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Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

William Wong
 

Hi,

One of my computer updated potplayer to 1.7.21126

and came across the following issues with nvda.


1. pressing application key / right click with mouse cannot access the context menu


2. pressing f5 cannot access the preferences


3. the installer of the latest version added a adware, and if it is on that step, pressing tab with nvda cannot access the buttons.


I found it very frustrated, cause my work require potplayer's function.


Anyone would know any media player has a function to press hotkey and copy the current play position to clipboard?


Thanks,

William

Aravind R
 

for me f5 is working. only if i set ETI sapi5 eloquants for reading
sub titles, pot player get hanged. so i am using eSpeak.

On 20/02/2020, William Wong <@WaiWilliam> wrote:
Hi,

One of my computer updated potplayer to 1.7.21126

and came across the following issues with nvda.


1. pressing application key / right click with mouse cannot access the
context menu


2. pressing f5 cannot access the preferences


3. the installer of the latest version added a adware, and if it is on
that step, pressing tab with nvda cannot access the buttons.


I found it very frustrated, cause my work require potplayer's function.


Anyone would know any media player has a function to press hotkey and
copy the current play position to clipboard?


Thanks,

William








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William Wong
 

Did you updated to the latest version?

After F5, I press tab and nothing happened.


Aravind R 於 20/2/2020 9:57 寫道:

for me f5 is working. only if i set ETI sapi5 eloquants for reading
sub titles, pot player get hanged. so i am using eSpeak.

On 20/02/2020, William Wong <@WaiWilliam> wrote:
Hi,

One of my computer updated potplayer to 1.7.21126

and came across the following issues with nvda.


1. pressing application key / right click with mouse cannot access the
context menu


2. pressing f5 cannot access the preferences


3. the installer of the latest version added a adware, and if it is on
that step, pressing tab with nvda cannot access the buttons.


I found it very frustrated, cause my work require potplayer's function.


Anyone would know any media player has a function to press hotkey and
copy the current play position to clipboard?


Thanks,

William







David Griffith
 

I have never used this player but whilst I was looking it up saw that downloads of older versions appear to be archived on
https://www.videohelp.com/software/PotPlayer/old-versions

So presumably you can uninstall the version you have and try and prevent upgrade to the inaccessible version.
David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: 20 February 2020 01:38
To: NVDA Mailing List <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

Hi,

One of my computer updated potplayer to 1.7.21126

and came across the following issues with nvda.


1. pressing application key / right click with mouse cannot access the
context menu


2. pressing f5 cannot access the preferences


3. the installer of the latest version added a adware, and if it is on
that step, pressing tab with nvda cannot access the buttons.


I found it very frustrated, cause my work require potplayer's function.


Anyone would know any media player has a function to press hotkey and
copy the current play position to clipboard?


Thanks,

William

William Wong
 

David,

Many thanks.

Do you have any understanding of downloading from such website, is it safe?

Usually there are some download site that will inject some extra malware or adware into the installers.


David Griffith 於 20/2/2020 10:19 寫道:

I have never used this player but whilst I was looking it up saw that downloads of older versions appear to be archived on
https://www.videohelp.com/software/PotPlayer/old-versions

So presumably you can uninstall the version you have and try and prevent upgrade to the inaccessible version.
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Wong
Sent: 20 February 2020 01:38
To: NVDA Mailing List <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

Hi,

One of my computer updated potplayer to 1.7.21126

and came across the following issues with nvda.


1. pressing application key / right click with mouse cannot access the
context menu


2. pressing f5 cannot access the preferences


3. the installer of the latest version added a adware, and if it is on
that step, pressing tab with nvda cannot access the buttons.


I found it very frustrated, cause my work require potplayer's function.


Anyone would know any media player has a function to press hotkey and
copy the current play position to clipboard?


Thanks,

William









CARLOS-ESTEBAN
 

Hello.
Pot Player now have accessibility issues. A temporal solution is search the installer of a previous version and not update, but the developers now introduce this issues, and in 2018 this player not had a problem with NVDA.
Regards.

anuj sharma
 

How to make accessible latest DAUM pot player
1 open pot player
2 press f5 for preferences
3 expend general and move to skin
4 press tab till “context menu”
5 select “system default” by up and down arrow key
6 press ok and your pot player will be accessible
thanks and try it

On 20/02/2020, CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...> wrote:
Hello.
Pot Player now have accessibility issues. A temporal solution is search the
installer of a previous version and not update, but the developers now
introduce this issues, and in 2018 this player not had a problem with NVDA.
Regards.



 
Edited

Is this an issue exclusive to Windows 10? On my Windows 7 PotPlayer seems to be accessible, even with the latest version. My laptop is running Windows 10 and I'm experiencing the same issue whereby the context menu is not accessible.
Update: I tried the earlier suggestion to change a skin setting, and it worked!
Regarding the adware, the button to decline the offer is clearly accessible with NVDA. Just press enter or space on the decline button and you should be good to go.

 

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 10:39 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
Regarding the adware, the button to decline the offer is clearly accessible with NVDA. Just press enter or space on the decline button and you should be good to go.
As a general note, and it's been true for a long time now, you should always take the time to completely explore each and every dialog presented during the installation of software, and most particularly when it's free software.

Though the software itself may be fine, and free, these days the costs of hosting are often covered by the loathsome practice of bundling, whereby you are "offered" something you neither want nor need as part of the install, and most often that offer is such that if you do not opt out you get it by default.  Even if you use a tool such as Unchecky you still need to be doing your own due diligence, as there are constantly new ways of sneaking these offers in.
 
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       ~ Madonna

 

 

William Wong
 

Thanks for this info.

After the fix, my potplayer is now able to access the context menu.


I think the problem is not exclusive to Win 10, because my win 7 is having this issue as well.


anuj sharma 於 20/2/2020 23:14 寫道:

How to make accessible latest DAUM pot player
1 open pot player
2 press f5 for preferences
3 expend general and move to skin
4 press tab till “context menu”
5 select “system default” by up and down arrow key
6 press ok and your pot player will be accessible
thanks and try it

On 20/02/2020, CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...> wrote:
Hello.
Pot Player now have accessibility issues. A temporal solution is search the
installer of a previous version and not update, but the developers now
introduce this issues, and in 2018 this player not had a problem with NVDA.
Regards.



 

hello.
and thanks for suggestions of everyone that helped us to make pot
player accessible again.
the last version of pot player is 200204.
today i downloaded and installed it on my windows xp.
both bringing preferences by f5 and using context menu with
application key are accessible.
God bless you all!

On 2/20/20, William Wong <@WaiWilliam> wrote:
Hi,

One of my computer updated potplayer to 1.7.21126

and came across the following issues with nvda.


1. pressing application key / right click with mouse cannot access the
context menu


2. pressing f5 cannot access the preferences


3. the installer of the latest version added a adware, and if it is on
that step, pressing tab with nvda cannot access the buttons.


I found it very frustrated, cause my work require potplayer's function.


Anyone would know any media player has a function to press hotkey and
copy the current play position to clipboard?


Thanks,

William







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Arlene
 

William, are you using the latest updates in windows ten?  I don’t know if this is true. I don’t think its accessible for ten. If it is. You may have to tweek it for you to make it work. I heard it works quite well with windows 7.  I think if you down grade Pot player  it will probably work for you.  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: February 21, 2020 4:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

 

hello.

and thanks for suggestions of everyone that helped us to make pot

player accessible again.

the last version of pot player is 200204.

today i downloaded and installed it on my windows xp.

both bringing preferences by f5 and using context menu with

application key are accessible.

God bless you all!

 

On 2/20/20, William Wong <sine.kazurin@...> wrote:

> Hi,

> One of my computer updated potplayer to 1.7.21126

> and came across the following issues with nvda.

> 1. pressing application key / right click with mouse cannot access the

> context menu

> 2. pressing f5 cannot access the preferences

> 3. the installer of the latest version added a adware, and if it is on

> that step, pressing tab with nvda cannot access the buttons.

> I found it very frustrated, cause my work require potplayer's function.

> Anyone would know any media player has a function to press hotkey and

> copy the current play position to clipboard?

> Thanks,

> William

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

William Wong
 

Hi,

Yes, I am using it on win 10. I found it impossible to access the preferences page.

Arlene 於 22/2/2020 1:59 寫道:

William, are you using the latest updates in windows ten?  I don’t know if this is true. I don’t think its accessible for ten. If it is. You may have to tweek it for you to make it work. I heard it works quite well with windows 7.  I think if you down grade Pot player  it will probably work for you.  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: February 21, 2020 4:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

 

hello.

and thanks for suggestions of everyone that helped us to make pot

player accessible again.

the last version of pot player is 200204.

today i downloaded and installed it on my windows xp.

both bringing preferences by f5 and using context menu with

application key are accessible.

God bless you all!

 

On 2/20/20, William Wong <sine.kazurin@...> wrote:

> Hi,

> One of my computer updated potplayer to 1.7.21126

> and came across the following issues with nvda.

> 1. pressing application key / right click with mouse cannot access the

> context menu

> 2. pressing f5 cannot access the preferences

> 3. the installer of the latest version added a adware, and if it is on

> that step, pressing tab with nvda cannot access the buttons.

> I found it very frustrated, cause my work require potplayer's function.

> Anyone would know any media player has a function to press hotkey and

> copy the current play position to clipboard?

> Thanks,

> William

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

Arlene
 

I wonder if you have to down grade?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: William Wong
Sent: February 21, 2020 6:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

 

Hi,

Yes, I am using it on win 10. I found it impossible to access the preferences page.

Arlene 22/2/2020 1:59 寫道:

William, are you using the latest updates in windows ten?  I don’t know if this is true. I don’t think its accessible for ten. If it is. You may have to tweek it for you to make it work. I heard it works quite well with windows 7.  I think if you down grade Pot player  it will probably work for you.  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: February 21, 2020 4:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

 

hello.

and thanks for suggestions of everyone that helped us to make pot

player accessible again.

the last version of pot player is 200204.

today i downloaded and installed it on my windows xp.

both bringing preferences by f5 and using context menu with

application key are accessible.

God bless you all!

 

On 2/20/20, William Wong <sine.kazurin@...> wrote:

> Hi,

> One of my computer updated potplayer to 1.7.21126

> and came across the following issues with nvda.

> 1. pressing application key / right click with mouse cannot access the

> context menu

> 2. pressing f5 cannot access the preferences

> 3. the installer of the latest version added a adware, and if it is on

> that step, pressing tab with nvda cannot access the buttons.

> I found it very frustrated, cause my work require potplayer's function.

> Anyone would know any media player has a function to press hotkey and

> copy the current play position to clipboard?

> Thanks,

> William

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 

William Wong
 

Umm, I am wondering it as well.





Arlene 於 22/2/2020 13:09 寫道:

I wonder if you have to down grade?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: William Wong
Sent: February 21, 2020 6:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

 

Hi,

Yes, I am using it on win 10. I found it impossible to access the preferences page.

Arlene 22/2/2020 1:59 寫道:

William, are you using the latest updates in windows ten?  I don’t know if this is true. I don’t think its accessible for ten. If it is. You may have to tweek it for you to make it work. I heard it works quite well with windows 7.  I think if you down grade Pot player  it will probably work for you.  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: February 21, 2020 4:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

 

hello.

and thanks for suggestions of everyone that helped us to make pot

player accessible again.

the last version of pot player is 200204.

today i downloaded and installed it on my windows xp.

both bringing preferences by f5 and using context menu with

application key are accessible.

God bless you all!

 

On 2/20/20, William Wong <sine.kazurin@...> wrote:

> Hi,

> One of my computer updated potplayer to 1.7.21126

> and came across the following issues with nvda.

> 1. pressing application key / right click with mouse cannot access the

> context menu

> 2. pressing f5 cannot access the preferences

> 3. the installer of the latest version added a adware, and if it is on

> that step, pressing tab with nvda cannot access the buttons.

> I found it very frustrated, cause my work require potplayer's function.

> Anyone would know any media player has a function to press hotkey and

> copy the current play position to clipboard?

> Thanks,

> William

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 

Arlene
 

I don’t use that player. If I was using it. I’d downgrade.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: William Wong
Sent: February 22, 2020 1:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

 

Umm, I am wondering it as well.

 

 

 

 

Arlene 22/2/2020 13:09 寫道:

I wonder if you have to down grade?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: William Wong
Sent: February 21, 2020 6:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

 

Hi,

Yes, I am using it on win 10. I found it impossible to access the preferences page.

Arlene 22/2/2020 1:59 寫道:

William, are you using the latest updates in windows ten?  I don’t know if this is true. I don’t think its accessible for ten. If it is. You may have to tweek it for you to make it work. I heard it works quite well with windows 7.  I think if you down grade Pot player  it will probably work for you.  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: February 21, 2020 4:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility issues with latest potplayer, warn user not to upgrade to latest version

 

hello.

and thanks for suggestions of everyone that helped us to make pot

player accessible again.

the last version of pot player is 200204.

today i downloaded and installed it on my windows xp.

both bringing preferences by f5 and using context menu with

application key are accessible.

God bless you all!

 

On 2/20/20, William Wong <sine.kazurin@...> wrote:

> Hi,

> One of my computer updated potplayer to 1.7.21126

> and came across the following issues with nvda.

> 1. pressing application key / right click with mouse cannot access the

> context menu

> 2. pressing f5 cannot access the preferences

> 3. the installer of the latest version added a adware, and if it is on

> that step, pressing tab with nvda cannot access the buttons.

> I found it very frustrated, cause my work require potplayer's function.

> Anyone would know any media player has a function to press hotkey and

> copy the current play position to clipboard?

> Thanks,

> William

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 

 

yunus Emre
 

Hi  William Wong,
You don't have to downgrade.
Restart potplayer several times and try f5.
When you get to preferences: find tree view, go to top, expand general, under general Skins. Press tab several times, make Context menu combox and change it to system dafult.
Context menu:  System default  
And save it.
I hope it'll get fixed.
Can you tell me how do you copy current time by pressing hotkey?

William Wong
 

Hi, sorry just saw your reply.

Well, I finally managed to make the setting work.

How to copy time to clipboard?

Go into setting, there is a page to configure hotkey.

In there you can add hotkey and its associated function.
yunus Emre 於 25/2/2020 0:04 寫道:

Hi  William Wong,
You don't have to downgrade.
Restart potplayer several times and try f5.
When you get to preferences: find tree view, go to top, expand general, under general Skins. Press tab several times, make Context menu combox and change it to system dafult.
Context menu:  System default  
And save it.
I hope it'll get fixed.
Can you tell me how do you copy current time by pressing hotkey?

yunus Emre
 

I found it but i can't set a hotkey with NVDA or jaws or narrator.

William Wong
 

Haha,

There need some trick. Because the ui is not accessible, i.e. after setting the hotkey in the box, if you tab, the hot key will be set to tab.

so you need a mouse to control, i.e. after pressing the key into the box, you need to use mouse to put the focus out to somewhere.





yunus Emre 於 15/3/2020 2:11 寫道:

I found it but i can't set a hotkey with NVDA or jaws or narrator.