Getting to the bottom of a form. was Re: [nvda] Skipping the advertisements in web brouzers.


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My problem these days is that many forms only have one question per page and will not let you hit next till you have filled in the required replies.
I guess you could to the bottom of the page and then do a shift f and see what the last field on it is.
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I'm not aware of a reliable method to move to the end of a form on a Web page. The Window-Eyes screen reader had this capability and I can see why it would be useful but I don't believe there's a way to do it with NVDA. If the capability exists in a third party addon I'm not aware of it but I certainly haven't looked through all features in all existing addons..


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ravindran V.S.
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 3:37 AM
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Thank you David.
Let me try your suggestion.
Thank you very much for your help.
Ravi.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
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Ravi,
Regarding ads you can do more than skip them. Why not block them with an ad blocker such as
UBlock Origin.<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fublockorigin.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C34c0706649e847ae6fe408da5746b956%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637918258522617479%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=GPB073IeKkGc%2BsMDowFIwic%2BUDg6gsXnNcn3sjLZvcM%3D&reserved=0>
Because ad blockers are not relevant to NVDA itself it would be better to talk about this type of software on the chat subgroup.


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Ravindran V.S.
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Subject: [nvda] Skipping the advertisements in web brouzers.

Hi,
Is there a simple way to skip the advertisements in a webpage?
Instead of pressing the down arrow key several times till the end of the advertisement, any simple way to reach the next required text or data?
Also, a same way to skip the form fields in a page?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Ravi.


Gene
 

That is true of some forms but a lot of sites have forms like a log in form.  My question is why forms are being asked about.  I seldom stop at such forms because ways of moving such as move by heading from the top of a page to the beginning of an article, using the letter h, or skipping blocks of links, using the letter n, moves me beyond such forms on web pages.  So how are you V.S. moving to get from the tops of pages to where you want to be?

Gene

On 6/26/2022 4:26 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:

My  problem these days is that many forms only have one question per page and will not let  you hit next till you have filled in the required replies.
I guess you could to the bottom of the page and then do a shift f and see what the last field on it is.
Brian



 

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 05:26 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
My problem these days is that many forms only have one question per page and will not let you hit next till you have filled in the required replies.
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That's not a form, plain and simple.

The "single question per page" questionnaire format has been with us for decades, but it's not a form in any meaningful sense of the term.
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The problem is that a lot of places use this format for things like creating an account, to me this ought to be done on one page, since it makes it easier to spot any cock ups.
At other times creating an account just appears to be a big questionnaire, ie they gather as much info about you and your opinions as you are willing to give during the creation process , so the description often is blurred, and these sort of creation pages mean you have no idea what you will be asked or if you will fail at the final visual capchar option at the end as you cannot see it first.
Sorry, but that is one of my trigger points grin.
Brian

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On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 05:26 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


My problem these days is that many forms only have one question per page
and will not let you hit next till you have filled in the required
replies.
-
That's not a form, plain and simple.

The "single question per page" questionnaire format has been with us for decades, but it's not a form in any meaningful sense of the term.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

~ Dorothy Nevill