Hey Brian and Gene,

Point well taken about bringing up the quick help and user guide, I did so and found the rate keys, and will be looking into how to make those adjustments.

I had posted originally, hoping maybe there was a comparison chart of commands, then I asked this specific question about rate and skipping links, but should have researched deeper myself before bothering you all.

As to the skipping past links, I had it in my head it was Jaws page down, because I have a feeble mind.

It is actually Jaws enter.

If you go to

News.google.com

Hit h for first heading.

With Jaws, you can hit jaws enter and it will skip past those first links.

I use this all the time when on web pages, so I assumed there was an equivalent command for NVDA.

I did look at the quick guide this time before posting this email, but I didn’t see a command for this.

Thanks for the help you guys.

Ché

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 12:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving from Jaws to NVDA: A list of differences in commands

 

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 01:24 PM, Che Martin wrote:

The other is how to slow down and speed up speech on the fly, such as one does with jaws with control alt page up and down.

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Ché, 

You're about to get one of my generic "lectures" followed by a bit of specific guidance.

Generic Lecture:

Every NVDA user needs to know how to do two basic things when almost any question arises.  The one you want really depends on the exact nature of the question:

1.        Bring up the NVDA Commands Quick Reference:  NVDA + N, H, Q  [NVDA Menu, Help, Commands Quick Reference]

2.      Bring up the NVDA User Guide:  NVDA + N, H, U   [NVDA Menu, Help, User Guide]

After either one opens in your default web browser, search on a key term or terms and you'll find what you're looking for very quickly.

Specific Guidance:
I used the term "rate" in my search of the NVDA Commands Quick Reference.  I landed straight in the first entry of the table for the Synth Settings Ring.  "Speech" wouldn't have been a terrible option, either, but I knew it would have more results, and more that weren't pertinent to your question. Do exactly as I did, and have a look at the four entries in the Synth Settings Ring table.  NVDA allows some pretty fine control over a number of things via the Synth Settings Ring.  There is also an NVDA Add-On, Synth Ring Settings Selector, that allows you to customize exactly what gets presented in the Synth Settings Ring if you know that you really don't use some of "the regulars" at all, or at all regularly.  You can always make them present again if the occasion requires it.
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It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 01:24 PM, Che Martin wrote:

The other is how to slow down and speed up speech on the fly, such as one does with jaws with control alt page up and down.

-
Ché, 

You're about to get one of my generic "lectures" followed by a bit of specific guidance.

Generic Lecture:

Every NVDA user needs to know how to do two basic things when almost any question arises.  The one you want really depends on the exact nature of the question:

1.        Bring up the NVDA Commands Quick Reference:  NVDA + N, H, Q  [NVDA Menu, Help, Commands Quick Reference]

2.      Bring up the NVDA User Guide:  NVDA + N, H, U   [NVDA Menu, Help, User Guide]

After either one opens in your default web browser, search on a key term or terms and you'll find what you're looking for very quickly.

Specific Guidance:
I used the term "rate" in my search of the NVDA Commands Quick Reference.  I landed straight in the first entry of the table for the Synth Settings Ring.  "Speech" wouldn't have been a terrible option, either, but I knew it would have more results, and more that weren't pertinent to your question. Do exactly as I did, and have a look at the four entries in the Synth Settings Ring table.  NVDA allows some pretty fine control over a number of things via the Synth Settings Ring.  There is also an NVDA Add-On, Synth Ring Settings Selector, that allows you to customize exactly what gets presented in the Synth Settings Ring if you know that you really don't use some of "the regulars" at all, or at all regularly.  You can always make them present again if the occasion requires it.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

Right, my bad, I should have stated that as jaws and page down, not numpad3.

At any rate, I think if I can get two commands , I’ll be pretty good on the transition.

One is how to skip links, not the n key thing, but like when ther are mnultiple links together.

The other is how to slow down and speed up speech on the fly, such as one does with jaws with control alt page up and down.

Thanks much

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving from Jaws to NVDA: A list of differences in commands

 

I am not aware of any such list.  I haven't looked at it for a long time, but there is an article for those transitioning from JAWS to NVDA that discusses ways of doing some things. 

When it comes to browse mode, commands between JAWS and NVDA are very similar.  If you are asking how to skip blocks of links such as navigation links at the tops of pages, the command is the same, just the letter n.  Almost all quick navigation commands are the same.

In the following discussion, all commands for both screen-readers refer to the desktop layouts.

The command you reference is not a skip blocks of links command in JAWS.  JAWS key numpad 3 issues the same command as JAWS key page down on the main keyboard.  Numpad 3 is the same command as the page down command on the main keyboard and JAWS key numpad 3, with either page down key, is the same command. 

Since NVDA uses the numpad for its own purposes, some commands remain the same in NVDA but you use the main keyboard.  In JAWS, for example, read to end is usually invoked with JAWS key numpad 2.  But it can also be invoked with JAWS key down arrow on the main keyboard.  When using JAWS, numpad 2 is the same command as down arrow
In NVDA, it is NVDA key down arrow on the main keyboard.

In JAWS, read current line is usually done with JAWS key numpad 8.  Numpad 8 is the same command as up arrow on the main keyboard.  You could use JAWS key up arrow on the main keyboard.
In NVDA, read current line is NVDA key up arrow on the main keyboard, the same command but not using the numpad.

I think you will find using the quick keys reference will serve you well when you want to know a command. 

Gene

On 2/2/2023 10:34 AM, Che Martin wrote:

Hi all,

Is there a post or web page that anyone knows of that lists how to do things in NVDA that one does with Jaws with a different command?

Specifically right now, I am wanting to know how to skip links on a web page.

 In jaws, one types Jaws key plus numPad 3 to do this.

If there was a table of command differences out there somewhere, that would be great.

I looked on Google, but not finding a comparison table like this.

Thanks for any help.

Ché

 

 

I am not aware of any such list.  I haven't looked at it for a long time, but there is an article for those transitioning from JAWS to NVDA that discusses ways of doing some things. 

When it comes to browse mode, commands between JAWS and NVDA are very similar.  If you are asking how to skip blocks of links such as navigation links at the tops of pages, the command is the same, just the letter n.  Almost all quick navigation commands are the same.

In the following discussion, all commands for both screen-readers refer to the desktop layouts.

The command you reference is not a skip blocks of links command in JAWS.  JAWS key numpad 3 issues the same command as JAWS key page down on the main keyboard.  Numpad 3 is the same command as the page down command on the main keyboard and JAWS key numpad 3, with either page down key, is the same command. 

Since NVDA uses the numpad for its own purposes, some commands remain the same in NVDA but you use the main keyboard.  In JAWS, for example, read to end is usually invoked with JAWS key numpad 2.  But it can also be invoked with JAWS key down arrow on the main keyboard.  When using JAWS, numpad 2 is the same command as down arrow
In NVDA, it is NVDA key down arrow on the main keyboard.

In JAWS, read current line is usually done with JAWS key numpad 8.  Numpad 8 is the same command as up arrow on the main keyboard.  You could use JAWS key up arrow on the main keyboard.
In NVDA, read current line is NVDA key up arrow on the main keyboard, the same command but not using the numpad.

I think you will find using the quick keys reference will serve you well when you want to know a command. 

Gene

Hi all,

Is there a post or web page that anyone knows of that lists how to do things in NVDA that one does with Jaws with a different command?

Specifically right now, I am wanting to know how to skip links on a web page.

 In jaws, one types Jaws key plus numPad 3 to do this.

If there was a table of command differences out there somewhere, that would be great.

I looked on Google, but not finding a comparison table like this.

Thanks for any help.

Ché

 

Hi all,

Is there a post or web page that anyone knows of that lists how to do things in NVDA that one does with Jaws with a different command?

Specifically right now, I am wanting to know how to skip links on a web page.

 In jaws, one types Jaws key plus numPad 3 to do this.

If there was a table of command differences out there somewhere, that would be great.

I looked on Google, but not finding a comparison table like this.

Thanks for any help.

Ché