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Hi guys
Has any one had the following problem using outlook? when after inserting a emoji when you go to read back what you have typed in the email it says 12 instead of the name of the emoji.
They are using windows 10 not sure which version yet and to make sure I am going to get her to update nvda she might already have I will find out shortly.
The below is what she said and I have no answer about saying emoji before it.
But, weirdly, when I select them and read back over that spot it just says 12 where each one is. Then if I send the e-mail and someone replies I can read them if I scroll down to my original e-mail. Emojis from other people are reading fine.
Is this a setting I need to change in NVDA or is it something to do with my rather outdated 2013 version of outlook. And can I set NVDA to say emoji when it reads one so I know it isn’t part of the text if it is a bit random.
_._,_._,_
So it seems she can read emojis in a email but not after it has been inserted into her email that she types up.
Any ideas?
Gene nz
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Hi guys
It looks as though if you have the following setting under speech unchecked called Include Unicode Consortium data (including emoji) when processing characters and symbols it looks as though when the emoji panel is brought up it only speaks the number of the emoji not the name and when checked will speak the emojis names one for the trouble shooting section.
I am just waiting for the person to get back to me to see if that fixes the problem it worked in notepad so can not see why not for outlook.
Gene nz
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On 28/09/2021 11:41 am, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote: Hi guys
Has any one had the following problem using outlook? when after inserting a emoji when you go to read back what you have typed in the email it says 12 instead of the name of the emoji.
They are using windows 10 not sure which version yet and to make sure I am going to get her to update nvda she might already have I will find out shortly.
The below is what she said and I have no answer about saying emoji before it.
But, weirdly, when I select them and read back over that spot it just says 12 where each one is. Then if I send the e-mail and someone replies I can read them if I scroll down to my original e-mail. Emojis from other people are reading fine.
Is this a setting I need to change in NVDA or is it something to do with my rather outdated 2013 version of outlook. And can I set NVDA to say emoji when it reads one so I know it isn’t part of the text if it is a bit random.
_._,_._,_
So it seems she can read emojis in a email but not after it has been inserted into her email that she types up.
Any ideas?
Gene nz
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Hello Gene,
I also have the problem.
I just unchecked the checkbox in the speech parameters and pressing ☹ an emoji does not change anything.
NVDA says 1 in Outlook.
Best
Sylvie
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I have for about a year now on one of my computers, but not figured out how to fix it. I thought it was just something I had accidentally changed.
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On the voice settings page (NVDA+control+v) you want to enable "Include Unicode Consortium data (including emoji) when processing characters and symbols"
"When this checkbox is checked, NVDA will include additional symbol pronunciation dictionaries when pronouncing characters and symbols. These dictionaries contain descriptions for symbols (particularly emoji) that are provided by the Unicode Consortium as part of their Common Locale Data Repository. If you want NVDA to speak descriptions of emoji characters based on this data, you should enable this option. However, if you are using a speech synthesizer that supports speaking emoji descriptions natively, you may wish to turn this off. Note that manually added or edited character descriptions are saved as part of your user settings. Therefore, if you change the description of a particular emoji, your custom description will be spoken for that emoji regardless of whether this option is enabled. You can add, edit or remove symbol descriptions in NVDA's punctuation/symbol pronunciation dialog. To toggle Unicode Consortium data inclusion from anywhere, please assign a custom gesture using the Input Gestures dialog."
Hi guys
Has any one had the following problem using outlook? when after
inserting a emoji when you go to read back what you have typed in the
email it says 12 instead of the name of the emoji.
They are using windows 10 not sure which version yet and to make sure I
am going to get her to update nvda she might already have I will find
out shortly.
The below is what she said and I have no answer about saying emoji
before it.
But, weirdly, when I select them and read back over that spot it just
says 12 where each one is. Then if I send the e-mail and someone
replies I can read them if I scroll down to my original e-mail. Emojis
from other people are reading fine.
Is this a setting I need to change in NVDA or is it something to do with
my rather outdated 2013 version of outlook. And can I set NVDA to say
emoji when it reads one so I know it isn’t part of the text if it is a
bit random.
_._,_._,_
So it seems she can read emojis in a email but not after it has been
inserted into her email that she types up.
Any ideas?
Gene nz
-- Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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Hi Quentin
The lady I have been talking to via email say what happens goes
like this.
she goes into outlook and does a new email. In the body of the
email she will type up some stuff. If then she uses the Windows
key + . to bring up the emoji panel when she arrows around the
emojis are spoken out correctly She presses the enter key on the
one she wants it is then inserted into the email. Then she will
press the escape key to close the panel So if she types more and
then adds more text and emojis it is not until it is when she
goes to review the email it says 12 in place of the emoji.
So the example would be I saw a emoji police car today and a fire
emoji engine down the street.
The word emoji is not spoken out but it was more to let you know
it was in the email.
so when she goes to read it back with the arrow keys she gets the
following in the email.
So the example would be I saw a 12today and 12down the street.
She is using Windows 10 and nvda 2021.2. I think she said it also
happened in word when she went to review the document where she
had inserted them.
Those settings were checked you gave. I have told her what to do
about setting to debug level recreating the problem in the program
and sending me back the log so I can do a ticket.
She said when some one sends her a email with emojis in it they
are spoken out correctly but not in the part where you type stuff
inserting a emoji then reading back the email to send it that is
where the problem is. She does not have a braille display she is
hearing it.
Apparently I have seen 2 or 3 others on the list with the same
problem in the thread.
Gene nz
On 29/09/2021 2:13 pm, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On the voice settings page (NVDA+control+v) you
want to enable "Include Unicode Consortium data (including
emoji) when processing characters and symbols"
"When this checkbox is checked, NVDA will include
additional symbol pronunciation dictionaries when pronouncing
characters and symbols. These dictionaries contain
descriptions for symbols (particularly emoji) that are
provided by the Unicode Consortium as part of their Common
Locale Data Repository. If you want NVDA to speak descriptions
of emoji characters based on this data, you should enable this
option. However, if you are using a speech synthesizer that
supports speaking emoji descriptions natively, you may wish to
turn this off.
Note that manually added or edited character descriptions are
saved as part of your user settings. Therefore, if you change
the description of a particular emoji, your custom description
will be spoken for that emoji regardless of whether this option
is enabled. You can add, edit or remove symbol descriptions in
NVDA's punctuation/symbol pronunciation dialog.
To toggle Unicode Consortium data inclusion from anywhere,
please assign a custom gesture using the Input Gestures dialog."
Hi
guys
Has any one had the following problem using outlook? when
after
inserting a emoji when you go to read back what you have typed
in the
email it says 12 instead of the name of the emoji.
They are using windows 10 not sure which version yet and to
make sure I
am going to get her to update nvda she might already have I
will find
out shortly.
The below is what she said and I have no answer about saying
emoji
before it.
But, weirdly, when I select them and read back over that spot
it just
says 12 where each one is. Then if I send the e-mail and
someone
replies I can read them if I scroll down to my original
e-mail. Emojis
from other people are reading fine.
Is this a setting I need to change in NVDA or is it something
to do with
my rather outdated 2013 version of outlook. And can I set
NVDA to say
emoji when it reads one so I know it isn’t part of the text if
it is a
bit random.
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Ah I just explored a bit more - I am using NVDA 2021.2 Windows 10 (64-bit) Version: 2009, Build: 19043 Office 365 (64-bit) Version: 16.0.14326.20384
This happens at least on my pc when I have NVDA set NOT to use UI Automation in Word. If you go into NVDA's advanced controls and check that option:
1. Press NVDA+control+g to open options 2. Press CONTROL+SHIFT+TAB to the "Advanced" category. 3. Press spacebar to acknowledge the "I understand...." warning. 4. Press TAB until the focus is on "Use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word Document Controls". 5. Press SPACEBAR to check this. 6. Press ENTER.
Now emoji's should be read correctly.
Quentin
Hi Quentin
The lady I have been talking to via email say what happens goes
like this.
she goes into outlook and does a new email. In the body of the
email she will type up some stuff. If then she uses the Windows
key + . to bring up the emoji panel when she arrows around the
emojis are spoken out correctly She presses the enter key on the
one she wants it is then inserted into the email. Then she will
press the escape key to close the panel So if she types more and
then adds more text and emojis it is not until it is when she
goes to review the email it says 12 in place of the emoji.
So the example would be I saw a emoji police car today and a fire
emoji engine down the street.
The word emoji is not spoken out but it was more to let you know
it was in the email.
so when she goes to read it back with the arrow keys she gets the
following in the email.
So the example would be I saw a 12today and 12down the street.
She is using Windows 10 and nvda 2021.2. I think she said it also
happened in word when she went to review the document where she
had inserted them.
Those settings were checked you gave. I have told her what to do
about setting to debug level recreating the problem in the program
and sending me back the log so I can do a ticket.
She said when some one sends her a email with emojis in it they
are spoken out correctly but not in the part where you type stuff
inserting a emoji then reading back the email to send it that is
where the problem is. She does not have a braille display she is
hearing it.
Apparently I have seen 2 or 3 others on the list with the same
problem in the thread.
Gene nz
On 29/09/2021 2:13 pm, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
On the voice settings page (NVDA+control+v) you
want to enable "Include Unicode Consortium data (including
emoji) when processing characters and symbols"
"When this checkbox is checked, NVDA will include
additional symbol pronunciation dictionaries when pronouncing
characters and symbols. These dictionaries contain
descriptions for symbols (particularly emoji) that are
provided by the Unicode Consortium as part of their Common
Locale Data Repository. If you want NVDA to speak descriptions
of emoji characters based on this data, you should enable this
option. However, if you are using a speech synthesizer that
supports speaking emoji descriptions natively, you may wish to
turn this off.
Note that manually added or edited character descriptions are
saved as part of your user settings. Therefore, if you change
the description of a particular emoji, your custom description
will be spoken for that emoji regardless of whether this option
is enabled. You can add, edit or remove symbol descriptions in
NVDA's punctuation/symbol pronunciation dialog.
To toggle Unicode Consortium data inclusion from anywhere,
please assign a custom gesture using the Input Gestures dialog."
Hi
guys
Has any one had the following problem using outlook? when
after
inserting a emoji when you go to read back what you have typed
in the
email it says 12 instead of the name of the emoji.
They are using windows 10 not sure which version yet and to
make sure I
am going to get her to update nvda she might already have I
will find
out shortly.
The below is what she said and I have no answer about saying
emoji
before it.
But, weirdly, when I select them and read back over that spot
it just
says 12 where each one is. Then if I send the e-mail and
someone
replies I can read them if I scroll down to my original
e-mail. Emojis
from other people are reading fine.
Is this a setting I need to change in NVDA or is it something
to do with
my rather outdated 2013 version of outlook. And can I set
NVDA to say
emoji when it reads one so I know it isn’t part of the text if
it is a
bit random.
-- Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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Hi Quentin
I will pass on the information you gave me to her and see what
happens.
I will see if it does the job in word and do you know if it will
do it for outlook as well. I just looked in the advanced settings
saw it for word but not outlook as well does that use word code?
I also saw it for some others.
If things work correctly should I tell her to save her settings.
Any other info to pass on?
Any problems for me to note.
She might take a couple of days to get back to me.
If the problems are fixed should i then not do a ticket? or let
her try it for a week or so before we go any further.
Gene nz
On 29/09/2021 5:19 pm, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Ah I just explored a bit more - I am using NVDA
2021.2
Windows 10 (64-bit) Version: 2009, Build: 19043
Office 365 (64-bit) Version: 16.0.14326.20384
This happens at least on my pc when I have NVDA set NOT to
use UI Automation in Word. If you go into NVDA's advanced
controls and check that option:
1. Press NVDA+control+g to open options
2. Press CONTROL+SHIFT+TAB to the "Advanced" category.
3. Press spacebar to acknowledge the "I understand...."
warning.
4. Press TAB until the focus is on "Use UI Automation to
access Microsoft Word Document Controls".
5. Press SPACEBAR to check this.
6. Press ENTER.
Now emoji's should be read correctly.
Quentin
Hi Quentin
The lady I have been talking to via email say what
happens goes like this.
she goes into outlook and does a new email. In the body
of the email she will type up some stuff. If then she uses
the Windows key + . to bring up the emoji panel when she
arrows around the emojis are spoken out correctly She
presses the enter key on the one she wants it is then
inserted into the email. Then she will press the escape
key to close the panel So if she types more and then adds
more text and emojis it is not until it is when she goes
to review the email it says 12 in place of the emoji.
So the example would be I saw a emoji police car today
and a fire emoji engine down the street.
The word emoji is not spoken out but it was more to let
you know it was in the email.
so when she goes to read it back with the arrow keys she
gets the following in the email.
So the example would be I saw a 12today and 12down the
street.
She is using Windows 10 and nvda 2021.2. I think she said
it also happened in word when she went to review the
document where she had inserted them.
Those settings were checked you gave. I have told her
what to do about setting to debug level recreating the
problem in the program and sending me back the log so I
can do a ticket.
She said when some one sends her a email with emojis in
it they are spoken out correctly but not in the part where
you type stuff inserting a emoji then reading back the
email to send it that is where the problem is. She does
not have a braille display she is hearing it.
Apparently I have seen 2 or 3 others on the list with the
same problem in the thread.
Gene nz
On 29/09/2021 2:13 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
On the voice settings page (NVDA+control+v)
you want to enable "Include Unicode Consortium data
(including emoji) when processing characters and
symbols"
"When this checkbox is checked, NVDA will include
additional symbol pronunciation dictionaries when
pronouncing characters and symbols. These dictionaries
contain descriptions for symbols (particularly emoji)
that are provided by the Unicode Consortium as part of
their Common Locale Data Repository. If you want NVDA
to speak descriptions of emoji characters based on
this data, you should enable this option. However, if
you are using a speech synthesizer that supports
speaking emoji descriptions natively, you may wish to
turn this off.
Note that manually added or edited character
descriptions are saved as part of your user settings.
Therefore, if you change the description of a particular
emoji, your custom description will be spoken for that
emoji regardless of whether this option is enabled. You
can add, edit or remove symbol descriptions in NVDA's
punctuation/symbol pronunciation dialog.
To toggle Unicode Consortium data inclusion from
anywhere, please assign a custom gesture using the Input
Gestures dialog."
Hi guys
Has any one had the following problem using outlook?
when after
inserting a emoji when you go to read back what you
have typed in the
email it says 12 instead of the name of the emoji.
They are using windows 10 not sure which version yet
and to make sure I
am going to get her to update nvda she might already
have I will find
out shortly.
The below is what she said and I have no answer about
saying emoji
before it.
But, weirdly, when I select them and read back over
that spot it just
says 12 where each one is. Then if I send the e-mail
and someone
replies I can read them if I scroll down to my
original e-mail. Emojis
from other people are reading fine.
Is this a setting I need to change in NVDA or is it
something to do with
my rather outdated 2013 version of outlook. And can I
set NVDA to say
emoji when it reads one so I know it isn’t part of the
text if it is a
bit random.
--
Quentin
Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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Outlook essentially treats emails like Word documents, so yes that setting applies to both Word and to emails in Outlook.
I'm not sure which version of Office she has, I think for newer builds, using UIA fixes a number of issues we can't otherwise address and will soon be the default.
Kind regards
Quentin.
Hi Quentin
I will pass on the information you gave me to her and see what
happens.
I will see if it does the job in word and do you know if it will
do it for outlook as well. I just looked in the advanced settings
saw it for word but not outlook as well does that use word code?
I also saw it for some others.
If things work correctly should I tell her to save her settings.
Any other info to pass on?
Any problems for me to note.
She might take a couple of days to get back to me.
If the problems are fixed should i then not do a ticket? or let
her try it for a week or so before we go any further.
Gene nz
On 29/09/2021 5:19 pm, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
Ah I just explored a bit more - I am using NVDA
2021.2
Windows 10 (64-bit) Version: 2009, Build: 19043
Office 365 (64-bit) Version: 16.0.14326.20384
This happens at least on my pc when I have NVDA set NOT to
use UI Automation in Word. If you go into NVDA's advanced
controls and check that option:
1. Press NVDA+control+g to open options
2. Press CONTROL+SHIFT+TAB to the "Advanced" category.
3. Press spacebar to acknowledge the "I understand...."
warning.
4. Press TAB until the focus is on "Use UI Automation to
access Microsoft Word Document Controls".
5. Press SPACEBAR to check this.
6. Press ENTER.
Now emoji's should be read correctly.
Quentin
Hi Quentin
The lady I have been talking to via email say what
happens goes like this.
she goes into outlook and does a new email. In the body
of the email she will type up some stuff. If then she uses
the Windows key + . to bring up the emoji panel when she
arrows around the emojis are spoken out correctly She
presses the enter key on the one she wants it is then
inserted into the email. Then she will press the escape
key to close the panel So if she types more and then adds
more text and emojis it is not until it is when she goes
to review the email it says 12 in place of the emoji.
So the example would be I saw a emoji police car today
and a fire emoji engine down the street.
The word emoji is not spoken out but it was more to let
you know it was in the email.
so when she goes to read it back with the arrow keys she
gets the following in the email.
So the example would be I saw a 12today and 12down the
street.
She is using Windows 10 and nvda 2021.2. I think she said
it also happened in word when she went to review the
document where she had inserted them.
Those settings were checked you gave. I have told her
what to do about setting to debug level recreating the
problem in the program and sending me back the log so I
can do a ticket.
She said when some one sends her a email with emojis in
it they are spoken out correctly but not in the part where
you type stuff inserting a emoji then reading back the
email to send it that is where the problem is. She does
not have a braille display she is hearing it.
Apparently I have seen 2 or 3 others on the list with the
same problem in the thread.
Gene nz
On 29/09/2021 2:13 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
On the voice settings page (NVDA+control+v)
you want to enable "Include Unicode Consortium data
(including emoji) when processing characters and
symbols"
"When this checkbox is checked, NVDA will include
additional symbol pronunciation dictionaries when
pronouncing characters and symbols. These dictionaries
contain descriptions for symbols (particularly emoji)
that are provided by the Unicode Consortium as part of
their Common Locale Data Repository. If you want NVDA
to speak descriptions of emoji characters based on
this data, you should enable this option. However, if
you are using a speech synthesizer that supports
speaking emoji descriptions natively, you may wish to
turn this off.
Note that manually added or edited character
descriptions are saved as part of your user settings.
Therefore, if you change the description of a particular
emoji, your custom description will be spoken for that
emoji regardless of whether this option is enabled. You
can add, edit or remove symbol descriptions in NVDA's
punctuation/symbol pronunciation dialog.
To toggle Unicode Consortium data inclusion from
anywhere, please assign a custom gesture using the Input
Gestures dialog."
Hi guys
Has any one had the following problem using outlook?
when after
inserting a emoji when you go to read back what you
have typed in the
email it says 12 instead of the name of the emoji.
They are using windows 10 not sure which version yet
and to make sure I
am going to get her to update nvda she might already
have I will find
out shortly.
The below is what she said and I have no answer about
saying emoji
before it.
But, weirdly, when I select them and read back over
that spot it just
says 12 where each one is. Then if I send the e-mail
and someone
replies I can read them if I scroll down to my
original e-mail. Emojis
from other people are reading fine.
Is this a setting I need to change in NVDA or is it
something to do with
my rather outdated 2013 version of outlook. And can I
set NVDA to say
emoji when it reads one so I know it isn’t part of the
text if it is a
bit random.
--
Quentin
Christensen
Training and Support Manager
-- Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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I too have noticed this behavior for several years but it never bothered me enough to consider asking about it. I’m glad somebody else did! Sounds like the fix is just a checkbox away. Thanks for bringing up the question and thanks Quentin for the answer.
On Sep 28, 2021, at 11:15 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Outlook essentially treats emails like Word documents, so yes that setting applies to both Word and to emails in Outlook.
I'm not sure which version of Office she has, I think for newer builds, using UIA fixes a number of issues we can't otherwise address and will soon be the default.
Kind regards
Quentin.
Hi Quentin
I will pass on the information you gave me to her and see what
happens.
I will see if it does the job in word and do you know if it will
do it for outlook as well. I just looked in the advanced settings
saw it for word but not outlook as well does that use word code?
I also saw it for some others.
If things work correctly should I tell her to save her settings.
Any other info to pass on?
Any problems for me to note.
She might take a couple of days to get back to me.
If the problems are fixed should i then not do a ticket? or let
her try it for a week or so before we go any further.
Gene nz
On 29/09/2021 5:19 pm, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
Ah I just explored a bit more - I am using NVDA
2021.2
Windows 10 (64-bit) Version: 2009, Build: 19043
Office 365 (64-bit) Version: 16.0.14326.20384
This happens at least on my pc when I have NVDA set NOT to
use UI Automation in Word. If you go into NVDA's advanced
controls and check that option:
1. Press NVDA+control+g to open options
2. Press CONTROL+SHIFT+TAB to the "Advanced" category.
3. Press spacebar to acknowledge the "I understand...."
warning.
4. Press TAB until the focus is on "Use UI Automation to
access Microsoft Word Document Controls".
5. Press SPACEBAR to check this.
6. Press ENTER.
Now emoji's should be read correctly.
Quentin
Hi Quentin
The lady I have been talking to via email say what
happens goes like this.
she goes into outlook and does a new email. In the body
of the email she will type up some stuff. If then she uses
the Windows key + . to bring up the emoji panel when she
arrows around the emojis are spoken out correctly She
presses the enter key on the one she wants it is then
inserted into the email. Then she will press the escape
key to close the panel So if she types more and then adds
more text and emojis it is not until it is when she goes
to review the email it says 12 in place of the emoji.
So the example would be I saw a emoji police car today
and a fire emoji engine down the street.
The word emoji is not spoken out but it was more to let
you know it was in the email.
so when she goes to read it back with the arrow keys she
gets the following in the email.
So the example would be I saw a 12today and 12down the
street.
She is using Windows 10 and nvda 2021.2. I think she said
it also happened in word when she went to review the
document where she had inserted them.
Those settings were checked you gave. I have told her
what to do about setting to debug level recreating the
problem in the program and sending me back the log so I
can do a ticket.
She said when some one sends her a email with emojis in
it they are spoken out correctly but not in the part where
you type stuff inserting a emoji then reading back the
email to send it that is where the problem is. She does
not have a braille display she is hearing it.
Apparently I have seen 2 or 3 others on the list with the
same problem in the thread.
Gene nz
On 29/09/2021 2:13 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
On the voice settings page (NVDA+control+v)
you want to enable "Include Unicode Consortium data
(including emoji) when processing characters and
symbols"
"When this checkbox is checked, NVDA will include
additional symbol pronunciation dictionaries when
pronouncing characters and symbols. These dictionaries
contain descriptions for symbols (particularly emoji)
that are provided by the Unicode Consortium as part of
their Common Locale Data Repository. If you want NVDA
to speak descriptions of emoji characters based on
this data, you should enable this option. However, if
you are using a speech synthesizer that supports
speaking emoji descriptions natively, you may wish to
turn this off.
Note that manually added or edited character
descriptions are saved as part of your user settings.
Therefore, if you change the description of a particular
emoji, your custom description will be spoken for that
emoji regardless of whether this option is enabled. You
can add, edit or remove symbol descriptions in NVDA's
punctuation/symbol pronunciation dialog.
To toggle Unicode Consortium data inclusion from
anywhere, please assign a custom gesture using the Input
Gestures dialog."
Hi guys
Has any one had the following problem using outlook?
when after
inserting a emoji when you go to read back what you
have typed in the
email it says 12 instead of the name of the emoji.
They are using windows 10 not sure which version yet
and to make sure I
am going to get her to update nvda she might already
have I will find
out shortly.
The below is what she said and I have no answer about
saying emoji
before it.
But, weirdly, when I select them and read back over
that spot it just
says 12 where each one is. Then if I send the e-mail
and someone
replies I can read them if I scroll down to my
original e-mail. Emojis
from other people are reading fine.
Is this a setting I need to change in NVDA or is it
something to do with
my rather outdated 2013 version of outlook. And can I
set NVDA to say
emoji when it reads one so I know it isn’t part of the
text if it is a
bit random.
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Quentin
Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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Training and Support Manager
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Hello Quentin and all, 4. Press TAB until the focus is > on "Use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word Document Controls".
5. Press SPACEBAR to check this. Well, this works fine for me 👍 Thx Yeti
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Hi Quentin
I got the following back from her last night and have asked her
to try it in the next few days. It sounds like it done the trick.
Her reply is below.
Wahoo Gene you are a miracle worker!
I just thought after getting those emojis working that I should
open a word document and test out my music symbols.
And guess what, they all read now!!!
This is huge as it means I can use the rhythm symbols plus letters
to create my own music short hand to write out info from kids
workbooks that have otherwise been completely inaccessible.
Thank you so much for your help.
Well, have done that, so let’s test it.
Here comes an emoji
👍
Well I chose the above emoji in faith that it had worked and it
now reads thumbs up!
Wahoo, pass my thanks on to Quinton.
I am thinking this one is done in outlook?
Should I still get her other info or just leave it as it sounds
like the problem is fixed I will know more in the next few days.
Gene nz
On 29/09/2021 7:14 pm, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
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Outlook essentially treats emails like Word
documents, so yes that setting applies to both Word and to
emails in Outlook.
I'm not sure which version of Office she has, I think for
newer builds, using UIA fixes a number of issues we can't
otherwise address and will soon be the default.
Kind regards
Quentin.
Hi Quentin
I will pass on the information you gave me to her and see
what happens.
I will see if it does the job in word and do you know if
it will do it for outlook as well. I just looked in the
advanced settings saw it for word but not outlook as well
does that use word code? I also saw it for some others.
If things work correctly should I tell her to save her
settings.
Any other info to pass on?
Any problems for me to note.
She might take a couple of days to get back to me.
If the problems are fixed should i then not do a ticket?
or let her try it for a week or so before we go any
further.
Gene nz
On 29/09/2021 5:19 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Ah I just explored a bit more - I am using
NVDA 2021.2
Windows 10 (64-bit) Version: 2009, Build: 19043
Office 365 (64-bit) Version: 16.0.14326.20384
This happens at least on my pc when I have NVDA set
NOT to use UI Automation in Word. If you go into
NVDA's advanced controls and check that option:
1. Press NVDA+control+g to open options
2. Press CONTROL+SHIFT+TAB to the "Advanced"
category.
3. Press spacebar to acknowledge the "I
understand...." warning.
4. Press TAB until the focus is on "Use UI
Automation to access Microsoft Word Document
Controls".
5. Press SPACEBAR to check this.
6. Press ENTER.
Now emoji's should be read correctly.
Quentin
Hi Quentin
The lady I have been talking to via email say
what happens goes like this.
she goes into outlook and does a new email. In
the body of the email she will type up some stuff.
If then she uses the Windows key + . to bring up
the emoji panel when she arrows around the emojis
are spoken out correctly She presses the enter key
on the one she wants it is then inserted into the
email. Then she will press the escape key to close
the panel So if she types more and then adds more
text and emojis it is not until it is when she
goes to review the email it says 12 in place of
the emoji.
So the example would be I saw a emoji police car
today and a fire emoji engine down the street.
The word emoji is not spoken out but it was more
to let you know it was in the email.
so when she goes to read it back with the arrow
keys she gets the following in the email.
So the example would be I saw a 12today and
12down the street.
She is using Windows 10 and nvda 2021.2. I think
she said it also happened in word when she went to
review the document where she had inserted them.
Those settings were checked you gave. I have told
her what to do about setting to debug level
recreating the problem in the program and sending
me back the log so I can do a ticket.
She said when some one sends her a email with
emojis in it they are spoken out correctly but not
in the part where you type stuff inserting a emoji
then reading back the email to send it that is
where the problem is. She does not have a braille
display she is hearing it.
Apparently I have seen 2 or 3 others on the list
with the same problem in the thread.
Gene nz
On 29/09/2021 2:13 pm, Quentin Christensen
wrote:
On the voice settings page
(NVDA+control+v) you want to enable "Include
Unicode Consortium data (including emoji) when
processing characters and symbols"
"When this checkbox is checked, NVDA will
include additional symbol pronunciation
dictionaries when pronouncing characters and
symbols. These dictionaries contain
descriptions for symbols (particularly emoji)
that are provided by the Unicode Consortium as
part of their Common Locale Data Repository.
If you want NVDA to speak descriptions of
emoji characters based on this data, you
should enable this option. However, if you are
using a speech synthesizer that supports
speaking emoji descriptions natively, you may
wish to turn this off.
Note that manually added or edited character
descriptions are saved as part of your user
settings. Therefore, if you change the
description of a particular emoji, your custom
description will be spoken for that emoji
regardless of whether this option is enabled.
You can add, edit or remove symbol descriptions
in NVDA's punctuation/symbol pronunciation
dialog.
To toggle Unicode Consortium data inclusion from
anywhere, please assign a custom gesture using
the Input Gestures dialog."
Hi guys
Has any one had the following problem using
outlook? when after
inserting a emoji when you go to read back
what you have typed in the
email it says 12 instead of the name of the
emoji.
They are using windows 10 not sure which
version yet and to make sure I
am going to get her to update nvda she might
already have I will find
out shortly.
The below is what she said and I have no
answer about saying emoji
before it.
But, weirdly, when I select them and read back
over that spot it just
says 12 where each one is. Then if I send the
e-mail and someone
replies I can read them if I scroll down to my
original e-mail. Emojis
from other people are reading fine.
Is this a setting I need to change in NVDA or
is it something to do with
my rather outdated 2013 version of outlook.
And can I set NVDA to say
emoji when it reads one so I know it isn’t
part of the text if it is a
bit random.
--
Quentin
Christensen
Training and Support
Manager
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Quentin
Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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