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Morne van der Merwe
No Angela, I don't take it personal at all. When it comes to figuring out a peace of music, then I'm totally fine. But with computers and technical stuff I tend to make a total mess.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angela Delicata Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 5:15 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, Facebook and Outlook You can go to nvda settings and choose not to use screen layout and I think that should solve the problem. One question: did you spend ten minutes exploring nvda settings? I do not think so by your question because one who knows nothing like me has understood it just exploring... Best and remember to explore the screen reader you are using. Angela from Italy P.S Do not take it as personal because I don't know you at all, it is just a suggestion, humble opinion. We want tech support, but we also must be able to help ourselves by exploring things on our own. Il 24/12/2017 14:46, Morne van der Merwe ha scritto: Hello, |
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Morne van der Merwe
Thanks Jene, your suggestions helped a lot.
Regards
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 4:18 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, Facebook and Outlook
Also, how do you get to the messages link using the old screen-reader? It may be that NVDA presents the page slightly differently or doesn't see something your old screen-reader did, or it may be that a setting change will allow you to see the page in the same way. Try the following: Open the NVDA menu with NVDA key n. Down arrow to preferences and press enter. Down arrow to browse mode and press enter. A dialog opens. Tab around until you get to Use screen layout when supported. If it is checked, uncheck it. Then press enter. Does the page display as it did before? Or try the reverse. If it is currently unchecked, check it. See what happpens.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Bhavya shah Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, Facebook and Outlook
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You need to look at changing the way pages are laid out then. You can as far as I know configure nvda so links are on different lines if you have no interest in the actual screen layout for the sighted. In a way that only matters if you need to talk to the sighted.
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From: "Morne van der Merwe" <mornevdmerwe@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, Facebook and Outlook Hello, I think I've figured the Facebook issue out. The links for messages and profile are next to each other, not underneath each other. Latest version of Internet Explorer. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya shah Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 3:40 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, Facebook and Outlook Hi Morne, I use NVDA extensively on m.facebook.com with success. Could you specify the web browser and its version being used at your end while encountering difficulties in accessing your Messages? Thanks. On 12/24/17, Morne van der Merwe <mornevdmerwe@...> wrote: Hello NVDA family, -- Best Regards Bhavya Shah Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/ Contacting Me E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@... Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125 Mobile Number: +91 7506221750 |
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Gene
Looking through the settings might or might not
allow the user to make a reasonable guess about what the setting does. It
depends on part on the general level of knowledge the user has about how browse
mode reformats web pages and can guess about what this setting might do.
We've been talking about technical support in another
thread. I'll say this about technical support or list help, for that
matter. It isn't a good use of anyone's time, list members, a technical
support person, or the user's time, to have a problem or question come up caused
completely by a bad default setting and for no other reason. This is an
example. Also, if someone is evaluating
NVDA, the person may be left with a less favorable impression than he/she
otherwise would have had had the unnecessary problem not occurred. A lot
of people aren't on this list who use NVDA. A lot of people will never
know what is causing this sort of problem and they may, if they have a choice,
continue to use what they used before that didn't cause this problem.
Gene
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Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, Facebook and Outlook think that should solve the problem. One question: did you spend ten minutes exploring nvda settings? I do not think so by your question because one who knows nothing like me has understood it just exploring... Best and remember to explore the screen reader you are using. Angela from Italy P.S Do not take it as personal because I don't know you at all, it is just a suggestion, humble opinion. We want tech support, but we also must be able to help ourselves by exploring things on our own. Il 24/12/2017 14:46, Morne van der Merwe ha scritto: > Hello, > > I think I've figured the Facebook issue out. The links for messages and profile are next to each other, not underneath each other. > > Latest version of Internet Explorer. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya shah > Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 3:40 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, Facebook and Outlook > > Hi Morne, > I use NVDA extensively on m.facebook.com with success. Could you specify the web browser and its version being used at your end while encountering difficulties in accessing your Messages? > Thanks. > > On 12/24/17, Morne van der Merwe <mornevdmerwe@...> wrote: >> Hello NVDA family, >> >> >> >> I’m using NVDA with great success. I have 2 questions though. >> >> >> >> I’m currently using the mobile site of Facebook on my computer. I find >> that my previous screen reader reads more information than nvda on the >> mobile site. For example: It is easier with my previous reader to find >> the message link, while with NVDA I have to hit enter on a couple of >> links in order to get to my messages. Does NVDA work well on the actual Facebook site? >> >> >> >> Outlook: I’m using the latest version of Office. Is NVDA capable of >> telling you how many unread emails there are? I have folders in >> Outlook assigned to specific objects. I have an NVDA folder and >> messages related to NVDA goes directly to that folder. With the >> previous screen reader I could determine how many unread emails there >> are by just arrowing down through the folders. >> Is that possible with NVDA? >> >> >> >> Thanks for your help in advance. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> Morné >> >> > > -- > Best Regards > Bhavya Shah > > Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/ > > Contacting Me > E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@... Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125 Mobile Number: +91 7506221750 > > > > > > > > --- > Questa email è stata esaminata alla ricerca di virus da AVG. > http://www.avg.com > |
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Angela Delicata
You can go to nvda settings and choose not to use screen layout and I think that should solve the problem.
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One question: did you spend ten minutes exploring nvda settings? I do not think so by your question because one who knows nothing like me has understood it just exploring... Best and remember to explore the screen reader you are using. Angela from Italy P.S Do not take it as personal because I don't know you at all, it is just a suggestion, humble opinion. We want tech support, but we also must be able to help ourselves by exploring things on our own. Il 24/12/2017 14:46, Morne van der Merwe ha scritto:
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Angela Delicata
Hi,
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One thing I would say not to come out with stating nvda does not work on FB mobile site because it is not true! It works both with Firefox and IE! Edge is not so good, but this is with other screen reader also. and I would say maybe it is my problem because I do not know how to use Edge. So, I don't see any difficulty in browsing Facebook mobile with nvda. Il 24/12/2017 14:40, Bhavya shah ha scritto:
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Bhavya shah
Hi Gene,
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Agreed. Thanks. On 12/24/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Just one more example of what I've been saying but I doubt the designers --
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Gene
Just one more example of what I've been saying but
I doubt the designers will make the change. I explained in my previous
message how to change this behavior. It is a very bad default setting to
have use screen layout on as the default.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
From: Morne van der Merwe
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, Facebook and Outlook I think I've figured the Facebook issue out. The links for messages and profile are next to each other, not underneath each other. Latest version of Internet Explorer. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya shah Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 3:40 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, Facebook and Outlook Hi Morne, I use NVDA extensively on m.facebook.com with success. Could you specify the web browser and its version being used at your end while encountering difficulties in accessing your Messages? Thanks. On 12/24/17, Morne van der Merwe <mornevdmerwe@...> wrote: > Hello NVDA family, > > > > I’m using NVDA with great success. I have 2 questions though. > > > > I’m currently using the mobile site of Facebook on my computer. I find > that my previous screen reader reads more information than nvda on the > mobile site. For example: It is easier with my previous reader to find > the message link, while with NVDA I have to hit enter on a couple of > links in order to get to my messages. Does NVDA work well on the actual Facebook site? > > > > Outlook: I’m using the latest version of Office. Is NVDA capable of > telling you how many unread emails there are? I have folders in > Outlook assigned to specific objects. I have an NVDA folder and > messages related to NVDA goes directly to that folder. With the > previous screen reader I could determine how many unread emails there > are by just arrowing down through the folders. > Is that possible with NVDA? > > > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > > > Kind regards > > Morné > > -- Best Regards Bhavya Shah Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/ Contacting Me E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@... Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125 Mobile Number: +91 7506221750 |
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Gene
Also, how do you get to the messages link using the
old screen-reader? It may be that NVDA presents the page slightly
differently or doesn't see something your old screen-reader did, or it may be
that a setting change will allow you to see the page in the same way. Try
the following:
Open the NVDA menu with NVDA key n.
Down arrow to preferences and press
enter.
Down arrow to browse mode and press
enter.
A dialog opens.
Tab around until you get to Use screen layout when
supported.
If it is checked, uncheck it. Then press
enter.
Does the page display as it did before?
Or try the reverse. If it is currently
unchecked, check it. See what happpens.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
From: Bhavya shah
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, Facebook and Outlook I use NVDA extensively on m.facebook.com with success. Could you specify the web browser and its version being used at your end while encountering difficulties in accessing your Messages? Thanks. On 12/24/17, Morne van der Merwe <mornevdmerwe@...> wrote: > Hello NVDA family, > > > > I’m using NVDA with great success. I have 2 questions though. > > > > I’m currently using the mobile site of Facebook on my computer. I find that > my previous screen reader reads more information than nvda on the mobile > site. For example: It is easier with my previous reader to find the message > link, while with NVDA I have to hit enter on a couple of links in order to > get to my messages. Does NVDA work well on the actual Facebook site? > > > > Outlook: I’m using the latest version of Office. Is NVDA capable of > telling > you how many unread emails there are? I have folders in Outlook assigned to > specific objects. I have an NVDA folder and messages related to NVDA goes > directly to that folder. With the previous screen reader I could determine > how many unread emails there are by just arrowing down through the folders. > Is that possible with NVDA? > > > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > > > Kind regards > > Morné > > -- Best Regards Bhavya Shah Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/ Contacting Me E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@... Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125 Mobile Number: +91 7506221750 |
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Bhavya shah
Hi Morne,
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Ah, alright. If you want the two links to be one below the other, instead of besides, you need to toggle screen layout by pressing NVDA+V. Thanks. On 12/24/17, Morne van der Merwe <mornevdmerwe@...> wrote:
Hello, --
Best Regards Bhavya Shah Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/ Contacting Me E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@... Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125 Mobile Number: +91 7506221750 |
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Morne van der Merwe
Hello,
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I think I've figured the Facebook issue out. The links for messages and profile are next to each other, not underneath each other. Latest version of Internet Explorer. -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya shah Sent: Sunday, 24 December 2017 3:40 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, Facebook and Outlook Hi Morne, I use NVDA extensively on m.facebook.com with success. Could you specify the web browser and its version being used at your end while encountering difficulties in accessing your Messages? Thanks. On 12/24/17, Morne van der Merwe <mornevdmerwe@...> wrote: Hello NVDA family, -- Best Regards Bhavya Shah Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/ Contacting Me E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@... Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125 Mobile Number: +91 7506221750 |
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Bhavya shah
Hi Morne,
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I use NVDA extensively on m.facebook.com with success. Could you specify the web browser and its version being used at your end while encountering difficulties in accessing your Messages? Thanks. On 12/24/17, Morne van der Merwe <mornevdmerwe@...> wrote:
Hello NVDA family, --
Best Regards Bhavya Shah Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/ Contacting Me E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@... Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125 Mobile Number: +91 7506221750 |
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Morne van der Merwe
Hello NVDA family,
I’m using NVDA with great success. I have 2 questions though.
I’m currently using the mobile site of Facebook on my computer. I find that my previous screen reader reads more information than nvda on the mobile site. For example: It is easier with my previous reader to find the message link, while with NVDA I have to hit enter on a couple of links in order to get to my messages. Does NVDA work well on the actual Facebook site?
Outlook: I’m using the latest version of Office. Is NVDA capable of telling you how many unread emails there are? I have folders in Outlook assigned to specific objects. I have an NVDA folder and messages related to NVDA goes directly to that folder. With the previous screen reader I could determine how many unread emails there are by just arrowing down through the folders. Is that possible with NVDA?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Kind regards Morné |
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