a settings question


mcLeod stinnett
 

under preferances, settings, review cursor. i have follow system focus checked, and the 2 boxes after that unchecked. for best results should all of the boxes in that category be checked? thanks.
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Lukasz Golonka
 

On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 01:00:47 -0700
"mcLeod stinnett" <macks75205@...> wrote:

under preferances, settings, review cursor. i have follow system focus checked, and the 2 boxes after that unchecked. for best results should all of the boxes in that category be checked?
Assuming that by "2 boxes after that" you mean "Follow System Caret" and
"Follow mouse cursor" there is no single good answer.
The best way to determine how these options should be set for your use
cases would be to read their description in the user guide. I personally
prefer to work with all options in the review settings panel except
"Simple review mode" unchecked, but that is of course pretty subjective,
and requires moving review cursor manually to the focus position rather
than this being done automatically.


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Regards
Lukasz


Quentin Christensen
 

As Lukasz said,

The best suggestion is to be aware of what the options do and how the review cursor works, and then you will work out the best set of options for you.

Here is the User Guide section on navigating, which includes the review cursor: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#NavigatingWithNVDA


Now, if you aren't familiar with the review cursor, or how it works, I would strongly suggest that the Basic Training for NVDA guide, although not free, is worth it for the sections on the Review Cursor and Object Navigation alone: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-ebook/

Basically though, those three options will set whether the review cursor follows:

System Focus: This includes things like the current ribbon option when navigating the ribbon in Word or File Manager, the current menu item in the start menu, the button or checkbox on a web page, the options in the NVDA settings dialog etc. 

System Caret: The text cursor anytime you are somewhere editing text such as an email, Word document or web form.  (In this way, you can think of the System Focus as whatever NVDA is currently on any time you are NOT in an edit field).

Mouse cursor: This will follow the mouse around - this is mostly useful (but possibly very much so) if you have some sight and use the mouse.

Quentin.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 6:12 PM Lukasz Golonka via groups.io <lukasz.golonka=mailbox.org@groups.io> wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 01:00:47 -0700
"mcLeod stinnett" <macks75205@...> wrote:

> under preferances, settings, review cursor. i have follow system focus checked, and the 2 boxes after that unchecked. for best results should all of the boxes in that category be checked?

Assuming that by "2 boxes after that" you mean "Follow System Caret" and
"Follow mouse cursor" there is no single good answer.
The best way to determine how these options should be set for your use
cases would be to read their description in the user guide. I personally
prefer to work with all options in the review settings panel except
"Simple review mode" unchecked, but that is of course pretty subjective,
and requires moving review cursor manually to the focus position rather
than this being done automatically.


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Regards
Lukasz







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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Jacob Kruger
 

Explanation of those settings, from documentation:

12.1.11. Review Cursor
The Review Cursor category in the NVDA Settings dialog is used to configure NVDA's review cursor behaviour. This category contains the following options:
Follow System Focus
Key: NVDA+7
When enabled, The review cursor will always be placed in the same object as the current system focus whenever the focus changes.


Follow System Caret
Key: NVDA+6
When enabled, the review cursor will automatically be moved to the position of the System caret each time it moves.


Follow mouse cursor
When enabled, the review cursor will follow the mouse as it moves.


Simple Review mode
When enabled, NVDA will filter the hierarchy of objects that can be navigated to exclude objects that aren't of interest to the user; e.g. invisible objects and objects used only for layout purposes.
To toggle simple review mode from anywhere, please assign a custom gesture using the Input Gestures dialog.


In other words, up to you, and might also depend on context?


Jacob Kruger
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2022-06-17 10:00 AM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:
under preferances, settings, review cursor. i have follow system focus checked, and the 2 boxes after that unchecked. for best results should all of the boxes in that category be checked? thanks.


Gene
 

I haven't looked into what most of the settings do in this category, though I have seen a little discussion and read a bit at some point.  Unless you experiment or know some reason why you would benefit from a settings change, I generally leave defaults as they are.  In this case, the defaults are as follows:
Follow system focus, checked.
Follow system caret, checked.
Follow mouse cursor, unchecked and
simple review mode, checked.

Gene   

On 6/17/2022 3:00 AM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:
under preferances, settings, review cursor. i have follow system focus checked, and the 2 boxes after that unchecked. for best results should all of the boxes in that category be checked? thanks.


Gene
 

I think that for most users, that is a bad way to set things up.  That means that when you want to use screen review for some reason, it will never be where you are in terms of where you have been working.  If a dialog opens, you won't be in that dialog in screen review.  It is usually a better choice to have screen  review be where you are so you can use it if you want to and not have to move to where you are first.  There is a command to move to where the system focus is, but why have things set to have to issue that command as a general practice when most of the time, you want screen review to be where you are working?  The one exception I can think of where you might want to change the setting is if you want to be able to read something that changes over time, such as a number measuring how far along a download is, and you want to be working somewhere else and have the review cursor stay where it is.

Gene

On 6/17/2022 3:12 AM, Lukasz Golonka via groups.io wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 01:00:47 -0700
"mcLeod stinnett" <macks75205@...> wrote:

under preferances, settings, review cursor. i have follow system focus checked, and the 2 boxes after that unchecked. for best results should all of the boxes in that category be checked?
Assuming that by "2 boxes after that" you mean "Follow System Caret" and
"Follow mouse cursor" there is no single good answer. 
The best way to determine how these options should be set for your use
cases would be to read their description in the user guide. I personally
prefer to work with all options in the review settings panel except
"Simple review mode" unchecked, but that is of course pretty subjective,
and requires moving review cursor manually to the focus position rather
than this being done automatically.