On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 11:32 PM, Luke Davis wrote:

it has usually been "grave accent",

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I didn't even get into that, but that's the English rearrangement of the adjective (grave) to be before the noun.

I'm just glad to see that others have confirmed what I consider my central point, no matter how this thing might be announced by the screen reader, the documentation needs to make what it is clear by mentioning, at least once, its common names in the language that documentation is in. 
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It's been referred to as the back quote for as long as I have been in the computer business, at least in the USA.  It is unsurprising that back tick is used in countries where tick is common for single quotation mark.

I disagree that the word grave, and grave alone, is the best option in documentation.  Many synths will pronounce this as the burial plot is pronounced, and there are a great many users who have actually been taught back quote.

If grave is to be used, then at least the first time there should be something such as, "(also known as the back quote or back tick and most often located above the TAB key to the left side)," included.  I can guarantee you that you will get complete mental blanks from many if they hear "grave" whether pronounced like the burial plot or correctly as grawv (which I hope the synths say as I've spelled it phonetically).
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It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

It's been referred to as the back quote for as long as I have been in the computer business, at least in the USA.  It is unsurprising that back tick is used in countries where tick is common for single quotation mark.

I disagree that the word grave, and grave alone, is the best option in documentation.  Many synths will pronounce this as the burial plot is pronounced, and there are a great many users who have actually been taught back quote.

If grave is to be used, then at least the first time there should be something such as, "(also known as the back quote or back tick and most often located above the TAB key to the left side)," included.  I can guarantee you that you will get complete mental blanks from many if they hear "grave" whether pronounced like the burial plot or correctly as grawv (which I hope the synths say as I've spelled it phonetically).
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It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

I actually have when reading direction in a game and I had to hit the back quote key, took me a while to find it. Lol. This must just be a unified thing I never heard of until this year, or December 2022. Lol!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 11:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird+ addon now on gitHub

 

I've never seen information that it is called back quote.  I don't think that should be used when describing the key to avoid confusion.

Gene

On 1/24/2023 1:17 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Actually I know it as grave, and grov  accent. I never knew this as back quote until last year. And I mean December of last year. I always said “that thing to the left of the number 1. Or the tilde key.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 10:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird+ addon now on gitHub

 

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:31 PM, Pierre-Louis R. wrote:

What do you mean?
Grave accent grave or back quote?

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I don't understand the question.  In much of the English speaking world, those who have any knowledge of languages that use it know the character that is most often the lowercase character above the tab key on many keyboards as the accent grave (as opposed to accent acute).  Those that don't know it as the back quote (at least in the USA that's common).

There is no grave accent grave.  I presume that back tick might get used in some places like back quote does in the USA (at least among computer geeks).  I'll be curious to hear from those in other English-speaking countries about how this character is known if not known commonly as accent grave.

I'll be happy to try whatever you'd like me to after I'm clear about what's being sought here.  If you want the audio that NVDA gives me I'll be happy to record it when I hit the accent grave (or back quote) key.  My main point is that you should not specify keys based on relative location from another in documentation.  There are always keyboards where that is not accurate, while the key name for the character should be understood regardless of keyboard layout.
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I've never seen information that it is called back quote.  I don't think that should be used when describing the key to avoid confusion.

Gene

Actually I know it as grave, and grov  accent. I never knew this as back quote until last year. And I mean December of last year. I always said “that thing to the left of the number 1. Or the tilde key.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 10:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird+ addon now on gitHub

 

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:31 PM, Pierre-Louis R. wrote:

What do you mean?
Grave accent grave or back quote?

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I don't understand the question.  In much of the English speaking world, those who have any knowledge of languages that use it know the character that is most often the lowercase character above the tab key on many keyboards as the accent grave (as opposed to accent acute).  Those that don't know it as the back quote (at least in the USA that's common).

There is no grave accent grave.  I presume that back tick might get used in some places like back quote does in the USA (at least among computer geeks).  I'll be curious to hear from those in other English-speaking countries about how this character is known if not known commonly as accent grave.

I'll be happy to try whatever you'd like me to after I'm clear about what's being sought here.  If you want the audio that NVDA gives me I'll be happy to record it when I hit the accent grave (or back quote) key.  My main point is that you should not specify keys based on relative location from another in documentation.  There are always keyboards where that is not accurate, while the key name for the character should be understood regardless of keyboard layout.
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It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

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When I have key echo enabled and I press the key, NVDA just says grave.  This is using an American voice and an American keyboard.  I would think that, to eliminate comfusion in the English documentation and to make it consistent with what NVDA says, just the word grave or the phrase grave key should be used, perhaps grave key for the first use and grave thereafter.

Gene

On 1/24/2023 12:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:31 PM, Pierre-Louis R. wrote:

What do you mean?
Grave accent grave or back quote?

-
I don't understand the question.  In much of the English speaking world, those who have any knowledge of languages that use it know the character that is most often the lowercase character above the tab key on many keyboards as the accent grave (as opposed to accent acute).  Those that don't know it as the back quote (at least in the USA that's common).

There is no grave accent grave.  I presume that back tick might get used in some places like back quote does in the USA (at least among computer geeks).  I'll be curious to hear from those in other English-speaking countries about how this character is known if not known commonly as accent grave.

I'll be happy to try whatever you'd like me to after I'm clear about what's being sought here.  If you want the audio that NVDA gives me I'll be happy to record it when I hit the accent grave (or back quote) key.  My main point is that you should not specify keys based on relative location from another in documentation.  There are always keyboards where that is not accurate, while the key name for the character should be understood regardless of keyboard layout.
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Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

Actually I know it as grave, and grov  accent. I never knew this as back quote until last year. And I mean December of last year. I always said “that thing to the left of the number 1. Or the tilde key.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 10:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird+ addon now on gitHub

 

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:31 PM, Pierre-Louis R. wrote:

What do you mean?
Grave accent grave or back quote?

-
I don't understand the question.  In much of the English speaking world, those who have any knowledge of languages that use it know the character that is most often the lowercase character above the tab key on many keyboards as the accent grave (as opposed to accent acute).  Those that don't know it as the back quote (at least in the USA that's common).

There is no grave accent grave.  I presume that back tick might get used in some places like back quote does in the USA (at least among computer geeks).  I'll be curious to hear from those in other English-speaking countries about how this character is known if not known commonly as accent grave.

I'll be happy to try whatever you'd like me to after I'm clear about what's being sought here.  If you want the audio that NVDA gives me I'll be happy to record it when I hit the accent grave (or back quote) key.  My main point is that you should not specify keys based on relative location from another in documentation.  There are always keyboards where that is not accurate, while the key name for the character should be understood regardless of keyboard layout.
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It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

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On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:31 PM, Pierre-Louis R. wrote:

What do you mean?
Grave accent grave or back quote?

-
I don't understand the question.  In much of the English speaking world, those who have any knowledge of languages that use it know the character that is most often the lowercase character above the tab key on many keyboards as the accent grave (as opposed to accent acute).  Those that don't know it as the back quote (at least in the USA that's common).

There is no grave accent grave.  I presume that back tick might get used in some places like back quote does in the USA (at least among computer geeks).  I'll be curious to hear from those in other English-speaking countries about how this character is known if not known commonly as accent grave.

I'll be happy to try whatever you'd like me to after I'm clear about what's being sought here.  If you want the audio that NVDA gives me I'll be happy to record it when I hit the accent grave (or back quote) key.  My main point is that you should not specify keys based on relative location from another in documentation.  There are always keyboards where that is not accurate, while the key name for the character should be understood regardless of keyboard layout.
--

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It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:31 PM, Pierre-Louis R. wrote:

What do you mean?
Grave accent grave or back quote?

-
I don't understand the question.  In much of the English speaking world, those who have any knowledge of languages that use it know the character that is most often the lowercase character above the tab key on many keyboards as the accent grave (as opposed to accent acute).  Those that don't know it as the back quote (at least in the USA that's common).

There is no grave accent grave.  I presume that back tick might get used in some places like back quote does in the USA (at least among computer geeks).  I'll be curious to hear from those in other English-speaking countries about how this character is known if not known commonly as accent grave.

I'll be happy to try whatever you'd like me to after I'm clear about what's being sought here.  If you want the audio that NVDA gives me I'll be happy to record it when I hit the accent grave (or back quote) key.  My main point is that you should not specify keys based on relative location from another in documentation.  There are always keyboards where that is not accurate, while the key name for the character should be understood regardless of keyboard layout.
--

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It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

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On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:56 AM, Pierre-Louis R. wrote:

Key-above-Tab : shows the main menu of the Thunderbird+ add-on ;

shift+Key-above-Tab  : shows the Option menu of the Thunderbird+ add-on ;
Control+Alt+Key-above-tab or AltGr+Key-above-tab : starts Thunderbird. Note that gesture is reconfigurable via NVDA Menu / Settings / Input Gestures  and in the category named : Thunderbird+4, launcher and update. The actual key labels appear in this dialog ,

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Personally, I would not do this, as locations are not 100% consistent across keyboards.

I would use accent grave\back quote.

accent grave\back quote: shows the main menu of the Thunderbird+ add-on
Shift + accent grave\back quote: shows the Option menu of the Thunderbird+ add-on
Contro l+ Alt + accent grave\back quote or AltGr + accent grave\back quote : starts Thunderbird. Note that gesture is reconfigurable via NVDA Menu / Settings / Input Gestures  and in the category named : Thunderbird+4, launcher and update. The actual key labels appear in this dialog.

I figure that should cover it, as if someone doesn't know what the accent grave is they should recognize the term back quote, or vice versa.
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It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

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Thanks Brian. Google translate sure has come a long way since 15 years ago. The grave does seem to do what the accent key is supposed to do as it opens the Commands context menu, and tilde opens the menu associated with shift+accent. If you actually want to type those symbols in a message you would type it in notepad and copy and paste. No big deal since I don't think I've ever included those characters in an email until today lol.

Shawn Klein

On 1/23/2023 1:08 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 01:58 PM, Shawn wrote:

puissance

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Shawn,

It's noted that the documentation in English is Google Translated from French.  Done as a standalone word the above noted word gets translated as powerful or power depending on context.

AltGr is a key common on many keyboards used outside the USA.  It generally replaces the duplicate plain ALT key that resides on the right side of the spacebar.  According to the wikipedia page on Alt Gr, those of us who don't have one can use CTRL + ALT in its place.  I can't be sure whether Accent is being used to refer to the accent grave key (which as you note is generally to the left of the number one on the number row) or accent acute, which a US keyboard doesn't have as a native hard key.
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On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 01:58 PM, Shawn wrote:

puissance

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Shawn,

It's noted that the documentation in English is Google Translated from French.  Done as a standalone word the above noted word gets translated as powerful or power depending on context.

AltGr is a key common on many keyboards used outside the USA.  It generally replaces the duplicate plain ALT key that resides on the right side of the spacebar.  According to the wikipedia page on Alt Gr, those of us who don't have one can use CTRL + ALT in its place.  I can't be sure whether Accent is being used to refer to the accent grave key (which as you note is generally to the left of the number one on the number row) or accent acute, which a US keyboard doesn't have as a native hard key.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881S

Hi José and All,

I had a lot of work to adapt the addon to gitHub which is a new world for me. Now it's done, ThunderbirdPlus is now on my gitHub repository.
Building the .nvda-addon file works with the scons command.

Here are the links:

Download Release  :
https://github.com/RPTools-org/ThunderbirdPlus/releases/download/v4.4/ThunderbirdPlus-v4.4-TB102.nvda-addon


gitHub Repos :
https://github.com/RPTools-org/ThunderbirdPlus/

Regards,

Pierre-Louis R.

Le 10-01-23 à 17:46, José Manuel Delicado Alcolea via groups.io a écrit :

Hi Pierre,

First of all, congratulations for this great add-on. Thank you very much for localizing it in another languages. I have a few questions:

- We would like to review and register it in our add-ons directory, nvda-addons.org. Do you have a GitHub repo, or at least an https link for downloading this add-on? Without https, some browsers may block the download from external websites.

- I have seen two comparisons with Mozilla Apps Enhancements in your introduction. Have you considered collaborating with Javi, instead of creating another independent add-on for the same application? I understand that language is a significant barrier, but I'm sure there are many people willing to help.

Regards.

El 10/01/2023 a las 9:37, Pierre-Louis R. escribió:

Hello,


I would like to introduce you to my addon "Thunderbird+" which exists in French for several years but which has only recently been localized in English.

So, sorry for my English,  my native language is French.

Thunderbird+ improves the accessibility, efficiency and convenience of using Thunderbird with NVDA.
You probably know the "Mozilla Apps Enhancements" addon: this one  offers many more features for Thunderbird :

• Hearing comfort:
◦ Alerts "so-and-so has asked to be notified when you read this message." can be disabled by an option;
◦ "This is a draft" alert are ignored and "Thunderbird thinks this message is fraudulent" alerts are replaced by a sound ;
◦ Options make it possible to deactivate the announcement of the names of mailing lists, to delete or group the mentions "RE" and to purify the names of the correspondents by deleting the numbers and other awkward special characters;
• Improved navigation. :
◦ Moving to the next panel is done using the TAB key while the escape key allows you to return to the previous panel. This is more comfortable than F6 and Shift+F6.
◦ Two dialog accounts and their associated folders allows to filter them by keyword or to display only folders with unread messages;
◦ In the folder tree, alt+down arrow and Alt+up arrow allow you to navigate between folders with unread messages;
◦ Still in the folder tree, typing a letter or a number selects the next folder whose name begins with the character typed. With the Shift key, the movement is from bottom to top. Additionally, the name of the account the folder belongs to is announced;
◦ The Space bar on a folder with unread messages selects the first unread message in the list;
◦ In the message list, three modes for Reading the text of messages without leaving the list:
▪ Clean quick preview of message text with space, Alt+down arrow or F4: large block headers in message quotes are replaced with the phrase "Sender's name wrote". NVDA will also announce "clickable link" instead of the long link address.
▪ quick preview of quotes in their chronological order, from bottom to top, via Shift+Space, Alt+up arrow or Shift+F4;
◦ Easy access to attachments using the shortcut Alt+PageDown or the number 1 on the alpha-numeric keyboard;
• Window for writing a message:
◦ Expanded Headers reading : Alt+1 announces the Sender, Alt+2 the recipient, Alt+3 attachments, etc. Two presses places the focus on one of these fields;
◦ In the spell check dialog:
▪ the misspelled word is announced before the suggested word. NVDA+Tab or Alt+up arrow shortcuts announce misspelled and replacement words: 1 press spells the words at normal speed, 2 presses spells them fast, 3 presses copies the misspelled word to the clipboard for analysis in another edit field;
▪ various combinations of the enter key operate the Replace, Replace All, Ignore buttons,Ignore all or Add word to dictionary have been added to make this dialog more comfortable;
• Quick filter bar made accessible and tag management simplified. :
◦ It is possible to navigate among Filter options using the vertical arrows. The Enter key allows you to check or uncheck an option;
◦ adding or removing labels is done by simply pressing Shift+a number on the alphanumeric keyboard. For example, press 4 to add the label "To do" to a message. You can then filter the list of messages by tags via the quick filter bar which is now accessible;
• Miscellaneous Features:
◦ The choice of columns as well as their layout in the list of messages is made accessible through a simple dialog;
◦ Reading of the columns of the list of messages: allows you to listen again, spell or easily copy the name of the sender, the subject or the date of a message by pressing a number on the alphanumeric keyboard: for example, 1 or & announces the sender, 2 presses spells the name and 3 presses copies it to the clipboard;
◦ Consultation of the headers of the headers pane displayed with F8: with Alt+a number, 1 press speaks a header containing the addresses of the sender or the recipients, 2 presses opens a dialog allowing them to be copied, 3 presses opens the context menu native Thunderbird associated with the header;
• Automatic add-on update;
• And many other things that you will discover by reading complete documentation;


Download and install
If the "Mozilla Apps Enhancements by Javie Dominguez" add-on is installed on your computer, you must first disable it before installing Thunderbird+:

Download Thunderbird+ v4.3.3 for Thunderbird 102 only;
Complet documentation on the web ;
It is also available by pressing control+f1 in the Thunderbird's window.

Additonnaly,  a friend is working on a nnative  Thunderbird addon which offers a very fast  list of folders with unread messages. To use it, Visit the Chichi'sPage
Note : Thunderbird+ and Chichi can work together.

Sincerely, good use,

Pierre-Louis, GMT+1
 

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Hi José and All,

I had a lot of work to adapt the addon to gitHub which is a new world for me. Now it's done, ThunderbirdPlus is now on my gitHub repository.
Building the .nvda-addon file works with the scons command.

Here are the links:

Download Release  :
https://github.com/RPTools-org/ThunderbirdPlus/releases/download/v4.4/ThunderbirdPlus-v4.4-TB102.nvda-addon


gitHub Repos :
https://github.com/RPTools-org/ThunderbirdPlus/

Regards,

Pierre-Louis R.

Le 10-01-23 à 17:46, José Manuel Delicado Alcolea via groups.io a écrit :

Hi Pierre,

First of all, congratulations for this great add-on. Thank you very much for localizing it in another languages. I have a few questions:

- We would like to review and register it in our add-ons directory, nvda-addons.org. Do you have a GitHub repo, or at least an https link for downloading this add-on? Without https, some browsers may block the download from external websites.

- I have seen two comparisons with Mozilla Apps Enhancements in your introduction. Have you considered collaborating with Javi, instead of creating another independent add-on for the same application? I understand that language is a significant barrier, but I'm sure there are many people willing to help.

Regards.

El 10/01/2023 a las 9:37, Pierre-Louis R. escribió:

Hello,


I would like to introduce you to my addon "Thunderbird+" which exists in French for several years but which has only recently been localized in English.

So, sorry for my English,  my native language is French.

Thunderbird+ improves the accessibility, efficiency and convenience of using Thunderbird with NVDA.
You probably know the "Mozilla Apps Enhancements" addon: this one  offers many more features for Thunderbird :

• Hearing comfort:
◦ Alerts "so-and-so has asked to be notified when you read this message." can be disabled by an option;
◦ "This is a draft" alert are ignored and "Thunderbird thinks this message is fraudulent" alerts are replaced by a sound ;
◦ Options make it possible to deactivate the announcement of the names of mailing lists, to delete or group the mentions "RE" and to purify the names of the correspondents by deleting the numbers and other awkward special characters;
• Improved navigation. :
◦ Moving to the next panel is done using the TAB key while the escape key allows you to return to the previous panel. This is more comfortable than F6 and Shift+F6.
◦ Two dialog accounts and their associated folders allows to filter them by keyword or to display only folders with unread messages;
◦ In the folder tree, alt+down arrow and Alt+up arrow allow you to navigate between folders with unread messages;
◦ Still in the folder tree, typing a letter or a number selects the next folder whose name begins with the character typed. With the Shift key, the movement is from bottom to top. Additionally, the name of the account the folder belongs to is announced;
◦ The Space bar on a folder with unread messages selects the first unread message in the list;
◦ In the message list, three modes for Reading the text of messages without leaving the list:
▪ Clean quick preview of message text with space, Alt+down arrow or F4: large block headers in message quotes are replaced with the phrase "Sender's name wrote". NVDA will also announce "clickable link" instead of the long link address.
▪ quick preview of quotes in their chronological order, from bottom to top, via Shift+Space, Alt+up arrow or Shift+F4;
◦ Easy access to attachments using the shortcut Alt+PageDown or the number 1 on the alpha-numeric keyboard;
• Window for writing a message:
◦ Expanded Headers reading : Alt+1 announces the Sender, Alt+2 the recipient, Alt+3 attachments, etc. Two presses places the focus on one of these fields;
◦ In the spell check dialog:
▪ the misspelled word is announced before the suggested word. NVDA+Tab or Alt+up arrow shortcuts announce misspelled and replacement words: 1 press spells the words at normal speed, 2 presses spells them fast, 3 presses copies the misspelled word to the clipboard for analysis in another edit field;
▪ various combinations of the enter key operate the Replace, Replace All, Ignore buttons,Ignore all or Add word to dictionary have been added to make this dialog more comfortable;
• Quick filter bar made accessible and tag management simplified. :
◦ It is possible to navigate among Filter options using the vertical arrows. The Enter key allows you to check or uncheck an option;
◦ adding or removing labels is done by simply pressing Shift+a number on the alphanumeric keyboard. For example, press 4 to add the label "To do" to a message. You can then filter the list of messages by tags via the quick filter bar which is now accessible;
• Miscellaneous Features:
◦ The choice of columns as well as their layout in the list of messages is made accessible through a simple dialog;
◦ Reading of the columns of the list of messages: allows you to listen again, spell or easily copy the name of the sender, the subject or the date of a message by pressing a number on the alphanumeric keyboard: for example, 1 or & announces the sender, 2 presses spells the name and 3 presses copies it to the clipboard;
◦ Consultation of the headers of the headers pane displayed with F8: with Alt+a number, 1 press speaks a header containing the addresses of the sender or the recipients, 2 presses opens a dialog allowing them to be copied, 3 presses opens the context menu native Thunderbird associated with the header;
• Automatic add-on update;
• And many other things that you will discover by reading complete documentation;


Download and install
If the "Mozilla Apps Enhancements by Javie Dominguez" add-on is installed on your computer, you must first disable it before installing Thunderbird+:

Download Thunderbird+ v4.3.3 for Thunderbird 102 only;
Complet documentation on the web ;
It is also available by pressing control+f1 in the Thunderbird's window.

Additonnaly,  a friend is working on a nnative  Thunderbird addon which offers a very fast  list of folders with unread messages. To use it, Visit the Chichi'sPage
Note : Thunderbird+ and Chichi can work together.

Sincerely, good use,

Pierre-Louis, GMT+1
 

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