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New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
 

I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly, tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA.  None of the shortcut keys that I previously used would work.  I received a call from a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it, because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless, as were all other previous shortcut keys.  What is the solution to this problem.  I totally uninstalled Skype for now.  Do we give up on Skype as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat program?

--
Rich De Steno


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

--
Rich De Steno


Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

-- Rich De Steno






Iván Novegil
 

If that link doesn't work, you have also https://go.skype.com/classic.skype

This is usefull also for MacOS users (link has OS detection).


Regards.

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O 06/01/2018 á(s) 17:39, Marten Post Uiterweer escribiu:

Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

-- Rich De Steno






Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype. Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't prefer it.


I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of the classic version, that would be fantastic!


On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists@...> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
 I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

-- Rich De Steno










-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Seeing I'm also a heavy Mac user, this is great! Thanks as well for this link.


On 1/6/2018 12:53 PM, iván Novegil wrote:
If that link doesn't work, you have also https://go.skype.com/classic.skype

This is usefull also for MacOS users (link has OS detection).


Regards.

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O 06/01/2018 á(s) 17:39, Marten Post Uiterweer escribiu:
Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists@...> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
  I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
  Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

-- Rich De Steno















-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


Iván Novegil
 

Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with windows10.

Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could install 7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10 without problems some weeks ago.


Regards.

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O 06/01/2018 á(s) 23:54, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribiu:

Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype. Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't prefer it.


I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of the classic version, that would be fantastic!


On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists@...> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
 I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

-- Rich De Steno









-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

So then, I guess my next question would be how to uninstall the universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the rescue. LOL!


On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:

Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with windows10.

Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could install 7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10 without problems some weeks ago.


Regards.

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O 06/01/2018 á(s) 23:54, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribiu:

Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype. Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't prefer it.


I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of the classic version, that would be fantastic!


On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists@...> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
 I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

-- Rich De Steno








-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


Jason White
 

You could also try https://web.skype.com/

 

In some browsers, no plug-in is required. I haven’t tested it extensively.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

 

Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype. Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't prefer it.

 

I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of the classic version, that would be fantastic!

 

On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:

Rich,
 
Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full
 
Regards, Marten
 
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists@...> wrote:
 
I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
 I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
 Brian
 
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!
 
 
I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?
 
-- Rich De Steno
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Yeah, that's what I have to do with my Linux box, due to certain circumstances, but that's not for this list. LOL! I am aware of the site though. Thanks for the suggestion.


On 1/6/2018 8:21 PM, Jason White via Groups.Io wrote:

You could also try https://web.skype.com/

 

In some browsers, no plug-in is required. I haven’t tested it extensively.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 5:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

 

Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype. Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't prefer it.

 

I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of the classic version, that would be fantastic!

 

On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:

Rich,
 
Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full
 
Regards, Marten
 
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists@...> wrote:
 
I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
 I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
 Brian
 
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!
 
 
I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?
 
-- Rich De Steno
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401

-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
 

The same way you uninstall any program:

Press your Windows key and type remove

Arrow down to "Add and Remove Programs and press Enter

Arrow down to Skype in the list of programs

Press your applications key and arrow down to remove and press Enter



On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So then, I guess my next question would be how to uninstall the universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the rescue. LOL!


On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:

Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with windows10.

Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could install 7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10 without problems some weeks ago.


Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editor
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O 06/01/2018 á(s) 23:54, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribiu:

Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype. Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't prefer it.


I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of the classic version, that would be fantastic!


On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists@...> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
 I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

-- Rich De Steno







          

-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401

-- 
Rich De Steno


Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

OK, I didn't think it worked that way for universal apps.


I'll give it a try.


On 1/6/2018 8:58 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:

The same way you uninstall any program:

Press your Windows key and type remove

Arrow down to "Add and Remove Programs and press Enter

Arrow down to Skype in the list of programs

Press your applications key and arrow down to remove and press Enter



On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So then, I guess my next question would be how to uninstall the universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the rescue. LOL!


On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:

Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with windows10.

Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could install 7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10 without problems some weeks ago.


Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas
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O 06/01/2018 á(s) 23:54, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribiu:

Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype. Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't prefer it.


I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of the classic version, that would be fantastic!


On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists@...> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
 I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

-- Rich De Steno







-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401

-- 
Rich De Steno

-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Awesome. It's gone. Thanks. I'll go install the classic version here in a bit.


On 1/6/2018 9:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I didn't think it worked that way for universal apps.


I'll give it a try.


On 1/6/2018 8:58 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:

The same way you uninstall any program:

Press your Windows key and type remove

Arrow down to "Add and Remove Programs and press Enter

Arrow down to Skype in the list of programs

Press your applications key and arrow down to remove and press Enter



On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So then, I guess my next question would be how to uninstall the universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the rescue. LOL!


On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:

Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with windows10.

Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could install 7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10 without problems some weeks ago.


Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editor
ivan.novegil@...

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- www.NVDA.es

Usuario do NVDA en galego

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O 06/01/2018 á(s) 23:54, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribiu:

Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype. Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't prefer it.


I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of the classic version, that would be fantastic!


On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists@...> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
 I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

-- Rich De Steno







-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401

-- 
Rich De Steno

-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401

-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Can you still tab around Skype like normal, though? I'm curious, because I've never really used keyboard shortcuts. Just menus and tabbing between options.


On 7/01/2018 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Awesome. It's gone. Thanks. I'll go install the classic version here in a bit.


On 1/6/2018 9:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I didn't think it worked that way for universal apps.


I'll give it a try.


On 1/6/2018 8:58 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:

The same way you uninstall any program:

Press your Windows key and type remove

Arrow down to "Add and Remove Programs and press Enter

Arrow down to Skype in the list of programs

Press your applications key and arrow down to remove and press Enter



On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So then, I guess my next question would be how to uninstall the universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the rescue. LOL!


On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:

Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with windows10.

Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could install 7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10 without problems some weeks ago.


Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editor
ivan.novegil@...

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- www.NVDA.es

Usuario do NVDA en galego

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O 06/01/2018 á(s) 23:54, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribiu:

Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype. Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't prefer it.


I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of the classic version, that would be fantastic!


On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists@...> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
 I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

-- Rich De Steno







-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401

-- 
Rich De Steno

-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401

-- 
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


John Isige
 

You can also hit windows-x. Applications and features is the first
thing. Pick that. Tab to the list, get to skype, not skype classic but
the other one, hit enter to expand, and tab to uninstall.

On 1/6/2018 20:24, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Awesome. It's gone. Thanks. I'll go install the classic version here
in a bit.


On 1/6/2018 9:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I didn't think it worked that way for universal apps.


I'll give it a try.


On 1/6/2018 8:58 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:

The same way you uninstall any program:

Press your Windows key and type remove

Arrow down to "Add and Remove Programs and press Enter

Arrow down to Skype in the list of programs

Press your applications key and arrow down to remove and press Enter



On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So then, I guess my next question would be how to uninstall the
universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the
rescue. LOL!


On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:

Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with windows10.

Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could install 7.x
(version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10 without
problems some weeks ago.


Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editor
@inovegil

Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
-www.NVDA.es

Usuario do NVDA en galego

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O 06/01/2018 á(s) 23:54, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribiu:

Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as
well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype.
Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't
prefer it.


I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem
to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get
that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of
the classic version, that would be fantastic!


On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno"<ironrock@...>
To:<nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

-- Rich De Steno





--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401
--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401
--
Rich De Steno
--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401
--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


John Isige
 

In the new Windows app thing? Sure. In fact I think it's the only way to
use it really.

On 1/6/2018 20:28, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

Can you still tab around Skype like normal, though? I'm curious,
because I've never really used keyboard shortcuts. Just menus and
tabbing between options.


On 7/01/2018 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Awesome. It's gone. Thanks. I'll go install the classic version here
in a bit.


On 1/6/2018 9:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I didn't think it worked that way for universal apps.


I'll give it a try.


On 1/6/2018 8:58 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:

The same way you uninstall any program:

Press your Windows key and type remove

Arrow down to "Add and Remove Programs and press Enter

Arrow down to Skype in the list of programs

Press your applications key and arrow down to remove and press Enter



On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So then, I guess my next question would be how to uninstall the
universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the
rescue. LOL!


On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:

Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with windows10.

Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could install
7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10
without problems some weeks ago.


Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editor
@inovegil

Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
-www.NVDA.es

Usuario do NVDA en galego

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O 06/01/2018 á(s) 23:54, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribiu:

Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as
well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype.
Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't
prefer it.


I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem
to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get
that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of
the classic version, that would be fantastic!


On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno"<ironrock@...>
To:<nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

-- Rich De Steno





--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401
--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401
--
Rich De Steno
--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401
--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

True. I totally forgot about windows+X. Thanks for that reminder.


On 1/6/2018 9:51 PM, John Isige wrote:
You can also hit windows-x. Applications and features is the first
thing. Pick that. Tab to the list, get to skype, not skype classic but
the other one, hit enter to expand, and tab to uninstall.


On 1/6/2018 20:24, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Awesome. It's gone. Thanks. I'll go install the classic version here
in a bit.


On 1/6/2018 9:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I didn't think it worked that way for universal apps.


I'll give it a try.


On 1/6/2018 8:58 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:

The same way you uninstall any program:

Press your Windows key and type remove

Arrow down to "Add and Remove Programs and press Enter

Arrow down to Skype in the list of programs

Press your applications key and arrow down to remove and press Enter



On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So then, I guess my next question would be how to uninstall the
universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the
rescue. LOL!


On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:

Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with windows10.

Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could install 7.x
(version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10 without
problems some weeks ago.


Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editor
ivan.novegil@...

Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
-www.NVDA.es

Usuario do NVDA en galego

***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***
O 06/01/2018 á(s) 23:54, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribiu:

Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as
well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype.
Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't
prefer it.


I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem
to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get
that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of
the classic version, that would be fantastic!


On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype classic
version from this link: If you do not remove the old installation, you
will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"<bglists@...>  wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
  I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
  Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De Steno"<ironrock@...>
To:<nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years. Suddenly,
tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered Skype, a new version was
forcibly installed, something like Version 8.1.2, and it presented me
with an interface that I could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the
shortcut keys that I previously used would work. I received a call from
a friend right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call was useless,
as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is the solution to this
problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?

-- Rich De Steno







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Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


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http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401

--
Rich De Steno

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http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401

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http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401






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(980) 500-9575X401


JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

That's such a slugish and obnoxious way to navigate a programme, really. Come on Microsoft.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: January 6, 2018 9:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

In the new Windows app thing? Sure. In fact I think it's the only way to use it really.


On 1/6/2018 20:28, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

Can you still tab around Skype like normal, though? I'm curious,
because I've never really used keyboard shortcuts. Just menus and
tabbing between options.


On 7/01/2018 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Awesome. It's gone. Thanks. I'll go install the classic version here
in a bit.


On 1/6/2018 9:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I didn't think it worked that way for universal apps.


I'll give it a try.


On 1/6/2018 8:58 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:

The same way you uninstall any program:

Press your Windows key and type remove

Arrow down to "Add and Remove Programs and press Enter

Arrow down to Skype in the list of programs

Press your applications key and arrow down to remove and press
Enter



On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So then, I guess my next question would be how to uninstall the
universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the
rescue. LOL!


On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:

Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with windows10.

Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could install
7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10
without problems some weeks ago.


Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editor
@inovegil

Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es -www.NVDA.es

Usuario do NVDA en galego

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Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as
well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype.
Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't
prefer it.


I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem
to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get
that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of
the classic version, that would be fantastic!


On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype
classic version from this link: If you do not remove the old
installation, you will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:- briang1@...,
putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De
Steno"<ironrock@...> To:<nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years.
Suddenly, tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered
Skype, a new version was forcibly installed, something like
Version 8.1.2, and it presented me with an interface that I
could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the shortcut keys that
I previously used would work. I received a call from a friend
right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call
was useless, as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is
the solution to this problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for
now. Do we give up on Skype as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat program?

-- Rich De Steno





--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401
--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401
--
Rich De Steno
--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401
--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


 

Hi,
Skype universal app does have shortcut keys, such as Alt+1 to go to conversations, Alt+2 for contacts, Alt+3 for bots and so on).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 6:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

That's such a slugish and obnoxious way to navigate a programme, really. Come on Microsoft.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: January 6, 2018 9:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

In the new Windows app thing? Sure. In fact I think it's the only way to use it really.


On 1/6/2018 20:28, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

Can you still tab around Skype like normal, though? I'm curious,
because I've never really used keyboard shortcuts. Just menus and
tabbing between options.


On 7/01/2018 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Awesome. It's gone. Thanks. I'll go install the classic version here
in a bit.


On 1/6/2018 9:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

OK, I didn't think it worked that way for universal apps.


I'll give it a try.


On 1/6/2018 8:58 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:

The same way you uninstall any program:

Press your Windows key and type remove

Arrow down to "Add and Remove Programs and press Enter

Arrow down to Skype in the list of programs

Press your applications key and arrow down to remove and press
Enter



On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So then, I guess my next question would be how to uninstall the
universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the
rescue. LOL!


On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:

Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with windows10.

Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could install
7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10
without problems some weeks ago.


Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editor
@inovegil

Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es -www.NVDA.es

Usuario do NVDA en galego

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Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as
well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype.
Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't
prefer it.


I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem
to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get
that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of
the classic version, that would be fantastic!


On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,

Remove your current skype installation and install the skype
classic version from this link: If you do not remove the old
installation, you will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Regards, Marten

On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:- briang1@...,
putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De
Steno"<ironrock@...> To:<nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years.
Suddenly, tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered
Skype, a new version was forcibly installed, something like
Version 8.1.2, and it presented me with an interface that I
could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the shortcut keys that
I previously used would work. I received a call from a friend
right after this forced installation and could not answer it,
because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call
was useless, as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is
the solution to this problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for
now. Do we give up on Skype as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat program?

-- Rich De Steno





--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401
--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401
--
Rich De Steno
--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401
--
Christopher Gilland
Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministries.org
(980) 500-9575X401


David Moore
 

I use the universal Skype app all the time. Tabbing three or four times, is not that bad, along with some key commands. I can find what I want quicker than I can with the desktop program. NVDA really works well with the Skype app. That is awesome.

Have a great one, guys!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 10:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

 

Hi,

Skype universal app does have shortcut keys, such as Alt+1 to go to conversations, Alt+2 for contacts, Alt+3 for bots and so on).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey

Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 6:56 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

 

That's such a slugish and obnoxious way to navigate a programme, really. Come on Microsoft.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige

Sent: January 6, 2018 9:52 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

 

In the new Windows app thing? Sure. In fact I think it's the only way to use it really.

 

 

On 1/6/2018 20:28, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

> Can you still tab around Skype like normal, though? I'm curious,

> because I've never really used keyboard shortcuts. Just menus and

> tabbing between options.

> On 7/01/2018 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

>> 

>> Awesome. It's gone. Thanks. I'll go install the classic version here

>> in a bit.

>> 

>> 

>> On 1/6/2018 9:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

>>> 

>>> OK, I didn't think it worked that way for universal apps.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> I'll give it a try.

>>> 

>>> 

>>> On 1/6/2018 8:58 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> The same way you uninstall any program:

>>>> 

>>>> Press your Windows key and type remove

>>>> 

>>>> Arrow down to "Add and Remove Programs and press Enter

>>>> 

>>>> Arrow down to Skype in the list of programs

>>>> 

>>>> Press your applications key and arrow down to remove and press

>>>> Enter

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

>>>>> 

>>>>> So then, I guess my next question would be how to uninstall the

>>>>> universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the

>>>>> rescue. LOL!

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with windows10.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could install

>>>>>> 7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10

>>>>>> without problems some weeks ago.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Regards.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Iván Novegil Cancelas

>>>>>> Editor

>>>>>> ivan.novegil@...

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es -www.NVDA.es

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Usuario do NVDA en galego

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> ***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter

>>>>>> información privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta mensaxe e/ou dos seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do destinatario agás autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.*** O 06/01/2018 á(s) 23:54, Christopher-Mark Gilland escribiu:

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with Windows 10 as

>>>>>>> well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of Skype.

>>>>>>> Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely don't

>>>>>>> prefer it.

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people seem

>>>>>>> to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I can get

>>>>>>> that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10, and get rid of

>>>>>>> the classic version, that would be fantastic!

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:

>>>>>>>> Rich,

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> Remove your current skype installation and install the skype

>>>>>>>> classic version from this link: If you do not remove the old

>>>>>>>> installation, you will get two skype versions after installation of the classic version.

>>>>>>>> http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> Regards, Marten

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>> On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:32:53 -0000 "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"<bglists@...>  wrote:

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> I've never had it force an update on windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.

>>>>>>>>>   I'm not sure how one gets the old version.

>>>>>>>>> However there does seem to have been a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.

>>>>>>>>>   Brian

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> bglists@...

>>>>>>>>> Sent via blueyonder.

>>>>>>>>> Please address personal email to:- briang1@...,

>>>>>>>>> putting 'Brian Gaff'

>>>>>>>>> in the display name field.

>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich De

>>>>>>>>> Steno"<ironrock@...> To:<nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 5:42 AM

>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years.

>>>>>>>>> Suddenly, tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I entered

>>>>>>>>> Skype, a new version was forcibly installed, something like

>>>>>>>>> Version 8.1.2, and it presented me with an interface that I

>>>>>>>>> could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the shortcut keys that

>>>>>>>>> I previously used would work. I received a call from a friend

>>>>>>>>> right after this forced installation and could not answer it,

>>>>>>>>> because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for answering a call

>>>>>>>>> was useless, as were all other previous shortcut keys. What is

>>>>>>>>> the solution to this problem. I totally uninstalled Skype for

>>>>>>>>> now. Do we give up on Skype as NVDA users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat program?

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> -- Rich De Steno

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Christopher Gilland

>>>>>>> Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

>>>>>>> http://www.gshministries.org

>>>>>>> (980) 500-9575X401

>>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> --

>>>>> Christopher Gilland

>>>>> Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

>>>>> http://www.gshministries.org

>>>>> (980) 500-9575X401

>>>> 

>>>> --

>>>> Rich De Steno

>>> 

>>> --

>>> Christopher Gilland

>>> Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

>>> http://www.gshministries.org

>>> (980) 500-9575X401

>> 

>> --

>> Christopher Gilland

>> Co-Founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

>> http://www.gshministries.org

>> (980) 500-9575X401

>