If anyone can point me to a webpage that can be generally accessed where
this technique is used, I might be able to figure out how to to it.

I understand exactly what it is you're asking, Luke, but this is an instance
where, at least for me, trial and error would be required to figure out the
actual solution if such can be found.  There's got to be something,
somewhere else, that does this.
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FYI, this question applies to a work related web app so I can’t provide a URL that anybody here would be able to access. I will try to describe this as best I can and hopefully help can still be provided.

Imagine you’ve got a table of different items and you want to delete one of them. The instructions for this particular page say to hover over the checkbox of that item which will reveal three dots. Clicking on these three dots will give you the option to remove the item. The checkbox itself is accessible, but how do I invoke a mouse hover and subsequently access the resulting drop-down menu using NVDA and the keyboard?

I have tried routing the mouse pointer to the checkbox but obviously invoking a click at this point just toggles the checkbox. I’ve also tried NVDA OCR but didn’t get anything other than the expected text of the checkbox itself.

Of course this is a terribly poor design from an accessibility standpoint but I’d like to see if there’s someway I can achieve this before I approach the developer. We all know it can be hard to get anyone’s attention, let alone actually get something like this resolved.

Thanks and let me know if I can add more details that would be helpful

Luke



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Luke Robinett wrote:

Imagine you’ve got a table of different items and you want to delete one of them. The instructions for this particular page say to hover over the checkbox of that item which will reveal three dots. Clicking on these three dots will give you the option to remove the item. The checkbox itself is accessible, but how do I invoke a mouse hover and subsequently access the resulting drop-down menu using NVDA and the keyboard?

I had something similar on GetResponse a few years ago.

I vaguely remember that I found some fiddly way to get there with object nav, but I don't think it was even half reliable.
The method I used most, and in truth this was one of the main reasons I gave up on GetResponse after a couple months, was this:

* Navigate to the invoking element (in your case a checkbox).
* Route the virtual mouse there.
* Use the actual mouse (a touchpad in my case), to very carefully move to the right, until some part of the button I wanted was spoken.
* Click with the actual mouse.

Things that are factors:
* Your mouse pointer speech granularity should probably be set to word.
* Your mouse sounds should be on, so that you can make sure audibly that you are maintaining a straight horizontal path.
* I forget whether I had to do this in focus mode, or if it worked in browse mode.

Alternative to the regular mouse, you might use Microsoft's Mouse Keys accessibility option. It's been a while since I did that though, so I forget how it interacts with NVDA.

Good luck!

Luke