Double Entry Bookkeeping/professional accounting software


Luke Davis
 

Hello

I am looking for some NVDA accessible double entry bookkeeping software. In other words, a business accounting package.

I currently use Zero, which is a web based accounting service, but its interface is clunky, and not always as accessible as it could or should be. I want very much to get away from it.

Fifteen or so years ago I used SQL-Ledger for a while, but it had security and other issues (it was also web based, but you had to install and administer it on your own server). I switched briefly to LedgerSMB which was created as a replacement and to solve the problems of SQL-Ledger, but now seems defunct.

I think I would prefer something standalone, although if there is a really good web based system I haven't tried that has a high degree of NVDA compatibility, I'd be open to it.

Any pointers gratefully received.

Luke


Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Have you considered Quick Books?

On Jun 8, 2022, at 8:51 PM, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

Hello

I am looking for some NVDA accessible double entry bookkeeping software. In other words, a business accounting package.

I currently use Zero, which is a web based accounting service, but its interface is clunky, and not always as accessible as it could or should be. I want very much to get away from it.

Fifteen or so years ago I used SQL-Ledger for a while, but it had security and other issues (it was also web based, but you had to install and administer it on your own server). I switched briefly to LedgerSMB which was created as a replacement and to solve the problems of SQL-Ledger, but now seems defunct.

I think I would prefer something standalone, although if there is a really good web based system I haven't tried that has a high degree of NVDA compatibility, I'd be open to it.

Any pointers gratefully received.

Luke






Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Luke!

See the link below to "Wave Apps." It is reputed to be accessible. I have
no personal experience with it, but *a lot* of accounting experience.

https://www.waveapps.com/accounting

Best,
Richard

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Subject: [nvda] Double Entry Bookkeeping/professional accounting software

Hello

I am looking for some NVDA accessible double entry bookkeeping software. In
other words, a business accounting package.

I currently use Zero, which is a web based accounting service, but its
interface is clunky, and not always as accessible as it could or should be.
I want very much to get away from it.

Fifteen or so years ago I used SQL-Ledger for a while, but it had security
and other issues (it was also web based, but you had to install and
administer it on your own server). I switched briefly to LedgerSMB which was
created as a replacement and to solve the problems of SQL-Ledger, but now
seems defunct.

I think I would prefer something standalone, although if there is a really
good web based system I haven't tried that has a high degree of NVDA
compatibility, I'd be open to it.

Any pointers gratefully received.

Luke


Luke Davis
 

On Jun 14, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

See the link below to "Wave Apps." It is reputed to be accessible. I have
no personal experience with it, but *a lot* of accounting experience.
Thanks Richard. I have actually tried that one, although not in the last year or so. They do seem pretty accessible, although I remember running into several very awkward UI choices that made them somewhat less than smooth, though over all usable.

They are probably where I'll end up if I can't find anything preferable.

What other software have you had experience with?

Someone mentioned Quickbooks. With Intuit's crummy accessibility record, I hadn't really considered them to be viable, although I admit never having bought a copy to test accessibility.

Luke


Mo Khan
 

hi there, I would also suggest quick books. not sure where you are based? but know  an organisation here in the uk who have been working with them on accessibility and now recommend them to blind business owners. good luck and if it would help can put you in touch with the organisation recommending them in uk. thank you. Mo.


On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 10:01 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
On Jun 14, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

> See the link below to "Wave Apps."  It is reputed to be accessible.  I have
> no personal experience with it, but *a lot* of accounting experience.

Thanks Richard. I have actually tried that one, although not in the last year or
so. They do seem pretty accessible, although I remember running into several
very awkward UI choices that made them somewhat less than smooth, though over
all usable.

They are probably where I'll end up if I can't find anything preferable.

What other software have you had experience with?

Someone mentioned Quickbooks. With Intuit's crummy accessibility record, I
hadn't really considered them to be viable, although I admit never having bought
a copy to test accessibility.

Luke







Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Luke,

The choices are *very* limited. I have heard that the online version of
QuickBooks is somewhat accessible, though I dislike the fees involved. Its
desktop version is woefully inaccessible. As far as professional
double-entry bookkeeping applications go, I think this is pretty much it.


HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 2:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Double Entry Bookkeeping/professional accounting
software

On Jun 14, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

See the link below to "Wave Apps." It is reputed to be accessible. I
have no personal experience with it, but *a lot* of accounting experience.
Thanks Richard. I have actually tried that one, although not in the last
year or so. They do seem pretty accessible, although I remember running into
several very awkward UI choices that made them somewhat less than smooth,
though over all usable.

They are probably where I'll end up if I can't find anything preferable.

What other software have you had experience with?

Someone mentioned Quickbooks. With Intuit's crummy accessibility record, I
hadn't really considered them to be viable, although I admit never having
bought a copy to test accessibility.

Luke


Nolan Darilek
 

When I last used it a couple years back, QBO was inaccessible to the point where I felt my stress levels rise every time I had to use it. As in, they slapped the wrong ARIA attributes on things like tables and royally screwed things up. I basically hired an accountant to swoop in and clean things up regularly. And I write web apps as part of my livelihood, so it isn't a case of me needing more training or whatnot.

If things have changed then good I suppose, but as far as I'm concerned they've got dominant market share and abuse it. The accountants I reached out to only worked with QBO, and while I don't object to paying for software, feeling coerced into working with an industry standard, by yet another company that introduces more barriers to blind entrepreneurship, left a sour taste in my mouth.

Good luck. I think in the future I'll just use command line stuff, and find an accountant who gets it. Bookkeeping is too integral that I can't afford for it to not be accessible to me.

On 6/22/2022 8:15 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
Hi Luke,

The choices are *very* limited. I have heard that the online version of
QuickBooks is somewhat accessible, though I dislike the fees involved. Its
desktop version is woefully inaccessible. As far as professional
double-entry bookkeeping applications go, I think this is pretty much it.


HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 2:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Double Entry Bookkeeping/professional accounting
software

On Jun 14, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

See the link below to "Wave Apps." It is reputed to be accessible. I
have no personal experience with it, but *a lot* of accounting experience.
Thanks Richard. I have actually tried that one, although not in the last
year or so. They do seem pretty accessible, although I remember running into
several very awkward UI choices that made them somewhat less than smooth,
though over all usable.

They are probably where I'll end up if I can't find anything preferable.

What other software have you had experience with?

Someone mentioned Quickbooks. With Intuit's crummy accessibility record, I
hadn't really considered them to be viable, although I admit never having
bought a copy to test accessibility.

Luke










Luke Davis
 

Nolan Darilek wrote:

Good luck. I think in the future I'll just use command line stuff, and find an accountant who gets it.
I was tempted to find one of the online accounting platforms with an API (Wave has one, I think), and write either a commandline or Python full screen interface for it.

It just takes a lot of time

Luke


Luke Davis
 

Mo Khan wrote:

hi there, I would also suggest quick books. not sure where you are based? but know  an organisation here in the uk who have been working with them on
accessibility and now recommend them to blind business owners. good luck and if it would help can put you in touch with the organisation recommending them
I would be interested in that. I'm in the U.S., but I'd probably prefer QB desktop if it's accessible somehow. Although, as Richard B. McDonald said, I too heard that it was not very accessible at all, so not sure what that organization might have done.

Luke


Abhishek Raut
 

hi Luke
If you want professional software, you can go with tally ERP9
Lot's of business owners use this software in india.
Check there website, if its available for your country then you can use this in your country.
note: this is completely in accessible with NVDA.
To use it you have to use jaws.
I am working on such software in python.
If you are interested in this, fill free to share your ideas with me
Thank you

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 8:21 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Hello

I am looking for some NVDA accessible double entry bookkeeping software. In
other words, a business accounting package.

I currently use Zero, which is a web based accounting service, but its interface
is clunky, and not always as accessible as it could or should be. I want very
much to get away from it.

Fifteen or so years ago I used SQL-Ledger for a while, but it had security and
other issues (it was also web based, but you had to install and administer it on
your own server). I switched briefly to LedgerSMB which was created as a
replacement and to solve the problems of SQL-Ledger, but now seems defunct.

I think I would prefer something standalone, although if there is a really good
web based system I haven't tried that has a high degree of NVDA compatibility,
I'd be open to it.

Any pointers gratefully received.

Luke








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Regards, Abhishek Raut