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Hello all,
Having worked on the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a newbie to Windows and NVDA which I am learning through the user guide and enjoying it.
A RTF editor is a must for what I do and I chose Wordpad (I will welcome ideas for any better NVDA-accessible and free editors). I don’t know what setting would make NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move to a new line. Setting the ‘Speak commands’ option on does speak it but speaks all other commands I press in the process.
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks,.
Warmly,
Mani
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Sarah k Alawami
I recommend Jarte. It is no longer being made, but it is one of my favorite programs to use for an RTF editor and a docx viewer.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
Hello all,
Having worked on the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a newbie to Windows and NVDA which I am learning through the user guide and enjoying it.
A RTF editor is a must for what I do and I chose Wordpad (I will welcome ideas for any better NVDA-accessible and free editors). I don’t know what setting would make NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move to a new line. Setting the ‘Speak commands’ option on does speak it but speaks all other commands I press in the process.
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks,.
Warmly,
Mani
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Good to hear from you again after a long time. :)
Thank you Sarah. But you have no idea as to why NVDA does not speak the enter key on Wordpad?
Mani
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On Nov 17, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
I recommend Jarte. It is no longer being made, but it is one of my favorite programs to use for an RTF editor and a docx viewer.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
Hello all,
Having worked on the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a newbie to Windows and NVDA which I am learning through the user guide and enjoying it.
A RTF editor is a must for what I do and I chose Wordpad (I will welcome ideas for any better NVDA-accessible and free editors). I don’t know what setting would make NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move to a new line. Setting the ‘Speak commands’ option on does speak it but speaks all other commands I press in the process.
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks,.
Warmly,
Mani
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Others mahy know of an add-on for this purpose, but I know of none and
there is no command in NVDA for this purpose.
Gene
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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 9:55 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in
Wordpad
Hello
all,
Having worked on the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a newbie to
Windows and NVDA which I am learning through the user guide and enjoying it.
A RTF editor is a must for what I do and I chose Wordpad (I will welcome
ideas for any better NVDA-accessible and free editors). I don’t know what
setting would make NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move to a new line.
Setting the ‘Speak commands’ option on does speak it but speaks all other
commands I press in the process.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks,.
Warmly,
Mani
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NVDA doesn’t speak any command keys by default. You already know what
happens when you turn speak command keys on.
You may find that you quickly get used to not hearing enter. You may
expect it since you evidently have heard it in the past but giving not hearing
it a chance for perhaps a few days or a week may get you used to not hearing it
and it may not matter any longer.
I believe the option should be available. People should be able to
choose which command keys they hear, but since I know of no way they can, if you
get used to not hearing it quickly, the problem may not matter shortly.
Gene
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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in
Wordpad
Good
to hear from you again after a long time. :)
Thank you Sarah. But you have no
idea as to why NVDA does not speak the enter key on
Wordpad?
Mani
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Sarah k
Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
>
> I recommend Jarte. It
is no longer being made, but it is one of my favorite programs to use for an RTF
editor and a docx viewer.
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021
7:56 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] NVDA speechless
on the enter key in Wordpad
>
> Hello all,
> Having worked on
the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a newbie to Windows and NVDA which I
am learning through the user guide and enjoying it.
> A RTF editor is a
must for what I do and I chose Wordpad (I will welcome ideas for any better
NVDA-accessible and free editors). I don’t know what setting would make
NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move to a new line. Setting the ‘Speak
commands’ option on does speak it but speaks all other commands I press in the
process.
>
> Any help will be appreciated. Thanks,.
>
> Warmly,
> Mani
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Hello Gene, I wouldn’t mind having the “Speak commands’ turned on when in Wordpad but elsewhere it gets annoying! I wish there was a command to quickly turn ‘Speak commands’ on and off. Well if not, I will have to get used to the silence. :)
Mani
On Nov 17, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Gene < gsasner@...> wrote:
NVDA doesn’t speak any command keys by default. You already know what
happens when you turn speak command keys on.
You may find that you quickly get used to not hearing enter. You may
expect it since you evidently have heard it in the past but giving not hearing
it a chance for perhaps a few days or a week may get you used to not hearing it
and it may not matter any longer.
I believe the option should be available. People should be able to
choose which command keys they hear, but since I know of no way they can, if you
get used to not hearing it quickly, the problem may not matter shortly.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in
Wordpad
Good
to hear from you again after a long time. :) Thank you Sarah. But you have no
idea as to why NVDA does not speak the enter key on
Wordpad? Mani > On Nov 17, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Sarah k
Alawami < marrie12@...> wrote: > > I recommend Jarte. It
is no longer being made, but it is one of my favorite programs to use for an RTF
editor and a docx viewer. > > -----Original
Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io < nvda@nvda.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021
7:56 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: [nvda] NVDA speechless
on the enter key in Wordpad > > Hello all, > Having worked on
the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a newbie to Windows and NVDA which I
am learning through the user guide and enjoying it. > A RTF editor is a
must for what I do and I chose Wordpad (I will welcome ideas for any better
NVDA-accessible and free editors). I don’t know what setting would make
NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move to a new line. Setting the ‘Speak
commands’ option on does speak it but speaks all other commands I press in the
process. > > Any help will be appreciated. Thanks,. >
> Warmly, > Mani > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:49 PM, Mani Iyer wrote:
I wish there was a command to quickly turn ‘Speak commands’ on and off.
- Or you could just create an configuration profile for WordPad where you have NVDA Speak Commands enabled with automatic triggering. Then this automatically comes on if and only if WordPad has focus, and is not on elsewhere. Configuration profiles are great for this purpose. Bring up the NVDA User Guide in your browser, NVDA + N, H, U, and read through section 12.4 --
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043
The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.
~ John F. Kennedy
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Thank you for the nice tip, Brian. I will certainly try this.
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:49 PM, Mani Iyer wrote:
I wish there was a command to quickly turn ‘Speak commands’ on and off.
- Or you could just create an configuration profile for WordPad where you have NVDA Speak Commands enabled with automatic triggering. Then this automatically comes on if and only if WordPad has focus, and is not on elsewhere. Configuration profiles are great for this purpose. Bring up the NVDA User Guide in your browser, NVDA + N, H, U, and read through section 12.4 -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
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Hi Mani Note that you can also toggle the speaking of command keys on or off at any time by pressing NVDA + 4 (on the number row). Cheers Ben
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2021 5:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad Thank you for the nice tip, Brian. I will certainly try this. mani
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:49 PM, Mani Iyer wrote: I wish there was a command to quickly turn ‘Speak commands’ on and off.
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Or you could just create an configuration profile for WordPad where you have NVDA Speak Commands enabled with automatic triggering. Then this automatically comes on if and only if WordPad has focus, and is not on elsewhere.
Configuration profiles are great for this purpose. Bring up the NVDA User Guide in your browser, NVDA + N, H, U, and read through section 12.4
-- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
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If you don’t mind hearing all the commands spoken, you can set up a profile
that would automatically turn them on in Wordpad or the specific editor you want
to use. I haven’t worked with profiles to any extent so I’ll let others
discuss them. But the profile can be made to function automatically when
you run a specific editor.
Gene
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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in
Wordpad
Hello
Gene,
I wouldn’t mind having the “Speak commands’ turned on when in Wordpad but
elsewhere it gets annoying! I wish there was a command to quickly turn ‘Speak
commands’ on and off.
Well if not, I will have to get used to the silence. :)
Mani
On Nov 17, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Gene < gsasner@...> wrote:
NVDA doesn’t speak any command keys by default. You already know
what happens when you turn speak command keys on.
You may find that you quickly get used to not hearing enter. You
may expect it since you evidently have heard it in the past but giving not
hearing it a chance for perhaps a few days or a week may get you used to not
hearing it and it may not matter any longer.
I believe the option should be available. People should be able to
choose which command keys they hear, but since I know of no way they can, if
you get used to not hearing it quickly, the problem may not matter
shortly.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in
Wordpad
Good
to hear from you again after a long time. :) Thank you Sarah. But you have
no idea as to why NVDA does not speak the enter key on
Wordpad? Mani > On Nov 17, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Sarah k
Alawami < marrie12@...>
wrote: > > I recommend Jarte. It is no longer being made, but it
is one of my favorite programs to use for an RTF editor and a docx
viewer. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io < nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mani Iyer via groups.io> Sent:
Wednesday, November 17, 2021 7:56 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject:
[nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad > > Hello
all, > Having worked on the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a
newbie to Windows and NVDA which I am learning through the user guide and
enjoying it. > A RTF editor is a must for what I do and I chose Wordpad
(I will welcome ideas for any better NVDA-accessible and free editors).
I don’t know what setting would make NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move
to a new line. Setting the ‘Speak commands’ option on does speak it but speaks
all other commands I press in the process. > > Any help will be
appreciated. Thanks,. > > Warmly, > Mani > >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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I have no earthly idea. My enter key never speaks as I don't want it to. Is this what you want? If not ther is no way to turn on just the enter key to speak, I don't think.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 8:52 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad Good to hear from you again after a long time. :) Thank you Sarah. But you have no idea as to why NVDA does not speak the enter key on Wordpad? Mani On Nov 17, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
I recommend Jarte. It is no longer being made, but it is one of my favorite programs to use for an RTF editor and a docx viewer.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer
via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
Hello all,
Having worked on the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a newbie to Windows and NVDA which I am learning through the user guide and enjoying it.
A RTF editor is a must for what I do and I chose Wordpad (I will welcome ideas for any better NVDA-accessible and free editors). I don’t know what setting would make NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move to a new line. Setting the ‘Speak commands’ option on does speak it but speaks all other commands I press in the process.
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks,.
Warmly,
Mani
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Sarah k Alawami
You can create a profile just for wordpad. Give that a try. I use profiles for certain apps and they work well.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 9:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad Hello Gene, I wouldn’t mind having the “Speak commands’ turned on when in Wordpad but elsewhere it gets annoying! I wish there was a command to quickly turn ‘Speak commands’ on and off. Well if not, I will have to get used to the silence. :)
On Nov 17, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: NVDA doesn’t speak any command keys by default. You already know what happens when you turn speak command keys on. You may find that you quickly get used to not hearing enter. You may expect it since you evidently have heard it in the past but giving not hearing it a chance for perhaps a few days or a week may get you used to not hearing it and it may not matter any longer. I believe the option should be available. People should be able to choose which command keys they hear, but since I know of no way they can, if you get used to not hearing it quickly, the problem may not matter shortly. -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad Good to hear from you again after a long time. :)
Thank you Sarah. But you have no idea as to why NVDA does not speak the enter key on Wordpad?
Mani
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
>
> I recommend Jarte. It is no longer being made, but it is one of my favorite programs to use for an RTF editor and a docx viewer.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 7:56 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
>
> Hello all,
> Having worked on the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a newbie to Windows and NVDA which I am learning through the user guide and enjoying it.
> A RTF editor is a must for what I do and I chose Wordpad (I will welcome ideas for any better NVDA-accessible and free editors). I don’t know what setting would make NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move to a new line. Setting the ‘Speak commands’ option on does speak it but speaks all other commands I press in the process.
>
> Any help will be appreciated. Thanks,.
>
> Warmly,
> Mani
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Hi, Check out the NVDA global commands extension... it allows you to turn individual keys on and off. Thanks.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 19:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad Hello Gene, I wouldn’t mind having the “Speak commands’ turned on when in Wordpad but elsewhere it gets annoying! I wish there was a command to quickly turn ‘Speak commands’ on and off. Well if not, I will have to get used to the silence. :)
On Nov 17, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: NVDA doesn’t speak any command keys by default. You already know what happens when you turn speak command keys on. You may find that you quickly get used to not hearing enter. You may expect it since you evidently have heard it in the past but giving not hearing it a chance for perhaps a few days or a week may get you used to not hearing it and it may not matter any longer. I believe the option should be available. People should be able to choose which command keys they hear, but since I know of no way they can, if you get used to not hearing it quickly, the problem may not matter shortly. -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad Good to hear from you again after a long time. :)
Thank you Sarah. But you have no idea as to why NVDA does not speak the enter key on Wordpad?
Mani
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
>
> I recommend Jarte. It is no longer being made, but it is one of my favorite programs to use for an RTF editor and a docx viewer.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 7:56 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
>
> Hello all,
> Having worked on the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a newbie to Windows and NVDA which I am learning through the user guide and enjoying it.
> A RTF editor is a must for what I do and I chose Wordpad (I will welcome ideas for any better NVDA-accessible and free editors). I don’t know what setting would make NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move to a new line. Setting the ‘Speak commands’ option on does speak it but speaks all other commands I press in the process.
>
> Any help will be appreciated. Thanks,.
>
> Warmly,
> Mani
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Thank you Dina, Gene, and Brian for all your suggestions. I am curious at to what the technical barriers exist for NVDA being unable to simply say ‘New Line’ for the enter key. Is it because of the lookahead it has to perform for the ‘line feed’ character? If that is the case, I would still be happy if it said ‘carriage return’ like it does when I move up and down lines in my Wordpad file.
Warmly, Mani
Hi, Check out the NVDA global commands extension... it allows you to turn individual keys on and off. Thanks. Hello Gene, I wouldn’t mind having the “Speak commands’ turned on when in Wordpad but elsewhere it gets annoying! I wish there was a command to quickly turn ‘Speak commands’ on and off. Well if not, I will have to get used to the silence. :)
On Nov 17, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Gene < gsasner@...> wrote: NVDA doesn’t speak any command keys by default. You already know what happens when you turn speak command keys on. You may find that you quickly get used to not hearing enter. You may expect it since you evidently have heard it in the past but giving not hearing it a chance for perhaps a few days or a week may get you used to not hearing it and it may not matter any longer. I believe the option should be available. People should be able to choose which command keys they hear, but since I know of no way they can, if you get used to not hearing it quickly, the problem may not matter shortly. -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad Good to hear from you again after a long time. :)
Thank you Sarah. But you have no idea as to why NVDA does not speak the enter key on Wordpad?
Mani
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
>
> I recommend Jarte. It is no longer being made, but it is one of my favorite programs to use for an RTF editor and a docx viewer.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 7:56 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
>
> Hello all,
> Having worked on the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a newbie to Windows and NVDA which I am learning through the user guide and enjoying it.
> A RTF editor is a must for what I do and I chose Wordpad (I will welcome ideas for any better NVDA-accessible and free editors). I don’t know what setting would make NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move to a new line. Setting the ‘Speak commands’ option on does speak it but speaks all other commands I press in the process.
>
> Any help will be appreciated. Thanks,.
>
> Warmly,
> Mani
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I don’t know but enter is what screen-readers generally say if you have
them set to speak such keys.
Gene
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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in
Wordpad
Thank
you Dina, Gene, and Brian for all your suggestions. I am curious at to what the
technical barriers exist for NVDA being unable to simply say ‘New Line’
for the enter key. Is it because of the lookahead it has to perform for the
‘line feed’ character? If that is the case, I would still be happy if it said
‘carriage return’ like it does when I move up and down lines in my Wordpad file.
Warmly,
Mani
.
Hi,
Check
out the NVDA global commands extension... it allows you to turn individual
keys on and off.
Thanks.
Hello
Gene,
I
wouldn’t mind having the “Speak commands’ turned on when in Wordpad but
elsewhere it gets annoying! I wish there was a command to quickly turn ‘Speak
commands’ on and off.
Well if
not, I will have to get used to the silence. :)
On
Nov 17, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Gene < gsasner@...>
wrote:
NVDA doesn’t speak
any command keys by default. You already know what happens when you
turn speak command keys on.
You may find that
you quickly get used to not hearing enter. You may expect it since you
evidently have heard it in the past but giving not hearing it a chance for
perhaps a few days or a week may get you used to not hearing it and it may
not matter any longer.
I believe the option
should be available. People should be able to choose which command
keys they hear, but since I know of no way they can, if you get used to not
hearing it quickly, the problem may not matter
shortly.
-----Original
Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 10:52
AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the
enter key in Wordpad
Good to hear from you again
after a long time. :)
Thank you Sarah. But you have no idea as to why
NVDA does not speak the enter key on Wordpad?
Mani
> On
Nov 17, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...>
wrote:
>
> I
recommend Jarte. It is no longer being made, but it is one of my favorite
programs to use for an RTF editor and a docx viewer.
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mani Iyer via groups.io
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17,
2021 7:56 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject:
[nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
>
> Hello all,
> Having
worked on the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a newbie to Windows
and NVDA which I am learning through the user guide and enjoying it.
> A RTF editor is a must for
what I do and I chose Wordpad (I will welcome ideas for any better
NVDA-accessible and free editors). I don’t know what setting would
make NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move to a new line. Setting the
‘Speak commands’ option on does speak it but speaks all other commands I
press in the process.
>
> Any help will be
appreciated. Thanks,.
>
> Warmly,
>
Mani
>
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Sarah k Alawami
Can’t you customize that key, or am I confused with the punctuation dictionary. If so, then ignore me.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 12:48 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad Thank you Dina, Gene, and Brian for all your suggestions. I am curious at to what the technical barriers exist for NVDA being unable to simply say ‘New Line’ for the enter key. Is it because of the lookahead it has to perform for the ‘line feed’ character? If that is the case, I would still be happy if it said ‘carriage return’ like it does when I move up and down lines in my Wordpad file. .
Check out the NVDA global commands extension... it allows you to turn individual keys on and off. I wouldn’t mind having the “Speak commands’ turned on when in Wordpad but elsewhere it gets annoying! I wish there was a command to quickly turn ‘Speak commands’ on and off. Well if not, I will have to get used to the silence. :) On Nov 17, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: NVDA doesn’t speak any command keys by default. You already know what happens when you turn speak command keys on. You may find that you quickly get used to not hearing enter. You may expect it since you evidently have heard it in the past but giving not hearing it a chance for perhaps a few days or a week may get you used to not hearing it and it may not matter any longer. I believe the option should be available. People should be able to choose which command keys they hear, but since I know of no way they can, if you get used to not hearing it quickly, the problem may not matter shortly. -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad Good to hear from you again after a long time. :)
Thank you Sarah. But you have no idea as to why NVDA does not speak the enter key on Wordpad?
Mani
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
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> I recommend Jarte. It is no longer being made, but it is one of my favorite programs to use for an RTF editor and a docx viewer.
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> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 7:56 AM
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> Subject: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
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> Hello all,
> Having worked on the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a newbie to Windows and NVDA which I am learning through the user guide and enjoying it.
> A RTF editor is a must for what I do and I chose Wordpad (I will welcome ideas for any better NVDA-accessible and free editors). I don’t know what setting would make NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move to a new line. Setting the ‘Speak commands’ option on does speak it but speaks all other commands I press in the process.
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> Any help will be appreciated. Thanks,.
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> Warmly,
> Mani
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I think one of mine said “return” or “new line” or nothing at all. and now I can’t remember which one as that might have been in 1987 or so.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 1:21 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad I don’t know but enter is what screen-readers generally say if you have them set to speak such keys. -----Originall Message----- Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad Thank you Dina, Gene, and Brian for all your suggestions. I am curious at to what the technical barriers exist for NVDA being unable to simply say ‘New Line’ for the enter key. Is it because of the lookahead it has to perform for the ‘line feed’ character? If that is the case, I would still be happy if it said ‘carriage return’ like it does when I move up and down lines in my Wordpad file. .
Check out the NVDA global commands extension... it allows you to turn individual keys on and off. I wouldn’t mind having the “Speak commands’ turned on when in Wordpad but elsewhere it gets annoying! I wish there was a command to quickly turn ‘Speak commands’ on and off. Well if not, I will have to get used to the silence. :) On Nov 17, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: NVDA doesn’t speak any command keys by default. You already know what happens when you turn speak command keys on. You may find that you quickly get used to not hearing enter. You may expect it since you evidently have heard it in the past but giving not hearing it a chance for perhaps a few days or a week may get you used to not hearing it and it may not matter any longer. I believe the option should be available. People should be able to choose which command keys they hear, but since I know of no way they can, if you get used to not hearing it quickly, the problem may not matter shortly. -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad Good to hear from you again after a long time. :)
Thank you Sarah. But you have no idea as to why NVDA does not speak the enter key on Wordpad?
Mani
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
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> I recommend Jarte. It is no longer being made, but it is one of my favorite programs to use for an RTF editor and a docx viewer.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mani Iyer via groups.io
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 7:56 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] NVDA speechless on the enter key in Wordpad
>
> Hello all,
> Having worked on the Mac with Voiceover for many years, I am a newbie to Windows and NVDA which I am learning through the user guide and enjoying it.
> A RTF editor is a must for what I do and I chose Wordpad (I will welcome ideas for any better NVDA-accessible and free editors). I don’t know what setting would make NVDA speak the enter key whenever I move to a new line. Setting the ‘Speak commands’ option on does speak it but speaks all other commands I press in the process.
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> Any help will be appreciated. Thanks,.
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> Warmly,
> Mani
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