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Howard Traxler
On many websites, on lots of lines NVDA says
inserted advertising inserted inserted This information doesn't seem to be on screen so it's probably a function of NVDA. I'm sure it's something I can turn off if I knew how or where. Can someone give me a hand with this one? Thank you Howard or <HT> |
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Janet Brandly
I run into this a lot too and would appreciate any ideas about how to bypass it.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler Sent: August 7, 2022 8:46 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] inserted advertising On many websites, on lots of lines NVDA says inserted advertising inserted inserted This information doesn't seem to be on screen so it's probably a function of NVDA. I'm sure it's something I can turn off if I knew how or where. Can someone give me a hand with this one? Thank you Howard or <HT> |
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Mary Otten
Use reader mode in your browser if available. Gets rid of all the crap.
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Mary On 8/7/2022 8:01 AM, Janet Brandly wrote:
I run into this a lot too and would appreciate any ideas about how to bypass it. |
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Mary's suggestion about using a reader mode, when available, is an excellent one.
Another thing is using something like uBlock Origin (my favorite, and way more than just an ad-blocker) in your browser of choice if said browser isn't something like Brave or Vivaldi where those same functions are largely built-in on security and privacy-focused browsers. I haven't surfed the web in literally decades without an ad-blocker of some sort active, so I see very little of this material. If it drives me insane for "visual clutter" distractions I can only imagine what it does as far as needlessly making accessibility to "real content" way more tedious. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly. ~ Vance Packard |
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Tyler Spivey
If you want to remove the word inserted, uncheck Editor revisions in NVDA's Document Formatting settings.
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But if that still isn't enough for you and you want to remove the advertisements altogether, look into an adblocker. I've found uBlock Origin works well enough with NVDA. You'll sometimes need to deactivate it on certain sites, but if you're browsing in Chrome, F6 will get you to the address bar, then tab will get you to the set of buttons. After that, you can right arrow to uBlock Origin and activate it with space. On 8/7/2022 7:46 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:
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mike mcglashon
What is Reader mode?
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Is it the same as immersive reader? I seem to believe that if I use immersive reader it just continuously reads the whole webpage with no control to read line by line word by word, paragraph, etc. On Aug 7, 2022, at 10:06 AM, Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote: |
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Ann Byrne <annakb@...>
I believe "inline frames" in the JAWS settings is supposed to let you skip the advertising stuff.
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At 11:59 AM 8/7/2022, you wrote:
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Mary Otten
I don't know about imersive reader. Reader mode strips out all the social media links e.g. "share on facebook" etc, as well as all the annoying ads that are sprinkled through many pages, letting you,k for example, see the ingredients and instructions for a recipe without the intervening disruptive ads. Or you can read an entire article without all those interruptions. In firefox, which is the easiest to use, in my view, you just hit f9 to invoke reader mode. That's all there is to it. When you move to another site, its turned off, so must be turned on each time you want to use it. You can also tottle it off if you're on a site where it didn't work well for some reason, just by hitting f9 again.
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Mary On 8/7/2022 9:59 AM, mike mcglashon wrote:
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Ann Byrne <annakb@...>
Sorry about that. I'm on the wrong screen reader.
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At 12:50 PM 8/7/2022, you wrote:
I believe "inline frames" in the JAWS settings is supposed to let you skip the advertising stuff. |
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Gene
Immersive reader is another name for reader mode. It won't take
away control from your screen-reader. It may have a read aloud
button where reading is not done by the screen-reader but you have
to manually start that option.
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Gene On 8/7/2022 12:53 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I don't know about imersive reader. Reader mode strips out all the social media links e.g. "share on facebook" etc, as well as all the annoying ads that are sprinkled through many pages, letting you,k for example, see the ingredients and instructions for a recipe without the intervening disruptive ads. Or you can read an entire article without all those interruptions. In firefox, which is the easiest to use, in my view, you just hit f9 to invoke reader mode. That's all there is to it. When you move to another site, its turned off, so must be turned on each time you want to use it. You can also tottle it off if you're on a site where it didn't work well for some reason, just by hitting f9 again. |
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mike mcglashon
OK, so if I’m using chrome or edge, Do I hit F9 to turn on reader mode/immersive reader? I ask because sometimes it comes up on some websites and other times it doesn’t. I hear jaws or Nbba or somebody like that say immersive reader sometimes but not all the time. On Aug 7, 2022, at 1:36 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
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JM Casey
In Firefox or Edge, yes. Chrome is a little different. It has a Reader Mode too, but it’s not enabled by default (unless this changed in very recent versions, but I don’t think so). You’ll need to type chrome://flags into the address bar. This will open a page of “deep settings” that control various browser functions. Look for “enable reader mode” (you can use the search box to do this, therea re a *lot* of flags in there) and activate it. Now, you’ll be able to enter reader mode on certain webpages. F9 won’t do it…I think the keystroke is ctrl-shift-r, and you’ll also see a button for it located in the address bar area if it’s available.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: August 7, 2022 02:57 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] inserted advertising
OK, so if I’m using chrome or edge, Do I hit F9 to turn on reader mode/immersive reader? I ask because sometimes it comes up on some websites and other times it doesn’t. I hear jaws or Nbba or somebody like that say immersive reader sometimes but not all the time.
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Gene
As I recall, in Chrome, this feature is hidden and must be turned on
in the experimental settings category of settings. this category of
settings is not available in the ususal settings interface. I'd
have to look information about it again, but it is not intended that
the general user know about the feature nor how to get to it.
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Edge makes the feature available and provides a short cut command to toggle it on and off, f9. It comes up on some web sites and not on others because the browser itself determines when it is appropriate to offer it. There are pages without articles where it should not be offered. If you are on a shopping site or the home page of a newspaper, it shouldn't be available. One of its purposes is to remove extraneous material from articles. Web pages without articles would be rendered useless if the same kind of material were removed. As you will see from this interesting page, Immersive reader wasn't developed as a blindness accessibility tool, at least in the case of Edge. Blind people may benefit from it but look at all the features offered, most of them visual. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/use-immersive-reader-in-microsoft-edge-78a7a17d-52e1-47ee-b0ac-eff8539015e1 Gene On 8/7/2022 1:56 PM, mike mcglashon
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Howard Traxler
When I hear this message, it's not always an ad; somehow NVDA just thinks it is. I thought there would be something in NVDA to turn off? One of the first responses did mention a switch in one of those NVDA menus; but I don't remember. I'll have to go back in my mail and find it again.
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<HT> On 8/7/2022 1:56 PM, mike mcglashon wrote:
OK, so if I’m using chrome or edge, --
It's so convenient when you folks sign your messages with your name (or even an alias). Then I don't have to close the message and look through the headings to find the originator. |
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Howard Traxler
Thank you Tyler, It looks like your first suggestion did the job.
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<HT> On 8/7/2022 10:21 AM, Tyler Spivey via groups.io wrote:
If you want to remove the word inserted, uncheck Editor revisions in NVDA's Document Formatting settings. --
It's so convenient when you folks sign your messages with your name (or even an alias). Then I don't have to close the message and look through the headings to find the originator. |
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Brian's Mail list account
Indeed, but increasingly I am finding sites that say something like, you are using an advertisement blocker. You will only be able to access the site if you remove or turn it off, then a link to how to do this in the popular browsers.
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The problem is, that I have little issue with adverts, if they are built with access in mind. Its no good having an accessible site, then allowing any tom dick or Harry to put inline advertising in that breaks the site for access. Maybe those writing advertising content need to get educated as well as web designers. Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2022 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] inserted advertising Mary's suggestion about using a reader mode, when available, is an excellent one. Another thing is using something like uBlock Origin (my favorite, and way more than just an ad-blocker) in your browser of choice if said browser isn't something like Brave or Vivaldi where those same functions are largely built-in on security and privacy-focused browsers. I haven't surfed the web in literally decades without an ad-blocker of some sort active, so I see very little of this material. If it drives me insane for "visual clutter" distractions I can only imagine what it does as far as needlessly making accessibility to "real content" way more tedious. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 *The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.* ~ Vance Packard |
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Brian's Mail list account
Can one still cut and paste the text? It is sometimes handy to be able to have plain text in a file rather than having to revisit a page only to find the content has moved or been taken down.
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Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Otten" <maryotten@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2022 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] inserted advertising I don't know about imersive reader. Reader mode strips out all the social media links e.g. "share on facebook" etc, as well as all the annoying ads that are sprinkled through many pages, letting you,k for example, see the ingredients and instructions for a recipe without the intervening disruptive ads. Or you can read an entire article without all those interruptions. In firefox, which is the easiest to use, in my view, you just hit f9 to invoke reader mode. That's all there is to it. When you move to another site, its turned off, so must be turned on each time you want to use it. You can also tottle it off if you're on a site where it didn't work well for some reason, just by hitting f9 again. |
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Nimer Jaber
Along with the already provided suggestion, I’ll say that many times, the escape container command, comma, will get me out of the frames. Thanks. On Sun, Aug 7, 2022, 07:46 Howard Traxler <htraxler7@...> wrote: On many websites, on lots of lines NVDA says |
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Gene
Immersive reader has nothing to do with using browse mode. It is a
way in which the browser presents the text, removing extraneous
material. All browse commands and browser commands work, including
copy and paste.
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Gene On 8/8/2022 2:00 AM, Brian's Mail list
account via groups.io wrote:
Can one still cut and paste the text? It is sometimes handy to be able to have plain text in a file rather than having to revisit a page only to find the content has moved or been taken down. |
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mike mcglashon
What is the escape container command? I’ve never heard of that one. On Aug 8, 2022, at 2:09 AM, Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...> wrote:
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