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Quentin Christensen
Hi everyone, Thanks for raising this and the interesting conversation around it. Firstly, I would like to echo Joseph's point and share that we do definitely value each and every contributor, no matter what form that contribution may take: Code contributions, donations, reporting or investigating issues, telling others about NVDA, teaching others to use NVDA, liking or sharing our tweets and facebook posts etc etc. When that contributors list was originally setup (it is available via the help menu in NVDA for anyone not sure where it is) - the intention was similar to the trend in other open source projects at the time - to thank those who helped the project, primarily through code contributions. We have recently offered the opportunity for acknowledgement of donations via the various tiers in our GitHub Sponsorship. While we hadn't anticipated people looking for donors in the contributors list, I can absolutely see where people could think of that. This has also provoked discussion among the NV Access team around how to acknowledge contributors of all types, and how we might update the format or content of that document in future. There will be various considerations in this, including the amount of work keeping it up to date, as well as ensuring that we don't publicly name people who wish to remain private, So, no timeline for this, but watch this space. Do please feel free to reply or let us know if you have ideas around how you'd like to see this proceed. In the meantime, if anyone donates and would like some recognition, do let me know! Kind regards Quentin. On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 1:27 AM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
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Hi, Given that more and more folks outside of NV Access are contributing code (and localization data) to NVDA, I can see the need to update contributors list. It runs into a maintenance problem for source code maintainers: locating authorship information for files and packages, made more complicated as some files in the NVDA source code repository have no copyright header whatsoever. At least we have sponsors list on GitHub so NV Access can acknowledge them. Money is not the only way to help NV Access and NVDA. Simply promoting NVDA and the principles of this movement (equal access to technology) is valuable too. And those who do just that are far more numerous to list. What's more, the fact that folks are using NVDA in unexpected places, coupled with its reputation as trying to follow accessibility standards contributes significantly to the promotion, reputation, and growth of NVDA and the movement it represents. Let me repeat what I declared in 2016 as part of NVDACon then: NVDA is more than a screen reader - it is a movement. Money can surely help, and it is okay to tell folks publicly about it. But the "real stars" of this movement, people who sustains the movement toward equal access to technology, are those who open up opportunities for those who could not (surprisingly, it includes all users), and it will take far more than the length of the contributors document to list and some may wish to remain anonymous (willingly or due to circumstances beyond our control). Cheers, Joseph |
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When I sent NV Access some money, once to buy their training materials, and another time because I simply wanted to help, I was neither expecting nor caring if my name appeared anywhere for other people to see.
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On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 10:39 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Yah, but some people think it is also to include the people making donations...- As did I, up until this post made it crystal clear what that file is. A name change to CodeContributors.txt might be in order if it is to be maintained. Those 4 additional characters would make a world of difference. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard |
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Rui Fontes
Yah, but some people think it is also to include the people making donations...
Rui Fontes
Às 15:20 de 08/08/2022, Cyrille via
groups.io escreveu:
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On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 06:33 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Do you know a document named contributors.txt included in NVDA? 🤣- Nope. And given what's been mentioned here, neither does/do whoever was once the maintainer(s). If you were to be trying to keep that up to date and comprehensive, it is certain to become unmanageable over time for a software package like NVDA. Myself, I'd ditch it. And that's not because donations are not appreciated, either. But the majority of donations I've made during my life had no formal acknowledgement. For myself, I'd rather every penny be directed toward its intended purpose. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard |
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Cyrille
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Contributors.txt lists the persons who have contributed to NVDA by submitting code or translations. It may not be completely up-to-date. If a name is missing, it would be good to know. But this document does not list the donators. Cheers, Cyrille |
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Rui Fontes
Do you know a document named contributors.txt included in NVDA? 🤣
Rui Fontes
Às 05:52 de 08/08/2022, Quentin
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Quentin Christensen
Hi Curtis, I might be about to embarrass myself here, but .... We publish a list of donors? I'm not aware of one. Having said that, we definitely do appreciate your contribution! And I'm quite happy to give you a shout out on Twitter and Facebook - in fact, I've just done it :) Thanks Curtis - and thanks to all our Marvellous Monthly Donors! Kind regards Quentin. On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 6:53 AM Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:
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Quentin Christensen
Thank you David, I'm glad you got it working, and we do very much appreciate your donation! Kind regards Quentin. On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 6:07 AM David Galantin <david.galantin@...> wrote:
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Brian's Mail list account
I've never seen one on there, at least not one that needs vision or audio, most seem to be words that are only obvious answers if you are a human.
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From: "David Galantin" <david.galantin@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2022 9:07 PM Subject: RE : [nvda] make a donation Ok, i’m sorry, the problem is with Paypal. |
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Curtis Delzer
speaking of donations, I've been doing it for quite some time, at $10 per month, .and wondered why I've not seen my name in the donations' list. I'm Curtis Delzer. Curiosity causes me to ask. On 8/3/2022 4:35 PM, Quentin
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David Galantin
Ok, i’m sorry, the problem is with Paypal. There is a capchat just before the payment verification. It doesn’t work every time. Right now, I suceed to make a donation✌
David
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De : Brian Vogel
Envoyé le :vendredi 5 août 2022 21:46 À : nvda@nvda.groups.io Objet :Re: [nvda] make a donation
On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 03:33 PM, David Galantin wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard
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On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 03:33 PM, David Galantin wrote:
I have no paypal count. So, I use my credit card.- Then I have no idea from where or how you're trying to do this. The only two options on the NVAccess Support Us Page are PayPal or direct EFT bank transfer. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard |
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Kim Vaughn
The message read funny for me.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2022 2:33 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] make a donation
That error message sure has some errors of its own…
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Galantin
Hello,
The error message is : An error is came. The donation didn’t suceed. Try agaqin.
I pay by credit card.
David
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De : Sarah k Alawami
What error are you getting? You neglected to paste it in the body of this message.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@...> On Behalf Of David Galantin
Hello,
I try to make a donation to NVACCESS since Monday. But there is an error just before the success confirmation of the payment.
Is it the same thing for you ?
Thanks,
David
Envoyé à partir de Courrier pour Windows
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David Galantin
Hello,
I have no paypal count. So, I use my credit card.
David
Envoyé à partir de Courrier pour Windows
De : Brian Vogel
Envoyé le :mercredi 3 août 2022 23:32 À : nvda@nvda.groups.io Objet :Re: [nvda] make a donation
Not to mention that the method of donation is not mentioned. On the NVAccess Support Us page that would be either PayPal or bank transfer. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard
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That error message sure has some errors of its own…
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Galantin
Sent: August 5, 2022 3:32 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: RE : [nvda] make a donation
Hello,
The error message is : An error is came. The donation didn’t suceed. Try agaqin.
I pay by credit card.
David
Envoyé à partir de Courrier pour Windows
De : Sarah k Alawami
What error are you getting? You neglected to paste it in the body of this message.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Galantin
Hello,
I try to make a donation to NVACCESS since Monday. But there is an error just before the success confirmation of the payment.
Is it the same thing for you ?
Thanks,
David
Envoyé à partir de Courrier pour Windows
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David Galantin
Hello,
The error message is : An error is came. The donation didn’t suceed. Try agaqin.
I pay by credit card.
David
Envoyé à partir de Courrier pour Windows
De : Sarah k Alawami
Envoyé le :mercredi 3 août 2022 22:48 À : nvda@nvda.groups.io Objet :Re: [nvda] make a donation
What error are you getting? You neglected to paste it in the body of this message.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of David Galantin
Hello,
I try to make a donation to NVACCESS since Monday. But there is an error just before the success confirmation of the payment.
Is it the same thing for you ?
Thanks,
David
Envoyé à partir de Courrier pour Windows
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Quentin Christensen
If you use the donation options on our donation page - https://www.nvaccess.org/support-us/#donation-support - (as in, NOT the bank details), then as soon as you select any of those options, it takes you to PayPal. Any errors from that point onward are likely with PayPal. As others have said, if you can give more information about the exact error, we can still try to help troubleshoot with you. Kind regards Quentin. On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 7:32 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote: Not to mention that the method of donation is not mentioned. On the NVAccess Support Us page that would be either PayPal or bank transfer. --
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess |
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Not to mention that the method of donation is not mentioned. On the NVAccess Support Us page that would be either PayPal or bank transfer.
Others recently asked about using the PayPal app from their phones, and you absolutely can donate that way, too. The PayPal address for NVAccess/NVDA is admin@... if donating via the PayPal app from a smartphone. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard |
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