NVDA and outlook questions
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Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who the message is to? |
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Gene
Does a suggestion appear on the line where you are typing? In Thunderbird, no suggestion is on that line. If you type something, then down arrow, you will move through a list of suggestions. You wouldn't want suggestions to be automatically read if you have to down arrow through them and they aren't on the line where you are typing.
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Gene -----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 3:56 PM To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who the message is to? |
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David Griffith
This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me
in Outlook. I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent
email I have typed whose name begins with K. Pressing the
down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K.
I wonder if there is a setting in
Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on?
Having said that it is also true that
this feature does not, for me at least, any longer, reveal
results from all your contacts. I often have to go into the to
button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in contacts.
David G.
On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote:
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Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
I have the setting Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions? From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions
This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook. I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K.
I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on? Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in contacts. David G. On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote:
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Gene
I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes.
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From: Dennis L Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I have the setting Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions? From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook. I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K. I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on? Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in contacts. David G. On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote: Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who the message is to? |
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David Griffith
I think there is a setting.
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You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is checked. I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the different behaviour. David G. -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dennis L Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I have the setting Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions? From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook. I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K. I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on? Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in contacts. David G. On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote: Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who the message is to? |
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Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
There is no outlook setting I know of where I have to adjust it for the screen reader to properly read other screen readers read it. so should NVDA.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:40 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I think there is a setting. You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is checked. I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the different behaviour. David G. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dennis L Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I have the setting Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions? From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook. I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K. I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on? Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in contacts. David G. On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote: Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who the message is to? |
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Dan Miner
I have Outlook from Office 365 and if I recall this thread was about the To field and reading the type-ahead suggestion reading? When I was using Outlook 2016, I had this problem of it not reading but I did a bit of testing again on this version. It seems to be working fine with the type ahead for reading the first suggestion and changing as I progress on typing. Also, a simple down arrow will read the remaining suggestions. I don't recall which version you have but I am wondering if that is a factor here.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:28 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions There is no outlook setting I know of where I have to adjust it for the screen reader to properly read other screen readers read it. so should NVDA. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:40 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I think there is a setting. You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is checked. I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the different behaviour. David G. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dennis L Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I have the setting Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions? From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook. I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K. I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on? Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in contacts. David G. On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote: Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who the message is to? |
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Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
I believe it is 2016. This is the version number I got when I used jaws and got the version number.
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Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.13426.20404 -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:43 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I have Outlook from Office 365 and if I recall this thread was about the To field and reading the type-ahead suggestion reading? When I was using Outlook 2016, I had this problem of it not reading but I did a bit of testing again on this version. It seems to be working fine with the type ahead for reading the first suggestion and changing as I progress on typing. Also, a simple down arrow will read the remaining suggestions. I don't recall which version you have but I am wondering if that is a factor here. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:28 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions There is no outlook setting I know of where I have to adjust it for the screen reader to properly read other screen readers read it. so should NVDA. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:40 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I think there is a setting. You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is checked. I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the different behaviour. David G. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dennis L Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I have the setting Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions? From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook. I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K. I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on? Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in contacts. David G. On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote: Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who the message is to? |
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Gene
If my guess is correct, you can read current line as you type and see the address change as you provide more information. Why this isn't read, I don't know, nor do I know if it is a problem on your machine or a general problem. I don't use the program. But at times,, making a minor adjustment to get a screen-reader to do what you want is the best solution. If the problem is general, than you can try to interest developers to try to solve it, if it is important enough for those working on NVDA to do so. But screen-readers working in the complex environments they do, you will always have the possibility of having to cause it to do something.
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Typing a little, then reading the current line, then typing some more is a good work around if that is necessary in this case. Or perhaps down arrowing once, then uparrowing to the line you want read might be better. It would allow you to keep one hand on the keyboared and resuming typing might be easier and faster. Or reading the current object, numpad 8, might be what you might find most convenient. Using the desktop layout, you would only take one hand off the keyboard. I don't know the laptop layout. A certain amount of imperfection may be inevitable and should be expected. Gene -----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:56 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I believe it is 2016. This is the version number I got when I used jaws and got the version number. Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.13426.20404 -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:43 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I have Outlook from Office 365 and if I recall this thread was about the To field and reading the type-ahead suggestion reading? When I was using Outlook 2016, I had this problem of it not reading but I did a bit of testing again on this version. It seems to be working fine with the type ahead for reading the first suggestion and changing as I progress on typing. Also, a simple down arrow will read the remaining suggestions. I don't recall which version you have but I am wondering if that is a factor here. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:28 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions There is no outlook setting I know of where I have to adjust it for the screen reader to properly read other screen readers read it. so should NVDA. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:40 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I think there is a setting. You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is checked. I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the different behaviour. David G. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dennis L Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I have the setting Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions? From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook. I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K. I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on? Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in contacts. David G. On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote: Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who the message is to? |
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Bob Cavanaugh
I just tested this on my copy of Outlook 2016, and yes, it behaves
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differently than I am used to with System Access, but not so differently that I would write to the list on my own about it. With System Access, it does read as I believe the original poster wants, which is that as soon as you start typing, the screen reader started reading the first name that appeared. In NVDA, you have to press down arrow in order to get it to read the suggestions, but it reads all the suggestions as expected. On 12/29/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
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Dan Miner
Well, if it is a 2016 based version then you likely will have the problem of it not reading suggestions easily. I always had to fiddle around with it to get anything. I vaguely remember using object navigation to dive into the enclosing frame It I was truly needing to use that feature, I would just switch to JAWS 18 and it would read in a more natural way. I would give recent Narrator a try and see how it fairs with that dropdown.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 8:57 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I believe it is 2016. This is the version number I got when I used jaws and got the version number. Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.13426.20404 -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:43 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I have Outlook from Office 365 and if I recall this thread was about the To field and reading the type-ahead suggestion reading? When I was using Outlook 2016, I had this problem of it not reading but I did a bit of testing again on this version. It seems to be working fine with the type ahead for reading the first suggestion and changing as I progress on typing. Also, a simple down arrow will read the remaining suggestions. I don't recall which version you have but I am wondering if that is a factor here. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:28 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions There is no outlook setting I know of where I have to adjust it for the screen reader to properly read other screen readers read it. so should NVDA. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:40 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I think there is a setting. You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is checked. I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the different behaviour. David G. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dennis L Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I have the setting Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions? From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook. I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K. I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on? Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in contacts. David G. On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote: Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who the message is to? |
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Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
Does outlook 2019 work better?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 5:28 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions Well, if it is a 2016 based version then you likely will have the problem of it not reading suggestions easily. I always had to fiddle around with it to get anything. I vaguely remember using object navigation to dive into the enclosing frame It I was truly needing to use that feature, I would just switch to JAWS 18 and it would read in a more natural way. I would give recent Narrator a try and see how it fairs with that dropdown. Dan -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 8:57 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I believe it is 2016. This is the version number I got when I used jaws and got the version number. Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.13426.20404 -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:43 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I have Outlook from Office 365 and if I recall this thread was about the To field and reading the type-ahead suggestion reading? When I was using Outlook 2016, I had this problem of it not reading but I did a bit of testing again on this version. It seems to be working fine with the type ahead for reading the first suggestion and changing as I progress on typing. Also, a simple down arrow will read the remaining suggestions. I don't recall which version you have but I am wondering if that is a factor here. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:28 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions There is no outlook setting I know of where I have to adjust it for the screen reader to properly read other screen readers read it. so should NVDA. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:40 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I think there is a setting. You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is checked. I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the different behaviour. David G. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dennis L Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions I have the setting Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions? From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook. I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K. I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on? Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in contacts. David G. On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote: Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who the message is to? |
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Dan Miner
Your version number suggests you have some kind of subscription and Office 365 is the only recent offerings I know of. So, if that is the case you probably just need to login to your Microsoft account (via the File menu using that account management option) and update. I did just that about 2 weeks ago.
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Compared to 2016, the latest Office has been working better in my experiences. Even the calendar is becoming more and more useable. Dan On Dec 29, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Dennis L <dennisl1982@...> wrote: |
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Arlene
Hey, speaking of outlook. If I upgrade from outlook 2010 with my outlook key. Do I have to pay for the upgrade? I don’t care if I do. I am inquiring. Thanks.
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From: Dan Miner via groups.io
Sent: December 29, 2020 10:57 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions
Your version number suggests you have some kind of subscription and Office 365 is the only recent offerings I know of. So, if that is the case you probably just need to login to your Microsoft account (via the File menu using that account management option) and update. I did just that about 2 weeks ago.
Compared to 2016, the latest Office has been working better in my experiences. Even the calendar is becoming more and more useable.
Dan > On Dec 29, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Dennis L <dennisl1982@...> wrote: > > Does outlook 2019 work better? > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via > groups.io > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 5:28 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > Well, if it is a 2016 based version then you likely will have the problem of > it not reading suggestions easily. I always had to fiddle around with it to > get anything. I vaguely remember using object navigation to dive into the > enclosing frame It I was truly needing to use that feature, I would just > switch to JAWS 18 and it would read in a more natural way. I would give > recent Narrator a try and see how it fairs with that dropdown. > > Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 8:57 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > I believe it is 2016. This is the version number I got when I used jaws and > got the version number. > Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.13426.20404 -----Original > Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via > groups.io > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:43 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > I have Outlook from Office 365 and if I recall this thread was about the To > field and reading the type-ahead suggestion reading? When I was using > Outlook 2016, I had this problem of it not reading but I did a bit of > testing again on this version. It seems to be working fine with the type > ahead for reading the first suggestion and changing as I progress on typing. > Also, a simple down arrow will read the remaining suggestions. I don't > recall which version you have but I am wondering if that is a factor here. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:28 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > There is no outlook setting I know of where I have to adjust it for the > screen reader to properly read other screen readers read it. so should > NVDA. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:40 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > > I think there is a setting. > You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find > the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is > checked. > I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the > different behaviour. > David G. > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene > Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39 > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you > have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you > type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the > browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes. > > Gene > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis L > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > > > I have the setting > > Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the > first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe > smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t > read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the > suggestions? > > > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > > > > > This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook. > I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed > > > > whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses > beginning with K. > > > > > > > > I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you > need to turn on? > > > > Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at > least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to > go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in > contacts. > > > > David G. > > > > On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote: > > > > Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the > suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who > the message is to? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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microsoft may know the answer to that one.
On 2020-12-30 2:01 a.m., Arlene wrote:
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Dan Miner
Yes, please inquiry to Microsoft. I just use the products. *smile*
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 12:08 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions
microsoft may know the answer to that one.
On 2020-12-30 2:01 a.m., Arlene wrote:
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Monte Single
If you are shopping for a new version, check out amazon, I go a legal version of 2016 office pro there for about 30 bucks. They send you the key code, and you download the appropriate version from the m s store.In my experience, it is not an upgrade from 2010 to 2016 or any other version, it is a new install full prices apply, others may have a different story.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: December 30, 2020 1:01 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions
Hey, speaking of outlook. If I upgrade from outlook 2010 with my outlook key. Do I have to pay for the upgrade? I don’t care if I do. I am inquiring. Thanks.
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From: Dan Miner via groups.io
Your version number suggests you have some kind of subscription and Office 365 is the only recent offerings I know of. So, if that is the case you probably just need to login to your Microsoft account (via the File menu using that account management option) and update. I did just that about 2 weeks ago.
Compared to 2016, the latest Office has been working better in my experiences. Even the calendar is becoming more and more useable.
Dan > On Dec 29, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Dennis L <dennisl1982@...> wrote: > > Does outlook 2019 work better? > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via > groups.io > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 5:28 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > Well, if it is a 2016 based version then you likely will have the problem of > it not reading suggestions easily. I always had to fiddle around with it to > get anything. I vaguely remember using object navigation to dive into the > enclosing frame It I was truly needing to use that feature, I would just > switch to JAWS 18 and it would read in a more natural way. I would give > recent Narrator a try and see how it fairs with that dropdown. > > Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 8:57 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > I believe it is 2016. This is the version number I got when I used jaws and > got the version number. > Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.13426.20404 -----Original > Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via > groups.io > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:43 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > I have Outlook from Office 365 and if I recall this thread was about the To > field and reading the type-ahead suggestion reading? When I was using > Outlook 2016, I had this problem of it not reading but I did a bit of > testing again on this version. It seems to be working fine with the type > ahead for reading the first suggestion and changing as I progress on typing. > Also, a simple down arrow will read the remaining suggestions. I don't > recall which version you have but I am wondering if that is a factor here. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:28 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > There is no outlook setting I know of where I have to adjust it for the > screen reader to properly read other screen readers read it. so should > NVDA. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:40 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > > I think there is a setting. > You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find > the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is > checked. > I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the > different behaviour. > David G. > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene > Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39 > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you > have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you > type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the > browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes. > > Gene > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis L > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > > > I have the setting > > Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the > first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe > smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t > read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the > suggestions? > > > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions > > > > > > This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook. > I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed > > > > whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses > beginning with K. > > > > > > > > I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you > need to turn on? > > > > Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at > least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to > go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in > contacts. > > > > David G. > > > > On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote: > > > > Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the > suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who > the message is to? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Arlene
I did see that you can use your Microsoft outlook 2010 key. Then I can upgrade to the latest version. I know you can That’s why I was asking if you have to pay.
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From: Dan Miner via groups.io
Sent: December 29, 2020 11:11 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions
Yes, please inquiry to Microsoft. I just use the products. *smile*
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
microsoft may know the answer to that one.
On 2020-12-30 2:01 a.m., Arlene wrote:
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