Does anyone know if nvda has a function like the convenient ocr option in jaws where you can right click – do the applications key on a pdf and arrow down to convenient ocr with jaws and press enter and jaws will try and ocr the file and pull the text out of it?

Thanks,

Rich

Does anyone know if nvda has a function like the convenient ocr option in jaws where you can right click – do the applications key on a pdf and arrow down to convenient ocr with jaws and press enter and jaws will try and ocr the file and pull the text out of it?

Thanks,

Rich

Topic retitled for clarity and archival purposes.

But I also have a question:  Do any of the "internal" OCR options result in the file being OCRed having those changes kept permanently?  I can't imagine that the single page "quick and dirty" OCR would do this as it would make no sense to even try because many documents are more than one page, and a partially OCRed file is as bad as one that still needs to be processed.  But I don't know much about the NVDA Advanced OCR (NAO) Add-On other than that it exists and what its primary purpose is.

If the file is to be used over and over and over again, and neither adds a text layer that sticks with the file, there are other options that do just that.  But they're not done by NVDA itself or an add-on.
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Wondering about these OCR options:  Do all the offerred programs use the same OCR engine with just a little diferene in the interface?  Can't imagine that everyone wants to invent his own version of the wheel, as they say.

Howard

On 9/8/2022 10:33 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Topic retitled for clarity and archival purposes.

But I also have a question:  Do any of the "internal" OCR options result in the file being OCRed having those changes kept permanently?  I can't imagine that the single page "quick and dirty" OCR would do this as it would make no sense to even try because many documents are more than one page, and a partially OCRed file is as bad as one that still needs to be processed.  But I don't know much about the NVDA Advanced OCR (NAO) Add-On other than that it exists and what its primary purpose is.

If the file is to be used over and over and over again, and neither adds a text layer that sticks with the file, there are other options that do just that.  But they're not done by NVDA itself or an add-on.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection.

       ~ Irving Babbitt

Hello!


NVDA's OCR and NAO both use Windows OCR.

TesseractOCR and NAPS2TesseractOCR, as name says, both use Tesseract OCR.


NVDA's OCR only performs OCR to the screen image.

NAO does that and also can OCR a image file, like PDF, JPG and so on.

NAPS and Tesseract OCR do not make OCR to the screen image, but they can use a scanner to digitalize a paper document...


Rui Fontes



Às 21:06 de 08/09/2022, Howard Traxler escreveu:

Wondering about these OCR options:  Do all the offerred programs use the same OCR engine with just a little diferene in the interface?  Can't imagine that everyone wants to invent his own version of the wheel, as they say.


Howard

On 9/8/2022 10:33 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Topic retitled for clarity and archival purposes.

But I also have a question:  Do any of the "internal" OCR options result in the file being OCRed having those changes kept permanently?  I can't imagine that the single page "quick and dirty" OCR would do this as it would make no sense to even try because many documents are more than one page, and a partially OCRed file is as bad as one that still needs to be processed.  But I don't know much about the NVDA Advanced OCR (NAO) Add-On other than that it exists and what its primary purpose is.

If the file is to be used over and over and over again, and neither adds a text layer that sticks with the file, there are other options that do just that.  But they're not done by NVDA itself or an add-on.
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Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection.

~ Irving Babbitt

Does anyone know if nvda has a function like the convenient ocr option in jaws where you can right click – do the applications key on a pdf and arrow down to convenient ocr with jaws and press enter and jaws will try and ocr the file and pull the text out of it?

Thanks,

Rich

 

Wondering about these OCR options: Do all the offerred programs use the
same OCR engine with just a little diferene in the interface? Can't
imagine that everyone wants to invent his own version of the wheel, as
they say.


Howard

On 9/8/2022 10:33 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Topic retitled for clarity and archival purposes.

But I also have a question: Do any of the "internal" OCR options
result in the file being OCRed having those changes kept permanently?
I can't imagine that the single page "quick and dirty" OCR would do
this as it would make no sense to even try because many documents are
more than one page, and a partially OCRed file is as bad as one that
still needs to be processed. But I don't know much about the NVDA
Advanced OCR (NAO) Add-On other than that it exists and what its
primary purpose is.

If the file is to be used over and over and over again, and neither
adds a text layer that sticks with the file, there are other options
that do just that. But they're not done by NVDA itself or an add-on.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it
. . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection.

~ Irving Babbitt

Topic retitled for clarity and archival purposes.

But I also have a question:  Do any of the "internal" OCR options result in the file being OCRed having those changes kept permanently?  I can't imagine that the single page "quick and dirty" OCR would do this as it would make no sense to even try because many documents are more than one page, and a partially OCRed file is as bad as one that still needs to be processed.  But I don't know much about the NVDA Advanced OCR (NAO) Add-On other than that it exists and what its primary purpose is.

If the file is to be used over and over and over again, and neither adds a text layer that sticks with the file, there are other options that do just that.  But they're not done by NVDA itself or an add-on.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection.

       ~ Irving Babbitt

Thanks.

Then for those who are dealing with documents, whether short or long (I've done documents in the hundreds of pages), that they know they'll be referring to again and again or want to share with others, I offer the following:  Using Tracker Software’s PDF-Xchange Viewer to OCR Process Image Scanned PDFs

It's not particularly labor intensive when you know that you need to reference a given PDF over and over again and only want to have to do OCR processing once.  Tracker also supplies multiple language packs beyond the "core four" at no charge.  I had a client once who was using PDF-Xchange Viewer to OCR process scanned PDFs in Swedish.

I've also encouraged my clients who were grad students, who kept being given image scanned PDFs created years ago, to OCR process them this way then give the resulting file back to their professor, asking them to replace the one they've been using that has no text layer, so future blind students don't have to do this at all.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection.

       ~ Irving Babbitt

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 10:34 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

Not as far as I know with NVDA,

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Thanks.

Then for those who are dealing with documents, whether short or long (I've done documents in the hundreds of pages), that they know they'll be referring to again and again or want to share with others, I offer the following:  Using Tracker Software’s PDF-Xchange Viewer to OCR Process Image Scanned PDFs

It's not particularly labor intensive when you know that you need to reference a given PDF over and over again and only want to have to do OCR processing once.  Tracker also supplies multiple language packs beyond the "core four" at no charge.  I had a client once who was using PDF-Xchange Viewer to OCR process scanned PDFs in Swedish.

I've also encouraged my clients who were grad students, who kept being given image scanned PDFs created years ago, to OCR process them this way then give the resulting file back to their professor, asking them to replace the one they've been using that has no text layer, so future blind students don't have to do this at all.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

It is well to open one's mind but only as a preliminary to closing it . . . for the supreme act of judgment and selection.

       ~ Irving Babbitt