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Don H
What is the difference between something on a web page that NVDA says is clickable and something on the web page that NVDA says is a link?
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Not much in today's world. I know that answer is quite vague, however a clickable can take you to another page as well as a link, it's just the way the code is written. A clickable as well as a link can even modify the page you are on thereby not taking you to the next page but leaving you on the same one.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 5:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] clickable versus link What is the difference between something on a web page that NVDA says is clickable and something on the web page that NVDA says is a link? Thanks |
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Yeti
Hello X,
A Link is an element, that leads You somewhere. A Button is an element, that starts a function. A Clickable is an element, that does something. So a clickable is always the result of being lazy. Just like not writing his name under an email ;-) Best regards Yeti |
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Jackie
Yeti, the gentleman's name is in his email header. It says Don H. I'll
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leave it at that despite being tempted to do otherwise. On 12/14/22, Yeti <jbslists@...> wrote:
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Yes, but a button can lead you to another page; a clickable can do the same, a link can activate something on the same page, or not. It all can get very confusing, and do not get me started on links that are buttons
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And buttons which are links. And with that I’m off to untie my head. Lol! -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Yeti Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 8:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link Hello X, A Link is an element, that leads You somewhere. A Button is an element, that starts a function. A Clickable is an element, that does something. So a clickable is always the result of being lazy. Just like not writing his name under an email ;-) Best regards Yeti |
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Yeti
a button can lead you to another page;Of course you can hammer in a nail with pliers. But if you want to use a symbol for driving a nail in a manual, you should use a hammer. So a link should be the hint, that clicking leads You to another position. And a button should be the hint, that You start (or finish) something with it. Ad Astra Yeti |
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Gene
A button doesn't necessarily start or finish something on a web page. It is increasingly common for buttons to expand and collapse information on a web page. This is done so that web pages will fit better on mobile devices. While you can give more or less approximations of what links and controls generally do, context and common sense as well as what you hear announced is the only way to be sure at times of what something does.
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Gene On 12/14/2022 11:28 PM, Yeti wrote:
a button can lead you to another page;Of course you can hammer in a nail with pliers. |
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Brian's Mail list account
I think I asked this in another thread not far back, and really it turns out to be an alternate way to get a specific area to be detected and do something useful, often the choice depends on the whims of the page author. Brian
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-- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link Not much in today's world. I know that answer is quite vague, however a clickable can take you to another page as well as a link, it's just the way the code is written. A clickable as well as a link can even modify the page you are on thereby not taking you to the next page but leaving you on the same one. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 5:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] clickable versus link What is the difference between something on a web page that NVDA says is clickable and something on the web page that NVDA says is a link? Thanks |
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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
How do you execute a clickable?
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From: "Brian's Mail list account via groups.io" <bglists@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link I think I asked this in another thread not far back, and really it turns out to be an alternate way to get a specific area to be detected and do something useful, often the choice depends on the whims of the page author. Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link Not much in today's world. I know that answer is quite vague, however a clickable can take you to another page as well as a link, it's just the way the code is written. A clickable as well as a link can even modify the page you are on thereby not taking you to the next page but leaving you on the same one. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 5:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] clickable versus link What is the difference between something on a web page that NVDA says is clickable and something on the web page that NVDA says is a link? Thanks |
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Monte Single
Yes, ron,
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That is the way to ask this particular question. ...and wht should it do when activated? Paying attention, Mont -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer Sent: December 15, 2022 9:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link How do you execute a clickable? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian's Mail list account via groups.io" <bglists@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link I think I asked this in another thread not far back, and really it turns out to be an alternate way to get a specific area to be detected and do something useful, often the choice depends on the whims of the page author. Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link Not much in today's world. I know that answer is quite vague, however a clickable can take you to another page as well as a link, it's just the way the code is written. A clickable as well as a link can even modify the page you are on thereby not taking you to the next page but leaving you on the same one. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 5:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] clickable versus link What is the difference between something on a web page that NVDA says is clickable and something on the web page that NVDA says is a link? Thanks |
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JM Casey
Just hit enter on the thing.
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Then it'll do wahtever it's supposed to do. Whatever you think ti' supposed to do, is probably what it will do. Like it it says "go here for awesome snake oil clickable"...hit enter and the secret of the snake oil will be thus revealed. -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single Sent: December 15, 2022 10:27 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link Yes, ron, That is the way to ask this particular question. ...and wht should it do when activated? Paying attention, Mont -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer Sent: December 15, 2022 9:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link How do you execute a clickable? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian's Mail list account via groups.io" <bglists@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link I think I asked this in another thread not far back, and really it turns out to be an alternate way to get a specific area to be detected and do something useful, often the choice depends on the whims of the page author. Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link Not much in today's world. I know that answer is quite vague, however a clickable can take you to another page as well as a link, it's just the way the code is written. A clickable as well as a link can even modify the page you are on thereby not taking you to the next page but leaving you on the same one. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 5:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] clickable versus link What is the difference between something on a web page that NVDA says is clickable and something on the web page that NVDA says is a link? Thanks |
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Hit enter, or route with nvda ahift m and left click, then explore the page if you don't hear it changing.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 7:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link How do you execute a clickable? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian's Mail list account via groups.io" <bglists@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link I think I asked this in another thread not far back, and really it turns out to be an alternate way to get a specific area to be detected and do something useful, often the choice depends on the whims of the page author. Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link Not much in today's world. I know that answer is quite vague, however a clickable can take you to another page as well as a link, it's just the way the code is written. A clickable as well as a link can even modify the page you are on thereby not taking you to the next page but leaving you on the same one. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 5:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] clickable versus link What is the difference between something on a web page that NVDA says is clickable and something on the web page that NVDA says is a link? Thanks |
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JM Casey
Sometimes "clickable" doesn't really do anything. Maybe there is something visual going on like the highlighting of text markeda s clickable, but for all intents and purposes it's useless. There was a whiel there where all review text on IMDB seemed to be designated as clickable. Anyway, one should just try it if a certain result is expected, and there doesn'ta ppear to be a standard link.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami Sent: December 15, 2022 10:42 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link Hit enter, or route with nvda ahift m and left click, then explore the page if you don't hear it changing. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 7:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link How do you execute a clickable? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian's Mail list account via groups.io" <bglists@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link I think I asked this in another thread not far back, and really it turns out to be an alternate way to get a specific area to be detected and do something useful, often the choice depends on the whims of the page author. Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link Not much in today's world. I know that answer is quite vague, however a clickable can take you to another page as well as a link, it's just the way the code is written. A clickable as well as a link can even modify the page you are on thereby not taking you to the next page but leaving you on the same one. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 5:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] clickable versus link What is the difference between something on a web page that NVDA says is clickable and something on the web page that NVDA says is a link? Thanks |
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Jay
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I believe you press enter on the clickable element you want to click on. Same thing with a link. You press enter to activate the link or clickable element. -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 8:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link How do you execute a clickable? |
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Monte Single
Yes, Why do I hear clickable so often when nothing happens whether I use enter, spacebar, shift enter, etc..
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I'm not complaining, much. But it's a weird one. -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: December 15, 2022 9:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link Sometimes "clickable" doesn't really do anything. Maybe there is something visual going on like the highlighting of text markeda s clickable, but for all intents and purposes it's useless. There was a whiel there where all review text on IMDB seemed to be designated as clickable. Anyway, one should just try it if a certain result is expected, and there doesn'ta ppear to be a standard link. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami Sent: December 15, 2022 10:42 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link Hit enter, or route with nvda ahift m and left click, then explore the page if you don't hear it changing. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 7:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link How do you execute a clickable? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian's Mail list account via groups.io" <bglists@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link I think I asked this in another thread not far back, and really it turns out to be an alternate way to get a specific area to be detected and do something useful, often the choice depends on the whims of the page author. Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] clickable versus link Not much in today's world. I know that answer is quite vague, however a clickable can take you to another page as well as a link, it's just the way the code is written. A clickable as well as a link can even modify the page you are on thereby not taking you to the next page but leaving you on the same one. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 5:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] clickable versus link What is the difference between something on a web page that NVDA says is clickable and something on the web page that NVDA says is a link? Thanks |
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Gene
Do you hear this with other screen-readers? Years ago, NVDA said clickable often when it shouldn't. It was clutter, though aside from that it didn't do any harm.
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I wonder if the same thing still happens on certain pages. Gene On 12/15/2022 3:41 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Yes, Why do I hear clickable so often when nothing happens whether I use enter, spacebar, shift enter, etc.. |
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