I received permission from Nimer regarding the following letter: Hello NVDA community, First, I hope you are staying safe and healthy. One day in early 2012, I came across a question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine years: translations, writing documentation, founding an international gathering of a community, releasing countless add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from the community, and that golden opportunity has come: On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in communication studies at California State University, Los Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude) from the same university. After observing discussions between graduate students and thinking about balancing between graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA code contributions, I decided that school should take highest of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and public speaking coach. Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means: - I do have work to finish which might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull requests.
- I’m handing over most of my add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is needed until NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10 ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development from time to time.
- For NVDACon attendees and organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot) participate in NVDACon for a while.
- For add-ons community, I will be stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s: - Mick and Jamie: for starting it all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a movement, which endures today.
- NV Access staff, past and present: so many discussions, teaching me about life, programming, and group work.
- Mesar Hameed: for teaching me about NVDA translation process and making sure community add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013.
- Many NvDA users and enthusiasts in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean blindness community and help formulating strategies on translations and outreach nine years ago.
- Many translators: for helping me adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator in 2012.
- Thousands of users: for teaching me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and countless other venues.
- Nimer and NVDA Users list moderators, past and present: many collaborations and helpful advice.
- For users of my add-ons: countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were destroyed after analyses because they contain private information), and so many other things that made add-ons useful to this day.
- NVDA supporters outside this forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support.
- Microsoft engineers and fellow Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn from.
- Folks from Mozilla, Google, and other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors: listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull requests without listening to what others have to say. Before writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users. Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people online. Although I’m retiring as a code contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what not. Before I close, I would like to take this time to invite resident high school and college students to invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others to advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments. What strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament. Advocacy will be important, especially as the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks: virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics, web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade people about baking accessibility into products. Right now, there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to coach public speaking events (see the message header for contact email); this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users list, but also in other communities). Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy. Sincerely, Joseph S. Lee NVDA Certified Expert, 2019 Volunteer translator, code contributor, and add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to September 2021) Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016) Member, NVDA Council Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to 2016)
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dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
I hope all goes well for you in the future.
As a new member on this list I have already learned a lot especially in respect of using nvda with a braille focus display.
Kind regards,
Dennis huckle.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 10 May 2021 10:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Farewell, NVDA community: retiring from NVDA contributions, effective September 1, 2021
I received permission from Nimer regarding the following letter:
Hello NVDA community,
First, I hope you are staying safe and healthy.
One day in early 2012, I came across a question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span
nine years: translations, writing documentation, founding an international gathering of a community, releasing countless add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the community in the next
chapter of my life. In the midst of contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from the community, and that golden opportunity has come:
On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in communication studies at California State University, Los Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude)
from the same university.
After observing discussions between graduate students and thinking about balancing between graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA code contributions, I decided that school should take highest of
highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love programming and contributing
to NVDA community, I cannot forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and public speaking coach.
Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means:
- I do have work to finish which might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull requests.
- I’m handing over most of my add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on
Updater is needed until NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10 ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development from time to time.
- For NVDACon attendees and organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot) participate in NVDACon for a while.
- For add-ons community, I will be stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s:
- Mick and Jamie: for starting it all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a movement, which endures today.
- NV Access staff, past and present: so many discussions, teaching me about life, programming, and group work.
- Mesar Hameed: for teaching me about NVDA translation process and making sure community add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013.
- Many NvDA users and enthusiasts in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean blindness community and help formulating strategies on translations and
outreach nine years ago.
- Many translators: for helping me adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator in 2012.
- Thousands of users: for teaching me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and countless other venues.
- Nimer and NVDA Users list moderators, past and present: many collaborations and helpful advice.
- For users of my add-ons: countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were destroyed after analyses because they contain private information), and so many other
things that made add-ons useful to this day.
- NVDA supporters outside this forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support.
- Microsoft engineers and fellow Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn from.
- Folks from Mozilla, Google, and other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors: listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull requests without listening to what others have to say. Before writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with
users. Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people online.
Although I’m retiring as a code contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility advocacy,
programming in general, public speaking, and what not.
Before I close, I would like to take this time to invite resident high school and college students to invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others
to advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments. What strengthened my own advocacy
skills was competing in speech tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament.
Advocacy will be important, especially as the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks: virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics, web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and college
students, you are in a place to inform and persuade people about baking accessibility into products. Right now, there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely ask you to change the
big picture. I’m willing to coach public speaking events (see the message header for contact email); this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any blind high school or college student
(not only on NVDA Users list, but also in other communities).
Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer
code contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy.
Sincerely,
Joseph S. Lee
NVDA Certified Expert, 2019
Volunteer translator, code contributor, and add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to September 2021)
Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016)
Member, NVDA Council
Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to 2016)
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Hello Joseph,
Congratx on your new assignment! I have learned to know and appreciate your work over all these nine years, and I take the liberty to say here, publicly, that I believe you deserve that "golden opportunity" that has been offered to you.
We'll miss you, but you deserve it all.
Blessings, stay safe!
Ollie
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On 10/05/2021 11:48, Joseph Lee wrote: I received permission from Nimer regarding the following letter:
Hello NVDA community,
First, I hope you are staying safe and healthy.
One day in early 2012, I came across a question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine years: translations, writing documentation, founding an international gathering of a community, releasing countless add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from the community, and that golden opportunity has come:
On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in communication studies at California State University, Los Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude) from the same university.
After observing discussions between graduate students and thinking about balancing between graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA code contributions, I decided that school should take highest of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and public speaking coach.
Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means:
* I do have work to finish which might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull requests. * I’m handing over most of my add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is needed until NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10 ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development from time to time. * For NVDACon attendees and organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot) participate in NVDACon for a while. * For add-ons community, I will be stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s:
* Mick and Jamie: for starting it all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a movement, which endures today. * NV Access staff, past and present: so many discussions, teaching me about life, programming, and group work. * Mesar Hameed: for teaching me about NVDA translation process and making sure community add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013. * Many NvDA users and enthusiasts in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean blindness community and help formulating strategies on translations and outreach nine years ago. * Many translators: for helping me adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator in 2012. * Thousands of users: for teaching me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and countless other venues. * Nimer and NVDA Users list moderators, past and present: many collaborations and helpful advice. * For users of my add-ons: countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were destroyed after analyses because they contain private information), and so many other things that made add-ons useful to this day. * NVDA supporters outside this forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support. * Microsoft engineers and fellow Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn from. * Folks from Mozilla, Google, and other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors: listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull requests without listening to what others have to say. Before writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users. Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people online.
Although I’m retiring as a code contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what not.
Before I close, I would like to take this time to invite resident high school and college students to invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others to advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments. What strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament.
Advocacy will be important, especially as the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks: virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics, web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade people about baking accessibility into products. Right now, there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to coach public speaking events (see the message header for contact email); this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users list, but also in other communities).
Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy.
Sincerely,
Joseph S. Lee
NVDA Certified Expert, 2019
Volunteer translator, code contributor, and add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to September 2021)
Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016)
Member, NVDA Council
Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to 2016)
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Thank you for all of your contributions and love of this great community!
Take care, Blaster
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On 5/10/21, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote: Hello Joseph,
Congratx on your new assignment! I have learned to know and appreciate your work over all these nine years, and I take the liberty to say here, publicly, that I believe you deserve that "golden opportunity" that has been offered to you.
We'll miss you, but you deserve it all.
Blessings, stay safe!
Ollie
On 10/05/2021 11:48, Joseph Lee wrote:
I received permission from Nimer regarding the following letter:
Hello NVDA community,
First, I hope you are staying safe and healthy.
One day in early 2012, I came across a question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine years: translations, writing documentation, founding an international gathering of a community, releasing countless add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from the community, and that golden opportunity has come:
On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in communication studies at California State University, Los Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude) from the same university.
After observing discussions between graduate students and thinking about balancing between graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA code contributions, I decided that school should take highest of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and public speaking coach.
Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means:
* I do have work to finish which might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull requests. * I’m handing over most of my add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is needed until NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10 ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development from time to time. * For NVDACon attendees and organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot) participate in NVDACon for a while. * For add-ons community, I will be stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s:
* Mick and Jamie: for starting it all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a movement, which endures today. * NV Access staff, past and present: so many discussions, teaching me about life, programming, and group work. * Mesar Hameed: for teaching me about NVDA translation process and making sure community add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013. * Many NvDA users and enthusiasts in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean blindness community and help formulating strategies on translations and outreach nine years ago. * Many translators: for helping me adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator in 2012. * Thousands of users: for teaching me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and countless other venues. * Nimer and NVDA Users list moderators, past and present: many collaborations and helpful advice. * For users of my add-ons: countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were destroyed after analyses because they contain private information), and so many other things that made add-ons useful to this day. * NVDA supporters outside this forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support. * Microsoft engineers and fellow Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn from. * Folks from Mozilla, Google, and other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors: listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull requests without listening to what others have to say. Before writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users. Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people online.
Although I’m retiring as a code contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what not.
Before I close, I would like to take this time to invite resident high school and college students to invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others to advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments. What strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament.
Advocacy will be important, especially as the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks: virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics, web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade people about baking accessibility into products. Right now, there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to coach public speaking events (see the message header for contact email); this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users list, but also in other communities).
Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy.
Sincerely,
Joseph S. Lee
NVDA Certified Expert, 2019
Volunteer translator, code contributor, and add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to September 2021)
Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016)
Member, NVDA Council
Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to 2016)
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Hi Joseph, I wish you all the best in all your future endeavors.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 5:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Farewell, NVDA community: retiring from NVDA contributions, effective September 1, 2021 I received permission from Nimer regarding the following letter: Hello NVDA community, First, I hope you are staying safe and healthy. One day in early 2012, I came across a question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine years: translations, writing documentation, founding an international gathering of a community, releasing countless add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from the community, and that golden opportunity has come: On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in communication studies at California State University, Los Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude) from the same university. After observing discussions between graduate students and thinking about balancing between graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA code contributions, I decided that school should take highest of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and public speaking coach. Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means: - I do have work to finish which might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull requests.
- I’m handing over most of my add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is needed until NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10 ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development from time to time.
- For NVDACon attendees and organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot) participate in NVDACon for a while.
- For add-ons community, I will be stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s: - Mick and Jamie: for starting it all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a movement, which endures today.
- NV Access staff, past and present: so many discussions, teaching me about life, programming, and group work.
- Mesar Hameed: for teaching me about NVDA translation process and making sure community add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013.
- Many NvDA users and enthusiasts in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean blindness community and help formulating strategies on translations and outreach nine years ago.
- Many translators: for helping me adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator in 2012.
- Thousands of users: for teaching me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and countless other venues.
- Nimer and NVDA Users list moderators, past and present: many collaborations and helpful advice.
- For users of my add-ons: countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were destroyed after analyses because they contain private information), and so many other things that made add-ons useful to this day.
- NVDA supporters outside this forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support.
- Microsoft engineers and fellow Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn from.
- Folks from Mozilla, Google, and other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors: listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull requests without listening to what others have to say. Before writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users. Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people online. Although I’m retiring as a code contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what not. Before I close, I would like to take this time to invite resident high school and college students to invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others to advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments. What strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament. Advocacy will be important, especially as the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks: virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics, web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade people about baking accessibility into products. Right now, there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to coach public speaking events (see the message header for contact email); this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users list, but also in other communities). Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy. Sincerely, Joseph S. Lee NVDA Certified Expert, 2019 Volunteer translator, code contributor, and add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to September 2021) Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016) Member, NVDA Council Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to 2016)
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Your work here is commendable.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 2:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Farewell, NVDA community: retiring from NVDA contributions, effective September 1, 2021 I received permission from Nimer regarding the following letter: Hello NVDA community, First, I hope you are staying safe and healthy. One day in early 2012, I came across a question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine years: translations, writing documentation, founding an international gathering of a community, releasing countless add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from the community, and that golden opportunity has come: On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in communication studies at California State University, Los Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude) from the same university. After observing discussions between graduate students and thinking about balancing between graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA code contributions, I decided that school should take highest of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and public speaking coach. Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means: · I do have work to finish which might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull requests. · I’m handing over most of my add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is needed until NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10 ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development from time to time. · For NVDACon attendees and organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot) participate in NVDACon for a while. · For add-ons community, I will be stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this summer (details will be sent to add-ons list). Several thank you’s: · Mick and Jamie: for starting it all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a movement, which endures today. · NV Access staff, past and present: so many discussions, teaching me about life, programming, and group work. · Mesar Hameed: for teaching me about NVDA translation process and making sure community add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013. · Many NvDA users and enthusiasts in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean blindness community and help formulating strategies on translations and outreach nine years ago. · Many translators: for helping me adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator in 2012. · Thousands of users: for teaching me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and countless other venues. · Nimer and NVDA Users list moderators, past and present: many collaborations and helpful advice. · For users of my add-ons: countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were destroyed after analyses because they contain private information), and so many other things that made add-ons useful to this day. · NVDA supporters outside this forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support. · Microsoft engineers and fellow Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn from. · Folks from Mozilla, Google, and other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues. One advice for future NVDA contributors: listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull requests without listening to what others have to say. Before writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users. Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people online. Although I’m retiring as a code contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what not. Before I close, I would like to take this time to invite resident high school and college students to invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others to advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments. What strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament. Advocacy will be important, especially as the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks: virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics, web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade people about baking accessibility into products. Right now, there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to coach public speaking events (see the message header for contact email); this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users list, but also in other communities). Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy. Sincerely, Joseph S. Lee NVDA Certified Expert, 2019 Volunteer translator, code contributor, and add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to September 2021) Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016) Member, NVDA Council Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to 2016)
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Hi, Joseph,
Thank you for all the great work you've done with NVDA add-ons.
Best of luck to you in moving forward.
Rosemarie
On 5/10/2021 2:48 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
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I received permission from Nimer regarding
the following letter:
Hello NVDA community,
First, I hope you are staying safe and
healthy.
One day in early 2012, I came across a
question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list
which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA
read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine
years: translations, writing documentation, founding an
international gathering of a community, releasing countless
add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and
learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the
community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of
contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from
the community, and that golden opportunity has come:
On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted
admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in
communication studies at California State University, Los
Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude)
from the same university.
After observing discussions between
graduate students and thinking about balancing between
graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA
code contributions, I decided that school should take highest
of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than
undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding
responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in
collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love
programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot
forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and
public speaking coach.
Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community
contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means:
- I do have work to finish which
might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to
dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull
requests.
- I’m handing over most of my
add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further
maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and
Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is needed until
NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials
is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10
ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development
from time to time.
- For NVDACon attendees and
organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot)
participate in NVDACon for a while.
- For add-ons community, I will be
stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this
summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s:
- Mick and Jamie: for starting it
all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a
movement, which endures today.
- NV Access staff, past and
present: so many discussions, teaching me about life,
programming, and group work.
- Mesar Hameed: for teaching me
about NVDA translation process and making sure community
add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013.
- Many NvDA users and enthusiasts
in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean
blindness community and help formulating strategies on
translations and outreach nine years ago.
- Many translators: for helping me
adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator
in 2012.
- Thousands of users: for teaching
me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and
countless other venues.
- Nimer and NVDA Users list
moderators, past and present: many collaborations and
helpful advice.
- For users of my add-ons:
countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were
destroyed after analyses because they contain private
information), and so many other things that made add-ons
useful to this day.
- NVDA supporters outside this
forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support.
- Microsoft engineers and fellow
Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn
from.
- Folks from Mozilla, Google, and
other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors:
listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull
requests without listening to what others have to say. Before
writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users.
Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people
online.
Although I’m retiring as a code
contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in
other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel
free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility
advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what
not.
Before I close, I would like to take this
time to invite resident high school and college students to
invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech
and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others to
advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in
your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and
debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high
school or college speech and debate tournaments. What
strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech
tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the
world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and
accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament.
Advocacy will be important, especially as
the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks:
virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics,
web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and
college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade
people about baking accessibility into products. Right now,
there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or
college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely
ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to coach public
speaking events (see the message header for contact email);
this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former
speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any
blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users
list, but also in other communities).
Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for
teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for
giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of
many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code
contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy.
Sincerely,
Joseph S. Lee
NVDA Certified Expert, 2019
Volunteer translator, code contributor, and
add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to
September 2021)
Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers
Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016)
Member, NVDA Council
Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to
2016)
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Farewell Joseph, It is sad to reach a turning point but you have done a wonderful job on behalf of all of us. I wish you well in the future with all your Korean endeavours. Yours sincerely, Cearbhall O'Meadhra m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 10:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Farewell, NVDA community: retiring from NVDA contributions, effective September 1, 2021 I received permission from Nimer regarding the following letter: Hello NVDA community, First, I hope you are staying safe and healthy. One day in early 2012, I came across a question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine years: translations, writing documentation, founding an international gathering of a community, releasing countless add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from the community, and that golden opportunity has come: On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in communication studies at California State University, Los Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude) from the same university. After observing discussions between graduate students and thinking about balancing between graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA code contributions, I decided that school should take highest of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and public speaking coach. Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means: - I do have work to finish which might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull requests.
- I’m handing over most of my add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is needed until NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10 ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development from time to time.
- For NVDACon attendees and organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot) participate in NVDACon for a while.
- For add-ons community, I will be stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s: - Mick and Jamie: for starting it all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a movement, which endures today.
- NV Access staff, past and present: so many discussions, teaching me about life, programming, and group work.
- Mesar Hameed: for teaching me about NVDA translation process and making sure community add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013.
- Many NvDA users and enthusiasts in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean blindness community and help formulating strategies on translations and outreach nine years ago.
- Many translators: for helping me adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator in 2012.
- Thousands of users: for teaching me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and countless other venues.
- Nimer and NVDA Users list moderators, past and present: many collaborations and helpful advice.
- For users of my add-ons: countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were destroyed after analyses because they contain private information), and so many other things that made add-ons useful to this day.
- NVDA supporters outside this forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support.
- Microsoft engineers and fellow Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn from.
- Folks from Mozilla, Google, and other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors: listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull requests without listening to what others have to say. Before writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users. Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people online. Although I’m retiring as a code contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what not. Before I close, I would like to take this time to invite resident high school and college students to invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others to advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments. What strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament. Advocacy will be important, especially as the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks: virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics, web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade people about baking accessibility into products. Right now, there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to coach public speaking events (see the message header for contact email); this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users list, but also in other communities). Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy. Sincerely, Joseph S. Lee NVDA Certified Expert, 2019 Volunteer translator, code contributor, and add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to September 2021) Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016) Member, NVDA Council Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to 2016)
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Hi Joseph, Congrats on getting into graduate school! Knowing you as I do, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this isn't the last I hear of you. I can't believe it's been almost 14 years since we first met on the BrailleNote list. I still have that old unit which I wrote so many of my early messages on, can't believe it'll be 15 this June!
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On 5/10/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote: I received permission from Nimer regarding the following letter:
Hello NVDA community,
First, I hope you are staying safe and healthy.
One day in early 2012, I came across a question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine years: translations, writing documentation, founding an international gathering of a community, releasing countless add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from the community, and that golden opportunity has come:
On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in communication studies at California State University, Los Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude) from the same university.
After observing discussions between graduate students and thinking about balancing between graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA code contributions, I decided that school should take highest of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and public speaking coach.
Therefore, I'm retiring from NVDA community contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means:
* I do have work to finish which might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull requests. * I'm handing over most of my add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and Windows 10 App Essentials - Add-on Updater is needed until NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10 ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development from time to time. * For NVDACon attendees and organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot) participate in NVDACon for a while. * For add-ons community, I will be stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you's:
* Mick and Jamie: for starting it all fifteen years ago - April 2006 signaled the birth of a movement, which endures today. * NV Access staff, past and present: so many discussions, teaching me about life, programming, and group work. * Mesar Hameed: for teaching me about NVDA translation process and making sure community add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013. * Many NvDA users and enthusiasts in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean blindness community and help formulating strategies on translations and outreach nine years ago. * Many translators: for helping me adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator in 2012. * Thousands of users: for teaching me many things - forum discussions, direct feedback, and countless other venues. * Nimer and NVDA Users list moderators, past and present: many collaborations and helpful advice. * For users of my add-ons: countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were destroyed after analyses because they contain private information), and so many other things that made add-ons useful to this day. * NVDA supporters outside this forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support. * Microsoft engineers and fellow Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn from. * Folks from Mozilla, Google, and other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors: listen a lot. You can't write effective add-ons and NVDA pull requests without listening to what others have to say. Before writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users. Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people online.
Although I'm retiring as a code contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me - feel free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what not.
Before I close, I would like to take this time to invite resident high school and college students to invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech and debate tournaments. You can't just sit and ask others to advocate for you - you must do it yourself at some point in your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments. What strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the world about NVDA project - I even talked about NVDA and accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament.
Advocacy will be important, especially as the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks: virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics, web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade people about baking accessibility into products. Right now, there aren't many blind students competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely ask you to change the big picture. I'm willing to coach public speaking events (see the message header for contact email); this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users list, but also in other communities).
Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy.
Sincerely,
Joseph S. Lee
NVDA Certified Expert, 2019
Volunteer translator, code contributor, and add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to September 2021)
Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016)
Member, NVDA Council
Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to 2016)
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Hi Joseph,
Congratulations on your new future. We will miss you a lot. Who will
be taking over your work? Has anyone been selected yet or is that
still in the works?
On 5/10/2021 5:48 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
I received permission from Nimer regarding
the following letter:
Hello NVDA community,
First, I hope you are staying safe and
healthy.
One day in early 2012, I came across a
question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list
which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA
read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine
years: translations, writing documentation, founding an
international gathering of a community, releasing countless
add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and
learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the
community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of
contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from
the community, and that golden opportunity has come:
On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted
admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in
communication studies at California State University, Los
Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude)
from the same university.
After observing discussions between
graduate students and thinking about balancing between
graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA
code contributions, I decided that school should take highest
of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than
undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding
responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in
collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love
programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot
forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and
public speaking coach.
Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community
contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means:
- I do have work to finish which
might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to
dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull
requests.
- I’m handing over most of my
add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further
maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and
Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is needed until
NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials
is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10
ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development
from time to time.
- For NVDACon attendees and
organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot)
participate in NVDACon for a while.
- For add-ons community, I will be
stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this
summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s:
- Mick and Jamie: for starting it
all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a
movement, which endures today.
- NV Access staff, past and
present: so many discussions, teaching me about life,
programming, and group work.
- Mesar Hameed: for teaching me
about NVDA translation process and making sure community
add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013.
- Many NvDA users and enthusiasts
in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean
blindness community and help formulating strategies on
translations and outreach nine years ago.
- Many translators: for helping me
adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator
in 2012.
- Thousands of users: for teaching
me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and
countless other venues.
- Nimer and NVDA Users list
moderators, past and present: many collaborations and
helpful advice.
- For users of my add-ons:
countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were
destroyed after analyses because they contain private
information), and so many other things that made add-ons
useful to this day.
- NVDA supporters outside this
forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support.
- Microsoft engineers and fellow
Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn
from.
- Folks from Mozilla, Google, and
other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors:
listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull
requests without listening to what others have to say. Before
writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users.
Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people
online.
Although I’m retiring as a code
contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in
other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel
free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility
advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what
not.
Before I close, I would like to take this
time to invite resident high school and college students to
invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech
and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others to
advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in
your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and
debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high
school or college speech and debate tournaments. What
strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech
tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the
world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and
accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament.
Advocacy will be important, especially as
the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks:
virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics,
web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and
college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade
people about baking accessibility into products. Right now,
there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or
college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely
ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to coach public
speaking events (see the message header for contact email);
this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former
speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any
blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users
list, but also in other communities).
Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for
teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for
giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of
many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code
contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy.
Sincerely,
Joseph S. Lee
NVDA Certified Expert, 2019
Volunteer translator, code contributor, and
add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to
September 2021)
Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers
Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016)
Member, NVDA Council
Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to
2016)
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Well lets hope the community can continue to keep your standard
you have shown us how to keep.
However its good that you are going places.
Over this last year or so due to covid and its ongoing goings on,
a lot of my research projects at university especially one of my
biggest ones have stopped.
There were a flurry of online jobs last year as everything got
started but not so much.
Even my main job may or may not go ahead due to part of it coming
from india.
And while technically that part is back to normal, there may not
be anything left to do that needs me to do anything.
So yeah, congrats from all of us I think anyway.
Even though we have had our disagreements and such I have the
highest respect for you and other mods on here.
Of course since my last drama, I don't tend to talk much on here
even on win10 I respond privately to people if I need to otherwise
I will just lerk here and watch.
I am always watching though.
On 10/05/2021 9:48 pm, Joseph Lee
wrote:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
I received permission from Nimer regarding
the following letter:
Hello NVDA community,
First, I hope you are staying safe and
healthy.
One day in early 2012, I came across a
question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list
which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA
read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine
years: translations, writing documentation, founding an
international gathering of a community, releasing countless
add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and
learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the
community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of
contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from
the community, and that golden opportunity has come:
On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted
admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in
communication studies at California State University, Los
Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude)
from the same university.
After observing discussions between
graduate students and thinking about balancing between
graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA
code contributions, I decided that school should take highest
of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than
undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding
responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in
collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love
programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot
forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and
public speaking coach.
Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community
contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means:
- I do have work to finish which
might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to
dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull
requests.
- I’m handing over most of my
add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further
maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and
Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is needed until
NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials
is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10
ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development
from time to time.
- For NVDACon attendees and
organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot)
participate in NVDACon for a while.
- For add-ons community, I will be
stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this
summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s:
- Mick and Jamie: for starting it
all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a
movement, which endures today.
- NV Access staff, past and
present: so many discussions, teaching me about life,
programming, and group work.
- Mesar Hameed: for teaching me
about NVDA translation process and making sure community
add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013.
- Many NvDA users and enthusiasts
in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean
blindness community and help formulating strategies on
translations and outreach nine years ago.
- Many translators: for helping me
adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator
in 2012.
- Thousands of users: for teaching
me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and
countless other venues.
- Nimer and NVDA Users list
moderators, past and present: many collaborations and
helpful advice.
- For users of my add-ons:
countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were
destroyed after analyses because they contain private
information), and so many other things that made add-ons
useful to this day.
- NVDA supporters outside this
forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support.
- Microsoft engineers and fellow
Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn
from.
- Folks from Mozilla, Google, and
other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors:
listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull
requests without listening to what others have to say. Before
writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users.
Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people
online.
Although I’m retiring as a code
contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in
other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel
free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility
advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what
not.
Before I close, I would like to take this
time to invite resident high school and college students to
invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech
and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others to
advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in
your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and
debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high
school or college speech and debate tournaments. What
strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech
tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the
world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and
accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament.
Advocacy will be important, especially as
the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks:
virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics,
web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and
college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade
people about baking accessibility into products. Right now,
there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or
college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely
ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to coach public
speaking events (see the message header for contact email);
this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former
speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any
blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users
list, but also in other communities).
Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for
teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for
giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of
many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code
contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy.
Sincerely,
Joseph S. Lee
NVDA Certified Expert, 2019
Volunteer translator, code contributor, and
add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to
September 2021)
Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers
Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016)
Member, NVDA Council
Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to
2016)
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Farewell, Joseph. Congratulations on your future education.
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Hi, I’m laying the foundation to get new people in my places on various forums and communities. Note that I’ll stay around on this list for a while to provide advice. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:51 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Farewell, NVDA community: retiring from NVDA contributions, effective September 1, 2021 Hi Joseph,
Congratulations on your new future. We will miss you a lot. Who will be taking over your work? Has anyone been selected yet or is that still in the works?
On 5/10/2021 5:48 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: I received permission from Nimer regarding the following letter: Hello NVDA community, First, I hope you are staying safe and healthy. One day in early 2012, I came across a question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine years: translations, writing documentation, founding an international gathering of a community, releasing countless add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from the community, and that golden opportunity has come: On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in communication studies at California State University, Los Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude) from the same university. After observing discussions between graduate students and thinking about balancing between graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA code contributions, I decided that school should take highest of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and public speaking coach. Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means: - I do have work to finish which might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull requests.
- I’m handing over most of my add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is needed until NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10 ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development from time to time.
- For NVDACon attendees and organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot) participate in NVDACon for a while.
- For add-ons community, I will be stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s: - Mick and Jamie: for starting it all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a movement, which endures today.
- NV Access staff, past and present: so many discussions, teaching me about life, programming, and group work.
- Mesar Hameed: for teaching me about NVDA translation process and making sure community add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013.
- Many NvDA users and enthusiasts in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean blindness community and help formulating strategies on translations and outreach nine years ago.
- Many translators: for helping me adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator in 2012.
- Thousands of users: for teaching me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and countless other venues.
- Nimer and NVDA Users list moderators, past and present: many collaborations and helpful advice.
- For users of my add-ons: countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were destroyed after analyses because they contain private information), and so many other things that made add-ons useful to this day.
- NVDA supporters outside this forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support.
- Microsoft engineers and fellow Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn from.
- Folks from Mozilla, Google, and other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors: listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull requests without listening to what others have to say. Before writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users. Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people online. Although I’m retiring as a code contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what not. Before I close, I would like to take this time to invite resident high school and college students to invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others to advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments. What strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament. Advocacy will be important, especially as the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks: virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics, web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade people about baking accessibility into products. Right now, there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to coach public speaking events (see the message header for contact email); this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users list, but also in other communities). Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy. Sincerely, Joseph S. Lee NVDA Certified Expert, 2019 Volunteer translator, code contributor, and add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to September 2021) Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016) Member, NVDA Council Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to 2016)
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Hi Josiph. Best wishes to you as you open a new chapter in your life. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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From: Shaun EverissSent: May 10, 2021 11:53 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: Re: [nvda] Farewell, NVDA community: retiring from NVDA contributions, effective September 1, 2021 Well lets hope the community can continue to keep your standard you have shown us how to keep. However its good that you are going places. Over this last year or so due to covid and its ongoing goings on, a lot of my research projects at university especially one of my biggest ones have stopped. There were a flurry of online jobs last year as everything got started but not so much. Even my main job may or may not go ahead due to part of it coming from india. And while technically that part is back to normal, there may not be anything left to do that needs me to do anything. So yeah, congrats from all of us I think anyway. Even though we have had our disagreements and such I have the highest respect for you and other mods on here. Of course since my last drama, I don't tend to talk much on here even on win10 I respond privately to people if I need to otherwise I will just lerk here and watch. I am always watching though. On 10/05/2021 9:48 pm, Joseph Lee wrote: I received permission from Nimer regarding the following letter: Hello NVDA community, First, I hope you are staying safe and healthy. One day in early 2012, I came across a question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine years: translations, writing documentation, founding an international gathering of a community, releasing countless add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from the community, and that golden opportunity has come: On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in communication studies at California State University, Los Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude) from the same university. After observing discussions between graduate students and thinking about balancing between graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA code contributions, I decided that school should take highest of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and public speaking coach. Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means: - I do have work to finish which might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull requests.
- I’m handing over most of my add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is needed until NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10 ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development from time to time.
- For NVDACon attendees and organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot) participate in NVDACon for a while.
- For add-ons community, I will be stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s: - Mick and Jamie: for starting it all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a movement, which endures today.
- NV Access staff, past and present: so many discussions, teaching me about life, programming, and group work.
- Mesar Hameed: for teaching me about NVDA translation process and making sure community add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013.
- Many NvDA users and enthusiasts in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean blindness community and help formulating strategies on translations and outreach nine years ago.
- Many translators: for helping me adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator in 2012.
- Thousands of users: for teaching me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and countless other venues.
- Nimer and NVDA Users list moderators, past and present: many collaborations and helpful advice.
- For users of my add-ons: countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were destroyed after analyses because they contain private information), and so many other things that made add-ons useful to this day.
- NVDA supporters outside this forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support.
- Microsoft engineers and fellow Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn from.
- Folks from Mozilla, Google, and other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors: listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull requests without listening to what others have to say. Before writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users. Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people online. Although I’m retiring as a code contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what not. Before I close, I would like to take this time to invite resident high school and college students to invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others to advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments. What strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament. Advocacy will be important, especially as the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks: virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics, web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade people about baking accessibility into products. Right now, there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to coach public speaking events (see the message header for contact email); this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users list, but also in other communities). Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy. Sincerely, Joseph S. Lee NVDA Certified Expert, 2019 Volunteer translator, code contributor, and add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to September 2021) Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016) Member, NVDA Council Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to 2016)
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I want to thank you for all of your work and wish
you the very best in your endeavors.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 3:48 AM
Subject: [nvda] Farewell, NVDA community:
retiring from NVDA contributions, effective September 1, 2021
I received permission from Nimer regarding the following
letter:
Hello NVDA community,
First, I hope you are staying safe and
healthy.
One day in early 2012, I came across a question posed on an
NVDA list (it could have been this list which was hosted on a different forum
platform then): can NVDA read Korean? That question led to an adventure that
span nine years: translations, writing documentation, founding an
international gathering of a community, releasing countless add-ons,
moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and learning to incorporate
lessons I have learned from the community in the next chapter of my life. In
the midst of contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from the
community, and that golden opportunity has come:
On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted admission to
master of arts (graduate school) program in communication studies at
California State University, Los Angeles after graduating with highest honors
(summa cum laude) from the same university.
After observing discussions between graduate students and
thinking about balancing between graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate
teams, and NVDA code contributions, I decided that school should take highest
of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than undergraduate
(college) education, especially when adding responsibility of teaching and
coaching students competing in collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As
much as I love programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot forget
my immediate responsibilities of being a student and public speaking
coach.
Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community contributions,
effective September 1, 2021. This means:
- I do have work to finish
which might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to dedicate this
summer to completing outstanding pull requests.
- I’m handing over most of
my add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further maintenance. I do plan
to maintain Add-on Updater and Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is
needed until NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials is
needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10 ecosystem and to
keep up with changes in NVDA development from time to time.
- For NVDACon attendees and
organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot) participate in
NVDACon for a while.
- For add-ons community, I
will be stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this summer
(details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s:
- Mick and Jamie: for
starting it all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a
movement, which endures today.
- NV Access staff, past and
present: so many discussions, teaching me about life, programming, and group
work.
- Mesar Hameed: for
teaching me about NVDA translation process and making sure community add-ons
website was ready for the world in 2013.
- Many NvDA users and
enthusiasts in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean
blindness community and help formulating strategies on translations and
outreach nine years ago.
- Many translators: for
helping me adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator in
2012.
- Thousands of users: for
teaching me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and countless
other venues.
- Nimer and NVDA Users list
moderators, past and present: many collaborations and helpful
advice.
- For users of my add-ons:
countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were destroyed after
analyses because they contain private information), and so many other things
that made add-ons useful to this day.
- NVDA supporters outside
this forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support.
- Microsoft engineers and
fellow Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn
from.
- Folks from Mozilla,
Google, and other organizations: for meeting new friends and
colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors: listen a lot. You
can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull requests without listening to what
others have to say. Before writing Python, sit down and have a conversation
with users. Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people
online.
Although I’m retiring as a code contributor, I look forward
to helping the NVDA community in other ways. Until then, graduate school is
calling me – feel free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility
advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what
not.
Before I close, I would like to take this time to invite
resident high school and college students to invest in public speaking, or if
you want, compete in speech and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask
others to advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in your
life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and debate skills, and one
venue is through competing in high school or college speech and debate
tournaments. What strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech
tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the world about NVDA
project – I even talked about NVDA and accessibility advocacy at a national
speech tournament.
Advocacy will be important, especially as the world moves
onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks: virtual reality, artificial
intelligence, biometrics, web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school
and college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade people about
baking accessibility into products. Right now, there aren’t many blind
students competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments,
and I want to sincerely ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to
coach public speaking events (see the message header for contact email); this
speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former speech competitor
and now an apprentice coach extends to any blind high school or college
student (not only on NVDA Users list, but also in other
communities).
Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for teaching me many
lessons over the last nine years, and for giving me opportunities to make a
difference in the lives of many as an undergraduate college student and a
volunteer code contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and
healthy.
Sincerely,
Joseph S. Lee
NVDA Certified Expert, 2019
Volunteer translator, code contributor, and add-ons
reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to September
2021)
Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers Conference
(NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016)
Member, NVDA Council
Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to
2016)
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Joseph,I wish you the best. Hope that yyouwill have success in what eve journeys you pursue.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Metzler Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 6:58 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Farewell, NVDA community: retiring from NVDA contributions, effective September 1, 2021 Hi Joseph, I wish you all the best in all your future endeavors. I received permission from Nimer regarding the following letter: Hello NVDA community, First, I hope you are staying safe and healthy. One day in early 2012, I came across a question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine years: translations, writing documentation, founding an international gathering of a community, releasing countless add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from the community, and that golden opportunity has come: On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in communication studies at California State University, Los Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude) from the same university. After observing discussions between graduate students and thinking about balancing between graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA code contributions, I decided that school should take highest of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and public speaking coach. Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means: - I do have work to finish which might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull requests.
- I’m handing over most of my add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is needed until NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10 ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development from time to time.
- For NVDACon attendees and organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot) participate in NVDACon for a while.
- For add-ons community, I will be stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s: - Mick and Jamie: for starting it all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a movement, which endures today.
- NV Access staff, past and present: so many discussions, teaching me about life, programming, and group work.
- Mesar Hameed: for teaching me about NVDA translation process and making sure community add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013.
- Many NvDA users and enthusiasts in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean blindness community and help formulating strategies on translations and outreach nine years ago.
- Many translators: for helping me adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator in 2012.
- Thousands of users: for teaching me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and countless other venues.
- Nimer and NVDA Users list moderators, past and present: many collaborations and helpful advice.
- For users of my add-ons: countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were destroyed after analyses because they contain private information), and so many other things that made add-ons useful to this day.
- NVDA supporters outside this forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support.
- Microsoft engineers and fellow Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn from.
- Folks from Mozilla, Google, and other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors: listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull requests without listening to what others have to say. Before writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users. Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people online. Although I’m retiring as a code contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what not. Before I close, I would like to take this time to invite resident high school and college students to invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others to advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments. What strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament. Advocacy will be important, especially as the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks: virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics, web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade people about baking accessibility into products. Right now, there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to coach public speaking events (see the message header for contact email); this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users list, but also in other communities). Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy. Sincerely, Joseph S. Lee NVDA Certified Expert, 2019 Volunteer translator, code contributor, and add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to September 2021) Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016) Member, NVDA Council Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to 2016)
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You will be missed, Joseph! I tell many friends about you and how you are a great example of what and how the blind community can contribute to the world! I wish you the very best, and you will always be a great role model for me!
David Moore!
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I received permission from Nimer regarding the following letter: Hello NVDA community, First, I hope you are staying safe and healthy. One day in early 2012, I came across a question posed on an NVDA list (it could have been this list which was hosted on a different forum platform then): can NVDA read Korean? That question led to an adventure that span nine years: translations, writing documentation, founding an international gathering of a community, releasing countless add-ons, moderating several NVDA lists and communities, and learning to incorporate lessons I have learned from the community in the next chapter of my life. In the midst of contributions, I recently hinted that I plan to retire from the community, and that golden opportunity has come: On May 10, 2021, I was offered and accepted admission to master of arts (graduate school) program in communication studies at California State University, Los Angeles after graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude) from the same university. After observing discussions between graduate students and thinking about balancing between graduate seminars, coaching speech and debate teams, and NVDA code contributions, I decided that school should take highest of highest of priorities. Graduate school is harder than undergraduate (college) education, especially when adding responsibility of teaching and coaching students competing in collegiate speech and debate tournaments. As much as I love programming and contributing to NVDA community, I cannot forget my immediate responsibilities of being a student and public speaking coach. Therefore, I’m retiring from NVDA community contributions, effective September 1, 2021. This means: - I do have work to finish which might end up in NVDA as early as 2021.2, and I plan to dedicate this summer to completing outstanding pull requests.
- I’m handing over most of my add-ons to the NVDA add-ons community for further maintenance. I do plan to maintain Add-on Updater and Windows 10 App Essentials – Add-on Updater is needed until NVDA comes with add-ons store, and Windows 10 App Essentials is needed to respond to ever-changing nature of Windows 10 ecosystem and to keep up with changes in NVDA development from time to time.
- For NVDACon attendees and organizers, I will not be able to (and I really cannot) participate in NVDACon for a while.
- For add-ons community, I will be stepping down as your chief admin and add-on reviewer this summer (details will be sent to add-ons list).
Several thank you’s: - Mick and Jamie: for starting it all fifteen years ago – April 2006 signaled the birth of a movement, which endures today.
- NV Access staff, past and present: so many discussions, teaching me about life, programming, and group work.
- Mesar Hameed: for teaching me about NVDA translation process and making sure community add-ons website was ready for the world in 2013.
- Many NvDA users and enthusiasts in South Korea: for giving me an updated picture on Korean blindness community and help formulating strategies on translations and outreach nine years ago.
- Many translators: for helping me adjust to the NVDA community when I was a novice translator in 2012.
- Thousands of users: for teaching me many things – forum discussions, direct feedback, and countless other venues.
- Nimer and NVDA Users list moderators, past and present: many collaborations and helpful advice.
- For users of my add-ons: countless feedback, megabytes of debug logs (all were destroyed after analyses because they contain private information), and so many other things that made add-ons useful to this day.
- NVDA supporters outside this forum: for your continued enthusiasm and support.
- Microsoft engineers and fellow Windows Insiders: many opportunities to connect and learn from.
- Folks from Mozilla, Google, and other organizations: for meeting new friends and colleagues.
One advice for future NVDA contributors: listen a lot. You can’t write effective add-ons and NVDA pull requests without listening to what others have to say. Before writing Python, sit down and have a conversation with users. Collaboration is the key, especially when talking to people online. Although I’m retiring as a code contributor, I look forward to helping the NVDA community in other ways. Until then, graduate school is calling me – feel free to reach out if you seek advice on accessibility advocacy, programming in general, public speaking, and what not. Before I close, I would like to take this time to invite resident high school and college students to invest in public speaking, or if you want, compete in speech and debate tournaments. You can’t just sit and ask others to advocate for you – you must do it yourself at some point in your life. One way to do so is learning public speaking and debate skills, and one venue is through competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments. What strengthened my own advocacy skills was competing in speech tournaments, which also provided opportunities to tell the world about NVDA project – I even talked about NVDA and accessibility advocacy at a national speech tournament. Advocacy will be important, especially as the world moves onto digital ways to accomplish more tasks: virtual reality, artificial intelligence, biometrics, web-based workplace, and telehealth. As high school and college students, you are in a place to inform and persuade people about baking accessibility into products. Right now, there aren’t many blind students competing in high school or college speech and debate tournaments, and I want to sincerely ask you to change the big picture. I’m willing to coach public speaking events (see the message header for contact email); this speech coaching offer from a nationally recognized former speech competitor and now an apprentice coach extends to any blind high school or college student (not only on NVDA Users list, but also in other communities). Farewell, NVDA community. Thank you for teaching me many lessons over the last nine years, and for giving me opportunities to make a difference in the lives of many as an undergraduate college student and a volunteer code contributor. Love you all, and stay safe and healthy. Sincerely, Joseph S. Lee NVDA Certified Expert, 2019 Volunteer translator, code contributor, and add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project (June 2012 to September 2021) Founding chair, NVDA Users and developers Conference (NVDACon) (March 2014 to April 2016) Member, NVDA Council Former moderator, NVDA Users list (2013 to 2016)
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Hello, Thanks for all your contributions making NVDA better; It goes without saying - you did a fantastic job there! Not only that, your efforts in Windows 10 development and tutoring are also unforgetable! Thank you for all advices, guidelines and tutorials given to the blind community around the world! I wish you good luck anytime and anywhere in your future! :-) Best regards, Paulius
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Hi Joseph,
congratulations for the study opportunity and best wishes for your future. thank you for all the efforts you have made to bring NVDA to the present level. your efforts will always be remembered.
regards,
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On 5/11/21, Paulius <paulius.leveris@...> wrote: Hello, Thanks for all your contributions making NVDA better; It goes without saying - you did a fantastic job there! Not only that, your efforts in Windows 10 development and tutoring are also unforgetable! Thank you for all advices, guidelines and tutorials given to the blind community around the world! I wish you good luck anytime and anywhere in your future! :-) Best regards, Paulius
-- Dr. Sharad Koirala Lecturer Department of Community Medicine Gandaki Medical College, Pokhara, Nepal
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Hello Joseph,
Your contributions will be missed. Thank you for everything, and many congratulations for your new opportunities. -- Regards, Sociohack
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