latest NVDA caps announcement
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Instead of saying cap when the cursor reaches a
capital letter it spells out "c a p" then pronounces the
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Quentin Christensen
Have you tried restarting the PC. If that doesn't work, try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference. Next, try changing the synthesizer. Also, which synthesizer are you using now? Kind regards Quentin. On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:04 PM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
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Chris
Thats strange, I dont know what setting would cause it to do that, but it does say cap here
From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 13 July 2021 09:04 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
Instead of saying cap when the cursor reaches a capital letter it spells out "c a p" then pronounces the letter.
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Sam Bushman
My new upgrade says C A P and then the letter as well. Would love to change this back to the old way. Any suggestions are more than welcome over here.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 5:18 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
Thats strange, I dont know what setting would cause it to do that, but it does say cap here
From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Instead of saying cap when the cursor reaches a capital letter it spells out "c a p" then pronounces the letter.
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Sam Bushman
Hi Quentin,
I restarted NVDA with add-ons disabled. The caps worked perfectly. But, of course the synth was different – I think windows one core voices.
I then rebooted and the problem was back.
Then I changed from Ellequence to the one core and the problem was once again resolved.
I then changed to E-Speak and that synth doesn’t currently tell if the letter is cap at all.
I will now try to remove one add-on at a time to see if it’s actually the new eloquence – code factory add-on or something else.
Hope this helps.
Thanks, Sam
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 2:46 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
Have you tried restarting the PC. If that doesn't work, try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference. Next, try changing the synthesizer. Also, which synthesizer are you using now?
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:04 PM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
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Sam, I assume you’re using Code Factory Eloquence? Because strangely, Code Factory Eloquence speel capital letters out. For example, if I were to type cap C, it would spelling it back as, “C,A,P,C”. But for ESpeak, it does not spell out the capital letters. |
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Sam Bushman
Hi Quentin,
Ok, I disabled all other add-ons and only had code factory add-on enabled and the problem is still there. I enabled all other add-ons and disabled the code factory add-on and my system switched to the One Core Voices and worked perfectly.
I am convinced either there is a bug in the new Code Factory add-on for eloquence or a setting needs to be reset to resolve.
I will keep working on this to see what changes might help.
In the mean time I unchecked say caps and am using pitch instead until this is resolved.
Thanks,
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 2:46 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
Have you tried restarting the PC. If that doesn't work, try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference. Next, try changing the synthesizer. Also, which synthesizer are you using now?
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:04 PM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
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Gene
If you mean a setting in NVDA, I think the only thing you can do is use
pitch, as you are doing.
Gene -----Original Message-----
From: Sam Bushman
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement Hi Quentin,
Ok, I disabled all other add-ons and only had code factory add-on enabled and the problem is still there. I enabled all other add-ons and disabled the code factory add-on and my system switched to the One Core Voices and worked perfectly.
I am convinced either there is a bug in the new Code Factory add-on for eloquence or a setting needs to be reset to resolve.
I will keep working on this to see what changes might help.
In the mean time I unchecked say caps and am using pitch instead until this is resolved.
Thanks,
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Have you tried restarting the PC. If that doesn't work, try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference. Next, try changing the synthesizer. Also, which synthesizer are you using now?
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:04 PM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
-- Quentin
Christensen
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Sam Bushman
I mean a setting in the Code Factory plugin – maybe a new setting in the new build?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 6:50 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
If you mean a setting in NVDA, I think the only thing you can do is use pitch, as you are doing.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
Hi Quentin,
Ok, I disabled all other add-ons and only had code factory add-on enabled and the problem is still there. I enabled all other add-ons and disabled the code factory add-on and my system switched to the One Core Voices and worked perfectly.
I am convinced either there is a bug in the new Code Factory add-on for eloquence or a setting needs to be reset to resolve.
I will keep working on this to see what changes might help.
In the mean time I unchecked say caps and am using pitch instead until this is resolved.
Thanks,
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Have you tried restarting the PC. If that doesn't work, try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference. Next, try changing the synthesizer. Also, which synthesizer are you using now?
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:04 PM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
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Gene
it doesn’t seem likely but maybe someone will find something.
Gene -----Original Message-----
From: Sam Bushman
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement I mean a setting in the Code Factory plugin – maybe a new setting in the new build?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gene
If you mean a setting in NVDA, I think the only thing you can do is use pitch, as you are doing.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
Hi Quentin,
Ok, I disabled all other add-ons and only had code factory add-on enabled and the problem is still there. I enabled all other add-ons and disabled the code factory add-on and my system switched to the One Core Voices and worked perfectly.
I am convinced either there is a bug in the new Code Factory add-on for eloquence or a setting needs to be reset to resolve.
I will keep working on this to see what changes might help.
In the mean time I unchecked say caps and am using pitch instead until this is resolved.
Thanks,
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Quentin Christensen
Have you tried restarting the PC. If that doesn't work, try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference. Next, try changing the synthesizer. Also, which synthesizer are you using now?
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:04 PM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
-- Quentin
Christensen
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Sam Bushman
I agree, however don’t want to claim a bug unless we are sure about that.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:01 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
it doesn’t seem likely but maybe someone will find something.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
I mean a setting in the Code Factory plugin – maybe a new setting in the new build?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
If you mean a setting in NVDA, I think the only thing you can do is use pitch, as you are doing.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
Hi Quentin,
Ok, I disabled all other add-ons and only had code factory add-on enabled and the problem is still there. I enabled all other add-ons and disabled the code factory add-on and my system switched to the One Core Voices and worked perfectly.
I am convinced either there is a bug in the new Code Factory add-on for eloquence or a setting needs to be reset to resolve.
I will keep working on this to see what changes might help.
In the mean time I unchecked say caps and am using pitch instead until this is resolved.
Thanks,
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Have you tried restarting the PC. If that doesn't work, try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference. Next, try changing the synthesizer. Also, which synthesizer are you using now?
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:04 PM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
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Gene
This is such unexpected behavior that it must be. If you are debating
reporting it, I think it is a good idea.
Gene -----Original Message-----
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From: Sam Bushman
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement I agree, however don’t want to claim a bug unless we are sure about that.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gene
it doesn’t seem likely but maybe someone will find something.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
I mean a setting in the Code Factory plugin – maybe a new setting in the new build?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gene
If you mean a setting in NVDA, I think the only thing you can do is use pitch, as you are doing.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
Hi Quentin,
Ok, I disabled all other add-ons and only had code factory add-on enabled and the problem is still there. I enabled all other add-ons and disabled the code factory add-on and my system switched to the One Core Voices and worked perfectly.
I am convinced either there is a bug in the new Code Factory add-on for eloquence or a setting needs to be reset to resolve.
I will keep working on this to see what changes might help.
In the mean time I unchecked say caps and am using pitch instead until this is resolved.
Thanks,
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Quentin Christensen
Have you tried restarting the PC. If that doesn't work, try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference. Next, try changing the synthesizer. Also, which synthesizer are you using now?
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:04 PM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
-- Quentin
Christensen
Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess |
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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
but it did not do this before. It simply announced
'cap'.
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benmoxey@...
Hi everyone
I use the standard SAPI 5 version of Eloquence, as opposed to the NVDA plug-in so I can also use it with Narrator etc.
I can confirm that this has been an on-going issue when running Narrator using the SAPI 5 version of Eloquence, even when you have it set to change pitch, rather than announce cap.
The cap announcement when using the SAPI 5 version of Eloquence with NVDA 2000.4 is working as expected.
The cap announcement when running the SAPI 5 version of Eloquence with NVDA 2021.1 is saying “c a p” before the letter.
Hope this is helpful.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2021 11:11 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
This is such unexpected behavior that it must be. If you are debating reporting it, I think it is a good idea.
Gene -----Original Message----- -----Original Message----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
I agree, however don’t want to claim a bug unless we are sure about that.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
it doesn’t seem likely but maybe someone will find something.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
I mean a setting in the Code Factory plugin – maybe a new setting in the new build?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
If you mean a setting in NVDA, I think the only thing you can do is use pitch, as you are doing.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
Hi Quentin,
Ok, I disabled all other add-ons and only had code factory add-on enabled and the problem is still there. I enabled all other add-ons and disabled the code factory add-on and my system switched to the One Core Voices and worked perfectly.
I am convinced either there is a bug in the new Code Factory add-on for eloquence or a setting needs to be reset to resolve.
I will keep working on this to see what changes might help.
In the mean time I unchecked say caps and am using pitch instead until this is resolved.
Thanks,
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Have you tried restarting the PC. If that doesn't work, try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference. Next, try changing the synthesizer. Also, which synthesizer are you using now?
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:04 PM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
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Quentin Christensen
This definitely sounds like an issue with the Code Factory voices - I would definitely let them know - at the very least, they might say "Oh yes, that's deliberate", but most likely, they will be able to look into it for you. Kind regards Quentin. On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:16 AM <benmoxey@...> wrote:
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Sam Bushman
I have already emailed there support about this. Thank you sir, Sam
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:09 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] latest NVDA caps announcement
This definitely sounds like an issue with the Code Factory voices - I would definitely let them know - at the very least, they might say "Oh yes, that's deliberate", but most likely, they will be able to look into it for you.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:16 AM <benmoxey@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
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Gianluigi Coppelletti <gianluigi@...>
Hi Sam, my suggestion is probably too simple to work, but what about adding an entry to your Eloquence dictionary? The first CAP in upper case, and the word that should be spoken in lower case. Good bye. Gigi Il 13/07/2021 13.59, Sam Bushman ha
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