Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop


Steve Nutt
 

It appears not.  I looked on three machines, and Remove is greyed out.

 

But it doesn’t matter now.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: 13 May 2021 09:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop

 

Actually you can easily manage voices under settings > time and language > speech > manage voices section

 

Where you can add and remove voices without the messing around with language packs

 

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 13 May 2021 09:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop

 

That’s the problem. It’s not easy to remove the voices.  You have to change the Windows language, because it won’t let you remove the voices of the default Windows language.

 

Anyway, solved for now, but I see I am not unique to having this problem.

 

Thanks all.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: 12 May 2021 18:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop

 

You could try removing the voices and adding them again

 

And RESTART the system

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 12 May 2021 17:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop

 

Hi,

 

This is a brand new laptop for a customer.  I have just upgraded it to Windows 10 H2 and installed NVDA.

 

I have two identical laptops here, one works absolutely fine, and the other will not load the Onecore voices.

 

It appears in the list, but then says Error loading Synthesiser driver. It works with Espeak fine, but I think they would prefer the default voice.

 

Narrator speaks fine with it, and even works if I go into Speech settings in Windows and Preview the voice.

 

What I have tried so far is to completely remove and reinstall NVDA, including user settings.

 

I have also tried resetting the configuration with Control+NVDA+R three times.

 

Again, the synth appears in the list, but errors when loading.

 

I saw a similar message on this list from Louise, so the next thing I am going to try is to check compatibility settings in NVDA to make sure nothing is checked.  Other than that though, I am not sure what is going on here. Other than that, I’m almost ready to reset the PC, if no-one has any ideas.

 

Here is the log excerpt that I get when trying to load the synth:-

 

INFO - core.main (16:48:49.235) - MainThread (5932):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (16:48:52.220) - MainThread (5932):

setSynth

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 448, in setSynth

  File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 419, in getSynthInstance

  File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 169, in __init__

  File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 476, in _getDefaultVoice

RuntimeError: No voices available

 

Of course, there are voices available, because they work with Narrator.

 

If anyone has any ideas, please do hit me with them.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


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Chris
 

Actually you can easily manage voices under settings > time and language > speech > manage voices section

 

Where you can add and remove voices without the messing around with language packs

 

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 13 May 2021 09:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop

 

That’s the problem. It’s not easy to remove the voices.  You have to change the Windows language, because it won’t let you remove the voices of the default Windows language.

 

Anyway, solved for now, but I see I am not unique to having this problem.

 

Thanks all.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: 12 May 2021 18:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop

 

You could try removing the voices and adding them again

 

And RESTART the system

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 12 May 2021 17:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop

 

Hi,

 

This is a brand new laptop for a customer.  I have just upgraded it to Windows 10 H2 and installed NVDA.

 

I have two identical laptops here, one works absolutely fine, and the other will not load the Onecore voices.

 

It appears in the list, but then says Error loading Synthesiser driver. It works with Espeak fine, but I think they would prefer the default voice.

 

Narrator speaks fine with it, and even works if I go into Speech settings in Windows and Preview the voice.

 

What I have tried so far is to completely remove and reinstall NVDA, including user settings.

 

I have also tried resetting the configuration with Control+NVDA+R three times.

 

Again, the synth appears in the list, but errors when loading.

 

I saw a similar message on this list from Louise, so the next thing I am going to try is to check compatibility settings in NVDA to make sure nothing is checked.  Other than that though, I am not sure what is going on here. Other than that, I’m almost ready to reset the PC, if no-one has any ideas.

 

Here is the log excerpt that I get when trying to load the synth:-

 

INFO - core.main (16:48:49.235) - MainThread (5932):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (16:48:52.220) - MainThread (5932):

setSynth

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 448, in setSynth

  File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 419, in getSynthInstance

  File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 169, in __init__

  File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 476, in _getDefaultVoice

RuntimeError: No voices available

 

Of course, there are voices available, because they work with Narrator.

 

If anyone has any ideas, please do hit me with them.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


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Steve Nutt
 

Yep, I read that thread with interest.

 

I didn’t have that exact problem, mine was in the list, but there was an error loading the driver.

 

I since tried the SFC /Scannow and the Dism commands, but no errors were detected.

 

So I reset the PC, which was a lot quicker than trying to resolve the problem.

 

All the best


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: 12 May 2021 21:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop

 

There are SAPI 5 versions of some of the voices that are also listed as OneCore.  In a recent thread, I learned that which voices also appear as SAPI 5 depends on which default language settings you have.  If I remember correctly, the problem I had with OneCore voices was that it didn’t appear correctly in the list of synthesizers although it loaded correctly when I was finally able to select it.  Compatibility with earlier versions of Windows had to be turned off from NVDA properties.  This was a while ago.

 

Louise


Steve Nutt
 

That’s the problem. It’s not easy to remove the voices.  You have to change the Windows language, because it won’t let you remove the voices of the default Windows language.

 

Anyway, solved for now, but I see I am not unique to having this problem.

 

Thanks all.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: 12 May 2021 18:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop

 

You could try removing the voices and adding them again

 

And RESTART the system

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 12 May 2021 17:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop

 

Hi,

 

This is a brand new laptop for a customer.  I have just upgraded it to Windows 10 H2 and installed NVDA.

 

I have two identical laptops here, one works absolutely fine, and the other will not load the Onecore voices.

 

It appears in the list, but then says Error loading Synthesiser driver. It works with Espeak fine, but I think they would prefer the default voice.

 

Narrator speaks fine with it, and even works if I go into Speech settings in Windows and Preview the voice.

 

What I have tried so far is to completely remove and reinstall NVDA, including user settings.

 

I have also tried resetting the configuration with Control+NVDA+R three times.

 

Again, the synth appears in the list, but errors when loading.

 

I saw a similar message on this list from Louise, so the next thing I am going to try is to check compatibility settings in NVDA to make sure nothing is checked.  Other than that though, I am not sure what is going on here. Other than that, I’m almost ready to reset the PC, if no-one has any ideas.

 

Here is the log excerpt that I get when trying to load the synth:-

 

INFO - core.main (16:48:49.235) - MainThread (5932):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (16:48:52.220) - MainThread (5932):

setSynth

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 448, in setSynth

  File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 419, in getSynthInstance

  File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 169, in __init__

  File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 476, in _getDefaultVoice

RuntimeError: No voices available

 

Of course, there are voices available, because they work with Narrator.

 

If anyone has any ideas, please do hit me with them.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


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Louise Pfau
 

There are SAPI 5 versions of some of the voices that are also listed as OneCore.  In a recent thread, I learned that which voices also appear as SAPI 5 depends on which default language settings you have.  If I remember correctly, the problem I had with OneCore voices was that it didn’t appear correctly in the list of synthesizers although it loaded correctly when I was finally able to select it.  Compatibility with earlier versions of Windows had to be turned off from NVDA properties.  This was a while ago.
 
Louise


Chris
 

You could try removing the voices and adding them again

 

And RESTART the system

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: 12 May 2021 17:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop

 

Hi,

 

This is a brand new laptop for a customer.  I have just upgraded it to Windows 10 H2 and installed NVDA.

 

I have two identical laptops here, one works absolutely fine, and the other will not load the Onecore voices.

 

It appears in the list, but then says Error loading Synthesiser driver. It works with Espeak fine, but I think they would prefer the default voice.

 

Narrator speaks fine with it, and even works if I go into Speech settings in Windows and Preview the voice.

 

What I have tried so far is to completely remove and reinstall NVDA, including user settings.

 

I have also tried resetting the configuration with Control+NVDA+R three times.

 

Again, the synth appears in the list, but errors when loading.

 

I saw a similar message on this list from Louise, so the next thing I am going to try is to check compatibility settings in NVDA to make sure nothing is checked.  Other than that though, I am not sure what is going on here. Other than that, I’m almost ready to reset the PC, if no-one has any ideas.

 

Here is the log excerpt that I get when trying to load the synth:-

 

INFO - core.main (16:48:49.235) - MainThread (5932):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (16:48:52.220) - MainThread (5932):

setSynth

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 448, in setSynth

  File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 419, in getSynthInstance

  File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 169, in __init__

  File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 476, in _getDefaultVoice

RuntimeError: No voices available

 

Of course, there are voices available, because they work with Narrator.

 

If anyone has any ideas, please do hit me with them.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


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Steve Nutt
 

Yep, you asked Louise that, and I even answered it in this Email, by saying I went into speech settings, selected the voice and previewed it.

All the best

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: 12 May 2021 17:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop

Steve, are you sure the voices that are working w/Narrator are 1core as opposed to SAPI5?

On 5/12/21, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,



This is a brand new laptop for a customer. I have just upgraded it to
Windows 10 H2 and installed NVDA.



I have two identical laptops here, one works absolutely fine, and the
other will not load the Onecore voices.



It appears in the list, but then says Error loading Synthesiser
driver. It works with Espeak fine, but I think they would prefer the default voice.



Narrator speaks fine with it, and even works if I go into Speech
settings in Windows and Preview the voice.



What I have tried so far is to completely remove and reinstall NVDA,
including user settings.



I have also tried resetting the configuration with Control+NVDA+R
three times.



Again, the synth appears in the list, but errors when loading.



I saw a similar message on this list from Louise, so the next thing I
am going to try is to check compatibility settings in NVDA to make
sure nothing is checked. Other than that though, I am not sure what
is going on here.
Other than that, I'm almost ready to reset the PC, if no-one has any ideas.



Here is the log excerpt that I get when trying to load the synth:-



INFO - core.main (16:48:49.235) - MainThread (5932):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (16:48:52.220) - MainThread (5932):

setSynth

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 448, in setSynth

File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 419, in getSynthInstance

File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 169, in __init__

File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 476, in _getDefaultVoice

RuntimeError: No voices available



Of course, there are voices available, because they work with Narrator.



If anyone has any ideas, please do hit me with them.



Thanks.



All the best


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Steve Nutt
 

Problem solved, I ended up resetting the machine.

 

I couldn’t really wait long, as it’s for a customer.

 

Weird though.

 

Thanks.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 12 May 2021 17:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with Onecore voices on a Windows 10 laptop

 

Hi,

 

This is a brand new laptop for a customer.  I have just upgraded it to Windows 10 H2 and installed NVDA.

 

I have two identical laptops here, one works absolutely fine, and the other will not load the Onecore voices.

 

It appears in the list, but then says Error loading Synthesiser driver. It works with Espeak fine, but I think they would prefer the default voice.

 

Narrator speaks fine with it, and even works if I go into Speech settings in Windows and Preview the voice.

 

What I have tried so far is to completely remove and reinstall NVDA, including user settings.

 

I have also tried resetting the configuration with Control+NVDA+R three times.

 

Again, the synth appears in the list, but errors when loading.

 

I saw a similar message on this list from Louise, so the next thing I am going to try is to check compatibility settings in NVDA to make sure nothing is checked.  Other than that though, I am not sure what is going on here. Other than that, I’m almost ready to reset the PC, if no-one has any ideas.

 

Here is the log excerpt that I get when trying to load the synth:-

 

INFO - core.main (16:48:49.235) - MainThread (5932):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (16:48:52.220) - MainThread (5932):

setSynth

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 448, in setSynth

  File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 419, in getSynthInstance

  File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 169, in __init__

  File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 476, in _getDefaultVoice

RuntimeError: No voices available

 

Of course, there are voices available, because they work with Narrator.

 

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Jackie
 

Steve, are you sure the voices that are working w/Narrator are 1core
as opposed to SAPI5?

On 5/12/21, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,



This is a brand new laptop for a customer. I have just upgraded it to
Windows 10 H2 and installed NVDA.



I have two identical laptops here, one works absolutely fine, and the other
will not load the Onecore voices.



It appears in the list, but then says Error loading Synthesiser driver. It
works with Espeak fine, but I think they would prefer the default voice.



Narrator speaks fine with it, and even works if I go into Speech settings
in
Windows and Preview the voice.



What I have tried so far is to completely remove and reinstall NVDA,
including user settings.



I have also tried resetting the configuration with Control+NVDA+R three
times.



Again, the synth appears in the list, but errors when loading.



I saw a similar message on this list from Louise, so the next thing I am
going to try is to check compatibility settings in NVDA to make sure
nothing
is checked. Other than that though, I am not sure what is going on here.
Other than that, I'm almost ready to reset the PC, if no-one has any ideas.



Here is the log excerpt that I get when trying to load the synth:-



INFO - core.main (16:48:49.235) - MainThread (5932):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (16:48:52.220) - MainThread (5932):

setSynth

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 448, in setSynth

File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 419, in getSynthInstance

File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 169, in __init__

File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 476, in _getDefaultVoice

RuntimeError: No voices available



Of course, there are voices available, because they work with Narrator.



If anyone has any ideas, please do hit me with them.



Thanks.



All the best


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Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

This is a brand new laptop for a customer.  I have just upgraded it to Windows 10 H2 and installed NVDA.

 

I have two identical laptops here, one works absolutely fine, and the other will not load the Onecore voices.

 

It appears in the list, but then says Error loading Synthesiser driver. It works with Espeak fine, but I think they would prefer the default voice.

 

Narrator speaks fine with it, and even works if I go into Speech settings in Windows and Preview the voice.

 

What I have tried so far is to completely remove and reinstall NVDA, including user settings.

 

I have also tried resetting the configuration with Control+NVDA+R three times.

 

Again, the synth appears in the list, but errors when loading.

 

I saw a similar message on this list from Louise, so the next thing I am going to try is to check compatibility settings in NVDA to make sure nothing is checked.  Other than that though, I am not sure what is going on here. Other than that, I’m almost ready to reset the PC, if no-one has any ideas.

 

Here is the log excerpt that I get when trying to load the synth:-

 

INFO - core.main (16:48:49.235) - MainThread (5932):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (16:48:52.220) - MainThread (5932):

setSynth

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 448, in setSynth

  File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 419, in getSynthInstance

  File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 169, in __init__

  File "synthDrivers\oneCore.pyc", line 476, in _getDefaultVoice

RuntimeError: No voices available

 

Of course, there are voices available, because they work with Narrator.

 

If anyone has any ideas, please do hit me with them.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best


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