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NVDA reading speed
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Chris Shook
Hi,
I was just curious about something. Do all blind people keep their screen reader at high speeds, or is that just some of us? Chris |
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Vaibhav Saraf
Hi Chris, Over this same forum and some others I have learnt of some users who experience hearing loss in addition to sight loss, and they normally operate on a lower speed. Otherwise I have seen high speeds once one gets enough experience operating them, of course the new learners would keep it quite slow and gradually increase. Thanks, Vaibhav On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 at 09:12, Chris Shook <chris0309@...> wrote: Hi, |
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Gene
I wouldn't generalize beyond a point. While I would expect many blind users to use rapid speeds as they become experienced, I would imagine some people just like or want to use slower speeds even if they are experienced.
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Gene On 12/29/2022 8:12 AM, Chris Shook wrote:
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Pamela Dominguez
No, I’m one who doesn’t. I keep it a little faster than the default speed, but not so fast I can’t understand it. I don’t see the point. Pam.
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From: Chris Shook
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 9:12 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA Chat reading speed
Hi, I was just curious about something. Do all blind people keep their screen reader at high speeds, or is that just some of us? Chris
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Gene
I'm not sure what you mean by you don't see the point. If you
wanted to listen faster, you could try gradually increasing speed
over time and see if you could understand it at faster speeds with
practice. YOu could set it at or a little above your fastest rate
of understanding everything and practice listening for a certain
amount of time a day, however long or short you wish.
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You may not want to listen faster but I save a lot of time being able to listen at 350 words per minute compared to the hunan average speaking rate which is somewhere around 180 words per minute. I can listen faster but if I do, my comprehension goes down. Gene On 12/29/2022 8:38 AM, Pamela Dominguez
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On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 09:12 AM, Chris Shook wrote:
Do all blind people keep their screen reader at high speeds, or is that just some of us?- Just some of you, if my observations from over a decade in tutoring everything from beginners with screen readers to advanced users is any indication. Most people I know who have reading rate set at "auctioneer on cocaine" rates tend to be individuals who've been using screen readers all their lives. Those who came to using them later don't tend to do this as much. And there are exceptions to both of those generalizations, so they're not hard and fast laws. -- Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 19045; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit "Be Yourself" is the worst advice you can give to some people. ~ Tom Masson |
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Pamela Dominguez
I needed to save time when I was in school, and when I was working, but now, there is no reason to. Like I tell people: “It’s not rush hour!” Pam.
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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 9:51 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chat reading speed
I'm not sure what you mean by you don't see the point. If you wanted to listen faster, you could try gradually increasing speed over time and see if you could understand it at faster speeds with practice. YOu could set it at or a little above your fastest rate of understanding everything and practice listening for a certain amount of time a day, however long or short you wish. On 12/29/2022 8:38 AM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
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I keep mine around 70. I use ESpeak.
On 12/29/2022 9:12 AM, Chris Shook
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Chris Shook
Thanks for the feedback. I was just curious.
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Totally blind, and listening to computer speech of one form or another since
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age 10. I'm now 46. I am totally comfortable listening to Jaws or NVDA Eloquence at 70%, and iOS Voiceover with Alex at 75% on my iPhone. I know people who go quite a bit faster than that even. 73, Chris VE3RWJ on qrz.com Follow Me On Twitter -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook Sent: December 29, 2022 12:43 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading speed Thanks for the feedback. I was just curious. |
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I used to be able to listen at 110 to 130 on mac os, thanks to a hack, and
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100 on windows, not anymore on ios it was at 90 before I had to slow it down. I'm 40 and have some hearing loss. -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 9:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading speed Totally blind, and listening to computer speech of one form or another since age 10. I'm now 46. I am totally comfortable listening to Jaws or NVDA Eloquence at 70%, and iOS Voiceover with Alex at 75% on my iPhone. I know people who go quite a bit faster than that even. 73, Chris VE3RWJ on qrz.com Follow Me On Twitter -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook Sent: December 29, 2022 12:43 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading speed Thanks for the feedback. I was just curious. |
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Monte Single
I do not know the per centage I have n v d a set to, but it is around 180
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words a minute. I would just fry my brain if I try 300 words per minute. -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: December 29, 2022 11:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading speed Totally blind, and listening to computer speech of one form or another since age 10. I'm now 46. I am totally comfortable listening to Jaws or NVDA Eloquence at 70%, and iOS Voiceover with Alex at 75% on my iPhone. I know people who go quite a bit faster than that even. 73, Chris VE3RWJ on qrz.com Follow Me On Twitter -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook Sent: December 29, 2022 12:43 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading speed Thanks for the feedback. I was just curious. |
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Chris Shook
I keep mine slower than most. I think it's because I read using audio books growing up and I like mine to be as close to that speed as possible.
Monty have you been blind long? |
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Monte Single
As I wrote in an earlier message, I have nvda set toabout 180 words per
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minute. A lot of blind users would find this fairly slow. To me it is just a bit faster than regular conversations. -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook Sent: December 29, 2022 8:12 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA Chat reading speed Hi, I was just curious about something. Do all blind people keep their screen reader at high speeds, or is that just some of us? Chris |
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Brian's Mail list account
I myself do not have it really fast, but some do. Its very personal. I think it also depends on whether you are in work or not, and what content you are consuming. I could not ramp up speed of any voice when its reading important info or telling a story, but might go faster if its just navigation which you are mostly familiar with as you do it all the time. Are you talking nvda specific here?
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Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 2:12 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA Chat reading speed Hi, I was just curious about something. Do all blind people keep their screen reader at high speeds, or is that just some of us? Chris |
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Brian's Mail list account
Mine is set at 44, but even that is considered too fast by a person trying to understand what I'm actually doing. I use Espeak and Quincy variant and though its true it can and does go faster, it can add to stress levels past a certain point. I feel I'm being rushed.
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Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2022 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading speed As I wrote in an earlier message, I have nvda set toabout 180 words per minute. A lot of blind users would find this fairly slow. To me it is just a bit faster than regular conversations. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook Sent: December 29, 2022 8:12 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA Chat reading speed Hi, I was just curious about something. Do all blind people keep their screen reader at high speeds, or is that just some of us? Chris |
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Brian's Mail list account
Yes but its not a competition. Its just what one can comfortably use without stress, and everyone varies.
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I think one of my bug bears is when somebody does a demo of something that we may wish to put out to other blind listeners, if they would only slow the screenreader down first we would use it. We would not use it if it was at breakneck speed on Eloquence as nobody who is beginning would have any idea at all what was being said. As somebody said this is called Auctioneer speed, and helps very few people who are trying to learn. However too s l o w can also be very irritating. Brian -- bglists@... Sent via blueyonder.(Virgin media) Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <ve3rwj@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading speed Totally blind, and listening to computer speech of one form or another since age 10. I'm now 46. I am totally comfortable listening to Jaws or NVDA Eloquence at 70%, and iOS Voiceover with Alex at 75% on my iPhone. I know people who go quite a bit faster than that even. 73, Chris VE3RWJ on qrz.com Follow Me On Twitter -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook Sent: December 29, 2022 12:43 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading speed Thanks for the feedback. I was just curious. |
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Monte Single
I've been using a screen reader for about 12 years. I do not like it any faster than 180 words a minute.
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Same thing with talking books. I like the speed just a bit faster than regular conversations, and no I find eloquence to robotic. Yes, I know it remains understandable at higher speeds, it's just not my mug of ale. -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: December 29, 2022 8:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chat reading speed I wouldn't generalize beyond a point. While I would expect many blind users to use rapid speeds as they become experienced, I would imagine some people just like or want to use slower speeds even if they are experienced. Gene On 12/29/2022 8:12 AM, Chris Shook wrote: Hi, |
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Chris Shook
I know most people prefer the robitic voices, but I use Vocalizer expressive.
What is a good speed for that synthesizer. |
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Monte Single
I have been low vision all my life, you could tell by the ink spot on my
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nose. 10 years ago the retina in my eye with some vision detached and the reattachment did not work So I started doing it in the dark, everything. I had learnt braille in grade 5 and could touch type, so that wasn't bad. All o a sudden shopping became 1 of the most difficult things. Ho ho ho, and don't forget trying to find your way in several inches of fresh snow with a cane. It really is blindman's fog. OK , back on topic. -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook Sent: December 29, 2022 2:21 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading speed I keep mine slower than most. I think it's because I read using audio books growing up and I like mine to be as close to that speed as possible. Monty have you been blind long? |
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