NVDA not speaking after Win 11 upgrade to 22H2


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I think from what he said the default synth will be one of the Microsoft voices, and part of the reason for trying narrator is to see whether the system can use the voices. If it cannot then the problem has to be elsewhere. I suspect he may not be hearing even the rising tones, at least that was what I inferred from what was said.
do other systems sounds work or is the driver just not loaded.Perhaps the computer is what we used to call safe mode?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "hurrikennyandopo ..." <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not speaking after Win 11 upgrade to 22H2


Hi Gregory


So you are saying there is no log on screen so it goes straight into
windows? Then you hear the sound of nvda starting then nothing after
that. NVDA ends up on the task bar and may or may not be heard. If that
is the case use the Windows key + letter D to put it on the desktop.


If nvda is loading but not speaking it might of some how gone to no speech.


Use the ctrl key + nvda key + the letter S it should then tell you if it
is set to no speech if it is find a synth package I know E speak is
default and see if speech comes back.


Try also the nvda key + letter S to toogle it to speech just in case it
was accidentally turned off.


Try also looking under the volume controls to see if nvdas is set to
zero. Press the windows key and in the search box type sndvol then press
the enter key.



You will need to look for the volume control for nvda and turn it up..


Only last week I just upgraded 3 machines to windows 11 but had no sound
problems when nvda was installed..

If they press the windows key does nvda speak? or even on the desk top?


I am thinking also get them to see what sound card is assigned under the
synth settings.


Gene nz

ng


On 30/09/2022 6:47 am, Gregory J. Rosmaita wrote:
Hello. Reporting for a friend who may or may not be able to directly
participate in this thread.

PROBLEM: NVDA stops working as expected as soon as it loads,
preventing the user from being able to use it to interact with his
computer. NVDA will open & start. The setting menus' buttons are now
reset & no longer work to what normal NVDA defaults are/should be.

NVDA version:
* NVDA 2022.2.3

PC INFO
* Windows Home 11 22H2 (9/20/22) 64-bit
* OS Build: 22621.521

SYSINFO
* RAM: 16GB
* Intel 2.60 GHz i7-9570h CPU





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He could turn on narrator as sometimes this indicates that nvda is working just not speaking.
I sometimes get NVDA not speaking due to the order in which it loads in a given system at which point it selects no speech since the device driver for sound did not load first. this then gets hard coded into the nvda.ini file and you are basically stuffed unless you can use another screenreader to diagnose this from the log. I'm not saying it is the case here, but windows updates do have a tendency toward this sort of thing, where sound only appears after the computer has loaded all its start up bits.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <gregory.rosmaita@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not speaking after Win 11 upgrade to 22H2


Thank you for the reply & suggestions. Relaying them now, but user
might need to wait to reply because no signted assistance available
right now.

On 9/29/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
What steps have you and he taken to troubleshoot? Have you tried running the
com reg tool, scanning windows for errors? Restarting the system?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gregory J.
Rosmaita
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:47 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not speaking after Win 11 upgrade to 22H2

Hello. Reporting for a friend who may or may not be able to directly
participate in this thread.

PROBLEM: NVDA stops working as expected as soon as it loads, preventing the
user from being able to use it to interact with his computer. NVDA will open
& start. The setting menus' buttons are now reset & no longer work to what
normal NVDA defaults are/should be.

NVDA version:
* NVDA 2022.2.3

PC INFO
* Windows Home 11 22H2 (9/20/22) 64-bit
* OS Build: 22621.521

SYSINFO
* RAM: 16GB
* Intel 2.60 GHz i7-9570h CPU














Gene
 

E-speak is not the default in Windows10 and higher.  Microsoft One Core voices are the default. 

Running Narrator, then checking which synthesizer is being used, with Narrator speaking what is found is one way to find out which one is being used.

When Narrator is running, first issue the command insert, either insert 3 on the main keyuboard.  That is, hold insert and press 3.  This is the Narrator pass through command.
Then issue the command insert, either insert, control s.  That is, hold insert, and while doing so press control and s.

The select synthesizer dialog will open.  You are on the synthesizer being used in the combo box when the dialog opens. 
You can try using other synthesizers in the list. 

Gene
On 9/29/2022 2:07 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi Gregory


So you are saying there is no log on screen so it goes straight into windows? Then you hear the sound of nvda starting then nothing after that. NVDA ends up on the task bar and may or may not be heard. If that is the case use the Windows key + letter D to put it on the desktop.


If nvda is loading but not speaking  it might of some how gone to no speech.


Use the ctrl key + nvda key + the letter S it should then tell you if it is set to no speech if it is find a synth package I know E speak is default and see if speech comes back.


Try also the nvda key + letter S to toogle it to speech  just in case it was accidentally turned off.


Try also looking under the volume controls to see if nvdas is set to zero. Press the windows key and in the search box type sndvol then press the enter key.



You will need to look for the volume control for nvda and turn it up..


Only last week I just upgraded 3 machines to windows 11 but had no sound problems when nvda was installed..

If they press the windows key does nvda speak? or even on the desk top?


I am thinking also get them to see what sound card is assigned under the synth settings.


Gene nz

 ng


On 30/09/2022 6:47 am, Gregory J. Rosmaita wrote:
Hello. Reporting for a friend who may or may not be able to directly
participate in this thread.

PROBLEM: NVDA stops working as expected as soon as it loads,
preventing the user from being able to use it to interact with his
computer. NVDA will open & start. The setting menus' buttons are now
reset & no longer work to what normal NVDA defaults are/should be.

NVDA version:
* NVDA 2022.2.3

PC INFO
* Windows Home 11 22H2 (9/20/22) 64-bit
* OS Build: 22621.521

SYSINFO
* RAM: 16GB
* Intel 2.60 GHz i7-9570h CPU












Jacob Kruger
 

At times, if NVDA goes silent, for whatever reason, I activate windows narrator with ctrl+windows+enter, to then try trouble-shoot issues?

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
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On 29 September 2022 20:05:45 "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <gregory.rosmaita@...> wrote:

Thank you for the reply & suggestions. Relaying them now, but user
might need to wait to reply because no signted assistance available
right now.

On 9/29/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

What steps have you and he taken to troubleshoot? Have you tried running the
com reg tool, scanning windows for errors? Restarting the system?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gregory J.
Rosmaita
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:47 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not speaking after Win 11 upgrade to 22H2

Hello. Reporting for a friend who may or may not be able to directly
participate in this thread.

PROBLEM: NVDA stops working as expected as soon as it loads, preventing the
user from being able to use it to interact with his computer. NVDA will open
& start. The setting menus' buttons are now reset & no longer work to what
normal NVDA defaults are/should be.

NVDA version:
* NVDA 2022.2.3

PC INFO
* Windows Home 11 22H2 (9/20/22) 64-bit
* OS Build: 22621.521

SYSINFO
* RAM: 16GB
* Intel 2.60 GHz i7-9570h CPU












hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Gregory


So you are saying there is no log on screen so it goes straight into windows? Then you hear the sound of nvda starting then nothing after that. NVDA ends up on the task bar and may or may not be heard. If that is the case use the Windows key + letter D to put it on the desktop.


If nvda is loading but not speaking  it might of some how gone to no speech.


Use the ctrl key + nvda key + the letter S it should then tell you if it is set to no speech if it is find a synth package I know E speak is default and see if speech comes back.


Try also the nvda key + letter S to toogle it to speech  just in case it was accidentally turned off.


Try also looking under the volume controls to see if nvdas is set to zero. Press the windows key and in the search box type sndvol then press the enter key.



You will need to look for the volume control for nvda and turn it up..


Only last week I just upgraded 3 machines to windows 11 but had no sound problems when nvda was installed..

If they press the windows key does nvda speak? or even on the desk top?


I am thinking also get them to see what sound card is assigned under the synth settings.


Gene nz

 ng

On 30/09/2022 6:47 am, Gregory J. Rosmaita wrote:
Hello. Reporting for a friend who may or may not be able to directly
participate in this thread.

PROBLEM: NVDA stops working as expected as soon as it loads,
preventing the user from being able to use it to interact with his
computer. NVDA will open & start. The setting menus' buttons are now
reset & no longer work to what normal NVDA defaults are/should be.

NVDA version:
* NVDA 2022.2.3

PC INFO
* Windows Home 11 22H2 (9/20/22) 64-bit
* OS Build: 22621.521

SYSINFO
* RAM: 16GB
* Intel 2.60 GHz i7-9570h CPU




Gregory J. Rosmaita
 

Thank you for the reply & suggestions. Relaying them now, but user
might need to wait to reply because no signted assistance available
right now.

On 9/29/22, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
What steps have you and he taken to troubleshoot? Have you tried running the
com reg tool, scanning windows for errors? Restarting the system?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gregory J.
Rosmaita
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:47 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not speaking after Win 11 upgrade to 22H2

Hello. Reporting for a friend who may or may not be able to directly
participate in this thread.

PROBLEM: NVDA stops working as expected as soon as it loads, preventing the
user from being able to use it to interact with his computer. NVDA will open
& start. The setting menus' buttons are now reset & no longer work to what
normal NVDA defaults are/should be.

NVDA version:
* NVDA 2022.2.3

PC INFO
* Windows Home 11 22H2 (9/20/22) 64-bit
* OS Build: 22621.521

SYSINFO
* RAM: 16GB
* Intel 2.60 GHz i7-9570h CPU












Sarah k Alawami
 

What steps have you and he taken to troubleshoot? Have you tried running the com reg tool, scanning windows for errors? Restarting the system?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gregory J. Rosmaita
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:47 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not speaking after Win 11 upgrade to 22H2

Hello. Reporting for a friend who may or may not be able to directly participate in this thread.

PROBLEM: NVDA stops working as expected as soon as it loads, preventing the user from being able to use it to interact with his computer. NVDA will open & start. The setting menus' buttons are now reset & no longer work to what normal NVDA defaults are/should be.

NVDA version:
* NVDA 2022.2.3

PC INFO
* Windows Home 11 22H2 (9/20/22) 64-bit
* OS Build: 22621.521

SYSINFO
* RAM: 16GB
* Intel 2.60 GHz i7-9570h CPU


Gregory J. Rosmaita
 

Hello. Reporting for a friend who may or may not be able to directly
participate in this thread.

PROBLEM: NVDA stops working as expected as soon as it loads,
preventing the user from being able to use it to interact with his
computer. NVDA will open & start. The setting menus' buttons are now
reset & no longer work to what normal NVDA defaults are/should be.

NVDA version:
* NVDA 2022.2.3

PC INFO
* Windows Home 11 22H2 (9/20/22) 64-bit
* OS Build: 22621.521

SYSINFO
* RAM: 16GB
* Intel 2.60 GHz i7-9570h CPU