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Working with Libreoffice is so slow


Edhoari Setiyoso
 

Hi All,

I'm trying to edit document with LibreOffice Calc. Mowing between cell is so slow. I have to wait around 3-4 seconds before I can type anything. Is there a way to workaround this?

Note: I have the same issue with LibreOffice Writer as well.

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Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari<dot>s<at>gmail<dot>com


Quentin Christensen
 

Hi,

Sorry for the delay in replying, I'm still catching up.  Is this sluggishness with a particular file, or any file (or a blank sheet etc)?

A couple of thing to try or find out please:

- Which version of LibreOffice are you running?
- Which version of Windows?
- Which version of NVDA?
- Are you using any add-ons?
- If you restart NVDA with addons disabled (press NVDA+q, then down arrow to restart with addons disabled) does it make a difference.
- Roughly how old is the computer you are using and are other programs sluggish?



On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Edhoari Setiyoso <edhoari.s@...> wrote:
Hi All,

I'm trying to edit document with LibreOffice Calc. Mowing between cell is so slow. I have to wait around 3-4 seconds before I can type anything. Is there a way to workaround this?

Note: I have the same issue with LibreOffice Writer as well.

--
Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari<dot>s<at>gmail<dot>com







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V Stuart Foote
 

Folks need to be on LibreOffice 5.3.7.2 of the 5.3 branch. Or 5.4.4.2 of the 5.4 branch. Earlier 5.3 releases are not fit to use, nor or earlier 5.4 releases--again either 5.3.7.2 or 5.4.4.2 (or later).

LibreOffice devs have been struggling with Microsoft DirectWrite Direct2D font rendering for several release cycles and either the 5.3.7 release (end of life) or current 5.4.4 release should be used--NVDA behaves well with either but the Graphics card rendering mode will impact things.

Most modern Windows systems will use OpenGL by default, and LibreOffice's DirectWrite Direct2D implementation has been a problem--more than just on screen rendering.  Basically there were issues with failure to cache the fonts in use in a document causing very slow rendering as you move from cell to cell in a calc spreadsheet or page through a Writer document.  The 5.3.7 build is fine without OpenGL, but if using OpenGL (likely for most) move to the 5.4.4 release, or the pending 6.0.0 release.  Link below.

Performance is much improved for all users, good scrolling and movement between spreadsheet cells.

Stuart

Link to the LibreOffice project build archive for the 5.4.4.2 build, 32-bit or 64-bit builds:

http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.4.4.2/win/


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Is there a version of the suggested version for use as a portable app, as this is what I'm using it for.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "V Stuart Foote" <vstuart.foote@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Libreoffice is so slow


Folks need to be on LibreOffice 5.3.7.2 of the 5.3 branch. Or 5.4.4.2 of the 5.4 branch. Earlier 5.3 releases are not fit to use, nor or earlier 5.4 releases--again either 5.3.7.2 or 5.4.4.2 (or later).

LibreOffice devs have been struggling with Microsoft DirectWrite Direct2D font rendering for several release cycles and either the 5.3.7 release (end of life) or current 5.4.4 release should be used--NVDA behaves well with either but the Graphics card rendering mode will impact things.

Most modern Windows systems will use OpenGL by default, and LibreOffice's DirectWrite Direct2D implementation has been a problem--more than just on screen rendering. Basically there were issues with failure to cache the fonts in use in a document causing very slow rendering as you move from cell to cell in a calc spreadsheet or page through a Writer document. The 5.3.7 build is fine without OpenGL, but if using OpenGL (likely for most) move to the 5.4.4 release, or the pending 6.0.0 release. Link below.

Performance is much improved for all users, good scrolling and movement between spreadsheet cells.

Stuart

Link to the LibreOffice project build archive for the 5.4.4.2 build, 32-bit or 64-bit builds:

http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.4.4.2/win/


V Stuart Foote
 

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:33 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Is there a version of the suggested version for use as a portable app, as
this is what I'm using it for.
Brian

 Yes, both 5.3.7 and 5.4.4 are available as PortableApps.com framework PAFs  (for Windows), an English build and a larger All "supported" languages build.

5.3.7
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.3.7

5.4.4
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.4.4

I have no personal experience with using these NVDA, let us know


 

hi.
i did not check portable versions of libreoffice recently.
but previous versions are not usable with nvda.
everytimes, when i opened one portable version of libreoffice, (i mean
version 4 portable), libreoffice crashed even sometimes by going to
menus and options!
i am sure that i did not test libreoffice 5.1 and newer portable and
have not idea in this regard.
but for more certainty, i recommend installed version of libreoffice.

this post is about libreoffice.
can you please stuart brian, quentin and all, test my reported bug in
this link, read my comments, (specially my description and last
comment) and help me for finding a solution?

i reported this bug around 7 months ago, but without confermation and
solution from anyone!

God bless you all!

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108582

On 1/19/18, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@...> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:33 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


Is there a version of the suggested version for use as a portable app, as
this is what I'm using it for.
Brian

 Yes, both 5.3.7 and 5.4.4 are available as PortableApps.com framework PAFs
(for Windows), an English build and a larger All "supported" languages
build.

5.3.7
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.3.7

5.4.4
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.4.4

I have no personal experience with using these NVDA, let us know
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

If you only want writer, then the portable version is fine, if a little restrictive given you have no browse mode or say all etc in the document.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Libreoffice is so slow


hi.
i did not check portable versions of libreoffice recently.
but previous versions are not usable with nvda.
everytimes, when i opened one portable version of libreoffice, (i mean
version 4 portable), libreoffice crashed even sometimes by going to
menus and options!
i am sure that i did not test libreoffice 5.1 and newer portable and
have not idea in this regard.
but for more certainty, i recommend installed version of libreoffice.

this post is about libreoffice.
can you please stuart brian, quentin and all, test my reported bug in
this link, read my comments, (specially my description and last
comment) and help me for finding a solution?

i reported this bug around 7 months ago, but without confermation and
solution from anyone!

God bless you all!

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108582

On 1/19/18, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@...> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:33 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


Is there a version of the suggested version for use as a portable app, as
this is what I'm using it for.
Brian

Yes, both 5.3.7 and 5.4.4 are available as PortableApps.com framework PAFs
(for Windows), an English build and a larger All "supported" languages
build.

5.3.7
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.3.7

5.4.4
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.4.4

I have no personal experience with using these NVDA, let us know

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


 

i tried previous versions of writer portable and libreoffice crashed
even after going to menus and options with nvda active!

On 1/22/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
If you only want writer, then the portable version is fine, if a little
restrictive given you have no browse mode or say all etc in the document.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Libreoffice is so slow


hi.
i did not check portable versions of libreoffice recently.
but previous versions are not usable with nvda.
everytimes, when i opened one portable version of libreoffice, (i mean
version 4 portable), libreoffice crashed even sometimes by going to
menus and options!
i am sure that i did not test libreoffice 5.1 and newer portable and
have not idea in this regard.
but for more certainty, i recommend installed version of libreoffice.

this post is about libreoffice.
can you please stuart brian, quentin and all, test my reported bug in
this link, read my comments, (specially my description and last
comment) and help me for finding a solution?

i reported this bug around 7 months ago, but without confermation and
solution from anyone!

God bless you all!

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108582

On 1/19/18, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@...> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:33 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


Is there a version of the suggested version for use as a portable app,
as
this is what I'm using it for.
Brian

Yes, both 5.3.7 and 5.4.4 are available as PortableApps.com framework
PAFs
(for Windows), an English build and a larger All "supported" languages
build.

5.3.7
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.3.7

5.4.4
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.4.4

I have no personal experience with using these NVDA, let us know

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

version 5.64 on windows 7.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Libreoffice is so slow


i tried previous versions of writer portable and libreoffice crashed
even after going to menus and options with nvda active!

On 1/22/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
If you only want writer, then the portable version is fine, if a little
restrictive given you have no browse mode or say all etc in the document.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Libreoffice is so slow


hi.
i did not check portable versions of libreoffice recently.
but previous versions are not usable with nvda.
everytimes, when i opened one portable version of libreoffice, (i mean
version 4 portable), libreoffice crashed even sometimes by going to
menus and options!
i am sure that i did not test libreoffice 5.1 and newer portable and
have not idea in this regard.
but for more certainty, i recommend installed version of libreoffice.

this post is about libreoffice.
can you please stuart brian, quentin and all, test my reported bug in
this link, read my comments, (specially my description and last
comment) and help me for finding a solution?

i reported this bug around 7 months ago, but without confermation and
solution from anyone!

God bless you all!

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108582

On 1/19/18, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@...> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:33 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


Is there a version of the suggested version for use as a portable app,
as
this is what I'm using it for.
Brian

Yes, both 5.3.7 and 5.4.4 are available as PortableApps.com framework
PAFs
(for Windows), an English build and a larger All "supported" languages
build.

5.3.7
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.3.7

5.4.4
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.4.4

I have no personal experience with using these NVDA, let us know

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


 

my version is x86 which i think is more accessible and more stable.

On 1/22/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
version 5.64 on windows 7.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Libreoffice is so slow


i tried previous versions of writer portable and libreoffice crashed
even after going to menus and options with nvda active!

On 1/22/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
If you only want writer, then the portable version is fine, if a little
restrictive given you have no browse mode or say all etc in the
document.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Working with Libreoffice is so slow


hi.
i did not check portable versions of libreoffice recently.
but previous versions are not usable with nvda.
everytimes, when i opened one portable version of libreoffice, (i mean
version 4 portable), libreoffice crashed even sometimes by going to
menus and options!
i am sure that i did not test libreoffice 5.1 and newer portable and
have not idea in this regard.
but for more certainty, i recommend installed version of libreoffice.

this post is about libreoffice.
can you please stuart brian, quentin and all, test my reported bug in
this link, read my comments, (specially my description and last
comment) and help me for finding a solution?

i reported this bug around 7 months ago, but without confermation and
solution from anyone!

God bless you all!

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108582

On 1/19/18, V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@...> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:33 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


Is there a version of the suggested version for use as a portable app,
as
this is what I'm using it for.
Brian

Yes, both 5.3.7 and 5.4.4 are available as PortableApps.com framework
PAFs
(for Windows), an English build and a larger All "supported" languages
build.

5.3.7
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.3.7

5.4.4
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/5.4.4

I have no personal experience with using these NVDA, let us know

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org