The settings in both the NVDA speech dialogue and symbols pronunciation dialogue are set to "none," and the problem still persist.


On 11/20/2022 11:14 AM, Gene wrote:

Set the NVDA setting, not anything in the dialog, to none.  See if that solves the problem.  The dialog is for setting the level at which you want punctuation to be spoken.  If you don't have any specific punctuation set to none, setting NVDA itself to the none level will cause nothing to be spoken except in the circumstances you described.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 12:04 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

In both the punctuation symbols dialogue and the speech dialogue, punctuation levels are set to "some," and I still have the problem.


On 11/20/2022 10:54 AM, Gene wrote:

I don't know how you have changed things, but if you set NVDA's punctuation level to none, that is what you will get if you haven't set anything to be spoken at the none level.

If you set NVDA's punctuation level to none and still hear punctuation spoken, go into the dialog, and set the level for what you hear spoken to some, most, or all.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 11:46 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

I only want punctuation spoken when navigating by character or when typing. I guess that's not what this dialogue is for. Darn it! I suppose there's nothing I can do about it now unless I want to completely uninstall NVDA and start from scratch. I guess I'll just have to get used to this punctuation situation. Thanks.


On 11/20/2022 10:09 AM, Gene wrote:

Unfortunately, there is no reset to default in that dialog, which I consider a problem that should be addressed in developing the next NVDA version.

This is a complicated dialog and you can set perhaps hundreds of items.

But doing that in your case might not give you the results you want.  At what level do you want specific punctuation marks read? If you want certain things spoken at the some level, for example, and more things spoken at the most level, you can set each punctuation mark for the level you want.  I want none to be spoken at none and that is the default NVDA setting, no punctuation is spoken at none.

You, however, might want certain specific marks spoken at none.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 11:03 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Okay, is there any way I can just set the punctuation symbols to their default settings? As I said earlier, I tried resetting NVDA's configuration, but that didn't seem to solve the problem.


On 11/20/2022 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:

As far as the differences you are discussing, I don't know about that. But you said that punctuation is spoken in say all even though the level is set to some.  If you are talking about say all, meaning speak to the end of a document, that has nothing to do with the levels such as some, most, etc. that you can set for punctuation marks.

If you set a punctuation mark to be spoken when your punctuation level is set to none, it will be spoken at that setting and in all the other settings.
If, on the other hand, you have a punctuation mark set to all, it won't be spoken unless NVDA is set to the all punctuation setting.

When you set a punctuation mark to a certain level, most, for example, it means the punctuation will be spoken at that level and in levels above that.  A most setting means it will be spoken at most or all but not in none or some.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 10:19 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

I tried changing the way NVDA pronounces the exclamation point and the apostrophe. But after following the instructions given on the In Process site, NVDA now reads those punctuation marks while using the Say All feature, even though I have the punctuation level in the speech punctuation dialogue sent to "some." For example, when reading a sentence, it says, "exclamation point" at the end of the sentence. But when I read by character, it still says, "bang" when it gets to the exclamation point.


The articles in In Process don't indicate the way the punctuation levels should be set in the symbols dialogue in order for this to work properly. I've tried different combinations with similar results. I even tried deleting the replacement words from the edit field, but that doesn't solve the problem. I've tried restarting NVDA and resetting it to its default configuration, but that didn't solve the problem. This is driving me nuts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Set the NVDA setting, not anything in the dialog, to none.  See if that solves the problem.  The dialog is for setting the level at which you want punctuation to be spoken.  If you don't have any specific punctuation set to none, setting NVDA itself to the none level will cause nothing to be spoken except in the circumstances you described.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 12:04 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

In both the punctuation symbols dialogue and the speech dialogue, punctuation levels are set to "some," and I still have the problem.


On 11/20/2022 10:54 AM, Gene wrote:

I don't know how you have changed things, but if you set NVDA's punctuation level to none, that is what you will get if you haven't set anything to be spoken at the none level.

If you set NVDA's punctuation level to none and still hear punctuation spoken, go into the dialog, and set the level for what you hear spoken to some, most, or all.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 11:46 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

I only want punctuation spoken when navigating by character or when typing. I guess that's not what this dialogue is for. Darn it! I suppose there's nothing I can do about it now unless I want to completely uninstall NVDA and start from scratch. I guess I'll just have to get used to this punctuation situation. Thanks.


On 11/20/2022 10:09 AM, Gene wrote:

Unfortunately, there is no reset to default in that dialog, which I consider a problem that should be addressed in developing the next NVDA version.

This is a complicated dialog and you can set perhaps hundreds of items.

But doing that in your case might not give you the results you want.  At what level do you want specific punctuation marks read? If you want certain things spoken at the some level, for example, and more things spoken at the most level, you can set each punctuation mark for the level you want.  I want none to be spoken at none and that is the default NVDA setting, no punctuation is spoken at none.

You, however, might want certain specific marks spoken at none.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 11:03 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Okay, is there any way I can just set the punctuation symbols to their default settings? As I said earlier, I tried resetting NVDA's configuration, but that didn't seem to solve the problem.


On 11/20/2022 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:

As far as the differences you are discussing, I don't know about that. But you said that punctuation is spoken in say all even though the level is set to some.  If you are talking about say all, meaning speak to the end of a document, that has nothing to do with the levels such as some, most, etc. that you can set for punctuation marks.

If you set a punctuation mark to be spoken when your punctuation level is set to none, it will be spoken at that setting and in all the other settings.
If, on the other hand, you have a punctuation mark set to all, it won't be spoken unless NVDA is set to the all punctuation setting.

When you set a punctuation mark to a certain level, most, for example, it means the punctuation will be spoken at that level and in levels above that.  A most setting means it will be spoken at most or all but not in none or some.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 10:19 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

I tried changing the way NVDA pronounces the exclamation point and the apostrophe. But after following the instructions given on the In Process site, NVDA now reads those punctuation marks while using the Say All feature, even though I have the punctuation level in the speech punctuation dialogue sent to "some." For example, when reading a sentence, it says, "exclamation point" at the end of the sentence. But when I read by character, it still says, "bang" when it gets to the exclamation point.


The articles in In Process don't indicate the way the punctuation levels should be set in the symbols dialogue in order for this to work properly. I've tried different combinations with similar results. I even tried deleting the replacement words from the edit field, but that doesn't solve the problem. I've tried restarting NVDA and resetting it to its default configuration, but that didn't solve the problem. This is driving me nuts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

In both the punctuation symbols dialogue and the speech dialogue, punctuation levels are set to "some," and I still have the problem.


On 11/20/2022 10:54 AM, Gene wrote:

I don't know how you have changed things, but if you set NVDA's punctuation level to none, that is what you will get if you haven't set anything to be spoken at the none level.

If you set NVDA's punctuation level to none and still hear punctuation spoken, go into the dialog, and set the level for what you hear spoken to some, most, or all.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 11:46 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

I only want punctuation spoken when navigating by character or when typing. I guess that's not what this dialogue is for. Darn it! I suppose there's nothing I can do about it now unless I want to completely uninstall NVDA and start from scratch. I guess I'll just have to get used to this punctuation situation. Thanks.


On 11/20/2022 10:09 AM, Gene wrote:

Unfortunately, there is no reset to default in that dialog, which I consider a problem that should be addressed in developing the next NVDA version.

This is a complicated dialog and you can set perhaps hundreds of items.

But doing that in your case might not give you the results you want.  At what level do you want specific punctuation marks read? If you want certain things spoken at the some level, for example, and more things spoken at the most level, you can set each punctuation mark for the level you want.  I want none to be spoken at none and that is the default NVDA setting, no punctuation is spoken at none.

You, however, might want certain specific marks spoken at none.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 11:03 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Okay, is there any way I can just set the punctuation symbols to their default settings? As I said earlier, I tried resetting NVDA's configuration, but that didn't seem to solve the problem.


On 11/20/2022 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:

As far as the differences you are discussing, I don't know about that. But you said that punctuation is spoken in say all even though the level is set to some.  If you are talking about say all, meaning speak to the end of a document, that has nothing to do with the levels such as some, most, etc. that you can set for punctuation marks.

If you set a punctuation mark to be spoken when your punctuation level is set to none, it will be spoken at that setting and in all the other settings.
If, on the other hand, you have a punctuation mark set to all, it won't be spoken unless NVDA is set to the all punctuation setting.

When you set a punctuation mark to a certain level, most, for example, it means the punctuation will be spoken at that level and in levels above that.  A most setting means it will be spoken at most or all but not in none or some.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 10:19 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

I tried changing the way NVDA pronounces the exclamation point and the apostrophe. But after following the instructions given on the In Process site, NVDA now reads those punctuation marks while using the Say All feature, even though I have the punctuation level in the speech punctuation dialogue sent to "some." For example, when reading a sentence, it says, "exclamation point" at the end of the sentence. But when I read by character, it still says, "bang" when it gets to the exclamation point.


The articles in In Process don't indicate the way the punctuation levels should be set in the symbols dialogue in order for this to work properly. I've tried different combinations with similar results. I even tried deleting the replacement words from the edit field, but that doesn't solve the problem. I've tried restarting NVDA and resetting it to its default configuration, but that didn't solve the problem. This is driving me nuts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I don't know how you have changed things, but if you set NVDA's punctuation level to none, that is what you will get if you haven't set anything to be spoken at the none level.

If you set NVDA's punctuation level to none and still hear punctuation spoken, go into the dialog, and set the level for what you hear spoken to some, most, or all.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 11:46 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

I only want punctuation spoken when navigating by character or when typing. I guess that's not what this dialogue is for. Darn it! I suppose there's nothing I can do about it now unless I want to completely uninstall NVDA and start from scratch. I guess I'll just have to get used to this punctuation situation. Thanks.


On 11/20/2022 10:09 AM, Gene wrote:

Unfortunately, there is no reset to default in that dialog, which I consider a problem that should be addressed in developing the next NVDA version.

This is a complicated dialog and you can set perhaps hundreds of items.

But doing that in your case might not give you the results you want.  At what level do you want specific punctuation marks read? If you want certain things spoken at the some level, for example, and more things spoken at the most level, you can set each punctuation mark for the level you want.  I want none to be spoken at none and that is the default NVDA setting, no punctuation is spoken at none.

You, however, might want certain specific marks spoken at none.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 11:03 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Okay, is there any way I can just set the punctuation symbols to their default settings? As I said earlier, I tried resetting NVDA's configuration, but that didn't seem to solve the problem.


On 11/20/2022 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:

As far as the differences you are discussing, I don't know about that. But you said that punctuation is spoken in say all even though the level is set to some.  If you are talking about say all, meaning speak to the end of a document, that has nothing to do with the levels such as some, most, etc. that you can set for punctuation marks.

If you set a punctuation mark to be spoken when your punctuation level is set to none, it will be spoken at that setting and in all the other settings.
If, on the other hand, you have a punctuation mark set to all, it won't be spoken unless NVDA is set to the all punctuation setting.

When you set a punctuation mark to a certain level, most, for example, it means the punctuation will be spoken at that level and in levels above that.  A most setting means it will be spoken at most or all but not in none or some.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 10:19 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

I tried changing the way NVDA pronounces the exclamation point and the apostrophe. But after following the instructions given on the In Process site, NVDA now reads those punctuation marks while using the Say All feature, even though I have the punctuation level in the speech punctuation dialogue sent to "some." For example, when reading a sentence, it says, "exclamation point" at the end of the sentence. But when I read by character, it still says, "bang" when it gets to the exclamation point.


The articles in In Process don't indicate the way the punctuation levels should be set in the symbols dialogue in order for this to work properly. I've tried different combinations with similar results. I even tried deleting the replacement words from the edit field, but that doesn't solve the problem. I've tried restarting NVDA and resetting it to its default configuration, but that didn't solve the problem. This is driving me nuts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I only want punctuation spoken when navigating by character or when typing. I guess that's not what this dialogue is for. Darn it! I suppose there's nothing I can do about it now unless I want to completely uninstall NVDA and start from scratch. I guess I'll just have to get used to this punctuation situation. Thanks.


On 11/20/2022 10:09 AM, Gene wrote:

Unfortunately, there is no reset to default in that dialog, which I consider a problem that should be addressed in developing the next NVDA version.

This is a complicated dialog and you can set perhaps hundreds of items.

But doing that in your case might not give you the results you want.  At what level do you want specific punctuation marks read? If you want certain things spoken at the some level, for example, and more things spoken at the most level, you can set each punctuation mark for the level you want.  I want none to be spoken at none and that is the default NVDA setting, no punctuation is spoken at none.

You, however, might want certain specific marks spoken at none.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 11:03 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Okay, is there any way I can just set the punctuation symbols to their default settings? As I said earlier, I tried resetting NVDA's configuration, but that didn't seem to solve the problem.


On 11/20/2022 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:

As far as the differences you are discussing, I don't know about that. But you said that punctuation is spoken in say all even though the level is set to some.  If you are talking about say all, meaning speak to the end of a document, that has nothing to do with the levels such as some, most, etc. that you can set for punctuation marks.

If you set a punctuation mark to be spoken when your punctuation level is set to none, it will be spoken at that setting and in all the other settings.
If, on the other hand, you have a punctuation mark set to all, it won't be spoken unless NVDA is set to the all punctuation setting.

When you set a punctuation mark to a certain level, most, for example, it means the punctuation will be spoken at that level and in levels above that.  A most setting means it will be spoken at most or all but not in none or some.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 10:19 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

I tried changing the way NVDA pronounces the exclamation point and the apostrophe. But after following the instructions given on the In Process site, NVDA now reads those punctuation marks while using the Say All feature, even though I have the punctuation level in the speech punctuation dialogue sent to "some." For example, when reading a sentence, it says, "exclamation point" at the end of the sentence. But when I read by character, it still says, "bang" when it gets to the exclamation point.


The articles in In Process don't indicate the way the punctuation levels should be set in the symbols dialogue in order for this to work properly. I've tried different combinations with similar results. I even tried deleting the replacement words from the edit field, but that doesn't solve the problem. I've tried restarting NVDA and resetting it to its default configuration, but that didn't solve the problem. This is driving me nuts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Unfortunately, there is no reset to default in that dialog, which I consider a problem that should be addressed in developing the next NVDA version.

This is a complicated dialog and you can set perhaps hundreds of items.

But doing that in your case might not give you the results you want.  At what level do you want specific punctuation marks read? If you want certain things spoken at the some level, for example, and more things spoken at the most level, you can set each punctuation mark for the level you want.  I want none to be spoken at none and that is the default NVDA setting, no punctuation is spoken at none.

You, however, might want certain specific marks spoken at none.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 11:03 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Okay, is there any way I can just set the punctuation symbols to their default settings? As I said earlier, I tried resetting NVDA's configuration, but that didn't seem to solve the problem.


On 11/20/2022 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:

As far as the differences you are discussing, I don't know about that. But you said that punctuation is spoken in say all even though the level is set to some.  If you are talking about say all, meaning speak to the end of a document, that has nothing to do with the levels such as some, most, etc. that you can set for punctuation marks.

If you set a punctuation mark to be spoken when your punctuation level is set to none, it will be spoken at that setting and in all the other settings.
If, on the other hand, you have a punctuation mark set to all, it won't be spoken unless NVDA is set to the all punctuation setting.

When you set a punctuation mark to a certain level, most, for example, it means the punctuation will be spoken at that level and in levels above that.  A most setting means it will be spoken at most or all but not in none or some.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 10:19 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

I tried changing the way NVDA pronounces the exclamation point and the apostrophe. But after following the instructions given on the In Process site, NVDA now reads those punctuation marks while using the Say All feature, even though I have the punctuation level in the speech punctuation dialogue sent to "some." For example, when reading a sentence, it says, "exclamation point" at the end of the sentence. But when I read by character, it still says, "bang" when it gets to the exclamation point.


The articles in In Process don't indicate the way the punctuation levels should be set in the symbols dialogue in order for this to work properly. I've tried different combinations with similar results. I even tried deleting the replacement words from the edit field, but that doesn't solve the problem. I've tried restarting NVDA and resetting it to its default configuration, but that didn't solve the problem. This is driving me nuts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Okay, is there any way I can just set the punctuation symbols to their default settings? As I said earlier, I tried resetting NVDA's configuration, but that didn't seem to solve the problem.


On 11/20/2022 9:51 AM, Gene wrote:

As far as the differences you are discussing, I don't know about that. But you said that punctuation is spoken in say all even though the level is set to some.  If you are talking about say all, meaning speak to the end of a document, that has nothing to do with the levels such as some, most, etc. that you can set for punctuation marks.

If you set a punctuation mark to be spoken when your punctuation level is set to none, it will be spoken at that setting and in all the other settings.
If, on the other hand, you have a punctuation mark set to all, it won't be spoken unless NVDA is set to the all punctuation setting.

When you set a punctuation mark to a certain level, most, for example, it means the punctuation will be spoken at that level and in levels above that.  A most setting means it will be spoken at most or all but not in none or some.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 10:19 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

I tried changing the way NVDA pronounces the exclamation point and the apostrophe. But after following the instructions given on the In Process site, NVDA now reads those punctuation marks while using the Say All feature, even though I have the punctuation level in the speech punctuation dialogue sent to "some." For example, when reading a sentence, it says, "exclamation point" at the end of the sentence. But when I read by character, it still says, "bang" when it gets to the exclamation point.


The articles in In Process don't indicate the way the punctuation levels should be set in the symbols dialogue in order for this to work properly. I've tried different combinations with similar results. I even tried deleting the replacement words from the edit field, but that doesn't solve the problem. I've tried restarting NVDA and resetting it to its default configuration, but that didn't solve the problem. This is driving me nuts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

As far as the differences you are discussing, I don't know about that. But you said that punctuation is spoken in say all even though the level is set to some.  If you are talking about say all, meaning speak to the end of a document, that has nothing to do with the levels such as some, most, etc. that you can set for punctuation marks.

If you set a punctuation mark to be spoken when your punctuation level is set to none, it will be spoken at that setting and in all the other settings.
If, on the other hand, you have a punctuation mark set to all, it won't be spoken unless NVDA is set to the all punctuation setting.

When you set a punctuation mark to a certain level, most, for example, it means the punctuation will be spoken at that level and in levels above that.  A most setting means it will be spoken at most or all but not in none or some.

Gene

On 11/20/2022 10:19 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

I tried changing the way NVDA pronounces the exclamation point and the apostrophe. But after following the instructions given on the In Process site, NVDA now reads those punctuation marks while using the Say All feature, even though I have the punctuation level in the speech punctuation dialogue sent to "some." For example, when reading a sentence, it says, "exclamation point" at the end of the sentence. But when I read by character, it still says, "bang" when it gets to the exclamation point.


The articles in In Process don't indicate the way the punctuation levels should be set in the symbols dialogue in order for this to work properly. I've tried different combinations with similar results. I even tried deleting the replacement words from the edit field, but that doesn't solve the problem. I've tried restarting NVDA and resetting it to its default configuration, but that didn't solve the problem. This is driving me nuts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I tried changing the way NVDA pronounces the exclamation point and the apostrophe. But after following the instructions given on the In Process site, NVDA now reads those punctuation marks while using the Say All feature, even though I have the punctuation level in the speech punctuation dialogue sent to "some." For example, when reading a sentence, it says, "exclamation point" at the end of the sentence. But when I read by character, it still says, "bang" when it gets to the exclamation point.


The articles in In Process don't indicate the way the punctuation levels should be set in the symbols dialogue in order for this to work properly. I've tried different combinations with similar results. I even tried deleting the replacement words from the edit field, but that doesn't solve the problem. I've tried restarting NVDA and resetting it to its default configuration, but that didn't solve the problem. This is driving me nuts. Any help would be greatly appreciated.