Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
|
|
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille
display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive.
What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie
Duchateau wrote:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for
companies for some months now, I have encountered one
problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a
shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it
with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I
cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the
speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3
version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of
NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any
experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
|
|
In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha Think this has been the case for a while On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
|
|
Hello,
This is the same here.
It seems to work better with other screen readers.
May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started.
Best
Sylvie
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Aine Kelly Costello via groups.io
Envoyé : mardi 20 octobre 2020 15:22
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field
With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha
Think this has been the case for a while
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only
with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only
with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
|
|
Hello,
This problem comes up periodically. You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”. In Excel 365, do this:
Open an Excel spreadsheet.
Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced. Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in cells. Uncheck that
box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.
Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@...
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello,
This is the same here.
It seems to work better with other screen readers.
May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started.
Best
Sylvie
In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field
With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha
Think this has been the case for a while
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only
with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only
with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
|
|
Hello Louis and all,
Thank you for this tip, it works!
Does anyone know what this checkbox is for?
Why checking this box prevents NVDA from using braille in cells but not other screEn readers?
Best
Sylvie
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Louis Maher via groups.io
Envoyé : mardi 20 octobre 2020 17:38
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello,
This problem comes up periodically. You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”. In Excel 365, do this:
Open an Excel spreadsheet.
Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced. Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in cells. Uncheck that
box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello,
This is the same here.
It seems to work better with other screen readers.
May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started.
Best
Sylvie
In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field
With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha
Think this has been the case for a while
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only
with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only
with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
|
|
Folks,
Unchecking this box effects JAWS as well.
When the NVDA, or Microsoft, error is corrected, you can check this box, and your Excel editing will go faster.
Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@...
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello Louis and all,
Thank you for this tip, it works!
Does anyone know what this checkbox is for?
Why checking this box prevents NVDA from using braille in cells but not other screEn readers?
Best
Sylvie
Hello,
This problem comes up periodically. You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”. In Excel 365, do this:
Open an Excel spreadsheet.
Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced. Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in cells. Uncheck that
box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.
Hello,
This is the same here.
It seems to work better with other screen readers.
May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started.
Best
Sylvie
In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field
With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha
Think this has been the case for a while
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only
with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only
with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
|
|
Louis and others,
The question is : is this a Microsoft or NVDA issue?
I did not want to mention the screen reader’s name here, but as you did, I don’t encounter the problem with JAWS when the checkbox is enabled.
Best
Sylvie
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Louis Maher via groups.io
Envoyé : jeudi 22 octobre 2020 12:42
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Folks,
Unchecking this box effects JAWS as well.
When the NVDA, or Microsoft, error is corrected, you can check this box, and your Excel editing will go faster.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello Louis and all,
Thank you for this tip, it works!
Does anyone know what this checkbox is for?
Why checking this box prevents NVDA from using braille in cells but not other screEn readers?
Best
Sylvie
Hello,
This problem comes up periodically. You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”. In Excel 365, do this:
Open an Excel spreadsheet.
Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced. Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in cells. Uncheck that
box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.
Hello,
This is the same here.
It seems to work better with other screen readers.
May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started.
Best
Sylvie
In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field
With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha
Think this has been the case for a while
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only
with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only
with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
|
|
Someone please tell me about this checkbox. To whom does it belong (JAWS, NVDA, windows, etc.) and where is it found? I'd like to take a look.
Howard
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 10/22/2020 5:42 AM, Louis Maher wrote: Folks,
Unchecking this box effects JAWS as well.
When the NVDA, or Microsoft, error is corrected, you can check this box, and your Excel editing will go faster.
Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:30 AM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello Louis and all,
Thank you for this tip, it works!
Does anyone know what this checkbox is for?
Why checking this box prevents NVDA from using braille in cells but not other screEn readers?
Best
Sylvie
*De :*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *De la part de* Louis Maher via groups.io *Envoyé :* mardi 20 octobre 2020 17:38 *À :* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Objet :* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello,
This problem comes up periodically. You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”. In Excel 365, do this: Open an Excel spreadsheet. Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced. Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in cells. Uncheck that box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.
Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com <mailto:ljmaher03@outlook.com>
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau *Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:28 AM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello,
This is the same here.
It seems to work better with other screen readers.
May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started.
Best
Sylvie
*De :*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *De la part de* Aine Kelly Costello via groups.io *Envoyé :* mardi 20 octobre 2020 15:22 *À :* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Objet :* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha Think this has been the case for a while
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.twitter.com%2Fbmoore123&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca444a07000f944f8255208d8766d097e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637389557960464578%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=r7SlRv51QnssRrXmpPpvWh4ppThc1sCep7FRmtcmcUM%3D&reserved=0>
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.twitter.com%2Fbmoore123&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca444a07000f944f8255208d8766d097e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637389557960464578%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=r7SlRv51QnssRrXmpPpvWh4ppThc1sCep7FRmtcmcUM%3D&reserved=0>
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
|
|
Hello Howard and all, As Louis wrote, this checkbox is in the Excel advanced options. If you uncheck it, you can read Excel cells content in Braille when editing it with f2. I contacted the Microsoft Disability Help Desk and told them about the problem. They told me they would investigate. I had a look on an older PC with NVDA 2020.3 and Excel 2013. The Checkbox exists also and I did not identify the braille problem. So I suppose it is related to Office 365 and NVDA. Best Sylvie
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-----Message d'origine----- De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Howard Traxler via groups.io Envoyé : jeudi 22 octobre 2020 16:29 À : nvda@nvda.groups.io Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365 Someone please tell me about this checkbox. To whom does it belong (JAWS, NVDA, windows, etc.) and where is it found? I'd like to take a look. Howard On 10/22/2020 5:42 AM, Louis Maher wrote: Folks,
Unchecking this box effects JAWS as well.
When the NVDA, or Microsoft, error is corrected, you can check this box, and your Excel editing will go faster.
Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:30 AM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello Louis and all,
Thank you for this tip, it works!
Does anyone know what this checkbox is for?
Why checking this box prevents NVDA from using braille in cells but not other screEn readers?
Best
Sylvie
*De :*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *De la part de* Louis Maher via groups.io *Envoyé :* mardi 20 octobre 2020 17:38 *À :* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Objet :* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello,
This problem comes up periodically. You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”. In Excel 365, do this: Open an Excel spreadsheet. Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced. Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in cells. Uncheck that box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.
Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com <mailto:ljmaher03@outlook.com>
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau *Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:28 AM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello,
This is the same here.
It seems to work better with other screen readers.
May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started.
Best
Sylvie
*De :*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *De la part de* Aine Kelly Costello via groups.io *Envoyé :* mardi 20 octobre 2020 15:22 *À :* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Objet :* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha Think this has been the case for a while
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
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On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
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On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
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Hello,
This error shows up every couple of years. I believe Microsoft changes something and it takes the screen readers time to make a change. Another explanation is that Microsoft breaks something then fixes it. This issue comes and goes and predates Office 365.
Regards Louis Maher Phone: 713-444-7838 E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:39 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365 Hello Howard and all, As Louis wrote, this checkbox is in the Excel advanced options. If you uncheck it, you can read Excel cells content in Braille when editing it with f2. I contacted the Microsoft Disability Help Desk and told them about the problem. They told me they would investigate. I had a look on an older PC with NVDA 2020.3 and Excel 2013. The Checkbox exists also and I did not identify the braille problem. So I suppose it is related to Office 365 and NVDA. Best Sylvie -----Message d'origine----- De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Howard Traxler via groups.io Envoyé : jeudi 22 octobre 2020 16:29 À : nvda@nvda.groups.io Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365 Someone please tell me about this checkbox. To whom does it belong (JAWS, NVDA, windows, etc.) and where is it found? I'd like to take a look. Howard On 10/22/2020 5:42 AM, Louis Maher wrote: Folks,
Unchecking this box effects JAWS as well.
When the NVDA, or Microsoft, error is corrected, you can check this box, and your Excel editing will go faster.
Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2020 4:30 AM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello Louis and all,
Thank you for this tip, it works!
Does anyone know what this checkbox is for?
Why checking this box prevents NVDA from using braille in cells but not other screEn readers?
Best
Sylvie
*De :*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *De la part de* Louis Maher via groups.io *Envoyé :* mardi 20 octobre 2020 17:38 *À :* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Objet :* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello,
This problem comes up periodically. You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”. In Excel 365, do this: Open an Excel spreadsheet. Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced. Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in cells. Uncheck that box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.
Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com <mailto:ljmaher03@outlook.com>
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Sylvie Duchateau *Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:28 AM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Hello,
This is the same here.
It seems to work better with other screen readers.
May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started.
Best
Sylvie
*De :*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *De la part de* Aine Kelly Costello via groups.io *Envoyé :* mardi 20 octobre 2020 15:22 *À :* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Objet :* Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha Think this has been the case for a while
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
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On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
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On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
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Past experience suggests that Microsoft makes a change, and it breaks either NVDA or JAWS or both.
Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail ljmaher03@...
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Louis and others,
The question is : is this a Microsoft or NVDA issue?
I did not want to mention the screen reader’s name here, but as you did, I don’t encounter the problem with JAWS when the checkbox is enabled.
Best
Sylvie
Folks,
Unchecking this box effects JAWS as well.
When the NVDA, or Microsoft, error is corrected, you can check this box, and your Excel editing will go faster.
Hello Louis and all,
Thank you for this tip, it works!
Does anyone know what this checkbox is for?
Why checking this box prevents NVDA from using braille in cells but not other screEn readers?
Best
Sylvie
Hello,
This problem comes up periodically. You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”. In Excel 365, do this:
Open an Excel spreadsheet.
Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced. Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in cells. Uncheck that
box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.
Hello,
This is the same here.
It seems to work better with other screen readers.
May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started.
Best
Sylvie
In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field
With QBraille XL and a recent NVDA alpha
Think this has been the case for a while
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only
with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:13 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. this is strange. Not having this problem with a braille display and a shared sheet shared through corporate one drive. What display are you using?
Brian.
Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2020 11:12 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello all,
Using Office 365 for companies for some months now, I have encountered one problem accessing cell content in Braille.
When I want to edit a shared Excel file and write in a particular cell, opening it with F2, NVDA does not refresh the Braille display and I cannot correct typos with the braille display, only
with the speech synthesiser.
I use last NVDA 2020.3 version with Office 365 for businesses.
Is it a known problem of NVDA or should I rather contact Microsoft?
Thank you for any experience some of you may have.
Best
Sylvie
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