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supressing announcement of row and column in a web table
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Mary Otten
I visit a grocery store website which has its sale items laid out in a very nice table, with columns headed things like location, brand, item, price etc. In addition, each item in the table is, for some reason, marked as a heading level 3. I can stop the readout of the heading messages by temporarily shutting off the reporting of headings in the nvda settings for elements grouping. I also turned off the reading of column and row headings, although that didn't do anything, and I can't find a way to stop the announcement of row and column numbers either. I want to just get into the column that lists the items and go straight down with control alt down arrow, and when I do that, I do not want to hear row such and such, column such and such, as it is totally not needed in this situation. Is there a way to do this?
Mary
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hurrikennyandopo ...
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Have a look under the document formating section /menu then go down to tables and uncheck that box it will stop that. It will just read as normal. I think it is in the beta release you can use a gesture to turn it on and off when required if set. Maybe it could of been in there earlier. Gene nz
On 1/11/2021 11:46 am, Mary Otten wrote:
I visit a grocery store website which has its sale items laid out in a very nice table, with columns headed things like location, brand, item, price etc. In addition, each item in the table is, for some reason, marked as a heading level 3. I can stop the readout of the heading messages by temporarily shutting off the reporting of headings in the nvda settings for elements grouping. I also turned off the reading of column and row headings, although that didn't do anything, and I can't find a way to stop the announcement of row and column numbers either. I want to just get into the column that lists the items and go straight down with control alt down arrow, and when I do that, I do not want to hear row such and such, column such and such, as it is totally not needed in this situation. Is there a way to do this?
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Gene
If you turn off everything regarding tables, you shouldn’t hear such
information. Let us know if you do. And if you still do, please send
the link to the page so others can see what they hear, unless the page can’t be
looked at by people in general.
I’m not sure the table off commands always work properly. Sometimes,
I hear table information when I am in a subfolder in Windows Explorer when I
shouldn’t. That’s in Windows 7, so it may be that for some reason, turning
off that information may not work in the table you are in. This may need
further checking by others.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 5:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] supressing announcement of row and column in a web
table I
visit a grocery store website which has its sale items laid out in a very nice table, with columns headed things like location, brand, item, price etc. In addition, each item in the table is, for some reason, marked as a heading level 3. I can stop the readout of the heading messages by temporarily shutting off the reporting of headings in the nvda settings for elements grouping. I also turned off the reading of column and row headings, although that didn't do anything, and I can't find a way to stop the announcement of row and column numbers either. I want to just get into the column that lists the items and go straight down with control alt down arrow, and when I do that, I do not want to hear row such and such, column such and such, as it is totally not needed in this situation. Is there a way to do this? Mary
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Mary Otten
Thanks. I saw that item but thought it would disable the recognition of tables, and I didn't want that, as I need to find the table and then navigate my chosen column. Guess I should have just tried it first rather than assuming.
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Mary
On 10/31/2021 3:52 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
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Gene
If you mean by recognition, that using the letter t won’t work, it has
nothing to do with that. All such settings are for spoken announcements
and all movement commands wwork as they did before. For example, I can
turn off if I turn off heading announcements and all movement by heading
commands still work.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] supressing announcement of row and column in a
web table Thanks.
I saw that item but thought it would disable the recognition of tables, and I didn't want that, as I need to find the table and then navigate my chosen column. Guess I should have just tried it first rather than assuming. Mary On 10/31/2021 3:52 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote: > Hi > > > Have a look under the document formating section /menu then go down to > tables and uncheck that box it will stop that. > > > It will just read as normal. > > > I think it is in the beta release you can use a gesture to turn it on > and off when required if set. Maybe it could of been in there earlier. > > > Gene nz > > > On 1/11/2021 11:46 am, Mary Otten wrote: >> I visit a grocery store website which has its sale items laid out in >> a very nice table, with columns headed things like location, brand, >> item, price etc. In addition, each item in the table is, for some >> reason, marked as a heading level 3. I can stop the readout of the >> heading messages by temporarily shutting off the reporting of >> headings in the nvda settings for elements grouping. I also turned >> off the reading of column and row headings, although that didn't do >> anything, and I can't find a way to stop the announcement of row and >> column numbers either. I want to just get into the column that lists >> the items and go straight down with control alt down arrow, and when >> I do that, I do not want to hear row such and such, column such and >> such, as it is totally not needed in this situation. Is there a way >> to do this? >> >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
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Mary Otten
Interesting about the movement commands. ;In that table I've been talking about, where each item in the grid is labeled as a heading level 3, with headings unchecked, I can not move by headings in that table, not that I want to. But On another page, those commands still work as expected. I'm not sure what might be "special" about those heading level 3s, but they are not recognized if I try moving with h to move from heading to heading. No big deal; I see no reason for them to be there in the first place.
Mary
On 10/31/2021 4:00 PM, Gene wrote:
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Jujube
Hi, you could try disabling all table reading in document settings and then going into browse mode settings and turning on "include layout tables". That may or may not work I guess. Otherwise, this could just be due to the design of the tables themselves which I don't think we can get around as screen reader users. HOpe this helps.
On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 3:46 PM Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote: I visit a grocery store website which has its sale items laid out in a
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Gene
Layout tables appears to no longer be in the settings. But if you
have it, it has nothing to do with this problem and if you chec it, you will get
verbosity you probably don’t want. It means to announce when a layout
table, used for formatting, is encountered. This table isn’t a layout
table. It has nothing to do with formatting the page or part of it.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Jujube
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] supressing announcement of row and column in a
web table Hi, you could try disabling all table reading in document settings
and then going into browse mode settings and turning on "include layout tables".
That may or may not work I guess. Otherwise, this could just be due to the
design of the tables themselves which I don't think we can get around as screen
reader users. HOpe this helps.
On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 3:46 PM Mary Otten <maryotten@...>
wrote:
I visit a grocery store website which has its sale items laid out in a
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