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Hello,
1. Open any excel file
2. filled the worksheet with some data with the first row as the header
3. select all existing data by ctrl +a
4. go to data tab, press sort button
5. tab to any of the dropdown menu
6. press up or down arrow, everytime when I press up or down arrow, nvda will say list box list xxxx
7. after I have selected one of the item and press tab, nvda will repeat the name of the current worksheet and says excel unavailable, followed by the next item.
Would you please comment on whether this is a nvda or excel problem? Thanks.
William
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I can replicate the first part - although just to confirm, the data itself is still read, it's just that you get the extra unnecessary list box list item information as well, correct?
For the next part, step 7, I couldn't replicate that, but maybe I was doing it slightly differently.
Kind regards
Quentin.
Hello,
1. Open any excel file
2. filled the worksheet with some data with the first row as the header
3. select all existing data by ctrl +a
4. go to data tab, press sort button
5. tab to any of the dropdown menu
6. press up or down arrow, everytime when I press up or down arrow, nvda
will say list box list xxxx
7. after I have selected one of the item and press tab, nvda will repeat
the name of the current worksheet and says excel unavailable, followed
by the next item.
Would you please comment on whether this is a nvda or excel problem? Thanks.
William
-- Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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>I can replicate the first part - although just to confirm,
the data itself is still read, it's just that you get the extra
unnecessary list box list item information as well, correct?
Correct.
> For the next part, step 7, I couldn't replicate that, but
maybe I was doing it slightly differently.
Hmm, interesting.
Quentin Christensen 於 11/5/2022 06:21
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I can replicate the first part - although just to
confirm, the data itself is still read, it's just that you get
the extra unnecessary list box list item information as well,
correct?
For the next part, step 7, I couldn't replicate that, but
maybe I was doing it slightly differently.
Kind regards
Quentin.
Hello,
1. Open any excel file
2. filled the worksheet with some data with the first row as
the header
3. select all existing data by ctrl +a
4. go to data tab, press sort button
5. tab to any of the dropdown menu
6. press up or down arrow, everytime when I press up or down
arrow, nvda
will say list box list xxxx
7. after I have selected one of the item and press tab, nvda
will repeat
the name of the current worksheet and says excel unavailable,
followed
by the next item.
Would you please comment on whether this is a nvda or excel
problem? Thanks.
William
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
I can replicate the first part - although just to
confirm, the data itself is still read, it's just that you get
the extra unnecessary list box list item information as well,
correct?
For the next part, step 7, I couldn't replicate that, but
maybe I was doing it slightly differently.
Kind regards
Quentin.
Hello,
1. Open any excel file
2. filled the worksheet with some data with the first row as
the header
3. select all existing data by ctrl +a
4. go to data tab, press sort button
5. tab to any of the dropdown menu
6. press up or down arrow, everytime when I press up or down
arrow, nvda
will say list box list xxxx
7. after I have selected one of the item and press tab, nvda
will repeat
the name of the current worksheet and says excel unavailable,
followed
by the next item.
Would you please comment on whether this is a nvda or excel
problem? Thanks.
William
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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Thanks for that, the issue looks good.
Hi quentin,
I have created an issue,
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/13682
Quentin Christensen 於 11/5/2022 06:21
寫道:
I can replicate the first part - although just to
confirm, the data itself is still read, it's just that you get
the extra unnecessary list box list item information as well,
correct?
For the next part, step 7, I couldn't replicate that, but
maybe I was doing it slightly differently.
Kind regards
Quentin.
Hello,
1. Open any excel file
2. filled the worksheet with some data with the first row as
the header
3. select all existing data by ctrl +a
4. go to data tab, press sort button
5. tab to any of the dropdown menu
6. press up or down arrow, everytime when I press up or down
arrow, nvda
will say list box list xxxx
7. after I have selected one of the item and press tab, nvda
will repeat
the name of the current worksheet and says excel unavailable,
followed
by the next item.
Would you please comment on whether this is a nvda or excel
problem? Thanks.
William
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
-- Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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Quentin and William, Step 7 describes what I experience every time when sorting a document in excel. I am using Office 2016 in Windows 10 and latest NVDA – all latest versions. This is a noisy and unnecessary babble of information. I always press the left alt key to silence it so that I can actually hear the options in the next drop down box. I can also replicate this when I move away from the spreadsheet to another application and swing back again with alt+tab. This generates the full text that William describes. The elements I hear are: 1.The Sheet title followed by the addition of "dash Excel" 2. Then "unavailable" 3.Then "Sort dialog, Sort widnow" 4. Then "Data Grid" 5. Then "Sort data Item 1 of 1" 6. Then "Order combo box, smallest to largest collapsed" If I do not change the three boxes, "order by" "sort on" or "order", I do not get this echo as I tab from combo box to combo box. However, as soon as I activate any one of these combo boxes, I get the full whack of all six elements described above when I tab away from the combo box. If I keep the alt key pressed when I press alt +tab to return to the Excel window from another application window, I hear the sheet title plus "dash Excel" but no mention of "Unavailable". However, when I let go the alt key, I then get the repetition of the Title and all six parts of the announcement. This is an awful lot of verbiage and it has no value to me as a user. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 11:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel and sort data I can replicate the first part - although just to confirm, the data itself is still read, it's just that you get the extra unnecessary list box list item information as well, correct? For the next part, step 7, I couldn't replicate that, but maybe I was doing it slightly differently. Hello,
1. Open any excel file
2. filled the worksheet with some data with the first row as the header
3. select all existing data by ctrl +a
4. go to data tab, press sort button
5. tab to any of the dropdown menu
6. press up or down arrow, every time when I press up or down arrow, nvda
will say list box list xxxx
7. after I have selected one of the item and press tab, nvda will repeat
the name of the current worksheet and says excel unavailable, followed
by the next item.
Would you please comment on whether this is a nvda or excel problem? Thanks.
William
-- Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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Cearbhall, I think you can also add your comment to the github
discussion which I have posted earlier.
Cearbhall O'Meadhra 於 11/5/2022 17:44
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Quentin and William,
Step 7 describes what I experience
every time when sorting a document in excel.
I am using Office 2016 in Windows 10
and latest NVDA – all latest versions.
This is a noisy and unnecessary
babble of information. I always press the left alt key to
silence it so that I can actually hear the options in the
next drop down box.
I can also replicate this when I move away
from the spreadsheet to another application and swing back
again with alt+tab. This generates the full text that William
describes.
The elements I hear are:
1.The Sheet title followed by the addition
of "dash Excel"
2. Then "unavailable"
3.Then "Sort dialog, Sort widnow"
4. Then "Data Grid"
5. Then "Sort data Item 1 of 1"
6. Then "Order combo box, smallest to
largest collapsed"
If I do not change the three boxes, "order
by" "sort on" or "order", I do not get this echo as I tab from
combo box to combo box.
However, as soon as I activate any one of
these combo boxes, I get the full whack of all six elements
described above when I tab away from the combo box.
If I keep the alt key pressed when I press
alt +tab to return to the Excel window from another
application window, I hear the sheet title plus "dash Excel"
but no mention of "Unavailable". However, when I let go the
alt key, I then get the repetition of the Title and all six
parts of the announcement.
This is an awful lot of verbiage and it has
no value to me as a user.
All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623
e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
I can replicate the first part - although
just to confirm, the data itself is still read, it's just
that you get the extra unnecessary list box list item
information as well, correct?
For the next part, step 7, I couldn't
replicate that, but maybe I was doing it slightly
differently.
Hello,
1. Open any excel file
2. filled the worksheet with some data with the first row
as the header
3. select all existing data by ctrl +a
4. go to data tab, press sort button
5. tab to any of the dropdown menu
6. press up or down arrow, every time when I press up or
down arrow, nvda
will say list box list xxxx
7. after I have selected one of the item and press tab,
nvda will repeat
the name of the current worksheet and says excel
unavailable, followed
by the next item.
Would you please comment on whether this is a nvda or
excel problem? Thanks.
William
--
Quentin
Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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William I would be happy to add my experience to your submission. What is the GitHub code for your entry? All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of William
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 11:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel and sort data Cearbhall, I think you can also add your comment to the github discussion which I have posted earlier. Cearbhall O'Meadhra 於 11/5/2022 17:44 寫道: Quentin and William, Step 7 describes what I experience every time when sorting a document in excel. I am using Office 2016 in Windows 10 and latest NVDA – all latest versions. This is a noisy and unnecessary babble of information. I always press the left alt key to silence it so that I can actually hear the options in the next drop down box. I can also replicate this when I move away from the spreadsheet to another application and swing back again with alt+tab. This generates the full text that William describes. The elements I hear are: 1.The Sheet title followed by the addition of "dash Excel" 2. Then "unavailable" 3.Then "Sort dialog, Sort widnow" 4. Then "Data Grid" 5. Then "Sort data Item 1 of 1" 6. Then "Order combo box, smallest to largest collapsed" If I do not change the three boxes, "order by" "sort on" or "order", I do not get this echo as I tab from combo box to combo box. However, as soon as I activate any one of these combo boxes, I get the full whack of all six elements described above when I tab away from the combo box. If I keep the alt key pressed when I press alt +tab to return to the Excel window from another application window, I hear the sheet title plus "dash Excel" but no mention of "Unavailable". However, when I let go the alt key, I then get the repetition of the Title and all six parts of the announcement. This is an awful lot of verbiage and it has no value to me as a user. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I can replicate the first part - although just to confirm, the data itself is still read, it's just that you get the extra unnecessary list box list item information as well, correct? For the next part, step 7, I couldn't replicate that, but maybe I was doing it slightly differently. Hello,
1. Open any excel file
2. filled the worksheet with some data with the first row as the header
3. select all existing data by ctrl +a
4. go to data tab, press sort button
5. tab to any of the dropdown menu
6. press up or down arrow, every time when I press up or down arrow, nvda
will say list box list xxxx
7. after I have selected one of the item and press tab, nvda will repeat
the name of the current worksheet and says excel unavailable, followed
by the next item.
Would you please comment on whether this is a nvda or excel problem? Thanks.
William
-- Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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William
I would be happy to add my experience
to your submission. What is the GitHub code for your entry?
Cearbhall, I think you can also add your comment to the
github discussion which I have posted earlier.
Cearbhall O'Meadhra 於
11/5/2022 17:44 寫道:
Quentin and William,
Step 7 describes what I experience
every time when sorting a document in excel.
I am using Office 2016 in Windows 10
and latest NVDA – all latest versions.
This is a noisy and unnecessary babble
of information. I always press the left alt key to silence
it so that I can actually hear the options in the next
drop down box.
I can also replicate this when I move
away from the spreadsheet to another application and swing
back again with alt+tab. This generates the full text that
William describes.
The elements I hear are:
1.The Sheet title followed by the
addition of "dash Excel"
2. Then "unavailable"
3.Then "Sort dialog, Sort widnow"
4. Then "Data Grid"
5. Then "Sort data Item 1 of 1"
6. Then "Order combo box, smallest to
largest collapsed"
If I do not change the three boxes,
"order by" "sort on" or "order", I do not get this echo as
I tab from combo box to combo box.
However, as soon as I activate any one
of these combo boxes, I get the full whack of all six
elements described above when I tab away from the combo
box.
If I keep the alt key pressed when I
press alt +tab to return to the Excel window from another
application window, I hear the sheet title plus "dash
Excel" but no mention of "Unavailable". However, when I
let go the alt key, I then get the repetition of the Title
and all six parts of the announcement.
This is an awful lot of verbiage and it
has no value to me as a user.
All the best,
Cearbhall
m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353
(0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
I can replicate the first part -
although just to confirm, the data itself is still read,
it's just that you get the extra unnecessary list box
list item information as well, correct?
For the next part, step 7, I
couldn't replicate that, but maybe I was doing it
slightly differently.
Hello,
1. Open any excel file
2. filled the worksheet with some data with the first
row as the header
3. select all existing data by ctrl +a
4. go to data tab, press sort button
5. tab to any of the dropdown menu
6. press up or down arrow, every time when I press up
or down arrow, nvda
will say list box list xxxx
7. after I have selected one of the item and press
tab, nvda will repeat
the name of the current worksheet and says excel
unavailable, followed
by the next item.
Would you please comment on whether this is a nvda or
excel problem? Thanks.
William
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Quentin
Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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