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Dear all, I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command (NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are below: * Wordpad: "No status line found" * Windows Explorer: "No status line found" * Stata: "j" * Microsoft Edge: "No status line found" * Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay * Wordweb: "wordweb.info" In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid 2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command? I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs. Best Regards, Bhavya Shah Stanford University | Class of 2024 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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Hi Bhavya,
Now that a couple of other issues which were blocking it have been resolved, it might be possible to resolve this, but I'm not sure where work on it is at.
Quentin.
Dear all,
I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my
knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were
incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of
programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command
(NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are
below:
* Wordpad: "No status line found"
* Windows Explorer: "No status line found"
* Stata: "j"
* Microsoft Edge: "No status line found"
* Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word
Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions
Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate
Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In
Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay
* Wordweb: "wordweb.info"
In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the
one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid
2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or
does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command?
I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs.
Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
-- Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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In some cases, Like File Explorer,
status lines are there, but NVDA just does not read them. Rui
Fontes developed an handy addon that reads most status lines, but
I believe this functionality should form part of the NVDA core. A
long time ago I wrote about this, but NVDA developers did not seem
particularly interested in this issue. One of them even wrote that
one could get at the information in the status line by pressing
the review cursor key to jump to the bottom line and then pressing
the key to read that line. Sure, that can be done, but it would
just be more convenient to have a key which is supposed to read
status lines to work correctly. Rui's addon shows that it is not a
major undertaking to achieve that.
Kind regards
Christo
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On 2021/11/22 12:42pm, Bhavya shah
wrote:
Dear all,
I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my
knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were
incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of
programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command
(NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are
below:
* Wordpad: "No status line found"
* Windows Explorer: "No status line found"
* Stata: "j"
* Microsoft Edge: "No status line found"
* Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word
Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions
Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate
Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In
Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay
* Wordweb: "wordweb.info"
In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the
one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid
2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or
does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command?
I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs.
Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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Hello Bhavya,
I am using win10 21h2 With n vda 2021.2 and office 2016 and current chrome.
I use nvda key+end to read status line.
In chrome I have no result.
In m s outlook, in the message list, I get total number of messages and number of unread messages.
In m s word I get page number, word count, etc..
In wordpad I get nothing.
Cheers,
Mont
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bhavya shah Sent: November 22, 2021 4:42 AM To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: [nvda] Status Bars and NVDA Dear all, I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command (NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are below: * Wordpad: "No status line found" * Windows Explorer: "No status line found" * Stata: "j" * Microsoft Edge: "No status line found" * Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay * Wordweb: "wordweb.info" In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid 2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command? I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs. Best Regards, Bhavya Shah Stanford University | Class of 2024 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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What's the download link for the Addon mentioned? I'd like to try it. I Hoping it'd work in filesilla, File Explorer, among others. Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
El 22 nov 2021, a la(s) 5:24 a.m., Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> escribió:
In some cases, Like File Explorer,
status lines are there, but NVDA just does not read them. Rui
Fontes developed an handy addon that reads most status lines, but
I believe this functionality should form part of the NVDA core. A
long time ago I wrote about this, but NVDA developers did not seem
particularly interested in this issue. One of them even wrote that
one could get at the information in the status line by pressing
the review cursor key to jump to the bottom line and then pressing
the key to read that line. Sure, that can be done, but it would
just be more convenient to have a key which is supposed to read
status lines to work correctly. Rui's addon shows that it is not a
major undertaking to achieve that.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2021/11/22 12:42pm, Bhavya shah
wrote:
Dear all,
I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my
knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were
incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of
programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command
(NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are
below:
* Wordpad: "No status line found"
* Windows Explorer: "No status line found"
* Stata: "j"
* Microsoft Edge: "No status line found"
* Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word
Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions
Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate
Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In
Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay
* Wordweb: "wordweb.info"
In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the
one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid
2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or
does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command?
I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs.
Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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Look for it on nvda-addons.org. It
works well in File Explorer, but I am not using FileZilla, so I
don't know if it works in that program.
Regards
Christo
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 2021/11/22 06:07pm, Gerardo Corripio
wrote:
What's the download link for the Addon mentioned? I'd like to try
it. I Hoping it'd work in filesilla, File Explorer, among others.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
In some cases, Like File
Explorer, status lines are there, but NVDA just does not
read them. Rui Fontes developed an handy addon that reads
most status lines, but I believe this functionality should
form part of the NVDA core. A long time ago I wrote about
this, but NVDA developers did not seem particularly
interested in this issue. One of them even wrote that one
could get at the information in the status line by pressing
the review cursor key to jump to the bottom line and then
pressing the key to read that line. Sure, that can be done,
but it would just be more convenient to have a key which is
supposed to read status lines to work correctly. Rui's addon
shows that it is not a major undertaking to achieve that.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2021/11/22 12:42pm, Bhavya
shah wrote:
Dear all,
I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my
knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were
incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of
programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command
(NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are
below:
* Wordpad: "No status line found"
* Windows Explorer: "No status line found"
* Stata: "j"
* Microsoft Edge: "No status line found"
* Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word
Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions
Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate
Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In
Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay
* Wordweb: "wordweb.info"
In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the
one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid
2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or
does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command?
I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs.
Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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Any tips, at least a name? I'm now within the addons page, within development addons, moving with headings, but I don't see nyding anything that says something about reading status bars. I got into the beforementioned page, from within the Addon Manager "Get addons". Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
El 22 nov 2021, a la(s) 10:33 a.m., Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> escribió:
Look for it on nvda-addons.org. It
works well in File Explorer, but I am not using FileZilla, so I
don't know if it works in that program.
Regards
Christo
On 2021/11/22 06:07pm, Gerardo Corripio
wrote:
What's the download link for the Addon mentioned? I'd like to try
it. I Hoping it'd work in filesilla, File Explorer, among others.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
In some cases, Like File
Explorer, status lines are there, but NVDA just does not
read them. Rui Fontes developed an handy addon that reads
most status lines, but I believe this functionality should
form part of the NVDA core. A long time ago I wrote about
this, but NVDA developers did not seem particularly
interested in this issue. One of them even wrote that one
could get at the information in the status line by pressing
the review cursor key to jump to the bottom line and then
pressing the key to read that line. Sure, that can be done,
but it would just be more convenient to have a key which is
supposed to read status lines to work correctly. Rui's addon
shows that it is not a major undertaking to achieve that.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2021/11/22 12:42pm, Bhavya
shah wrote:
Dear all,
I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my
knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were
incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of
programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command
(NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are
below:
* Wordpad: "No status line found"
* Windows Explorer: "No status line found"
* Stata: "j"
* Microsoft Edge: "No status line found"
* Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word
Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions
Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate
Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In
Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay
* Wordweb: "wordweb.info"
In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the
one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid
2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or
does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command?
I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs.
Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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Look for ZExplorer. Its description is
"Add status bar reading". If you don't find it there, write and
ask the author at:
Regards
Christo
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On 2021/11/22 06:54pm, Gerardo Corripio
wrote:
Any tips, at least a name? I'm now within the addons page, within
development addons, moving with headings, but I don't see nyding
anything that says something about reading status bars. I got into
the beforementioned page, from within the Addon Manager "Get
addons".
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
Look for it on nvda-addons.org.
It works well in File Explorer, but I am not using
FileZilla, so I don't know if it works in that program.
Regards
Christo
On 2021/11/22 06:07pm, Gerardo
Corripio wrote:
What's the download link for the Addon mentioned? I'd like
to try it. I Hoping it'd work in filesilla, File Explorer,
among others.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
In some cases, Like File
Explorer, status lines are there, but NVDA just does
not read them. Rui Fontes developed an handy addon
that reads most status lines, but I believe this
functionality should form part of the NVDA core. A
long time ago I wrote about this, but NVDA developers
did not seem particularly interested in this issue.
One of them even wrote that one could get at the
information in the status line by pressing the review
cursor key to jump to the bottom line and then
pressing the key to read that line. Sure, that can be
done, but it would just be more convenient to have a
key which is supposed to read status lines to work
correctly. Rui's addon shows that it is not a major
undertaking to achieve that.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2021/11/22 12:42pm,
Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my
knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were
incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of
programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command
(NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are
below:
* Wordpad: "No status line found"
* Windows Explorer: "No status line found"
* Stata: "j"
* Microsoft Edge: "No status line found"
* Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word
Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions
Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate
Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In
Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay
* Wordweb: "wordweb.info"
In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the
one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid
2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or
does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command?
I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs.
Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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What might I be missing? I can’t find it on the site. Might it be with a different name in Spanish? I’m writing the developper just in case it might not be there yet? Enviado desde Correo para Windows Look for ZExplorer. Its description is "Add status bar reading". If you don't find it there, write and ask the author at:
On 2021/11/22 06:54pm, Gerardo Corripio wrote: Any tips, at least a name? I'm now within the addons page, within development addons, moving with headings, but I don't see nyding anything that says something about reading status bars. I got into the beforementioned page, from within the Addon Manager "Get addons". Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel Look for it on nvda-addons.org. It works well in File Explorer, but I am not using FileZilla, so I don't know if it works in that program. On 2021/11/22 06:07pm, Gerardo Corripio wrote: What's the download link for the Addon mentioned? I'd like to try it. I Hoping it'd work in filesilla, File Explorer, among others. Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel In some cases, Like File Explorer, status lines are there, but NVDA just does not read them. Rui Fontes developed an handy addon that reads most status lines, but I believe this functionality should form part of the NVDA core. A long time ago I wrote about this, but NVDA developers did not seem particularly interested in this issue. One of them even wrote that one could get at the information in the status line by pressing the review cursor key to jump to the bottom line and then pressing the key to read that line. Sure, that can be done, but it would just be more convenient to have a key which is supposed to read status lines to work correctly. Rui's addon shows that it is not a major undertaking to achieve that. On 2021/11/22 12:42pm, Bhavya shah wrote: Dear all, I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command (NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are below: * Wordpad: "No status line found" * Windows Explorer: "No status line found" * Stata: "j" * Microsoft Edge: "No status line found" * Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay * Wordweb: "wordweb.info" In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid 2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command? I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs. Best Regards, Bhavya Shah Stanford University | Class of 2024 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 01:26 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
What might I be missing? I can’t find it on the site.
- Gera, Probably nothing, as I've also searched the proverbial nine ways to Sunday and come up with nothing at https://nvda-addons.org/. I've tried status, status bar, zexplorer, "rui fontes" and just rui and just fontes in the "Name or summary contains" search edit box. By the way, please don't split topics by changing the subject line when the reply is still about an ongoing subject. It makes the archive far messier. I've merged your "still can't find" message back in with the primary topic. --
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043
The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.
~ John F. Kennedy
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For many years, the trend has been to eliminate status
bars in more programs to leave more room for conten or for other functions in
the window.
I’m not saying that there are no programs with status bars
higher on the screen so NVDA isn’t aware of them but the trend you are talking
about means that fewer programs have status lines.
Gene
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-----Original Message-----
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 4:42 AM
Subject: [nvda] Status Bars and NVDA
Dear
all,
I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To
my
knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars
were
incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch
of
programs open and decided to issue the read status bar
command
(NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results
are
below:
* Wordpad: "No status line found"
* Windows Explorer: "No
status line found"
* Stata: "j"
* Microsoft Edge: "No status line
found"
* Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32
Word
Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text
Predictions
Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility:
Investigate
Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160
Zoom In
Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay
* Wordweb:
"wordweb.info"
In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable
information. In the
one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA
took a solid
2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete?
Or
does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command?
I
would appreciate any thoughts and inputs.
Best Regards,
Bhavya
Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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I use an older version of FileZilla and NVDA can see the status line but I
find the information of no value. I get information clearly and much more
concisely by actually reading the line that provides information such as the
time elapsed, remaining time, and the speed of the download.
Gene
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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Status Bars and NVDA
Look for it on nvda-addons.org. It works well in File
Explorer, but I am not using FileZilla, so I don't know if it works in that
program.
Regards
Christo
On 2021/11/22 06:07pm, Gerardo Corripio
wrote:
What's the download link for the Addon mentioned? I'd like to try
it. I Hoping it'd work in filesilla, File Explorer, among others.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
In some cases, Like File Explorer, status lines
are there, but NVDA just does not read them. Rui Fontes developed an handy
addon that reads most status lines, but I believe this functionality should
form part of the NVDA core. A long time ago I wrote about this, but NVDA
developers did not seem particularly interested in this issue. One of them
even wrote that one could get at the information in the status line by
pressing the review cursor key to jump to the bottom line and then pressing
the key to read that line. Sure, that can be done, but it would just be more
convenient to have a key which is supposed to read status lines to work
correctly. Rui's addon shows that it is not a major undertaking to achieve
that.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2021/11/22 12:42pm, Bhavya shah
wrote:
Dear all,
I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my
knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were
incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of
programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command
(NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are
below:
* Wordpad: "No status line found"
* Windows Explorer: "No status line found"
* Stata: "j"
* Microsoft Edge: "No status line found"
* Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word
Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions
Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate
Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In
Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay
* Wordweb: "wordweb.info"
In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the
one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid
2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or
does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command?
I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs.
Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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What might I be missing?
I can’t find it on the site. Might it be with a different
name in Spanish? I’m writing the developper just in case it
might not be there yet?
Enviado desde Correo para Windows
Look for ZExplorer. Its description is
"Add status bar reading". If you don't find it there, write
and ask the author at:
On 2021/11/22 06:54pm, Gerardo Corripio
wrote:
Any tips, at least a name? I'm now within
the addons page, within development addons, moving with
headings, but I don't see nyding anything that says
something about reading status bars. I got into the
beforementioned page, from within the Addon Manager "Get
addons".
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd
Generation) de Telcel
Look for it on nvda-addons.org. It
works well in File Explorer, but I am not using
FileZilla, so I don't know if it works in that
program.
On 2021/11/22 06:07pm, Gerardo
Corripio wrote:
What's the download link for the
Addon mentioned? I'd like to try it. I Hoping it'd
work in filesilla, File Explorer, among others.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd
Generation) de Telcel
In some cases, Like File
Explorer, status lines are there, but NVDA just
does not read them. Rui Fontes developed an
handy addon that reads most status lines, but I
believe this functionality should form part of
the NVDA core. A long time ago I wrote about
this, but NVDA developers did not seem
particularly interested in this issue. One of
them even wrote that one could get at the
information in the status line by pressing the
review cursor key to jump to the bottom line and
then pressing the key to read that line. Sure,
that can be done, but it would just be more
convenient to have a key which is supposed to
read status lines to work correctly. Rui's addon
shows that it is not a major undertaking to
achieve that.
On 2021/11/22 12:42pm, Bhavya
shah wrote:
Dear all,
I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my
knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were
incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of
programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command
(NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are
below:
* Wordpad: "No status line found"
* Windows Explorer: "No status line found"
* Stata: "j"
* Microsoft Edge: "No status line found"
* Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word
Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions
Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate
Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In
Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay
* Wordweb: "wordweb.info"
In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the
one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid
2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or
does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command?
I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs.
Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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I wonder what changed technically between Windows 7 and10. The status
bar is read in Windows 7. I hope the add-on is submitted for approval as
an official NVDA add-on.
There are times when it is important to see the status line in Windows
Explorer. When I select a number of files to copy to the clipboard for
copying, I read the status line before I copy them. It tells me the number
of selected items, which verifies that I have selected the number I
intended.
Gene
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Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Status Bars and NVDA
The error is not yours...
It is not in the oficial repository of add-ons...
You can get it from:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uqin9vni5bpwvpr/ZExplorer_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=0
It does not work in latest Alphas...and do not work in Windows 11...
Best regards,
Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team
Às 18:25 de 22/11/2021, Gerardo Corripio
escreveu:
What might I be missing? I can’t find it
on the site. Might it be with a different name in Spanish? I’m writing the
developper just in case it might not be there yet?
Enviado desde Correo para Windows
Look for ZExplorer. Its description is "Add status bar
reading". If you don't find it there, write and ask the author at:
On 2021/11/22 06:54pm, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Any tips, at least a name? I'm now within the addons
page, within development addons, moving with headings, but I don't see
nyding anything that says something about reading status bars. I got into
the beforementioned page, from within the Addon Manager "Get addons".
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de
Telcel
Look for it on nvda-addons.org. It works well in File
Explorer, but I am not using FileZilla, so I don't know if it works in
that program.
On 2021/11/22 06:07pm, Gerardo Corripio
wrote:
What's the download link for the Addon mentioned? I'd
like to try it. I Hoping it'd work in filesilla, File Explorer, among
others.
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de
Telcel
In some cases, Like File Explorer, status lines are
there, but NVDA just does not read them. Rui Fontes developed an handy
addon that reads most status lines, but I believe this functionality
should form part of the NVDA core. A long time ago I wrote about this,
but NVDA developers did not seem particularly interested in this
issue. One of them even wrote that one could get at the information in
the status line by pressing the review cursor key to jump to the
bottom line and then pressing the key to read that line. Sure, that
can be done, but it would just be more convenient to have a key which
is supposed to read status lines to work correctly. Rui's addon shows
that it is not a major undertaking to achieve that.
On 2021/11/22 12:42pm, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all, I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command (NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are below: * Wordpad: "No status line found" * Windows Explorer: "No status line found" * Stata: "j" * Microsoft Edge: "No status line found" * Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay * Wordweb: "wordweb.info" In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid 2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command? I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs. Best Regards, Bhavya Shah Stanford University | Class of 2024 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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Thanks for sharing! It’s installed, but I don’t see any keystroke to get it working. For instance I was in Windows Explorer, selected two files, pressed NVDA+Shift+End, but I didn’t see any difference. What should it read? Enviado desde Correo para Windows The error is not yours... It is not in the oficial repository of add-ons... You can get it from: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uqin9vni5bpwvpr/ZExplorer_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=0 It does not work in latest Alphas...and do not work in Windows 11... Best regards,
Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team
Às 18:25 de 22/11/2021, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:
What might I be missing? I can’t find it on the site. Might it be with a different name in Spanish? I’m writing the developper just in case it might not be there yet? Enviado desde Correo para Windows Look for ZExplorer. Its description is "Add status bar reading". If you don't find it there, write and ask the author at: On 2021/11/22 06:54pm, Gerardo Corripio wrote: Any tips, at least a name? I'm now within the addons page, within development addons, moving with headings, but I don't see nyding anything that says something about reading status bars. I got into the beforementioned page, from within the Addon Manager "Get addons". Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel Look for it on nvda-addons.org. It works well in File Explorer, but I am not using FileZilla, so I don't know if it works in that program. On 2021/11/22 06:07pm, Gerardo Corripio wrote: What's the download link for the Addon mentioned? I'd like to try it. I Hoping it'd work in filesilla, File Explorer, among others. Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel In some cases, Like File Explorer, status lines are there, but NVDA just does not read them. Rui Fontes developed an handy addon that reads most status lines, but I believe this functionality should form part of the NVDA core. A long time ago I wrote about this, but NVDA developers did not seem particularly interested in this issue. One of them even wrote that one could get at the information in the status line by pressing the review cursor key to jump to the bottom line and then pressing the key to read that line. Sure, that can be done, but it would just be more convenient to have a key which is supposed to read status lines to work correctly. Rui's addon shows that it is not a major undertaking to achieve that. On 2021/11/22 12:42pm, Bhavya shah wrote: Dear all, I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command (NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are below: * Wordpad: "No status line found" * Windows Explorer: "No status line found" * Stata: "j" * Microsoft Edge: "No status line found" * Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay * Wordweb: "wordweb.info" In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid 2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command? I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs. Best Regards, Bhavya Shah Stanford University | Class of 2024 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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Martin J. Dürst <duerst@...>
I agree with Gene. In addition to his points, status bars don't work well on mobile phones, and so applications available for both PC and mobile phones tend to not have status bars.
Regards, Martin.
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On 2021-11-23 04:10, Gene via groups.io wrote: For many years, the trend has been to eliminate status bars in more programs to leave more room for conten or for other functions in the window.
I’m not saying that there are no programs with status bars higher on the screen so NVDA isn’t aware of them but the trend you are talking about means that fewer programs have status lines.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
-----Original Message-----
From: Bhavya shah
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 4:42 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Status Bars and NVDA
Dear all,
I am using NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 on a Windows 10 machine. To my
knowledge, back in the day at least, I thought status bars were
incredibly common and present in most applications. I had a bunch of
programs open and decided to issue the read status bar command
(NVDA+Shift+End on a laptop) to see what happened. The results are
below:
* Wordpad: "No status line found"
* Windows Explorer: "No status line found"
* Stata: "j"
* Microsoft Edge: "No status line found"
* Word for Microsoft 365: "Status Bar Page Number Page 2 of 32 Word
Count 2728 words Spelling and Grammar Check Errors Text Predictions
Text Predictions: On Accessibility Checker Accessibility: Investigate
Focus Read Mode Print Layout Web Layout Zoom Out Zoom 160 Zoom In
Zoom 160%" after a 2.5 second delay
* Wordweb: "wordweb.info"
In this experiment, most programs gave no valuable information. In the
one program that did have a meaningful status bar, NVDA took a solid
2.5 seconds to read it. Are status bars truly becoming obsolete? Or
does this hint at an issue in NVDA's read status bar command?
I would appreciate any thoughts and inputs.
Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/
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Prof. Dr.sc. Martin J. Dürst
Department of Intelligent Information Technology
College of Science and Engineering
Aoyama Gakuin University
Fuchinobe 5-1-10, Chuo-ku, Sagamihara
252-5258 Japan
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