On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 04:34 AM, zhu bonie wrote:

What does GUI mean?

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Graphical User Interface (GUI).  Windows is a GUI and all Windows-based programs that aren't Command Prompt or PowerShell use GUIs.

How to use SPSS or NVIVO, other than how either might be set up to be the most compatible with NVDA, is not germane to this group.  Learning how to use either one of these pieces of software should occur elsewhere.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

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I would appreciate it very much if you could share with me the way to set up SPSS to better work with JAWS. Thanks a ton for your help!

Hi! Thanks for your kind sharing! What does GUI mean?

Hi! Thanks for your kind sharing! But what does GUI mean? Additionally, I don't know how to code in SPSS.

Hi! Thanks for your kind advice and wishes!

As far as SPSS in command-line mode, see:  SPSS: Working with Command Syntax

For the full "flotilla" of SPSS documentation (the Manuals section is likely to be very handy): IBM SPSS Statistics 28.0.1 Documentation

There are documents on that page entitled Accessibility.pdf for various OSes and languages.  JAWS is explicitly mentioned in the English Accessibility.PDF and there is a JAWS dictionary file they propose you add to your collection.

But, in the end, I suspect that blind users will be far better off using the now-ancient but still supported command line syntax.  Particularly if you're working with pre-existing data sets.  I think my time with SPSS occurred after I was done with the punch-card phase of a computer science program but it was still command line setting things up in files on a monochrome monitor or tractor-feed paper equivalent, with keyboard.  Ah, the days when 300 BAUD was considered insanely fast.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

Oh the author had also mentioned about NVIVO?

I would say NVIVO is a software totally inaccessable with screen reader.

When NVIVO was still in version 9 or 10 I have contacted their support services reporting to them the accessible issue, and their staff told me that I could use the accessibility features build in to windows to access their software, and what they meant were NVIVO support windows magnifier, lol.

Later in 2021 or 2020, they have explicitly mentioned in their blog or something saying that NVIVO is accessable using narrator on win and voiceover on mac.

I have tried installing the trial version on both windows and mac and turn out it is completely inaccessable, I could not imagine how they could make the claim that it is accessible.

The way that I was successfully using NVIVO was only NVIVO 8, with a old version of NVDA, but still you have to spend a lot of effort to work around some of the issues.

Hi,

When I used SPSS I found the experience both with Jaws and NVDA to be horrible. I was able to perform the basic important tasks such as reading the p values for whatever test you had to run such as Z test, but I had to get sighted assistance to simply get Jaws to read the two views after some work that the assistive technology instructor at my university did on their end. I will see if I can find the instructions on how to set up SPSS to work with Jaws because that is the only program that worked with SPSS. In closing my advice would be to work with your professor and explain that this software is nearly inaccessible with my screen reader. I wish you the best.

Hi.  I couldn't use SPSS nearly twenty years ago with JAWS for a university statistics course, and I wasn't an NVDA user at the time.  I recall a discussion on this list about this, but I don't believe the alternative to the GUI was mentioned.  I wish I'd known about it.  I never used NVIVO.

Louise

I know nothing about NVIVO, but way back when I did use SPSS, and pre-GUI.  The command line interface did still exist when last I checked, and it's worth looking into as it can and does do everything the GUI can, just differently.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

Hello,

I would say it is not completely accessible but at least usable.

Especially if you can spend some time to explore the part that is controling the SPSS using some sort of code then you can skip lots of interactions with the GUI.

Hi, I'm a student majoring in social work. I need to learn SPSS and NVIVO. Does anyone know if these two software could be used with NVDA? If not, does anyone have any experience in using other Statistics Software and qualitative research software? Could you give me some suggestions? Thanks!