NVDA is not reading/working in tables in MS word properly
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mr Krit Kumar kedia
Hello all, warm greetings from my side. a few days back, I updated NVDA and as far as I know I updated it again just 2 days back. In MS word 2021, when I am navigating a table of two rows and two columns it is saying, "table with two rows and two columns". whether I press tab, down, up, alt control with arrow keys anything my focus always lands on the first column of the second row. I am not able to go on the first row in any condition. Thus, I am not able to complete my school related work which requires me to use tables in any manner! I would be more than happy if I get a solution to this problem. Best regards, Krit Kedia class: 8 India: +91 |
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Is this a new behavior?
If so, had you previously been using the Easy Table Navigator add-on? It appears that the version on the Community Add-Ons site is not as recent as the one in the Spanish NVDA Add-On Catalog, so it's the latter I've given the link to. This add-on makes working with tables in MS-Word and in webpages much easier. Also, have you tried The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues? -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection. ~ Irving Babbitt |
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Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Hi Krit,
I wonder if your table has defined the first row as the heading row? This may be set in the definition of the table. Even though the row is intended to contain data as you say, the definition of the table might not be set correctly.
All the best,
Cearbhall
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mr Krit Kumar kedia
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 7:20 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA is not reading/working in tables in MS word properly
Hello all, warm greetings from my side. a few days back, I updated NVDA and as far as I know I updated it again just 2 days back. In MS word 2021, when I am navigating a table of two rows and two columns it is saying, "table with two rows and two columns". whether I press tab, down, up, alt control with arrow keys anything my focus always lands on the first column of the second row. I am not able to go on the first row in any condition. Thus, I am not able to complete my school related work which requires me to use tables in any manner! I would be more than happy if I get a solution to this problem.
Best regards, Krit Kedia class: 8 India: +91
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mr Krit Kumar kedia
hi, previously, I have never used the easy table navigator addon because I have been facing this problem from just some past days. I was never required to use any addon or external help to read tables. I dont know, why is it causing problems on my end? Can my problem be resolved with the help of an easy table navigator addon? looking forward to your solution in this regard. Krit Kedia On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 6:49 PM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:
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On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 12:39 PM, mr Krit Kumar kedia wrote:
Can my problem be resolved with the help of an easy table navigator addon?- Perhaps, but have you followed the previously offered, The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues?? The only way to figure out what might be wrong is by systematic diagnostic steps to eliminate possibilities, and the ones in that message are the first things to try in order to try to rule in or rule out certain things. And if you have Fast Startup enabled on your computer then do a Windows Restart from the power menu, not a shutdown. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection. ~ Irving Babbitt |
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Brian's Mail list account
Are you saying that if you have fast start set up, then its meagrely a bit like a sleep mode where all the running information is on the drive and used next boot up?
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One might have thought that Windows should call it something else then, since its not obvious to a lot of I know that shut down and restart is not a complete system reboot. Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2022 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA is not reading/working in tables in MS word properly On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 12:39 PM, mr Krit Kumar kedia wrote: - Perhaps, but have you followed the previously offered, The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues? ( https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/81494 ) ? The only way to figure out what might be wrong is by systematic diagnostic steps to eliminate possibilities, and the ones in that message are the first things to try in order to try to rule in or rule out certain things. And if you have Fast Startup enabled on your computer then do a Windows Restart from the power menu, not a shutdown. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection. ~ Irving Babbitt |
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mr Krit Kumar kedia
Hello Brian sir, Regards,As told by you, and given by you the link of issues I tried that a couple of minutes ago. actually, the first solution in that page (to restart your computer) I already tried that en number of times. The other two options also, I tried them but they didn't have any effect on my problem with NVDA. but, I have something to tell you here! After failing in all the methods to repair the issue, I was working on my new word document and there, I was required to make table. again. and there, when I used tables, it was working first class! It was not having any problems as told by me earlier. so, I shifted all my data to a new word document from the document which was having problems. and it had no problem at any cost! so, any of the members please tell me how this is possible in context of my above text. On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 1:10 PM Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote: Are you saying that if you have fast start set up, then its meagrely a bit |
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On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 03:40 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Are you saying that if you have fast start set up, then its merely a bit like a sleep mode where all the running information is on the drive and used next boot up?- Brian, Where in heaven's name have you been?!! The discussions of Fast Startup being a version of hibernation where only the Windows system state is saved to disk, but not the user(s) state(s), have occurred time and time again. And in the age of SSDs, the decrease in boot time using Fast Startup is virtually non-existent. But if Fast Startup is turned on a shutdown followed by a power up is a hibernation sequence for Windows, not a fresh load of the OS from disk. You get back whatever the system state was when you shutdown (and, possibly, any corruption that may have occurred over time in the hibernation file - which is another reason I avoid Fast Startup like the plague). -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection. ~ Irving Babbitt |
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On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 06:01 AM, mr Krit Kumar kedia wrote:
please tell me how this is possible in context of my above text.- User error, plain and simple. And the number of possible things you could have unwittingly done to the first that you didn't do when creating the second are myriad. That is by far and away the most likely explanation. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection. ~ Irving Babbitt |
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