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Dennis L
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I wasn't trying to bring other screen readers into
it. However you said the program didn't work. That is simply not
true. it's a NVDA issue clearly.
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Christo de Klerk
Nobody simply said the program doesn't
work. Everybody who said it didn't work, mentioned that it doesn't
work with NVDA. My message was the first one in this thread to say
that it doesn't work and I specifically mentioned NVDA. I quote
from my original message: "Because of a recommendation on this list I downloaded and installed Process Explorer from SysInternals, but it is totally inaccessible with NVDA, not usable at all."
Kind regards
Christo
On 2018/02/11 1:42 PM, Dennis L wrote:
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Casey <cwollner@...>
Hi where do you get this program from? And is it free and easy to install? One last thing what do you need to do when you install it and use it? One last thing what do you all need to do to use the program and set it up?
On 2/11/2018 6:40 AM, Christo de Klerk
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-- Casey
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JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Yes. I’m sorry. It’s my mistake, mostly. This is a (rare) case of a program that seems to work much better with JAWS than it does with NVDA. I thought I had used it with NVDA before, but I use both screen-readers (still quite new to NVDA in fact) and sometimes my internal wires get crossed. I’m sure you could still use the program with nVDA, but arrowing through the list of tasks, for example, currently does not give any speech feedback with nVDA. I apologise for steering people wrong on this list.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: February 11, 2018 7:40 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] about taskmanager
Nobody simply said the program doesn't work. Everybody who said it didn't work, mentioned that it doesn't work with NVDA. My message was the first one in this thread to say that it doesn't work and I specifically mentioned NVDA. I quote from my original message: Process Explorer from SysInternals, but it is totally inaccessible with NVDA, not usable at all."
Kind regards
Christo
On 2018/02/11 1:42 PM, Dennis L wrote:
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You know brian thats what I have been driving at.
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Who cares about the windows interface, maybe you buy the core and a default skin then get others. What is wrong with windows xp interface, nothing. No search box but whatever. win7 searchbox is nice, maybe I get that, but the rest well. Win7 is not that bad. Now win10 interface is not all bad, I mean the main desktop right now is fine, and I must admit those shortcut keys are nice. The searchboxes all over the place I could do with out and all the universal apps, some are really good but I have no problem with classic skype and classic desktop apps. You are right about the hardware. Because of the intel foul up, systems are slower, I have old systems some first gen which ran reasonably right but are now really bad. I have certain boxes that will just not run right anymore. As for skins, I don't mind if I can buy skins or even use certain elements, I want the win7 skin the xp skin, and maybe the windows 9x classic skins. And if then we are going to skins, what if you could run windows skins on a linux kernal, yeah you would have to pay to run windows on linux but then I'd do it. 100-200 bucks for everything or 10-30 bucks a skin, gladly would I part with my cash. Then We wouldn't have this issue. More rich sound themes including ambient sound for different places. Same could be for visuals I guess. And some way to switch interfaces ofcause. Then windows would be a truely universal os. But yeah win10 is not one big crashing crap pile. But its not that tidy from all the recovery partitions it creates, to the fact things seem to be added every little while and they call it progress. The fact that sometimes this means drivers suddenly just don't work anymore and I have to install them. To all sorts of things. On the last update of windows, the graphics card didn't work, and wehn I got it working and checked the program with my hp it found the update for that. Still things didn't work a check of the site told me I was misssing a lot but what about all the boxes that just don't get updates anymore, eventually the new boxes will not get updates then we have an issue. To be honest I am all for an addition of windows that you got, you setup, and you could opt out of ever getting feature updates at all but then would have to get the latest update, something like firefox esr. Right now you can in some additions do this and stop all together updates for various things but if you do once the time expires you are pritty much locked out of updating, till you manually update, reformat, or get some help. Then again I never understood that feature. At any rate in the end you would have no choice.
On 11/02/2018 9:03 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
What makes you think they are not. I'm always being told to get up to date, yet those I know who have seem to have no end of issues in windows 10, the main one, sadly is having to wait for a surprise every few months when Microsoft create a new set of wheels and usually forget to tighten the wheel nuts resulting in one dropping off, so a new fix comes out to superglue it back on. There is a lot to be said for good design and adaptability baked in at the start, rather than this current messing about with operating systems conceived over a coffee or so it seems. By now windows should be a core and have several skins which include the apis that work, so we can make it look and feel like we want for a given task or for those who are used to a particular way of things working.
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It works with nvda, but its really slow, I didn't say it didn't eventually work but its just not feesable.
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On 11/02/2018 11:41 p.m., Dennis L wrote:
the program works fine with Jaws.
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