Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately
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Ramesh Patil
Sir,
I am using NVDA and outlook 2016 with addon outlook extended. But by keystroke ALT + 3 NVDA will announce both To and CC fields of mail together. we can not able to understand which mail id is of CC and which of To field. Addon developer please guide or any other way to listen CC and To fields separately Ramesh Patil
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Ralf Kefferpuetz
Hello,
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There is nothing we can do from an addon perspective, you need to expand the outlook message header. Pls see this link: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_outlook-mso_win10-mso_2016/show-to-and-cc-separately-in-open-message-in/7717805d-141a-4997-a440-0b1579752259?auth=1
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil Sent: Samstag, 2. Januar 2021 09:41 To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Sir, I am using NVDA and outlook 2016 with addon outlook extended. But by keystroke ALT + 3 NVDA will announce both To and CC fields of mail together. we can not able to understand which mail id is of CC and which of To field. Addon developer please guide or any other way to listen CC and To fields separately Ramesh Patil
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Dennis L
Other screen readers have this ability for years. NVDA should also have this ability.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 7:33 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Hello, There is nothing we can do from an addon perspective, you need to expand the outlook message header. Pls see this link: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_outlook-mso_win10-mso_2016/show-to-and-cc-separately-in-open-message-in/7717805d-141a-4997-a440-0b1579752259?auth=1 -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil Sent: Samstag, 2. Januar 2021 09:41 To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Sir, I am using NVDA and outlook 2016 with addon outlook extended. But by keystroke ALT + 3 NVDA will announce both To and CC fields of mail together. we can not able to understand which mail id is of CC and which of To field. Addon developer please guide or any other way to listen CC and To fields separately Ramesh Patil
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I actually disagree. if you can expand both fields per the article then there is no need for nvda to do this. -- Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 2 Jan 2021, at 10:58, Dennis L wrote:
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Gene
I don't know how the add-on works and I don't use Outlook. But what happens if you open a message and start tabbing backwards? See if you start moving through fields such as subject, and other fields including those you want to see.
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Gene
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From: Dennis L Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 12:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Other screen readers have this ability for years. NVDA should also have this ability. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 7:33 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Hello, There is nothing we can do from an addon perspective, you need to expand the outlook message header. Pls see this link: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_outlook-mso_win10-mso_2016/show-to-and-cc-separately-in-open-message-in/7717805d-141a-4997-a440-0b1579752259?auth=1 -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil Sent: Samstag, 2. Januar 2021 09:41 To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Sir, I am using NVDA and outlook 2016 with addon outlook extended. But by keystroke ALT + 3 NVDA will announce both To and CC fields of mail together. we can not able to understand which mail id is of CC and which of To field. Addon developer please guide or any other way to listen CC and To fields separately Ramesh Patil
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Gene
As I recall, the Thunderbird add-on has four commands for the fields to be read all separately, to, from, cc, and bcc.
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I disagree with your assertion on grounds of efficiency. It is slower to shift tab back to the fields in question, then tab back to the document. Sighted people can just look at the fields. Why shouldn't blind people have a command that reads the one desired? I think its good to know how to move through the fields whether you know screen-reader commands or not but that's a different question. Gene
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From: Sarah k Alawami Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 1:24 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately I actually disagree. if you can expand both fields per the article then there is no need for nvda to do this. -- Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here On 2 Jan 2021, at 10:58, Dennis L wrote: Other screen readers have this ability for years. NVDA should also have this ability. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 7:33 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Hello, There is nothing we can do from an addon perspective, you need to expand the outlook message header. Pls see this link: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_outlook-mso_win10-mso_2016/show-to-and-cc-separately-in-open-message-in/7717805d-141a-4997-a440-0b1579752259?auth=1 -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil Sent: Samstag, 2. Januar 2021 09:41 To: nvda nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Sir, I am using NVDA and outlook 2016 with addon outlook extended. But by keystroke ALT + 3 NVDA will announce both To and CC fields of mail together. we can not able to understand which mail id is of CC and which of To field. Addon developer please guide or any other way to listen CC and To fields separately Ramesh Patil
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It's not necessarily slower per-say depending on how quickly you have things set up. I can read at over 2-300 wpm so for me it is faster for me to back tab and tab etc. -- Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 2 Jan 2021, at 11:54, Gene wrote:
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Dennis L
I agree.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 2:55 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately As I recall, the Thunderbird add-on has four commands for the fields to be read all separately, to, from, cc, and bcc. I disagree with your assertion on grounds of efficiency. It is slower to shift tab back to the fields in question, then tab back to the document. Sighted people can just look at the fields. Why shouldn't blind people have a command that reads the one desired? I think its good to know how to move through the fields whether you know screen-reader commands or not but that's a different question. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 1:24 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately I actually disagree. if you can expand both fields per the article then there is no need for nvda to do this. -- Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here On 2 Jan 2021, at 10:58, Dennis L wrote: Other screen readers have this ability for years. NVDA should also have this ability. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 7:33 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Hello, There is nothing we can do from an addon perspective, you need to expand the outlook message header. Pls see this link: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_outlook-mso_win1 0-mso_2016/show-to-and-cc-separately-in-open-message-in/7717805d-141a-4997-a 440-0b1579752259?auth=1 -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil Sent: Samstag, 2. Januar 2021 09:41 To: nvda nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Sir, I am using NVDA and outlook 2016 with addon outlook extended. But by keystroke ALT + 3 NVDA will announce both To and CC fields of mail together. we can not able to understand which mail id is of CC and which of To field. Addon developer please guide or any other way to listen CC and To fields separately Ramesh Patil
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Ralf Kefferpuetz
Guys, was there anything unclear in my earlier response? Expand the header fields in Outlook once and the addon reads all the fields as required. Such simpel...
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Samstag, 2. Januar 2021 20:25 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately I don't know how the add-on works and I don't use Outlook. But what happens if you open a message and start tabbing backwards? See if you start moving through fields such as subject, and other fields including those you want to see. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dennis L Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 12:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Other screen readers have this ability for years. NVDA should also have this ability. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 7:33 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Hello, There is nothing we can do from an addon perspective, you need to expand the outlook message header. Pls see this link: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_outlook-mso_win10-mso_2016/show-to-and-cc-separately-in-open-message-in/7717805d-141a-4997-a440-0b1579752259?auth=1 -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil Sent: Samstag, 2. Januar 2021 09:41 To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Sir, I am using NVDA and outlook 2016 with addon outlook extended. But by keystroke ALT + 3 NVDA will announce both To and CC fields of mail together. we can not able to understand which mail id is of CC and which of To field. Addon developer please guide or any other way to listen CC and To fields separately Ramesh Patil
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Ramesh Patil
Expand the header solves the issues. Thank you so much
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 3:33 PM Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote: Guys, was there anything unclear in my earlier response? Expand the header fields in Outlook once and the addon reads all the fields as required. Such simpel...
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Ramesh Patil
Another issue I am facing that NVDA not announcing suggestions of email IDs in To and Cc fields. Pls clear
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 12:59 PM Ramesh Patil via groups.io <ramesh.patil1989=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
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anthony borg
Hi Can you please explain to me how to expand the header? Thanks in advance
Anthony
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil
Sent: 04 January 2021 08:29 To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately
Expand the header solves the issues. Thank you so much
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 3:33 PM Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:
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Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Anthony,
Just press shift + tab in an open message with the cursor in the message body and you will land on the “Expand Header” button.
All the best,
Cearbhall
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of anthony borg
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 12:33 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately
Hi Can you please explain to me how to expand the header? Thanks in advance
Anthony
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil
Expand the header solves the issues. Thank you so much
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 3:33 PM Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:
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Gene
Whether the issue is corrected, have you tried the read current line as you type? I don't know if you are using the laptop or desktop layout and I don't know the laptop layout, but using the desktop layout, it may be more convenient to use the read current line of object command, numpad 8. You may well hear whatever is being suggested on that line and if it changes as you continue to type. If you down arrow to hear other suggestions, are they announced automatically?
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Gene
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From: Ramesh Patil Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 2:34 AM To: nvda Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Another issue I am facing that NVDA not announcing suggestions of email IDs in To and Cc fields. Pls clear On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 12:59 PM Ramesh Patil via groups.io <ramesh.patil1989=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote: Expand the header solves the issues. Thank you so much On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 3:33 PM Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote: Guys, was there anything unclear in my earlier response? Expand the header fields in Outlook once and the addon reads all the fields as required. Such simpel... -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Samstag, 2. Januar 2021 20:25 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately I don't know how the add-on works and I don't use Outlook. But what happens if you open a message and start tabbing backwards? See if you start moving through fields such as subject, and other fields including those you want to see. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dennis L Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2021 12:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Other screen readers have this ability for years. NVDA should also have this ability. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 7:33 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Hello, There is nothing we can do from an addon perspective, you need to expand the outlook message header. Pls see this link: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_outlook-mso_win10-mso_2016/show-to-and-cc-separately-in-open-message-in/7717805d-141a-4997-a440-0b1579752259?auth=1 -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil Sent: Samstag, 2. Januar 2021 09:41 To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately Sir, I am using NVDA and outlook 2016 with addon outlook extended. But by keystroke ALT + 3 NVDA will announce both To and CC fields of mail together. we can not able to understand which mail id is of CC and which of To field. Addon developer please guide or any other way to listen CC and To fields separately Ramesh Patil
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Ralf Kefferpuetz
This is a known problem with Office 2016 which does not occur with Office 365. Here are the bugs, I suggest to add yourcomment on the second open issue. https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10953 https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8502
cheers, Ralf
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil
Sent: Montag, 4. Januar 2021 09:34 To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 NVDA not announcing To & CC fields separately
Another issue I am facing that NVDA not announcing suggestions of email IDs in To and Cc fields. Pls clear
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 12:59 PM Ramesh Patil via groups.io <ramesh.patil1989=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
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