Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
Hi, Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia? Thanks Chris
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Soon...
Regards,
Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
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Hi, Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia? Thanks Chris
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That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!
Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
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El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> escribió: Soon...
Regards,
Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
Hi, Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia? Thanks Chris
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do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is actually coming.
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On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio < gera1027@...> wrote: That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> escribió:
> Soon...
>
> Regards,
>
> Rui Fontes
> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>
>
> Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
>> Hi,
>> Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>
>
>
--
Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me. My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility.
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I 100000 percent agree with you Nimir. Who can you buy the other
Vocalizer ones you mention here?
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On 12/20/2017 10:22 PM, Nimer Jaber
wrote:
This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.
do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing
about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years
actually. I would advise anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer
to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is
another out there that I think atguys sells that I would
recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its
customers in the way as has been done about this product and
on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh
message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is
actually coming.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio
< gera1027@...>
wrote:
That’ll be
something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward
to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US.
Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices
in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us
posted!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>
escribió:
> Soon...
>
> Regards,
>
> Rui Fontes
> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>
>
> Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
>> Hi,
>> Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices
Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from
Tifloteknia?
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>
>
>
--
Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around
me with all tools available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty,
excellence, and 100% personal responsibility.
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recipient to whom it was
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recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies
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Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know
what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine
resources. These are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with
other companies. Better said, other company, I don't know mor than
one.
Regards.
Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editor
ivan.novegil@...
Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
- www.NVDA.es
Usuario do NVDA en galego
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O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber
escribiu:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.
do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing
about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years
actually. I would advise anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer
to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is
another out there that I think atguys sells that I would
recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its
customers in the way as has been done about this product and
on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh
message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is
actually coming.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio
< gera1027@...>
wrote:
That’ll be
something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward
to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US.
Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices
in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us
posted!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>
escribió:
> Soon...
>
> Regards,
>
> Rui Fontes
> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>
>
> Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
>> Hi,
>> Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices
Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from
Tifloteknia?
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>
>
>
--
Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around
me with all tools available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty,
excellence, and 100% personal responsibility.
The message above is intended for the
recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended
recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies
of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email
or its contents
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corresponding
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your machine is
up to you. Thanks.
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To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for
windows XP
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you, and have a great day!
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At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know
what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine
resources. These are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with
other companies. Better said, other company, I don't know mor than
one.
Regards.
Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editor
ivan.novegil@...
Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
- www.NVDA.es
Usuario do NVDA en galego
***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***
O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber
escribiu:
This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.
do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing
about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years
actually. I would advise anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer
to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is
another out there that I think atguys sells that I would
recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its
customers in the way as has been done about this product and
on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh
message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is
actually coming.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio
< gera1027@...>
wrote:
That’ll be
something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward
to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US.
Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices
in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us
posted!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>
escribió:
> Soon...
>
> Regards,
>
> Rui Fontes
> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>
>
> Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
>> Hi,
>> Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices
Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from
Tifloteknia?
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>
>
>
--
Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around
me with all tools available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty,
excellence, and 100% personal responsibility.
The message above is intended for the
recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended
recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies
of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email
or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may
result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all
corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of
your machine is
up to you. Thanks.
Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/
To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for
windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org
You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest
technology news.
To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may
call me at (218-606-0475) and I will do my best to
respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!
--
Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me. My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility.
The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks. Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.orgYou can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank you, and have a great day!
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Nimer, the product is almost ready to be released...
The major part missing is adaptation of the addons to all the changes in NVDA present and near future... We want our addons compatible with all versions of NVDA, at least at 2018.1...
Best regards,
Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 09:23 de 21/12/2017, Nimer Jaber escreveu:
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At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way. On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es <mailto:ivan.novegil@nvda.es>> wrote: Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources. These are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better said, other company, I don't know mor than one. Regards. Iván Novegil Cancelas Editor ivan.novegil@nvda.es <mailto:ivan.novegil@nvda.es> Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es -www.NVDA.es <http://www.NVDA.es> Usuario do NVDA en galego ***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.*** O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:
This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.
do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is actually coming.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com <mailto:gera1027@gmail.com>> wrote:
That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!
Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com <mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>> escribió:
> Soon... > > Regards, > > Rui Fontes > Tiflotecnia, Lda. > > > Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu: >> Hi, >> Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia? >> Thanks >> Chris > > >
-- Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me. My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility.
The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks.
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To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.org
You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.
To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank you, and have a great day! -- Cordially, Nimer Jaber My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me. My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility. The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks. Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/ To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.org You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank you, and have a great day!
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way. On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote: Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources. These are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better said, other company, I don't know mor than one.
Regards.
Iván Novegil Cancelas Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es
Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es - www.NVDA.es
Usuario do NVDA en galego
***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***
O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:
This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.
do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is actually coming.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com> wrote:
That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!
Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> escribió:
Soon...
Regards,
Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
Hi, Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
Thanks Chris
-- Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me. My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility.
The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks.
Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/
To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.org
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Hello all,
As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to complaint about this synthesiser.
I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.
I had no bad experience with them.
So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.
Best regards
Sylvie
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Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit : Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really. Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way. On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote:
Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources. These are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better said, other company, I don't know mor than one.
Regards.
Iván Novegil Cancelas Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es
Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es - www.NVDA.es
Usuario do NVDA en galego
***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***
O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:
This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.
do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is actually coming.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com> wrote:
That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!
Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> escribió:
Soon...
Regards,
Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
Hi, Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
Thanks Chris
-- Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
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I totally agree with you sir. So come on Ruy deliver! I’ve thought buying your product, but I certainly won’t consider it now. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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From: Nimer JaberSent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 4:24 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way. Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources. These are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better said, other company, I don't know mor than one. Regards. Iván Novegil Cancelas Editor ivan.novegil@... Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es - www.NVDA.es Usuario do NVDA en galego ***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.*** O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu: This message is sent outside of my moderator's role. do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is actually coming. On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote: That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!
Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> escribió:
> Soon... > > Regards, > > Rui Fontes > Tiflotecnia, Lda. > > > Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu: >> Hi, >> Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia? >> Thanks >> Chris > > >
Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me. My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility. The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks.
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Nimer Jaber
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Wait? We’ve waited long enough! Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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From: Sylvie DuchateauSent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia Hello all, As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to complaint about this synthesiser. I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem. I had no bad experience with them. So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens. Best regards Sylvie Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit : > Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that > you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the > rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no evidence > of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM > Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia > > > At least other companies add features like voices that users have been > requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is > coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would > like to > say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are > discussing > will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long > time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it > happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this > product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s > really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let > users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. > Continue > to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s > not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. > And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, > but > we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. > Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple > of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still > reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You > took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. > User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this > update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising > them > an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much > purchasing > the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been > unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t > recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being > written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, > and > my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way. > On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@...> wrote: > >> Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what >> they >> are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources. >> These >> are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better >> said, other company, I don't know mor than one. >> >> >> Regards. >> >> Iván Novegil Cancelas >> Editorivan.novegil@... >> >> Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es >> - www.NVDA.es >> >> Usuario do NVDA en galego >> >> ***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter >> información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta >> mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do >> destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe >> por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.*** >> >> O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu: >> >> This message is sent outside of my moderator's role. >> >> do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this >> coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise >> anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie >> or his >> company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I >> would >> recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in >> the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it >> comes >> out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far >> indicates >> that this product is actually coming. >> >> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> >> wrote: >> >>> That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward >>> to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, >>> expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different >>> situations >>> (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted! >>> >>> Gera >>> Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel >>> >>> El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes >>> <rui.fontes@...> >>> escribió: >>> >>> > Soon... >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > >>> > Rui Fontes >>> > Tiflotecnia, Lda. >>> > >>> > >>> > Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu: >>> >> Hi, >>> >> Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, >>> Oliver, >>> Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia? >>> >> Thanks >>> >> Chris >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >> Cordially, >> >> Nimer Jaber >> >> My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all >> tools >> available to me. >> My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% >> personal responsibility. >> >> The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was >> addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, >> please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this >> correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents >> by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or >> criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding >> attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is >> up to you. Thanks. >> >> Registered Linux User 529141. >> http://counter.li.org/ >> >> To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP >> and above, please click here: >> http://www.nvda-project.org >> >> You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. >> >> To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at >> (218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank >> you, and have a great day! >> >> >> >>
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I'm curious, we have two other ones now, or versions of the same thing, the SAPI5 version and the combined NVDA addon. Do either of those have these new voices or whatever everybody wants?
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On 12/21/2017 12:03, Lino Morales wrote: Wait? We’ve waited long enough!
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net> *Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
Hello all,
As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to
complaint about this synthesiser.
I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with
Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.
I had no bad experience with them.
So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.
Best regards
Sylvie
Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :
Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long
time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it
happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let
users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s
not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple
of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You
took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been
unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way. On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote: Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what
they
are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources.
These
are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better
said, other company, I don't know mor than one.
Regards.
Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es
Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
- www.NVDA.es
Usuario do NVDA en galego
***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter
información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta
mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do
destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe
por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***
O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:
This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.
do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this
coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise
anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie
or his
company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I
would
recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in
the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it
comes
out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far
indicates
that this product is actually coming.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com>
wrote:
That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking
forward
to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too,
expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different
situations
(daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes
<rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
escribió:
Soon...
Regards,
Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
Hi,
Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan,
Oliver,
Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
Thanks
Chris
--
Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all
tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.
The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.
Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/
To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org
You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.
To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!
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JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
HI.
I'm also curious. I started using nVDA with the Microsoft Core voices, but I would rather like to switch to Vocalizer. With all the back-and-forth going on here -- what add-on should I actaully acquire/pay for?
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige Sent: December 21, 2017 1:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia I'm curious, we have two other ones now, or versions of the same thing, the SAPI5 version and the combined NVDA addon. Do either of those have these new voices or whatever everybody wants? On 12/21/2017 12:03, Lino Morales wrote: Wait? We’ve waited long enough!
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net> *Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
Hello all,
As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to
complaint about this synthesiser.
I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with
Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.
I had no bad experience with them.
So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.
Best regards
Sylvie
Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :
Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long
time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it
happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let
users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s
not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple
of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You
took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been
unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way. On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote: Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what
they
are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources.
These
are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better
said, other company, I don't know mor than one.
Regards.
Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es
Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
- www.NVDA.es
Usuario do NVDA en galego
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por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***
O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:
This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.
do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this
coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise
anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie
or his
company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I
would
recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in
the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it
comes
out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far
indicates
that this product is actually coming.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com>
wrote:
That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking
forward
to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too,
expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different
situations
(daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes
<rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
escribió:
Soon...
Regards,
Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
Hi,
Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan,
Oliver,
Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
Thanks
Chris
--
Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all
tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.
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addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
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Our strongs are the better technical support and better automatic language switcher...
You, as a costumer, choose what you want to buy...
Best regards,
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Às 18:10 de 21/12/2017, JM Casey escreveu:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
HI. I'm also curious. I started using nVDA with the Microsoft Core voices, but I would rather like to switch to Vocalizer. With all the back-and-forth going on here -- what add-on should I actaully acquire/pay for? -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige Sent: December 21, 2017 1:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia I'm curious, we have two other ones now, or versions of the same thing, the SAPI5 version and the combined NVDA addon. Do either of those have these new voices or whatever everybody wants? On 12/21/2017 12:03, Lino Morales wrote:
Wait? We’ve waited long enough!
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net> *Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
Hello all,
As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to
complaint about this synthesiser.
I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with
Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.
I had no bad experience with them.
So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.
Best regards
Sylvie
Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :
Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long
time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it
happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let
users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s
not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple
of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You
took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been
unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way. On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote: Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what
they
are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources.
These
are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better
said, other company, I don't know mor than one.
Regards.
Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es
Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
- www.NVDA.es
Usuario do NVDA en galego
***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter
información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta
mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do
destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe
por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***
O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu:
This message is sent outside of my moderator's role.
do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this
coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise
anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie
or his
company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I
would
recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in
the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it
comes
out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far
indicates
that this product is actually coming.
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com>
wrote:
That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking
forward
to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too,
expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different
situations
(daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes
<rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
escribió:
Soon...
Regards,
Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
Hi,
Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan,
Oliver,
Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
Thanks
Chris
--
Cordially,
Nimer Jaber
My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all
tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.
The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.
Registered Linux User 529141.
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You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.
To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!
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I have Rui's addon and have no issues with it, accept I stupidly forgot to unlicense it when I had to reset Windows so I lost a license. I guess if there are new voices and stuff that would be a cool update, but I also get having to update the addon for NVDA and that taking time. I mostly use SAPI Eloquence nowadays but I still use Vocalizer, especially if I'm dealing with other languages. I haven't tried either the SAPI vocalizer or the combined Vocalizer and Eloquence addon, since I already have them both, I don't see much sense in paying for them again. If I did I'd probably just get SAPI Vocalizer to go with SAPI Eloquence, because I'd be able to use it in more situations. I guess I haven't kept track of what's happening with Vocalizer voices so I could get all angry that I don' have an update yet, so it works fine for me.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 12/21/2017 12:10, JM Casey wrote: HI.
I'm also curious. I started using nVDA with the Microsoft Core voices, but I would rather like to switch to Vocalizer. With all the back-and-forth going on here -- what add-on should I actaully acquire/pay for?
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige Sent: December 21, 2017 1:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
I'm curious, we have two other ones now, or versions of the same thing, the SAPI5 version and the combined NVDA addon. Do either of those have these new voices or whatever everybody wants?
On 12/21/2017 12:03, Lino Morales wrote:
Wait? We’ve waited long enough!
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net> *Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
Hello all,
As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to
complaint about this synthesiser.
I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with
Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.
I had no bad experience with them.
So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.
Best regards
Sylvie
Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :
Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long
time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it
happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let
users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s
not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple
of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You
took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been
unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way. On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote:
Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources. These are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better said, other company, I don't know mor than one. Regards. Iván Novegil Cancelas Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es - www.NVDA.es Usuario do NVDA en galego ***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.*** O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu: This message is sent outside of my moderator's role. do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise
anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in
the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is actually coming. On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com> wrote:
That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward
to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted! Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> escribió:
Soon... Regards, Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda. Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
Hi, Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
Thanks Chris -- Cordially, Nimer Jaber My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me. My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility. The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks. Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/ To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.org You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank you, and have a great day!
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JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Thanks John. Makes sense. I don't need a big variety of voices to play with or anything like that. I'm mostly ok with just using Daniel all of the time, in fact. Sounds like going to the SAPI version would be quite sensible. I found two different vocalizer add-ons from the NVDA synths page (I think ... this was a while back actually) and as far as I know neither of them mention SAPI. Should I be looking in a different place?
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige Sent: December 21, 2017 1:53 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia I have Rui's addon and have no issues with it, accept I stupidly forgot to unlicense it when I had to reset Windows so I lost a license. I guess if there are new voices and stuff that would be a cool update, but I also get having to update the addon for NVDA and that taking time. I mostly use SAPI Eloquence nowadays but I still use Vocalizer, especially if I'm dealing with other languages. I haven't tried either the SAPI vocalizer or the combined Vocalizer and Eloquence addon, since I already have them both, I don't see much sense in paying for them again. If I did I'd probably just get SAPI Vocalizer to go with SAPI Eloquence, because I'd be able to use it in more situations. I guess I haven't kept track of what's happening with Vocalizer voices so I could get all angry that I don' have an update yet, so it works fine for me. On 12/21/2017 12:10, JM Casey wrote: HI.
I'm also curious. I started using nVDA with the Microsoft Core voices, but I would rather like to switch to Vocalizer. With all the back-and-forth going on here -- what add-on should I actaully acquire/pay for?
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige Sent: December 21, 2017 1:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
I'm curious, we have two other ones now, or versions of the same thing, the SAPI5 version and the combined NVDA addon. Do either of those have these new voices or whatever everybody wants?
On 12/21/2017 12:03, Lino Morales wrote:
Wait? We’ve waited long enough!
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net> *Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
Hello all,
As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to
complaint about this synthesiser.
I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with
Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.
I had no bad experience with them.
So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.
Best regards
Sylvie
Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :
Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long
time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it
happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let
users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s
not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple
of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You
took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been
unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way. On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote:
Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources. These are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better said, other company, I don't know mor than one. Regards. Iván Novegil Cancelas Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es - www.NVDA.es Usuario do NVDA en galego ***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.*** O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu: This message is sent outside of my moderator's role. do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise
anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in
the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is actually coming. On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com> wrote:
That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward
to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted! Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> escribió:
Soon... Regards, Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda. Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
Hi, Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
Thanks Chris -- Cordially, Nimer Jaber My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me. My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility. The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks. Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/ To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.org You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank you, and have a great day!
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Thanks John. Makes sense. I don't need a big variety of voices to play with or anything like that. I'm mostly ok with just using Daniel all of the time, in fact. Sounds like going to the SAPI version would be quite sensible. I found two different vocalizer add-ons from the NVDA synths page (I think ... this was a while back actually) and as far as I know neither of them mention SAPI. Should I be looking in a different place? -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige Sent: December 21, 2017 1:53 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia I have Rui's addon and have no issues with it, accept I stupidly forgot to unlicense it when I had to reset Windows so I lost a license. I guess if there are new voices and stuff that would be a cool update, but I also get having to update the addon for NVDA and that taking time. I mostly use SAPI Eloquence nowadays but I still use Vocalizer, especially if I'm dealing with other languages. I haven't tried either the SAPI vocalizer or the combined Vocalizer and Eloquence addon, since I already have them both, I don't see much sense in paying for them again. If I did I'd probably just get SAPI Vocalizer to go with SAPI Eloquence, because I'd be able to use it in more situations. I guess I haven't kept track of what's happening with Vocalizer voices so I could get all angry that I don' have an update yet, so it works fine for me. On 12/21/2017 12:10, JM Casey wrote:
HI.
I'm also curious. I started using nVDA with the Microsoft Core voices, but I would rather like to switch to Vocalizer. With all the back-and-forth going on here -- what add-on should I actaully acquire/pay for?
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige Sent: December 21, 2017 1:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
I'm curious, we have two other ones now, or versions of the same thing, the SAPI5 version and the combined NVDA addon. Do either of those have these new voices or whatever everybody wants?
On 12/21/2017 12:03, Lino Morales wrote:
Wait? We’ve waited long enough!
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net> *Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
Hello all,
As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to
complaint about this synthesiser.
I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with
Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.
I had no bad experience with them.
So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.
Best regards
Sylvie
Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :
Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long
time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it
happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let
users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s
not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple
of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You
took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been
unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way. On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote:
Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources. These are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better said, other company, I don't know mor than one. Regards. Iván Novegil Cancelas Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es - www.NVDA.es Usuario do NVDA en galego ***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.*** O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu: This message is sent outside of my moderator's role. do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise
anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in
the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is actually coming. On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com> wrote:
That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward
to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted! Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> escribió:
Soon... Regards, Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda. Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
Hi, Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
Thanks Chris -- Cordially, Nimer Jaber My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me. My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility. The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks. Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/ To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.org You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank you, and have a great day!
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Well, it really depends on what you want to do with it. As an example, while a SAPI version lets you use it in whatever can use SAPI voices, you lose a very important thing that you get with the NVDA addon. With the addon, you could install a copy of NVDA to a USB drive, license that copy, and have that voice wherever you go. You can't do that with SAPI because you actually have to install the voice on each new machine, and then license it. You can remove the license when you're done of course, but you still have to have the rights to install a SAPI voice. With the NVDA addon licensed to a USB drive, you get that voice on anything that will run that copy of NVDA. So here we go with links. NVDA addon: https://vocalizer-nvda.com/Combined Eloquence and Vocalizer addon, supposedly these synths have issues for some people, I've never tried them. http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=231Vocalizer SAPI voices, again, haven't tried them. http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=242SAPI Eloquence, I run this, works fine. http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=216Here's a site in the UK, in case that's where you live, selling at least the SAPI Eloquence and Vocalizer, although I don't necessarily see where to buy anything. I think the guy who runs this posts here from time to time though. http://www.comproom.co.uk/software-downloads-trials-and-updates/
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On 12/21/2017 13:43, JM Casey wrote: Thanks John. Makes sense. I don't need a big variety of voices to play with or anything like that. I'm mostly ok with just using Daniel all of the time, in fact. Sounds like going to the SAPI version would be quite sensible. I found two different vocalizer add-ons from the NVDA synths page (I think ... this was a while back actually) and as far as I know neither of them mention SAPI. Should I be looking in a different place?
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige Sent: December 21, 2017 1:53 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
I have Rui's addon and have no issues with it, accept I stupidly forgot to unlicense it when I had to reset Windows so I lost a license. I guess if there are new voices and stuff that would be a cool update, but I also get having to update the addon for NVDA and that taking time. I mostly use SAPI Eloquence nowadays but I still use Vocalizer, especially if I'm dealing with other languages. I haven't tried either the SAPI vocalizer or the combined Vocalizer and Eloquence addon, since I already have them both, I don't see much sense in paying for them again. If I did I'd probably just get SAPI Vocalizer to go with SAPI Eloquence, because I'd be able to use it in more situations. I guess I haven't kept track of what's happening with Vocalizer voices so I could get all angry that I don' have an update yet, so it works fine for me.
On 12/21/2017 12:10, JM Casey wrote:
HI.
I'm also curious. I started using nVDA with the Microsoft Core voices, but I would rather like to switch to Vocalizer. With all the back-and-forth going on here -- what add-on should I actaully acquire/pay for?
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige Sent: December 21, 2017 1:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
I'm curious, we have two other ones now, or versions of the same thing, the SAPI5 version and the combined NVDA addon. Do either of those have these new voices or whatever everybody wants?
On 12/21/2017 12:03, Lino Morales wrote:
Wait? We’ve waited long enough!
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *Sylvie Duchateau <mailto:sduchateau@access42.net> *Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
Hello all,
As a user of Vocalizer voices since more than 2 years, I don't have to
complaint about this synthesiser.
I lost my license rights and after some e-mail exchanges with
Tiflotecnia, we found a way to solve the problem.
I had no bad experience with them.
So let's wait till the new version comes, and let's see what happens.
Best regards
Sylvie
Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :
Although you obviously do feel passionate about this, I do feel that you might be close to upsetting somebody with this. whatever the rights and wrongs here, we do have to stay civil. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing, only lack of communication really. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia At least other companies add features like voices that users have been requesting. And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is coming for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I would like to say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that the product we are discussing will get updated in the features that users have been promised for a long
time will be added. So far though, that is just not reality. And until it
happens, I will keep coming out on this list and anywhere else that this product was discussed and I will keep telling users to avoid it. There’s really a very simple solution to this. Communicate with this list and let
users of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. Continue to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is coming soon when it’s
not. Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be delivered. And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we not have the update, but we don’t have any reason why the update still taking as long as it is. Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into a couple
of issues that should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s ridiculous. You
took a vantage of your users. You’ve taken years to update your product. User spent a lot of money on your product, the least you could do this update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I regret very much purchasing the product. I am a very to satisfied user. The level of support has been
unprofessional. And the lack of software updates as bad. So I can’t recommend it. Sorry if anyone disagrees. Again, this message is being written outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop access in any way. On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 00:33 iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@nvda.es> wrote:
Other companies add to their addons exe files that we don't know what they are doing. Furthermore, the exe file itself uses machine resources. These are some inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. Better said, other company, I don't know mor than one. Regards. Iván Novegil Cancelas Editorivan.novegil@nvda.es Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es - www.NVDA.es Usuario do NVDA en galego ***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.*** O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22, Nimer Jaber escribiu: This message is sent outside of my moderator's role. do not believe that this is the case. We have been hearing about this coming for a long, long, long time now... years actually. I would advise
anyone wishing to purchase Vocalizer to purchase the one not by Ruie or his company. There is another out there that I think atguys sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps on misleading its customers in
the way as has been done about this product and on this list. If it comes out I will apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so far indicates that this product is actually coming. On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@gmail.com> wrote:
That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m especially looking forward
to Spanish Chile’s Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices too, expanding these, especially for differemt voices in different situations (daily use, leisure reading…). Keep us posted! Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel El 20/12/2017, a la(s) 9:06 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> escribió:
Soon... Regards, Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda. Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook escreveu:
Hi, Is there any news on when the new vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, Oliver, Kate, etc. will be available from Tifloteknia?
Thanks Chris -- Cordially, Nimer Jaber My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools available to me. My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100% personal responsibility. The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks. Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/ To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.org You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank you, and have a great day!
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The problem is with the Eloquence voice, not with
the others available in the add on. I tried the add on when it first came
out and the problems were there, a lot of annoying artifacts in Eloquence.
I haven't seen anything indicating that the problem has been corrected and I saw
complaints about the artifacts about six or eight months ago. So they
are very likely still there. But you can try a demo and see.
Gene
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Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia
Well, it really depends on what you want to do with it. As an
example, while a SAPI version lets you use it in whatever can use SAPI
voices, you lose a very important thing that you get with the NVDA addon.
With the addon, you could install a copy of NVDA to a USB drive, license
that copy, and have that voice wherever you go. You can't do that
with SAPI because you actually have to install the voice on each new machine,
and then license it. You can remove the license when you're done of course,
but you still have to have the rights to install a SAPI voice. With the NVDA
addon licensed to a USB drive, you get that voice on anything that will run
that copy of NVDA. So here we go with links. NVDA
addon: https://vocalizer-nvda.com/Combined
Eloquence and Vocalizer addon, supposedly these synths have issues for some
people, I've never tried them. http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=231Vocalizer
SAPI voices, again, haven't tried them. http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=242SAPI
Eloquence, I run this, works fine. http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=216Here's
a site in the UK, in case that's where you live, selling at least the SAPI
Eloquence and Vocalizer, although I don't necessarily see where to buy
anything. I think the guy who runs this posts here from time to time
though. http://www.comproom.co.uk/software-downloads-trials-and-updates/On
12/21/2017 13:43, JM Casey wrote: > Thanks John. Makes sense. I don't need
a big variety of voices to play with or anything like that. I'm mostly ok with
just using Daniel all of the time, in fact. Sounds like going to the SAPI
version would be quite sensible. I found two different vocalizer add-ons from
the NVDA synths page (I think ... this was a while back actually) and as far as
I know neither of them mention SAPI. Should I be looking in a different
place? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige > Sent: December 21,
2017 1:53 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re:
[NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia > > I have Rui's addon and have no
issues with it, accept I stupidly forgot to unlicense it when I had to reset
Windows so I lost a license. I guess if there are new voices and stuff that
would be a cool update, but I also get having to update the addon for NVDA and
that taking time. I mostly use SAPI Eloquence nowadays but I still use
Vocalizer, especially if I'm dealing with other languages. I haven't tried
either the SAPI vocalizer or the combined Vocalizer and Eloquence addon, since I
already have them both, I don't see much sense in paying for them again. If I
did I'd probably just get SAPI Vocalizer to go with SAPI Eloquence, because I'd
be able to use it in more situations. I guess I haven't kept track of what's
happening with Vocalizer voices so I could get all angry that I don' have an
update yet, so it works fine for me. > > > On 12/21/2017
12:10, JM Casey wrote: >> HI. >> >> I'm also curious.
I started using nVDA with the Microsoft Core voices, but I would rather like to
switch to Vocalizer. With all the back-and-forth going on here -- what add-on
should I actaully acquire/pay
for? >> >> >> >> -----Original
Message----- >> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of >> John Isige >>
Sent: December 21, 2017 1:06 PM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Subject:
Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia >> >> I'm curious, we
have two other ones now, or versions of the same thing, the SAPI5 version and
the combined NVDA addon. Do either of those have these new voices or whatever
everybody wants? >> >> >> On 12/21/2017 12:03, Lino
Morales wrote: >>> Wait? We’ve waited long
enough! >>> >>> Sent from Mail < https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
for >>> Windows 10 >>> >>> *From: *Sylvie
Duchateau < mailto:sduchateau@...> >>>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 21, 2017 10:46 AM >>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io < mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>
*Subject: *Re: [NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia >>> >>>
Hello all, >>> >>> As a user of Vocalizer voices since
more than 2 years, I don't have >>>
to >>> >>> complaint about this
synthesiser. >>> >>> I lost my license rights and after
some e-mail exchanges with >>> >>> Tiflotecnia, we found
a way to solve the problem. >>> >>> I had no bad
experience with them. >>> >>> So let's wait till the new
version comes, and let's see what happens. >>> >>> Best
regards >>> >>> Sylvie >>> >>>
Le 21/12/2017 à 16:28, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit
: >>> >>>> Although you obviously do feel passionate
about this, I do feel that >>>> you might be close to upsetting
somebody with this. whatever the >>>> rights and wrongs here, we
do have to stay civil. There is no >>>> evidence of any
wrongdoing, only lack of communication really. >>>>
Brian >>>> bglists@...>>>>
Sent via blueyonder. >>>> Please address personal email
to:- >>>> briang1@..., putting
'Brian Gaff' >>>> in the display name field. >>>>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" >>>> < nimerjaber1@...> >>>>
To: < nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 9:23 AM >>>> Subject: Re:
[NVDA] Vocalizer from Tifloteknia At least other >>>> companies
add features like voices that users have been requesting. >>>>
And at least they don’t keep telling users that an update is
coming >>>> for years and not delivering on that update. Again, I
would like to >>>> say that I’m wrong. I would like to say that
the product we are >>>> discussing will get updated in the
features that users have been >>>> promised for a >>>
long >>> >>>> time will be added. So far though, that
is just not reality. And >>> until
it >>> >>>> happens, I will keep coming out on this
list and anywhere else that >>>> this product was discussed and I
will keep telling users to avoid >>>> it. >>>>
There’s >>>> really a very simple solution to this. Communicate
with this list >>> and let >>> >>>> users
of your product no why the promised update has not come yet. >>>>
Continue >>>> to update them. Stop delivering promises that it is
coming soon when >>> it’s >>> >>>> not.
Stop giving timelines. However, timelines continue to be
delivered. >>>> And we still don’t have an update. Not only do we
not have the >>>> update, but we don’t have any reason why the
update still taking as >>>> long as it is. >>>>
Other than an email Wayback that said that they are running into
a >>> couple >>> >>>> of issues that
should be resolved very soon. Clearly there are still >>>>
reasons why this product is not being delivered. And it’s >>>
ridiculous. You >>> >>>> took a vantage of your
users. You’ve taken years to update your product. >>>> User spent
a lot of money on your product, the least you could do >>>> this
update them on the progress of what is going on. Instead of >>>>
promising them an update that has still not been delivered. I
regret >>>> very much purchasing the product. I am a very to
satisfied user. The >>>> level of support has >>>
been >>> >>>> unprofessional. And the lack of
software updates as bad. So I can’t >>>> recommend it. Sorry if
anyone disagrees. Again, this message is >>>> being written
outside of my role as an owner and a moderator of this >>>>
listst, and my message does not represent nonvisual desktop
access >>>> in any way. >>>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017
at 00:33 iván Novegil < ivan.novegil@...>
wrote: >>>>> Other companies add to their addons exe files
that we don't know >>>>> what they are doing. Furthermore, the
exe file itself uses machine >>>>>
resources. >>>>> These >>>>> are some
inconvenients of buying Vocalizer with other companies. >>>>>
Better >>>>> said, other company, I don't know mor than
one. >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Iván Novegil
Cancelas >>>>> Editorivan.novegil@...>>>>>
Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es >>>>> -
www.NVDA.es>>>>> Usuario do
NVDA en galego >>>>> ***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os
seus adxuntos pode conter >>>>> información privada ou
confidencial. O emprego da información desta >>>>> mensaxe
e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado
do >>>>> destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se
recibiu esta >>>>> mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma
vía e destrúa a >>>>> mensaxe.*** O 21/12/2017 á(s) 4:22,
Nimer Jaber escribiu: >>>>> This message is sent outside of my
moderator's role. >>>>> do not believe that this is the case.
We have been hearing about >>>>> this coming for a long, long,
long time now... years actually. I >>>>> would >>>
advise >>> >>>>> anyone wishing to purchase
Vocalizer to purchase the one not by >>>>> Ruie or his
company. There is another out there that I think atguys >>>>>
sells that I would recommend. Shame on any company who keeps
on >>>>> misleading its >>> customers
in >>> >>>>> the way as has been done about this
product and on this list. If it >>>>> comes out I will
apologize for my harsh message, but no evidence so >>>>> far
indicates that this product is actually coming. >>>>> On Wed,
Dec 20, 2017 at 12:30 PM Gerardo Corripio >>>>> < gera1027@...> >>>>>
wrote: >>>>>> That’ll be something to look forward to. I’m
especially looking >>>
forward >>> >>>>>> to Spanish Chile’s
Francisca, and if they’ll English US. Voices >>>>>> too,
expanding these, especially for differemt voices in
different >>>>>> situations (daily use, leisure reading…).
Keep us posted! >>>>>> Gera >>>>>>
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel El 20/12/2017, a la(s)
9:06 >>>>>> a. m., Rui Fontes < rui.fontes@...> >>>>>>
escribió: >>>>>>>
Soon... >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>
Rui Fontes >>>>>>> Tiflotecnia,
Lda. >>>>>>> Às 14:52 de 20/12/2017, Chris Shook
escreveu: >>>>>>>>
Hi, >>>>>>>> Is there any news on when the new
vocalizer foices Ie, Nathan, >>>>>>
Oliver, >>>>>> Kate, etc. will be available from
Tifloteknia? >>>>>>>>
Thanks >>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>
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