Hey Brian and Gene,

Point well taken about bringing up the quick help and user guide, I did so and found the rate keys, and will be looking into how to make those adjustments.

I had posted originally, hoping maybe there was a comparison chart of commands, then I asked this specific question about rate and skipping links, but should have researched deeper myself before bothering you all.

As to the skipping past links, I had it in my head it was Jaws page down, because I have a feeble mind.

It is actually Jaws enter.

If you go to

News.google.com

Hit h for first heading.

With Jaws, you can hit jaws enter and it will skip past those first links.

I use this all the time when on web pages, so I assumed there was an equivalent command for NVDA.

I did look at the quick guide this time before posting this email, but I didn’t see a command for this.

Thanks for the help you guys.

Ché

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 01:24 PM, Che Martin wrote:

The other is how to slow down and speed up speech on the fly, such as one does with jaws with control alt page up and down.

-
Ché, 

You're about to get one of my generic "lectures" followed by a bit of specific guidance.

Generic Lecture:

Every NVDA user needs to know how to do two basic things when almost any question arises.  The one you want really depends on the exact nature of the question:

1.        Bring up the NVDA Commands Quick Reference:  NVDA + N, H, Q  [NVDA Menu, Help, Commands Quick Reference]

2.      Bring up the NVDA User Guide:  NVDA + N, H, U   [NVDA Menu, Help, User Guide]

After either one opens in your default web browser, search on a key term or terms and you'll find what you're looking for very quickly.

Specific Guidance:
I used the term "rate" in my search of the NVDA Commands Quick Reference.  I landed straight in the first entry of the table for the Synth Settings Ring.  "Speech" wouldn't have been a terrible option, either, but I knew it would have more results, and more that weren't pertinent to your question. Do exactly as I did, and have a look at the four entries in the Synth Settings Ring table.  NVDA allows some pretty fine control over a number of things via the Synth Settings Ring.  There is also an NVDA Add-On, Synth Ring Settings Selector, that allows you to customize exactly what gets presented in the Synth Settings Ring if you know that you really don't use some of "the regulars" at all, or at all regularly.  You can always make them present again if the occasion requires it.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

Ok, so after investigating the synth settings ring, I like the way NVDA handles these settings over jaws.

I have my synth going pretty fast, but I want to be able to switch to a slower rate when reading articles etc. when I really need to absorb what is being written.

So I know there are many ways to skin various cats when it comes to making your screen reader work for you, but in this case it seems the most efficient thing to do is leave the speech settings on boost mode, then simply NVDA control up and down to turn it on and off.

Is this the way most folks do this with NVDA, or an I missing something obvious?

If the answer is shut up, and just find what works for you, fair enough, I totally get that, just want to make sure this isn’t a case of not knowing what I don’t know.

Thanks again,

Ché

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Che Martin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 1:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving from Jaws to NVDA: A list of differences in commands

 

Hey Brian and Gene,

Point well taken about bringing up the quick help and user guide, I did so and found the rate keys, and will be looking into how to make those adjustments.

I had posted originally, hoping maybe there was a comparison chart of commands, then I asked this specific question about rate and skipping links, but should have researched deeper myself before bothering you all.

As to the skipping past links, I had it in my head it was Jaws page down, because I have a feeble mind.

It is actually Jaws enter.

If you go to

News.google.com

Hit h for first heading.

With Jaws, you can hit jaws enter and it will skip past those first links.

I use this all the time when on web pages, so I assumed there was an equivalent command for NVDA.

I did look at the quick guide this time before posting this email, but I didn’t see a command for this.

Thanks for the help you guys.

Ché

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 12:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving from Jaws to NVDA: A list of differences in commands

 

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 01:24 PM, Che Martin wrote:

The other is how to slow down and speed up speech on the fly, such as one does with jaws with control alt page up and down.

-
Ché, 

You're about to get one of my generic "lectures" followed by a bit of specific guidance.

Generic Lecture:

Every NVDA user needs to know how to do two basic things when almost any question arises.  The one you want really depends on the exact nature of the question:

1.        Bring up the NVDA Commands Quick Reference:  NVDA + N, H, Q  [NVDA Menu, Help, Commands Quick Reference]

2.      Bring up the NVDA User Guide:  NVDA + N, H, U   [NVDA Menu, Help, User Guide]

After either one opens in your default web browser, search on a key term or terms and you'll find what you're looking for very quickly.

Specific Guidance:
I used the term "rate" in my search of the NVDA Commands Quick Reference.  I landed straight in the first entry of the table for the Synth Settings Ring.  "Speech" wouldn't have been a terrible option, either, but I knew it would have more results, and more that weren't pertinent to your question. Do exactly as I did, and have a look at the four entries in the Synth Settings Ring table.  NVDA allows some pretty fine control over a number of things via the Synth Settings Ring.  There is also an NVDA Add-On, Synth Ring Settings Selector, that allows you to customize exactly what gets presented in the Synth Settings Ring if you know that you really don't use some of "the regulars" at all, or at all regularly.  You can always make them present again if the occasion requires it.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

Ok, so after investigating the synth settings ring, I like the way NVDA handles these settings over jaws.

I have my synth going pretty fast, but I want to be able to switch to a slower rate when reading articles etc. when I really need to absorb what is being written.

So I know there are many ways to skin various cats when it comes to making your screen reader work for you, but in this case it seems the most efficient thing to do is leave the speech settings on boost mode, then simply NVDA control up and down to turn it on and off.

Is this the way most folks do this with NVDA, or an I missing something obvious?

If the answer is shut up, and just find what works for you, fair enough, I totally get that, just want to make sure this isn’t a case of not knowing what I don’t know.

Thanks again,

Ché

Hey Brian and Gene,

Point well taken about bringing up the quick help and user guide, I did so and found the rate keys, and will be looking into how to make those adjustments.

I had posted originally, hoping maybe there was a comparison chart of commands, then I asked this specific question about rate and skipping links, but should have researched deeper myself before bothering you all.

As to the skipping past links, I had it in my head it was Jaws page down, because I have a feeble mind.

It is actually Jaws enter.

If you go to

News.google.com

Hit h for first heading.

With Jaws, you can hit jaws enter and it will skip past those first links.

I use this all the time when on web pages, so I assumed there was an equivalent command for NVDA.

I did look at the quick guide this time before posting this email, but I didn’t see a command for this.

Thanks for the help you guys.

Ché

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 01:24 PM, Che Martin wrote:

The other is how to slow down and speed up speech on the fly, such as one does with jaws with control alt page up and down.

-
Ché, 

You're about to get one of my generic "lectures" followed by a bit of specific guidance.

Generic Lecture:

Every NVDA user needs to know how to do two basic things when almost any question arises.  The one you want really depends on the exact nature of the question:

1.        Bring up the NVDA Commands Quick Reference:  NVDA + N, H, Q  [NVDA Menu, Help, Commands Quick Reference]

2.      Bring up the NVDA User Guide:  NVDA + N, H, U   [NVDA Menu, Help, User Guide]

After either one opens in your default web browser, search on a key term or terms and you'll find what you're looking for very quickly.

Specific Guidance:
I used the term "rate" in my search of the NVDA Commands Quick Reference.  I landed straight in the first entry of the table for the Synth Settings Ring.  "Speech" wouldn't have been a terrible option, either, but I knew it would have more results, and more that weren't pertinent to your question. Do exactly as I did, and have a look at the four entries in the Synth Settings Ring table.  NVDA allows some pretty fine control over a number of things via the Synth Settings Ring.  There is also an NVDA Add-On, Synth Ring Settings Selector, that allows you to customize exactly what gets presented in the Synth Settings Ring if you know that you really don't use some of "the regulars" at all, or at all regularly.  You can always make them present again if the occasion requires it.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 11 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 22H2, Build 22621; Office 2016, Version 16.0.15726.20188, 32-bit

It is much easier to be critical than to be correct.

       ~ Benjamin Disraeli, 1804-1881

On Feb 2, Che Martin wrote:

So I know there are many ways to skin various cats when it comes to making your screen reader work for you, but in this case it seems the most efficient
thing to do is leave the speech settings on boost mode, then simply NVDA control up and down to turn it on and off.
Is this the way most folks do this with NVDA, or an I missing something obvious?

Given that boosted speech is so very much faster than non-boosted speech, I, at least, don't do this. I.e.: While rate 80 normal might be slow to my mind, boosted rate 80 is utterly incomprehensible to me.

What I personally do, is leave boost on, and for your slow case, I lower the rate to five or so. For high-speed reading, I punch it up to 15 or 20. Both changes using the speech settings ring, of course.

I don't have to change frequently enough to worry about using profiles for it as others have suggested, but if you do, that's one way to go. For me, it's usually only a change of two-three speed increments/decrements at the most, so just using the ring isn't bothersome.

But as you guessed, you're going to have to figure out what works for you. All we can do is give you "what works for us", and hopefully you can pick something(s) useful out of the pile.

Luke

So I know there are many ways to skin various cats when it comes to
making your screen reader work for you, but in this case it seems the most

Is this the way most folks do this with NVDA, or an I missing something