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accessible version of Seamonkey?

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi,
My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10 computer with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it. I got 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no shortcut keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL work. It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button and alt button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I was the one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
--
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Andrea Sherry
 

Have you tried Mozilla Firefox? This is totally acdcessible.
Cheers
Andrea

On 4/03/2016 10:41 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,
My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10 computer with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it. I got 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no shortcut keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL work. It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button and alt button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I was the one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
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Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi Andrea,
I'm sorry, I should have given more details. I use Firefox for my browsing, but we both prefer Seamonkey and that was the mail program my husband used, so that's really what we want it for, but I'd love to have it working on the web again like before. Am also trying to find out how to restore the computer to an earlier date before I messed it up in hopes that would fix it. Thanks.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
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God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 6:48 AM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Have you tried Mozilla Firefox? This is totally acdcessible.
Cheers
Andrea

On 4/03/2016 10:41 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,
My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10 computer
with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use
Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it. I got
2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no shortcut
keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL work.
It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button and alt
button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I was the
one that messed it up on him? Thanks.

Vincent Thacker <vince@...>
 

Hi, Lisa,

I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened with yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version 2.39, which I believe is the latest.

I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key until you can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu, choose Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.

A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.

If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of Seamonkey in another form, really.

Hope that's some help.

Vince in England.





========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi,
My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10 computer
with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use
Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it. I got
2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no shortcut
keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL work.
It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button and alt
button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I was the
one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
--
Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!




Jacob Kruger
 

Lisa, on the seamonkey download page, there's a heading with a list of something like 200+ old and unofficial versions available for download, so, seems like, as long as you know the version you're looking for, you can find it here:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#old_unofficial

If that page doesn't automatically take you to that heading, look for a heading called old and unofficial releases - and, let us know the version that works, since would also like to try out other mail clients for the various mail accounts I have...<smile>

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-04 1:41 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,
My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10 computer
with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use
Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it. I got
2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no shortcut
keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL work.
It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button and alt
button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I was the
one that messed it up on him? Thanks.

Gene
 

There are a number of things to consider and I hope this message will stir discussion. 
 
Doing a system restore might correct the problem but it may not be necessary and the fix may not last long.  Unless you have
the program set not to automatically update itself and if the latest version isn't accessible, you may have the same problem again.  Also, it is not advised to run old versions of browsers for security reasons.  I don't know anything about using CMonkey as an e-mail program.  I know it is a browser.  I would suggest running CMonkey for e-mail since you did it before and using something else as a browser. 
 
There are sites that have old versions of software.  I don't know which site might have old versions of CMonkey.  I would suggest not doing anything until you get more information and until the implications of what you want to do are discussed and understood further. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Andrea,
I'm sorry, I should have given more details. I use Firefox for my
browsing, but we both prefer Seamonkey and that was the mail program my
husband used, so that's really what we want it for, but I'd love to have
it working on the web again like before. Am also trying to find out how
to restore the computer to an earlier date before I messed it up in
hopes that would fix it. Thanks.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 6:48 AM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
> Have you tried Mozilla Firefox? This is totally acdcessible.
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
> On 4/03/2016 10:41 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
>> Hi,
>> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10 computer
>> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use
>> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it. I got
>> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no shortcut
>> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL work.
>> It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
>> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button and alt
>> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I was the
>> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
>


Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are about 4 or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu, all I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can you give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it will read better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Hi, Lisa,

I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened with
yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version 2.39,
which I believe is the latest.

I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key until you
can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu, choose
Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.

A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.

If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of Seamonkey in
another form, really.

Hope that's some help.

Vince in England.





========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi,
My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10 computer
with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use
Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it. I got
2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no shortcut
keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL work.
It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button and alt
button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I was the
one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
--
Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!




Vincent Thacker <vince@...>
 

Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu, all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version 2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu, choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10 computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it. I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>




Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu, choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10 computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it. I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>




valiant8086
 

Hi.

I just went and installed Seamonkey from scratch here, It's been a long time since I used it since I always use Thunderbird portable. Ensure that you're downloading from:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

I'm using jaws at present, but Seamonkey is very similar to Thunderbird and thus rather screen reader friendly for the most part. I'm writing this with it, and this is my first message so hopefully it works. The version I have is 2.39. I wonder if there could be an add-on or interface setting that has made it go all wonky. Did you try redownloading it, are you sure you're downloading from the official site, which appears to be that which I linked above?

Worse come to worse, Thunderbird will do most everything Seamonkey does with no necessity to relearn anything, it is almost exactly the same just no web browser built right in. But I think you can fix it by uninstalling Seamonkey and perhaps deleting your settings folder for Seamonkey so it starts from scratch.
Press windows key+r, type %appdata% and press enter. When the folder opens, find Mozilla and open it. Now find Seamonkey and delete that puppy. Btw, don't hold me responsible if that breaks something else even though it wouldn't make sense for it to do so. Of course, I'd recommend uninstalling seamonkey then deleting that after uninstallation, then reinstall, hopefully if it is a setting that's the problem the setting in question is not stored in the registry?

Good luck and enjoy setting that all up from scratch again! And yes, don't forget about Thunderbird. I've been using it for years, it doesn't seem like it should be too awfully hard a call to switch to that given how similar they are. Granted, I would submit that it shouldn't be necessary, Seamonkey should work fine, definitely is for me.

Lisa P Geibel wrote:

Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened
with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu,
choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of
Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10
computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to
use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it.
I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL
work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button
and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>




laura cornwell <lauracornwell1@...>
 

about cmunckeyit's work great I just installed it I like it for the web brouser and it can used as a email program as well how do you get your email. useing it?

On 3/4/2016 8:19 PM, valiant8086 wrote:
Hi.

I just went and installed Seamonkey from scratch here, It's been a long time since I used it since I always use Thunderbird portable. Ensure that you're downloading from:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

I'm using jaws at present, but Seamonkey is very similar to Thunderbird and thus rather screen reader friendly for the most part. I'm writing this with it, and this is my first message so hopefully it works. The version I have is 2.39. I wonder if there could be an add-on or interface setting that has made it go all wonky. Did you try redownloading it, are you sure you're downloading from the official site, which appears to be that which I linked above?

Worse come to worse, Thunderbird will do most everything Seamonkey does with no necessity to relearn anything, it is almost exactly the same just no web browser built right in. But I think you can fix it by uninstalling Seamonkey and perhaps deleting your settings folder for Seamonkey so it starts from scratch.
Press windows key+r, type %appdata% and press enter. When the folder opens, find Mozilla and open it. Now find Seamonkey and delete that puppy. Btw, don't hold me responsible if that breaks something else even though it wouldn't make sense for it to do so. Of course, I'd recommend uninstalling seamonkey then deleting that after uninstallation, then reinstall, hopefully if it is a setting that's the problem the setting in question is not stored in the registry?

Good luck and enjoy setting that all up from scratch again! And yes, don't forget about Thunderbird. I've been using it for years, it doesn't seem like it should be too awfully hard a call to switch to that given how similar they are. Granted, I would submit that it shouldn't be necessary, Seamonkey should work fine, definitely is for me.

Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened
with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu,
choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of
Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10
computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used
to use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall
it. I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a
URL work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button
and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>






Vincent Thacker <vince@...>
 

Lisa,

Do you have any luck if you try Internet Explorer, for example? Just trying to isolate your problem.

Vince in England.





========================================
Message Received: Mar 05 2016, 01:25 AM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read
anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and
disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove the
program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install did.
Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems
started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Lisa,
>
> Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
> items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
> press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
> that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
> Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.
>
> From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
> submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
> items are not being spoken by NVDA.
>
> It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
> be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
> working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
> Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
> remove any corrupt material.
>
> To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
> https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US
>
> That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
> Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
> you can run it.
>
> Vince in England.
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi Vincent,
> Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are about 4
> or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
> what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
> normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
> all
> I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
> you
> give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it will read
> better? Please and thanks?.
>
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
> On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> > Hi, Lisa,
> >
> > I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened with
> > yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version
> 2.39,
> > which I believe is the latest.
> >
> > I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
> until you
> > can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu, choose
> > Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
> >
> > A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.
> >
> > If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of Seamonkey in
> > another form, really.
> >
> > Hope that's some help.
> >
> > Vince in England.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ========================================
> > Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> > From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> > To: nvda@groups.io
> > Cc:
> > Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
> >
> > Hi,
> > My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10 computer
> > with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use
> > Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it. I got
> > 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
> shortcut
> > keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL work.
> > It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
> > nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button and alt
> > button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
> was the
> > one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> > --
> > Lisa
> > E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> > Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> > Philmore box shared with hubby:
> > 773-572-7897
> > God bless everyone!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>




Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
If you are having trouble uninstalling as well there is a free program you can try called revo uninstaller. It works well and it is how I uninstall most of my programs. It can be found at:
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html

Make sure you get the freware version. The professional version does not work very well with screen readers yet the free version works quite well. This program will help get rid of the program giving you an issue. I too just installed SeaMonkey from scratch with out an issue. I have not used it in a while and may give it another try.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/4/2016 8:25 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened
with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu,
choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of
Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10
computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to
use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it.
I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL
work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button
and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>




valiant8086
 

Hi.
I'm a newbie at Seamonkey myself, but I can open the email portion of it by pressing ctrl+2. I believe ctrl+1 goes to the web browser.

Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.5.0 portable

On 3/5/2016 12:44 AM, laura cornwell wrote:
about cmunckeyit's work great I just installed it I like it for the web brouser and it can used as a email program as well how do you get your email. useing it?

On 3/4/2016 8:19 PM, valiant8086 wrote:
Hi.

I just went and installed Seamonkey from scratch here, It's been a long time since I used it since I always use Thunderbird portable. Ensure that you're downloading from:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

I'm using jaws at present, but Seamonkey is very similar to Thunderbird and thus rather screen reader friendly for the most part. I'm writing this with it, and this is my first message so hopefully it works. The version I have is 2.39. I wonder if there could be an add-on or interface setting that has made it go all wonky. Did you try redownloading it, are you sure you're downloading from the official site, which appears to be that which I linked above?

Worse come to worse, Thunderbird will do most everything Seamonkey does with no necessity to relearn anything, it is almost exactly the same just no web browser built right in. But I think you can fix it by uninstalling Seamonkey and perhaps deleting your settings folder for Seamonkey so it starts from scratch.
Press windows key+r, type %appdata% and press enter. When the folder opens, find Mozilla and open it. Now find Seamonkey and delete that puppy. Btw, don't hold me responsible if that breaks something else even though it wouldn't make sense for it to do so. Of course, I'd recommend uninstalling seamonkey then deleting that after uninstallation, then reinstall, hopefully if it is a setting that's the problem the setting in question is not stored in the registry?

Good luck and enjoy setting that all up from scratch again! And yes, don't forget about Thunderbird. I've been using it for years, it doesn't seem like it should be too awfully hard a call to switch to that given how similar they are. Granted, I would submit that it shouldn't be necessary, Seamonkey should work fine, definitely is for me.

Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's
happened with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have
version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu,
choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key
plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of
Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10
computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used
to use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall
it. I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a
URL work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install
was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were
button and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>








Kevin Cussick
 

just one thing to take note of, revo only works on 32 bit programs so if you have any 64 bit programs it won't even know there there I took it off all my machines because of this.

On 05/03/2016 13:10, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
If you are having trouble uninstalling as well there is a free program
you can try called revo uninstaller. It works well and it is how I
uninstall most of my programs. It can be found at:
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html

Make sure you get the freware version. The professional version does not
work very well with screen readers yet the free version works quite
well. This program will help get rid of the program giving you an issue.
I too just installed SeaMonkey from scratch with out an issue. I have
not used it in a while and may give it another try.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/4/2016 8:25 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read
anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and
disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove
the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install
did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems
started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are
about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it
will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened
with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu,
choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of
Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10
computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to
use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it.
I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL
work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button
and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>






 

On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 03:08 pm, Kevin Cussick <the.big.white.shepherd@...> wrote:
revo only works on 32 bit programs

That is correct only for the free version.  The Pro version, which includes a 30-day free fully functional trial, works on either 32-bit or 64-bit systems and programs.

Brian

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
I use it on my 64bit windows 10 laptop all the time with no issues what so ever. It sees all my programs whether 32 or 64bit.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/5/2016 6:08 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io wrote:
just one thing to take note of, revo only works on 32 bit programs so if you have any 64 bit programs it won't even know there there I took it off all my machines because of this.

On 05/03/2016 13:10, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
If you are having trouble uninstalling as well there is a free program
you can try called revo uninstaller. It works well and it is how I
uninstall most of my programs. It can be found at:
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html

Make sure you get the freware version. The professional version does not
work very well with screen readers yet the free version works quite
well. This program will help get rid of the program giving you an issue.
I too just installed SeaMonkey from scratch with out an issue. I have
not used it in a while and may give it another try.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/4/2016 8:25 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read
anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and
disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove
the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install
did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems
started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
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On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are
about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it
will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened
with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have
version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu,
choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key
plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of
Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10
computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to
use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it.
I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL
work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install
was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button
and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>







Kevin Cussick
 

Yes but the pro version is not accessible or was not the last time I tried. I have another program now that works with both it's called something like bulk crap uninstaller.

On 05/03/2016 23:14, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 03:08 pm, Kevin Cussick
<the.big.white.shepherd@...> wrote:

revo only works on 32 bit programs

That is correct only for the free version. The Pro version, which
includes a 30-day free fully functional trial, works on either 32-bit or
64-bit systems and programs.

Brian

Kevin Cussick
 

well your lucky it doesn't work for anyone else. are you not using the pro version? I have asked loads of people and even the support people who make this program and thy even told me it only will see 32 bit programs.

On 05/03/2016 23:24, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
I use it on my 64bit windows 10 laptop all the time with no issues what
so ever. It sees all my programs whether 32 or 64bit.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/5/2016 6:08 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io wrote:
just one thing to take note of, revo only works on 32 bit programs
so if you have any 64 bit programs it won't even know there there I
took it off all my machines because of this.

On 05/03/2016 13:10, Greg Wocher wrote:
Hello,
If you are having trouble uninstalling as well there is a free program
you can try called revo uninstaller. It works well and it is how I
uninstall most of my programs. It can be found at:
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html

Make sure you get the freware version. The professional version does not
work very well with screen readers yet the free version works quite
well. This program will help get rid of the program giving you an issue.
I too just installed SeaMonkey from scratch with out an issue. I have
not used it in a while and may give it another try.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 3/4/2016 8:25 PM, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read
anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and
disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove
the program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install
did. Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems
started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Lisa,

Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found the
menu
items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various
toolbars
that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow key.

From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
items are not being spoken by NVDA.

It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case it
would
be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and
so may
remove any corrupt material.

To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US

That link above should start the installer downloading. In
Seamonkey or
Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
you can run it.

Vince in England.

========================================
Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are
about 4
or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't
read
what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things
act
normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file
menu,
all
I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you
any? Can
you
give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it
will read
better? Please and thanks?.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Hi, Lisa,
>
> I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened
with
> yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have
version
2.39,
> which I believe is the latest.
>
> I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
until you
> can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu,
choose
> Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
>
> A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key
plus D.
>
> If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of
Seamonkey in
> another form, really.
>
> Hope that's some help.
>
> Vince in England.
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi,
> My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10
computer
> with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to
use
> Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it.
I got
> 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
shortcut
> keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL
work.
> It's only reading things like button and such. The install
was a
> nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button
and alt
> button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
was the
> one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> --
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
>
>
>
>









Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi Vincent,
Thanks for your help. Yes, i can use IE just fine with no problems and Firefox too for that matter. Thunderbird as well. All these problems seem to be Seamonkey specific for either the mail or web portions.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/5/16 7:23 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
Lisa,

Do you have any luck if you try Internet Explorer, for example? Just
trying to isolate your problem.

Vince in England.





========================================
Message Received: Mar 05 2016, 01:25 AM
From: "Lisa P Geibel"
To: nvda@groups.io
Cc:
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?

Hi Vincent,
Sorry, we also have the latest version of JAWS, but it won't read
anything with that either. Very perplexed by all of this and
disappointed in myself. Thanks for all your help. Can't even remove the
program and put it back on as it reads the same as the install did.
Can't restore the computer to an earlier time before the problems
started. Looks like I'm just stuck.

Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!

On 3/4/16 9:30 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> Lisa,
>
> Sorry, I wasn't quite accurate in my last mail,, but you found
the menu
> items anyway. In Seamonkey, go to View Menu, then Show / Hide, then
> press the right arrow key to start the submenu with the various
toolbars
> that you can show or hide. There is a further submenu for Website
> Navigation, which you can again reach by pressing the right arrow
key.
>
> From the main menu bar, for example, if you are at Bookmarks, the
> submenu should appear if you press the down arrow. I have no idea why
> items are not being spoken by NVDA.
>
> It may be that some settings have got corrupted , in which case
it would
> be an idea to remove Seamonkey and start again. If NVDA is otherwise
> working OK, this may be the best option. I remove programs with Revo
> Uninstaller, which looks for relevant files all over your PC, and
so may
> remove any corrupt material.
>
> To get the current version of seamonkey, version 2.39, go to:
>
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.39&os=win&lang=en-US
>
> That link above should start the installer downloading. In
Seamonkey or
> Firefox, you will get a dialog box asking you to save the file before
> you can run it.
>
> Vince in England.
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 01:38 PM
> From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
>
> Hi Vincent,
> Thank you for getting back. Yes, menu is checked, but there are
about 4
> or 5 other things below it that are also checked and it doesn't read
> what they are. I know how to get to the view choice when things act
> normally, but when I left and right arrow when I'm in the file menu,
> all
> I hear is submenu submenu and that's it. Does that help you any? Can
> you
> give me any tips on things to have checked or unchecked so it
will read
> better? Please and thanks?.
>
> Lisa
> E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> Philmore box shared with hubby:
> 773-572-7897
> God bless everyone!!!
>
> On 3/4/16 8:09 AM, Vincent Thacker wrote:
> > Hi, Lisa,
> >
> > I've got Seamonkey on my PC, and I don't know what's happened with
> > yours, but it looks much the same as it ever did. I have version
> 2.39,
> > which I believe is the latest.
> >
> > I wonder if you have menus turned off. Hold down the Alt key
> until you
> > can find out what's there. If you can get to the View menu, choose
> > Toolbars and make sure that menus are on.
> >
> > A shortcut to save a favorite or bookmark is Control key plus D.
> >
> > If you have Firefox and Thunderbird, you have most of Seamonkey in
> > another form, really.
> >
> > Hope that's some help.
> >
> > Vince in England.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ========================================
> > Message Received: Mar 04 2016, 11:41 AM
> > From: "Lisa P Geibel"
> > To: nvda@groups.io
> > Cc:
> > Subject: [nvda] accessible version of Seamonkey?
> >
> > Hi,
> > My husband and I are both totally blind and use a Windows 10
computer
> > with NVDA. I use Thunderbird for my mail client and he used to use
> > Seamonkey until something happened and we had to reinstall it.
I got
> > 2.93 and it is very different than the older one he had as no
> shortcut
> > keys such as alt b to add to favorites or ctrl l to open a URL
work.
> > It's only reading things like button and such. The install was a
> > nightmare and he had to do it as the only choices were button
and alt
> > button. Please help with finding an accessible version since I
> was the
> > one that messed it up on him? Thanks.
> > --
> > Lisa
> > E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@...
> > Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
> > Philmore box shared with hubby:
> > 773-572-7897
> > God bless everyone!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>