outlook question


Gary Metzler
 

Hi All,

 

Yesterday I started using outlook 2016 because I can’t get my contacts synced in the mail and people apps.  I am using the latest windows 10 and nvda.  When I open a message it doesn’t always read the whole message.  I have the auto read checkbox checked.  What can I do to fix this?  Thanks for any help.   

 

Regards, Gary kn4ox

 


Gene
 

I don't use Outlook but for all cases where I want to have speak all work correctly where it doesn't, I use the actual command.  I use that command every time I read a message in Windows Live Mail.  If I don't, perhaps because I read mail in plain text, the entire message isn't read.  I don't like the standard read all command.  I have the caps lock set as an NVDA key, so I can issue the command caps lock down arrow. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 12:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] outlook question

Hi All,

 

Yesterday I started using outlook 2016 because I can’t get my contacts synced in the mail and people apps.  I am using the latest windows 10 and nvda.  When I open a message it doesn’t always read the whole message.  I have the auto read checkbox checked.  What can I do to fix this?  Thanks for any help.   

 

Regards, Gary kn4ox

 


Gary Metzler
 

Hi Gene,

 

Thanks for the info.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 1:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook question

 

I don't use Outlook but for all cases where I want to have speak all work correctly where it doesn't, I use the actual command.  I use that command every time I read a message in Windows Live Mail.  If I don't, perhaps because I read mail in plain text, the entire message isn't read.  I don't like the standard read all command.  I have the caps lock set as an NVDA key, so I can issue the command caps lock down arrow. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 12:03 PM

Subject: [nvda] outlook question

 

Hi All,

 

Yesterday I started using outlook 2016 because I can’t get my contacts synced in the mail and people apps.  I am using the latest windows 10 and nvda.  When I open a message it doesn’t always read the whole message.  I have the auto read checkbox checked.  What can I do to fix this?  Thanks for any help.   

 

Regards, Gary kn4ox

 


Brian's Mail list account
 

Its also worth noting that read all can be given without allowing the virtual cursor to move. What you need to be is in object nav, ie the default state of the navigation mode, and use the keypad plus to auto read the message.
As I say if its in screen mode its not going to work right, but otherwise it seems to. I now read in html but do not have any of the preview panes on in email or other software as otherwise it tends to read the on screen bit of that rather than the message you open. and this is not just an nvda issue either!

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook question


I don't use Outlook but for all cases where I want to have speak all work correctly where it doesn't, I use the actual command. I use that command every time I read a message in Windows Live Mail. If I don't, perhaps because I read mail in plain text, the entire message isn't read. I don't like the standard read all command. I have the caps lock set as an NVDA key, so I can issue the command caps lock down arrow.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Metzler
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 12:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] outlook question


Hi All,



Yesterday I started using outlook 2016 because I can't get my contacts synced in the mail and people apps. I am using the latest windows 10 and nvda. When I open a message it doesn't always read the whole message. I have the auto read checkbox checked. What can I do to fix this? Thanks for any help.



Regards, Gary kn4ox


Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

Wondering about outlook. Sorry, but I've not paid attension to the outlook discussion here. Is this a web-based mail service or a local mail client? Years ago, I used outlook as part of office 97, office 2000, and office 2003. At that time, I thought that a standalone outlook was something you had to purchase.

Since "big brother" won't let me use outlook express any more--and NVDA worked so well with it, I need to start learning something else. Maybe outlook is the one.

Thanks.

Howard


Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I think they're talking about the email client.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard
Traxler
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 6:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] outlook question

Wondering about outlook. Sorry, but I've not paid attension to the outlook
discussion here. Is this a web-based mail service or a local mail client?
Years ago, I used outlook as part of office 97, office 2000, and office
2003. At that time, I thought that a standalone outlook was something you
had to purchase.

Since "big brother" won't let me use outlook express any more--and NVDA
worked so well with it, I need to start learning something else. Maybe
outlook is the one.

Thanks.

Howard


Brian's Mail list account
 

I'm assuming its the one supplied with Office 2016. By the mere statement of the originator saying Microsoft supplied it as no success was being had getting the free Windows mail client to work.
However I'm sure we all also know that Microsoft have been having severe crashing issues with Outlook recently in windows 10 too, if a screenreader is present.
Hopefully recent updates have resolved this, but I think that was what you wanted to know.
So no, in my view you would need to be pretty desperate to use Windows webmail on their outlook used to be hotmail web interface. I think maybe it was designed by a drunk programmer....
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <howard@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:29 AM
Subject: [nvda] outlook question


Wondering about outlook. Sorry, but I've not paid attension to the outlook discussion here. Is this a web-based mail service or a local mail client? Years ago, I used outlook as part of office 97, office 2000, and office 2003. At that time, I thought that a standalone outlook was something you had to purchase.

Since "big brother" won't let me use outlook express any more--and NVDA worked so well with it, I need to start learning something else. Maybe outlook is the one.

Thanks.

Howard


Gary Metzler
 

Hi Brian,

Thanks,

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 3:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook question

Its also worth noting that read all can be given without allowing the
virtual cursor to move. What you need to be is in object nav, ie the default
state of the navigation mode, and use the keypad plus to auto read the
message.
As I say if its in screen mode its not going to work right, but otherwise
it seems to. I now read in html but do not have any of the preview panes on
in email or other software as otherwise it tends to read the on screen bit
of that rather than the message you open. and this is not just an nvda issue
either!

Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook question


I don't use Outlook but for all cases where I want to have speak all work
correctly where it doesn't, I use the actual command. I use that command
every time I read a message in Windows Live Mail. If I don't, perhaps
because I read mail in plain text, the entire message isn't read. I don't
like the standard read all command. I have the caps lock set as an NVDA
key, so I can issue the command caps lock down arrow.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Metzler
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 12:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] outlook question


Hi All,



Yesterday I started using outlook 2016 because I can't get my contacts
synced in the mail and people apps. I am using the latest windows 10 and
nvda. When I open a message it doesn't always read the whole message. I
have the auto read checkbox checked. What can I do to fix this? Thanks for

any help.



Regards, Gary kn4ox


Gene
 

You have to pay for Outlook.  Outlook is an e-mail program.  I'm not sure if there is both a cloud based and a local version.  Whatever the case, I see more complaints about Outlook than about any other popular Windows e-mail program.  I would keep away from it unless you have a specific reason to use it.  With Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail, and, if you use Windows 10, the Windows mail app all available as choices, there is no reason to pay for an e-mail program unless you want its extra features which are business-related features.  Windows Live Mail is no longer supported by Microsoft but you can still get it from people who have the full installer.  One or more people on this list has it.  Thunderbird and the Windows Mail app are supported and available in the usual ways.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook question

I'm assuming its the one supplied with Office 2016. By the mere statement of
the originator saying Microsoft supplied it as no success was being had
getting the free Windows mail client to work.
 However I'm sure we all also know that Microsoft have been having severe
crashing issues with Outlook recently in windows 10 too, if a screenreader
is present.
 Hopefully recent updates have resolved this, but I think that was what you
wanted to know.
 So no, in my view you would need to be pretty desperate to use Windows
webmail on their outlook used to be hotmail web interface. I think maybe it
was designed by a drunk programmer....
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <howard@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 2:29 AM
Subject: [nvda] outlook question


> Wondering about outlook.  Sorry, but I've not paid attension to the
> outlook discussion here.  Is this a web-based mail service or a local mail
> client? Years ago, I used outlook as part of office 97, office 2000, and
> office 2003.  At that time, I thought that a standalone outlook was
> something you had to purchase.
>
> Since "big brother" won't let me use outlook express any more--and NVDA
> worked so well with it, I need to start learning something else.  Maybe
> outlook is the one.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Howard
>
>
>