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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
This box is somehow getting unchecked when my client restarts her pc. she is running the latest: NVDA, windows 11. What is also odd is that I can remote her and there is no speech on my side either. When I ask her to press alt+ctrl+n It reboots NVDA and we both have speech. I go into general settings and that box shows as unchecked. this started yesterday and she called me about it again this morning. -- ****** Sometimes I think I understand everything, and then I regain consciousness. --------- Family Times theatre http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/streamor ask your smart speaker to play family times on tune-in
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How is she restarting the PC? And that's a serious question, as Restart always forces Windows to reload from scratch from the disk, while doing a Shutdown and powering up again may not if Fast Startup is enabled on the system. Though restarting is the first of the things to do in, The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues, it's always worth doing the remaining two, though in this case I am doubtful this will result in a fix. You just never know. It sounds like the often-used technique of checking, unchecking, then checking the option again has already been tried and not worked. Beyond that, my only recommendation would be an uninstall and reinstall of NVDA. If that's not viable, and she knows the NVDA startup keyboard command, then keep using that for the time being. --
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045
There are many people who can only make themselves feel better about themselves by making themselves feel better than others.
~ Commenter Looking_in on the Washington Post, 7/10/2014
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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
She is an older lady who only knows to shut it off. it happened
yesterday and again today.
On 10/25/2022 9:30 AM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
How is she restarting the PC? And that's a serious question, as
Restart always forces Windows to reload from scratch from the
disk, while doing a Shutdown and powering up again may not if Fast
Startup is enabled on the system.
Though restarting is the first of the things to do in, The Most Basic
Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues,
it's always worth doing the remaining two, though in this case I
am doubtful this will result in a fix. You just never know.
It sounds like the often-used technique of checking, unchecking,
then checking the option again has already been tried and not
worked.
Beyond that, my only recommendation would be an uninstall and
reinstall of NVDA. If that's not viable, and she knows the NVDA
startup keyboard command, then keep using that for the time being.
--
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10,
64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045
There
are many people who can only make themselves feel better
about themselves by making themselves feel better than
others.
~ Commenter Looking_in
on the Washington Post, 7/10/2014
--
******
Sometimes I think I understand everything, and then I regain consciousness.
---------
Family Times theatre
http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream
or ask your smart speaker to play family times on tune-in
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As well as Brian's suggestions, is "Save configuration on exit" checked on the general settings screen (the same screen as you're looking on for starting on the logon screen etc)? If it isn't checked, then that's why your
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 2:33 AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer < godfearer@...> wrote:
She is an older lady who only knows to shut it off. it happened
yesterday and again today.
On 10/25/2022 9:30 AM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
How is she restarting the PC? And that's a serious question, as
Restart always forces Windows to reload from scratch from the
disk, while doing a Shutdown and powering up again may not if Fast
Startup is enabled on the system.
Though restarting is the first of the things to do in, The Most Basic
Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues,
it's always worth doing the remaining two, though in this case I
am doubtful this will result in a fix. You just never know.
It sounds like the often-used technique of checking, unchecking,
then checking the option again has already been tried and not
worked.
Beyond that, my only recommendation would be an uninstall and
reinstall of NVDA. If that's not viable, and she knows the NVDA
startup keyboard command, then keep using that for the time being.
--
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10,
64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045
There
are many people who can only make themselves feel better
about themselves by making themselves feel better than
others.
~ Commenter Looking_in
on the Washington Post, 7/10/2014
--
******
Sometimes I think I understand everything, and then I regain consciousness.
---------
Family Times theatre
http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream
or ask your smart speaker to play family times on tune-in
-- Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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Oops, went to rewrite my message and accidentally posted it :)
What I realised after writing that much was when you change whether NVDA starts on the logon screen, and either apply or OK the dialog, you should get a user account control dialog pop up advising that NVDA is about to make changes to the system. You need to acknowledge that before it will save.
For most other settings it's worth being aware of whether the configuration is saved on exit or not (if not and you want to save changes, make your changes and press NVDA+control+r).
We see occasional reports of this setting getting changed when NVDA updates. We haven't got to the bottom of exactly why, but the fix is generally to turn the setting off, save then turn it back on.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:39 AM Quentin Christensen < quentin@...> wrote: As well as Brian's suggestions, is "Save configuration on exit" checked on the general settings screen (the same screen as you're looking on for starting on the logon screen etc)? If it isn't checked, then that's why your
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 2:33 AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer < godfearer@...> wrote:
She is an older lady who only knows to shut it off. it happened
yesterday and again today.
On 10/25/2022 9:30 AM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
How is she restarting the PC? And that's a serious question, as
Restart always forces Windows to reload from scratch from the
disk, while doing a Shutdown and powering up again may not if Fast
Startup is enabled on the system.
Though restarting is the first of the things to do in, The Most Basic
Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues,
it's always worth doing the remaining two, though in this case I
am doubtful this will result in a fix. You just never know.
It sounds like the often-used technique of checking, unchecking,
then checking the option again has already been tried and not
worked.
Beyond that, my only recommendation would be an uninstall and
reinstall of NVDA. If that's not viable, and she knows the NVDA
startup keyboard command, then keep using that for the time being.
--
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10,
64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045
There
are many people who can only make themselves feel better
about themselves by making themselves feel better than
others.
~ Commenter Looking_in
on the Washington Post, 7/10/2014
--
******
Sometimes I think I understand everything, and then I regain consciousness.
---------
Family Times theatre
http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream
or ask your smart speaker to play family times on tune-in
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
-- Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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You meant to say NVDA control c to manually save settings you have
changed instead of having them be saved on exit.
NVDA control R undoes any changes you have made that haven't been
saved. I find that command very useful if I want to change
something temporarily and then change back to the settings I usually
use. Sometimes, I might want to change the punctuation level or a
voice or reading speed, and whatever change or changes I've made, I
can get everything back to the way it was using one command, NVDA
key control r, if the changes i made hadn't been saved.
Gene
On 10/25/2022 6:42 PM, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
Oops, went to rewrite my message and accidentally
posted it :)
What I realised after writing that much was when you change
whether NVDA starts on the logon screen, and either apply or
OK the dialog, you should get a user account control dialog
pop up advising that NVDA is about to make changes to the
system. You need to acknowledge that before it will save.
For most other settings it's worth being aware of whether
the configuration is saved on exit or not (if not and you want
to save changes, make your changes and press NVDA+control+r).
We see occasional reports of this setting getting changed
when NVDA updates. We haven't got to the bottom of exactly
why, but the fix is generally to turn the setting off, save
then turn it back on.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 10:39
AM Quentin Christensen < quentin@...>
wrote:
As well as Brian's suggestions, is "Save
configuration on exit" checked on the general settings
screen (the same screen as you're looking on for starting on
the logon screen etc)? If it isn't checked, then that's why
your
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at
2:33 AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer < godfearer@...>
wrote:
She is an older lady who only knows to shut it off.
it happened yesterday and again today.
On 10/25/2022 9:30 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
How is she restarting the PC?
And that's a serious question, as Restart always
forces Windows to reload from scratch from the disk,
while doing a Shutdown and powering up again may not
if Fast Startup is enabled on the system.
Though restarting is the first of the things to do
in, The Most Basic
Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues,
it's always worth doing the remaining two, though in
this case I am doubtful this will result in a fix.
You just never know.
It sounds like the often-used technique of checking,
unchecking, then checking the option again has already
been tried and not worked.
Beyond that, my only recommendation would be an
uninstall and reinstall of NVDA. If that's not
viable, and she knows the NVDA startup keyboard
command, then keep using that for the time being.
--
Brian - Virginia,
USA - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045
There are many people who can
only make themselves feel better about
themselves by making themselves feel better
than others.
~ Commenter Looking_in on the Washington
Post, 7/10/2014
--
******
Sometimes I think I understand everything, and then I regain consciousness.
---------
Family Times theatre
http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream
or ask your smart speaker to play family times on tune-in
--
Quentin
Christensen
Training and Support Manager
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
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On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 11:33 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
She is an older lady who only knows to shut it off.
- Then for the love of heaven, teach her CTRL + ALT + N to turn NVDA on! This is not any more difficult than NVDA + Q, followed by confirming exit to shut it down. A very good chunk of my clients are seniors. They can, and do, learn, particulary something this direct. Until the issue is resolved, this is a lifeline for her. --
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045
There are many people who can only make themselves feel better about themselves by making themselves feel better than others.
~ Commenter Looking_in on the Washington Post, 7/10/2014
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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Yes, it is checked and I pressed nvda+ctrl+c after checking the
box on Monday. yet Tuesday the box was unchecked again.
On 10/25/2022 5:39 PM, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
As well as Brian's suggestions, is "Save
configuration on exit" checked on the general settings screen
(the same screen as you're looking on for starting on the logon
screen etc)? If it isn't checked, then that's why your
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 2:33
AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer < godfearer@...>
wrote:
She is an older lady who only knows to shut it off. it
happened yesterday and again today.
On 10/25/2022 9:30 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
How is she restarting the PC? And
that's a serious question, as Restart always forces
Windows to reload from scratch from the disk, while doing
a Shutdown and powering up again may not if Fast Startup
is enabled on the system.
Though restarting is the first of the things to do in, The Most
Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA
Issues, it's always worth doing
the remaining two, though in this case I am doubtful this
will result in a fix. You just never know.
It sounds like the often-used technique of checking,
unchecking, then checking the option again has already
been tried and not worked.
Beyond that, my only recommendation would be an uninstall
and reinstall of NVDA. If that's not viable, and she
knows the NVDA startup keyboard command, then keep using
that for the time being.
--
Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit,
Version 22H2, Build 19045
There are many
people who can only make themselves feel better
about themselves by making themselves feel better
than others.
~ Commenter Looking_in
on the Washington Post, 7/10/2014
--
******
Sometimes I think I understand everything, and then I regain consciousness.
---------
Family Times theatre
http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream
or ask your smart speaker to play family times on tune-in
--
Quentin
Christensen
Training and Support Manager
--
******
Sometimes I think I understand everything, and then I regain consciousness.
---------
Family Times theatre
http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream
or ask your smart speaker to play family times on tune-in
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Sarah k Alawami
Are you sure she is not unchecking the box? You did uncheck it, apply, ok, then go back into settings, check the box, apply, ok, reboot?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 12:23 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] start NVDA after I log in Yes, it is checked and I pressed nvda+ctrl+c after checking the box on Monday. yet Tuesday the box was unchecked again. On 10/25/2022 5:39 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote: As well as Brian's suggestions, is "Save configuration on exit" checked on the general settings screen (the same screen as you're looking on for starting on the logon screen etc)? If it isn't checked, then that's why your On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 2:33 AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote: She is an older lady who only knows to shut it off. it happened yesterday and again today. On 10/25/2022 9:30 AM, Brian Vogel wrote: How is she restarting the PC? And that's a serious question, as Restart always forces Windows to reload from scratch from the disk, while doing a Shutdown and powering up again may not if Fast Startup is enabled on the system.
Though restarting is the first of the things to do in, The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues, it's always worth doing the remaining two, though in this case I am doubtful this will result in a fix. You just never know.
It sounds like the often-used technique of checking, unchecking, then checking the option again has already been tried and not worked.
Beyond that, my only recommendation would be an uninstall and reinstall of NVDA. If that's not viable, and she knows the NVDA startup keyboard command, then keep using that for the time being.
-- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045 There are many people who can only make themselves feel better about themselves by making themselves feel better than others. ~ Commenter Looking_in on the Washington Post, 7/10/2014
-- ****** Sometimes I think I understand everything, and then I regain consciousness. --------- Family Times theatre http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream or ask your smart speaker to play family times on tune-in
-- Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
-- ****** Sometimes I think I understand everything, and then I regain consciousness. --------- Family Times theatre http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream or ask your smart speaker to play family times on tune-in
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I believe someone suggested creating a short cut command to run
NVDA. I'm not sure what is causing the problem. It may be a minor
corruption in the registry, where the setting is stored.
If you don't want the person to use a short cut command, you can
solve the problem by using the start folder. I haven't looked at
the folder or read about how to work with it for so many years that
I'm not sure what it is called and I have worked with it so seldom
that I don't recall how you cause a program to run at boot up using
it. But that will solve your problem and others may discuss how to
do so.
Gene
On 10/26/2022 2:23 PM, Robert Doc
Wright godfearer wrote:
Yes, it is checked and I pressed nvda+ctrl+c after checking
the box on Monday. yet Tuesday the box was unchecked again.
On 10/25/2022 5:39 PM, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
As well as Brian's suggestions, is "Save
configuration on exit" checked on the general settings screen
(the same screen as you're looking on for starting on the
logon screen etc)? If it isn't checked, then that's why your
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 2:33
AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer < godfearer@...>
wrote:
She is an older lady who only knows to shut it off. it
happened yesterday and again today.
On 10/25/2022 9:30 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
How is she restarting the PC?
And that's a serious question, as Restart always forces
Windows to reload from scratch from the disk, while
doing a Shutdown and powering up again may not if Fast
Startup is enabled on the system.
Though restarting is the first of the things to do in, The Most Basic
Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues,
it's always worth doing the remaining two, though in
this case I am doubtful this will result in a fix. You
just never know.
It sounds like the often-used technique of checking,
unchecking, then checking the option again has already
been tried and not worked.
Beyond that, my only recommendation would be an
uninstall and reinstall of NVDA. If that's not viable,
and she knows the NVDA startup keyboard command, then
keep using that for the time being.
--
Brian - Virginia,
USA - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045
There are many people who can only
make themselves feel better about themselves by
making themselves feel better than others.
~ Commenter Looking_in on the Washington
Post, 7/10/2014
--
******
Sometimes I think I understand everything, and then I regain consciousness.
---------
Family Times theatre
http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream
or ask your smart speaker to play family times on tune-in
--
Quentin
Christensen
Training and Support Manager
--
******
Sometimes I think I understand everything, and then I regain consciousness.
---------
Family Times theatre
http://familytimes.wrighthere.net:9244/stream
or ask your smart speaker to play family times on tune-in
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