

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:

>>> >> Hi,

>>> >> Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan,

>>> Oliver,

>>> Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?

>>> >> Thanks

>>> >> Chris

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> --

>> Cordially,

>> 

>> Nimer Jaber

>> 

>> My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all

>> tools

>> available to me.

>> My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%

>> personal responsibility.

>> 

>> The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was

>> addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,

>> please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this

>> correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents

>> by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or

>> criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding

>> attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is

>> up to you. Thanks.

>> 

>> Registered Linux User 529141.

>> http://counter.li.org/

>> 

>> To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP

>> and above, please click here:

>> http://www.nvda-project.org

>> 

>> You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

>> 

>> To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at

>> (218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank

>> you, and have a great day!

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

Wait? We’ve waited long enough!

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

Hello all,

As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to

complaint about this synthesiser.

I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with

Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.

I had no bad experience with them.

So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.

Best regards

Sylvie

Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :

Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that

you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the

rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no evidence

of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really.

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal email to:-

briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'

in the display name field.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM

Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

At least other companies add features like voices that users have been

requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is

coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would

like to

say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are

discussing

will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a

long

time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And

until it

happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this

product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s

really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list

and let

users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet.

Continue

to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when

it’s

not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered.

And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update,

but

we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is.

Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a

couple

of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still

reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s

ridiculous. You

took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product.

User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this

update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising

them

an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much

purchasing

the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has

been

unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t

recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being

written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst,

and

my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way.

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote:

Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what

they

are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources.

These

are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better

said, other company, I don't know mor than one.

Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas

Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es

Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es

- www.NVDA.es

Usuario do NVDA en galego

***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter

información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta

mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do

destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe

por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***

O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:

This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.

do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this

coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would

advise

anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie

or his

company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I

would

recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its

customers in

the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it

comes

out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far

indicates

that this product is actually coming.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com>

wrote:

That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking

forward

to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too,

expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different

situations

(daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes

<rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>

escribió:

Soon...

Regards,

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:

Hi,

Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan,

Oliver,

Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?

Thanks

Chris

--

Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all

tools

available to me.

My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%

personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was

addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,

please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this

correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents

by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or

criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding

attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is

up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.

http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP

and above, please click here:

http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at

(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank

you, and have a great day!

Wait? We’ve waited long enough!

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

Hello all,

As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to

complaint about this synthesiser.

I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with

Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.

I had no bad experience with them.

So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.

Best regards

Sylvie

Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :

Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that

you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the

rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no
evidence

of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really.

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal email to:-

briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'

in the display name field.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber"
<nimerjaber1@gmail.com>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM

Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

At least other companies add features like voices that users have
been

requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an
update is

coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would

like to

say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are

discussing

will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a

long

time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And

until it

happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that
this

product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it.
There’s

really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list

and let

users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet.

Continue

to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when

it’s

not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered.

And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the
update,

but

we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is.

Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a

couple

of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still

reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s

ridiculous. You

took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product.

User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do
this

update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of
promising

them

an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much

purchasing

the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has

been

unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t

recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is
being

written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this
listst,

and

my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way.

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote:

Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know
what

they

are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources.

These

are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies.
Better

said, other company, I don't know mor than one.

Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas

Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es

Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es

- www.NVDA.es

Usuario do NVDA en galego

***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter

información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta

mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do

destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta
mensaxe

por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***

O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:

This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.

do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about
this

coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would

advise

anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by
Ruie

or his

company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that
I

would

recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its

customers in

the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it

comes

out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far

indicates

that this product is actually coming.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio
<gera1027@gmail.com>

wrote:

That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking

forward

to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices
too,

expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different

situations

(daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes

<rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>

escribió:

Soon...

Regards,

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:

Hi,

Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan,

Oliver,

Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?

Thanks

Chris

--

Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with
all

tools

available to me.

My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and
100%

personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was

addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,

please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this

correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its
contents

by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil
or

criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding

attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine
is

up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.

http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP

and above, please click here:

http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at

(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly.
Thank

you, and have a great day!

HI.
I'm also curious. I started using nVDA with the Microsoft Core voices, but I would rather like to switch to Vocalizer. With all the back-and-forth going on here -- what add-on should I actaully acquire/pay for?
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: December 21, 2017 1:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
I'm curious, we have two other ones now, or versions of the same thing, the SAPI5 version and the combined NVDA addon. Do either of those have these new voices or whatever everybody wants?
On 12/21/2017 12:03, Lino Morales wrote:

Wait? We’ve waited long enough!

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

Hello all,

As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to

complaint about this synthesiser.

I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with

Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.

I had no bad experience with them.

So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.

Best regards

Sylvie

Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :

Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that

you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the

rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no
evidence

of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really.

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal email to:-

briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'

in the display name field.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber"
<nimerjaber1@gmail.com>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM

Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

At least other companies add features like voices that users have
been

requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an
update is

coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would

like to

say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are

discussing

will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a

long

time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And

until it

happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that
this

product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it.
There’s

really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list

and let

users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet.

Continue

to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when

it’s

not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered.

And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the
update,

but

we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is.

Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a

couple

of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still

reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s

ridiculous. You

took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product.

User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do
this

update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of
promising

them

an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much

purchasing

the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has

been

unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t

recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is
being

written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this
listst,

and

my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way.

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote:

Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know
what

they

are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources.

These

are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies.
Better

said, other company, I don't know mor than one.

Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas

Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es

Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es

- www.NVDA.es

Usuario do NVDA en galego

***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter

información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta

mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do

destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta
mensaxe

por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***

O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:

This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.

do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about
this

coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would

advise

anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by
Ruie

or his

company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that
I

would

recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its

customers in

the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it

comes

out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far

indicates

that this product is actually coming.

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio
<gera1027@gmail.com>

wrote:

That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking

forward

to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices
too,

expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different

situations

(daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes

<rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>

escribió:

Soon...

Regards,

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:

Hi,

Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan,

Oliver,

Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?

Thanks

Chris

--

Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with
all

tools

available to me.

My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and
100%

personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was

addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,

please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this

correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its
contents

by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil
or

criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding

attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine
is

up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.

http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP

and above, please click here:

http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at

(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly.
Thank

you, and have a great day!

HI.

I'm also curious. I started using nVDA with the Microsoft Core voices, but I would rather like to switch to Vocalizer. With all the back-and-forth going on here -- what add-on should I actaully acquire/pay for?



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: December 21, 2017 1:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

I'm curious, we have two other ones now, or versions of the same thing, the SAPI5 version and the combined NVDA addon. Do either of those have these new voices or whatever everybody wants?


On 12/21/2017 12:03, Lino Morales wrote:

Wait? We’ve waited long enough!

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

Hello all,

As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to

complaint about this synthesiser.

I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with

Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.

I had no bad experience with them.

So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.

Best regards

Sylvie

Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :

Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that
you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the
rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no
evidence
of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber"
<nimerjaber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
At least other companies add features like voices that users have
been
requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an
update is
coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would
like to
say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are
discussing
will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a

long

time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And

until it

happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that
this
product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it.
There’s
really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list

and let

users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet.
Continue
to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when

it’s

not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered.
And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the
update,
but
we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is.
Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a

couple

of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still
reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s

ridiculous. You

took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product.
User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do
this
update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of
promising
them
an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much
purchasing
the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has

been

unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t
recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is
being
written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this
listst,
and
my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way.
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote:

Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know
what
they
are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources.
These
are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies.
Better
said, other company, I don't know mor than one.
Regards.
Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es
Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
- www.NVDA.es
Usuario do NVDA en galego
***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter
información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta
mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do
destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta
mensaxe
por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***
O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:
This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.
do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about
this
coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would

advise

anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by
Ruie
or his
company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that
I
would
recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its

customers in

the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it
comes
out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far
indicates
that this product is actually coming.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio
<gera1027@gmail.com>
wrote:

That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking

forward

to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices
too,
expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different
situations
(daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes
<rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
escribió:

Soon...
Regards,
Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:

Hi,
Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan,

Oliver,
Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?

Thanks
Chris

--

Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with
all
tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and
100%
personal responsibility.
The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its
contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil
or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine
is
up to you. Thanks.
Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/
To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org
You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.
To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly.
Thank
you, and have a great day!

HI.

I'm also curious. I started using nVDA with the Microsoft Core voices, but I would rather like to switch to Vocalizer. With all the back-and-forth going on here -- what add-on should I actaully acquire/pay for?



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
John Isige
Sent: December 21, 2017 1:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

I'm curious, we have two other ones now, or versions of the same thing, the SAPI5 version and the combined NVDA addon. Do either of those have these new voices or whatever everybody wants?


On 12/21/2017 12:03, Lino Morales wrote:

Wait? We’ve waited long enough!

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

Hello all,

As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have
to

complaint about this synthesiser.

I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with

Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.

I had no bad experience with them.

So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.

Best regards

Sylvie

Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :

Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that
you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the
rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no
evidence of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber"
<nimerjaber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia At least other
companies add features like voices that users have been requesting.
And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming
for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to
say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are
discussing will get updated in the features that users have been
promised for a

long

time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And

until it

happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that
this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid
it.
There’s
really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list

and let

users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet.
Continue
to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when

it’s

not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered.
And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the
update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as
long as it is.
Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a

couple

of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still
reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s

ridiculous. You

took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product.
User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do
this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of
promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret
very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The
level of support has

been

unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t
recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is
being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this
listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access
in any way.
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote:

Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know
what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine
resources.
These
are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies.
Better
said, other company, I don't know mor than one.
Regards.
Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es
Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
- www.NVDA.es
Usuario do NVDA en galego
***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter
información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta
mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do
destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta
mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a
mensaxe.*** O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:
This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.
do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about
this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I
would

advise

anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by
Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys
sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on
misleading its

customers in

the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it
comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so
far indicates that this product is actually coming.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio
<gera1027@gmail.com>
wrote:

That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking

forward

to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices
too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different
situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06
a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
escribió:

Soon...
Regards,
Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:

Hi,
Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan,

Oliver,
Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?

Thanks
Chris

--

Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with
all tools available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and
100% personal responsibility.
The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its
contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result
in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all
corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security
of your machine is up to you. Thanks.
Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/
To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org
You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.
To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly.
Thank
you, and have a great day!

Thanks John. Makes sense. I don't need a big variety of voices to play with or anything like that. I'm mostly ok with just using Daniel all of the time, in fact. Sounds like going to the SAPI version would be quite sensible. I found two different vocalizer add-ons from the NVDA synths page (I think ... this was a while back actually) and as far as I know neither of them mention SAPI. Should I be looking in a different place?
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: December 21, 2017 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
I have Rui's addon and have no issues with it, accept I stupidly forgot to unlicense it when I had to reset Windows so I lost a license. I guess if there are new voices and stuff that would be a cool update, but I also get having to update the addon for NVDA and that taking time. I mostly use SAPI Eloquence nowadays but I still use Vocalizer, especially if I'm dealing with other languages. I haven't tried either the SAPI vocalizer or the combined Vocalizer and Eloquence addon, since I already have them both, I don't see much sense in paying for them again. If I did I'd probably just get SAPI Vocalizer to go with SAPI Eloquence, because I'd be able to use it in more situations. I guess I haven't kept track of what's happening with Vocalizer voices so I could get all angry that I don' have an update yet, so it works fine for me.
On 12/21/2017 12:10, JM Casey wrote:

HI.

I'm also curious. I started using nVDA with the Microsoft Core voices, but I would rather like to switch to Vocalizer. With all the back-and-forth going on here -- what add-on should I actaully acquire/pay for?



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
John Isige
Sent: December 21, 2017 1:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

I'm curious, we have two other ones now, or versions of the same thing, the SAPI5 version and the combined NVDA addon. Do either of those have these new voices or whatever everybody wants?


On 12/21/2017 12:03, Lino Morales wrote:

Wait? We’ve waited long enough!

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

Hello all,

As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have
to

complaint about this synthesiser.

I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with

Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.

I had no bad experience with them.

So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.

Best regards

Sylvie

Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :

Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that
you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the
rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no
evidence of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber"
<nimerjaber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia At least other
companies add features like voices that users have been requesting.
And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming
for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to
say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are
discussing will get updated in the features that users have been
promised for a

long

time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And

until it

happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that
this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid
it.
There’s
really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list

and let

users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet.
Continue
to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when

it’s

not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered.
And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the
update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as
long as it is.
Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a

couple

of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still
reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s

ridiculous. You

took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product.
User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do
this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of
promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret
very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The
level of support has

been

unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t
recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is
being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this
listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access
in any way.
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote:

Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know
what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine
resources.
These
are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies.
Better
said, other company, I don't know mor than one.
Regards.
Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es
Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
- www.NVDA.es
Usuario do NVDA en galego
***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter
información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta
mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do
destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta
mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a
mensaxe.*** O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:
This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.
do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about
this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I
would

advise

anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by
Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys
sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on
misleading its

customers in

the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it
comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so
far indicates that this product is actually coming.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio
<gera1027@gmail.com>
wrote:

That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking

forward

to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices
too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different
situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06
a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
escribió:

Soon...
Regards,
Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:

Hi,
Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan,

Oliver,
Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?

Thanks
Chris

--

Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with
all tools available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and
100% personal responsibility.
The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its
contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result
in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all
corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security
of your machine is up to you. Thanks.
Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/
To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org
You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.
To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly.
Thank
you, and have a great day!

Thanks John. Makes sense. I don't need a big variety of voices to play with or anything like that. I'm mostly ok with just using Daniel all of the time, in fact. Sounds like going to the SAPI version would be quite sensible. I found two different vocalizer add-ons from the NVDA synths page (I think ... this was a while back actually) and as far as I know neither of them mention SAPI. Should I be looking in a different place?



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: December 21, 2017 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

I have Rui's addon and have no issues with it, accept I stupidly forgot to unlicense it when I had to reset Windows so I lost a license. I guess if there are new voices and stuff that would be a cool update, but I also get having to update the addon for NVDA and that taking time. I mostly use SAPI Eloquence nowadays but I still use Vocalizer, especially if I'm dealing with other languages. I haven't tried either the SAPI vocalizer or the combined Vocalizer and Eloquence addon, since I already have them both, I don't see much sense in paying for them again. If I did I'd probably just get SAPI Vocalizer to go with SAPI Eloquence, because I'd be able to use it in more situations. I guess I haven't kept track of what's happening with Vocalizer voices so I could get all angry that I don' have an update yet, so it works fine for me.


On 12/21/2017 12:10, JM Casey wrote:

HI.

I'm also curious. I started using nVDA with the Microsoft Core voices, but I would rather like to switch to Vocalizer. With all the back-and-forth going on here -- what add-on should I actaully acquire/pay for?



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
John Isige
Sent: December 21, 2017 1:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

I'm curious, we have two other ones now, or versions of the same thing, the SAPI5 version and the combined NVDA addon. Do either of those have these new voices or whatever everybody wants?


On 12/21/2017 12:03, Lino Morales wrote:

Wait? We’ve waited long enough!

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia

Hello all,

As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have
to

complaint about this synthesiser.

I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with

Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.

I had no bad experience with them.

So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.

Best regards

Sylvie

Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :

Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that
you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the
rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no
evidence of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber"
<nimerjaber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia At least other
companies add features like voices that users have been requesting.
And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming
for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to
say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are
discussing will get updated in the features that users have been
promised for a

long

time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And

until it

happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that
this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid
it.
There’s
really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list

and let

users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet.
Continue
to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when

it’s

not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered.
And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the
update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as
long as it is.
Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a

couple

of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still
reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s

ridiculous. You

took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product.
User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do
this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of
promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret
very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The
level of support has

been

unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t
recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is
being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this
listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access
in any way.
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote:

Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know
what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine
resources.
These
are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies.
Better
said, other company, I don't know mor than one.
Regards.
Iván Novegil Cancelas
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do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about
this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I
would

advise

anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by
Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys
sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on
misleading its

customers in

the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it
comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so
far indicates that this product is actually coming.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio
<gera1027@gmail.com>
wrote:

That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking

forward

to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices
too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different
situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06
a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
escribió:

Soon...
Regards,
Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:

Hi,
Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan,

Oliver,
Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?

Thanks
Chris

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