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I understand clearly. He is on windows 7, he cannot update to nvda 22.x and other add ons because of the version of eloquence, and I think I know what that is, I can't say it here, sorry.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 10:34 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather Add-On
Joseph wrote:
my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as techey as some of you are.
Joseph,
I'm now even more confused than before! What does Eloquence have to do with anything when it comes to adding an entry. Maybe I'm just an idiot, but I seriously don't follow. That's not trying to be smarth mouthed. I really truly am not following.
Chris.
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What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see what
Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on uses whatever
voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you haven't told us just how
you are looking for an upgrade and what happens.
Do you know that you can go to the web site and install the current
version of the add-on? You will be asked by NVDA at some point if
you want to install the new version. If you say yes, the new
version will be installed over the old one. Any settings in the old
one will be kept. You don't have to upgrade by using the upgrade
offered in the add-on itself.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph Machise
wrote:
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my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as techey as
some of you are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
thanks did the best that I can.
-
To be clear, that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have both the latest NVDA and the
latest Weather Plus versions before this can really go anywhere.
If you don't have them, you now have more than enough information
to get them and get them installed.
--
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Scratch most feminists and
underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex object. The
difference is that is not all she
wants to be.
~ Betty
Rollin
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Joseph Machise <jdmachise@...>
gene updated it by going to the site
for some reason my NVDA won't update with the new one with this speach thanks
will be back lader on.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather Add-On
What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see
what Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on uses whatever voice
you are using with NVDA. Also, you haven't told us just how you are
looking for an upgrade and what happens. Do you know that you can
go to the web site and install the current version of the add-on? You will
be asked by NVDA at some point if you want to install the new version. If
you say yes, the new version will be installed over the old one. Any
settings in the old one will be kept. You don't have to upgrade by using
the upgrade offered in the add-on itself. Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as techey as some of you
are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
thanks did the best that I can. - To be clear, that
was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have both the
latest NVDA and the latest Weather Plus versions before this can really go
anywhere. If you don't have them, you now have more than enough
information to get them and get them installed. --
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build
19044
Scratch most feminists and underneath there
is a woman who longs to be a sex object. The difference is that is not
all she wants to be.
~ Betty
Rollin
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If you are saying you lose speech when you try to install the
add-on, I have no idea why. At this point, we don't even know if
the synthesizer you are using has anything to do with the problem.
You can try using a different synthesizer, E-Speakk, for example.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:59 PM, Joseph Machise
wrote:
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gene updated it by going to the site for some reason my NVDA
won't update with the new one with this speach thanks will be
back lader on.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see what
Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on uses whatever
voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you haven't told us just how
you are looking for an upgrade and what happens.
Do you know that you can go to the web site and install the
current version of the add-on? You will be asked by NVDA at some
point if you want to install the new version. If you say yes, the
new version will be installed over the old one. Any settings in
the old one will be kept. You don't have to upgrade by using the
upgrade offered in the add-on itself.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph Machise
wrote:
my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as techey
as some of you are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
thanks did the best that I can.
-
To be clear, that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have both the latest NVDA and the
latest Weather Plus versions before this can really go
anywhere. If you don't have them, you now have more than enough
information to get them and get them installed.
--
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Scratch most feminists and
underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex object.
The difference is that is not all
she wants to be.
~ Betty
Rollin
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Joseph Machise <jdmachise@...>
gene e speak is hard to understand,
it won't install it is not compatible with eloquence, thanks going out for some
errands will be back later on.
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:08 PM
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If you are saying you lose speech when you try to install the
add-on, I have no idea why. At this point, we don't even know if the
synthesizer you are using has anything to do with the problem. You can try
using a different synthesizer, E-Speakk, for example. Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
gene updated it by going to the site for some reason my NVDA won't update
with the new one with this speach thanks will be back lader on.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see
what Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on uses whatever
voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you haven't told us just how you
are looking for an upgrade and what happens.
Do you know that
you can go to the web site and install the current version of the
add-on? You will be asked by NVDA at some point if you want to install
the new version. If you say yes, the new version will be installed over
the old one. Any settings in the old one will be kept. You don't
have to upgrade by using the upgrade offered in the add-on
itself.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph Machise
wrote:
my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as techey as some of
you are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
thanks did the best that I can. - To be clear,
that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have
both the latest NVDA and the latest Weather Plus versions before this can
really go anywhere. If you don't have them, you now have more than
enough information to get them and get them installed. --
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build
19044
Scratch most feminists and underneath there
is a woman who longs to be a sex object. The difference is that is not
all she wants to be.
~ Betty
Rollin
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It appears you are saying you can't upgrade NVDA because the current
version is incompatible with the version of whatever Eloquence
add-on you are using.
Let's ;put everything else aside for the moment and discuss a very
simple question. Can you use the version of the weather add-on you
currently have? If it does what you want and you don't want to
upgrade NVDA, then use the current version of the add-on. If you
can no longer use it later, then worry about upgrading NVDA.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 1:08 PM, Gene wrote:
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If you
are saying you lose speech when you try to install the add-on, I
have no idea why. At this point, we don't even know if the
synthesizer you are using has anything to do with the problem.
You can try using a different synthesizer, E-Speakk, for example.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:59 PM, Joseph Machise
wrote:
gene updated it by going to the site for some reason my
NVDA won't update with the new one with this speach thanks
will be back lader on.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see what
Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on uses whatever
voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you haven't told us just
how you are looking for an upgrade and what happens.
Do you know that you can go to the web site and install the
current version of the add-on? You will be asked by NVDA at
some point if you want to install the new version. If you say
yes, the new version will be installed over the old one. Any
settings in the old one will be kept. You don't have to upgrade
by using the upgrade offered in the add-on itself.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as
techey as some of you are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
thanks did the best that I can.
-
To be clear, that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have both the latest NVDA and
the latest Weather Plus versions before this can really go
anywhere. If you don't have them, you now have more than
enough information to get them and get them installed.
--
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Scratch most feminists and
underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex object.
The difference is that is not all
she wants to be.
~ Betty
Rollin
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What do you mean e-speak isn't compatible with eloquence? They're 2 different synthesizers. I have no trouble understanding e-speak. In fact, I'm using the female 5 voice and she's really clear.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Machise Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 11:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather Add-On gene e speak is hard to understand, it won't install it is not compatible with eloquence, thanks going out for some errands will be back later on. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather Add-On If you are saying you lose speech when you try to install the add-on, I have no idea why. At this point, we don't even know if the synthesizer you are using has anything to do with the problem. You can try using a different synthesizer, E-Speakk, for example.
Gene On 4/4/2022 12:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote: gene updated it by going to the site for some reason my NVDA won't update with the new one with this speach thanks will be back lader on. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather Add-On What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see what Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on uses whatever voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you haven't told us just how you are looking for an upgrade and what happens.
Do you know that you can go to the web site and install the current version of the add-on? You will be asked by NVDA at some point if you want to install the new version. If you say yes, the new version will be installed over the old one. Any settings in the old one will be kept. You don't have to upgrade by using the upgrade offered in the add-on itself.
Gene On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph Machise wrote: my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as techey as some of you are. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather Add-On On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote: thanks did the best that I can.
- To be clear, that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have both the latest NVDA and the latest Weather Plus versions before this can really go anywhere. If you don't have them, you now have more than enough information to get them and get them installed. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Scratch most feminists and underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex object. The difference is that is not all she wants to be. ~ Betty Rollin
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Joseph Machise <jdmachise@...>
Gene can't add cities to the weather pluss
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:32 PM
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It appears you are saying you can't upgrade NVDA because the
current version is incompatible with the version of whatever Eloquence add-on
you are using. Let's ;put everything else aside for the
moment and discuss a very simple question. Can you use the version of the
weather add-on you currently have? If it does what you want and you don't
want to upgrade NVDA, then use the current version of the add-on. If you
can no longer use it later, then worry about upgrading NVDA. Gene
On 4/4/2022 1:08 PM, Gene wrote:
If you are saying you lose speech when you try to install the
add-on, I have no idea why. At this point, we don't even know if the
synthesizer you are using has anything to do with the problem. You can
try using a different synthesizer, E-Speakk, for example.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:59 PM, Joseph Machise
wrote:
gene updated it by going to the site for some reason my NVDA won't
update with the new one with this speach thanks will be back lader on.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see
what Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on uses whatever
voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you haven't told us just how you
are looking for an upgrade and what happens.
Do you know that
you can go to the web site and install the current version of the
add-on? You will be asked by NVDA at some point if you want to install
the new version. If you say yes, the new version will be installed
over the old one. Any settings in the old one will be kept. You
don't have to upgrade by using the upgrade offered in the add-on
itself.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph Machise
wrote:
my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as techey as some of
you are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
thanks did the best that I can. - To be clear,
that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have
both the latest NVDA and the latest Weather Plus versions before this can
really go anywhere. If you don't have them, you now have more than
enough information to get them and get them installed. --
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build
19044
Scratch most feminists and underneath
there is a woman who longs to be a sex object. The difference is that is
not all she wants to be.
~ Betty
Rollin
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Joseph, 1. To Update NVDA, download the latest version by activating this link: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2021.3.5/nvda_2021.3.5.exe
2. Activate the resulting downloaded NVDA executable. It should uninstall your current version and replace it with the latest. If you have a lot of really old add-ons you may have some disabled. 3. Download the NVDA Add-On Updater add-on here: https://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=nvda3208 4. In NVDA, open Add-ons Manager [NVDA + N, T, A, Enter]. 5. Navigate to the Install button, and activate it. In the dialog, you have to navigate to whatever folder to which you happened to have saved the NVDA Add-On Updater add-on file, select that file, then activate the Open button. The Add-On should then install. After having done the above, I would suggest exiting NVDA entirely, then starting it up again. Better yet, exit NVDA, restart your computer, then start up NVDA again (if it isn't already set to come up when Windows starts). At this point Add-On Updater should prompt you about any add-ons needing an updated version or warning you about incompatible add-ons that will be disabled. With Add-On Updater active any time an add on that is listed on the NVDA Community Add-Ons page receives an update you will be notified and asked if you wish to update it. Add-On Updater itself should tell you if your existing Weather Plus add-on is out of date and needs to be updated, and if it does, allow it to be updated. --
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Scratch most feminists and underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex object. The difference is that is not all she wants to be.
~ Betty Rollin
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Joseph Machise <jdmachise@...>
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather Add-On
Joseph, 1. To Update NVDA, download the latest
version by activating this link: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2021.3.5/nvda_2021.3.5.exe
2.
Activate the resulting downloaded NVDA executable. It should uninstall
your current version and replace it with the latest. If you have a lot of
really old add-ons you may have some disabled. 3. Download the NVDA Add-On
Updater add-on here: https://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=nvda3208 4.
In NVDA, open Add-ons Manager [NVDA + N, T, A, Enter]. 5. Navigate to the
Install button, and activate it. In the dialog, you have to navigate to
whatever folder to which you happened to have saved the NVDA Add-On Updater
add-on file, select that file, then activate the Open button. The Add-On
should then install. After having done the above, I would suggest exiting
NVDA entirely, then starting it up again. Better yet, exit NVDA, restart
your computer, then start up NVDA again (if it isn't already set to come up when
Windows starts). At this point Add-On Updater should prompt you about any
add-ons needing an updated version or warning you about incompatible add-ons
that will be disabled. With Add-On Updater active any time an add on that
is listed on the NVDA Community Add-Ons page receives an update you will be
notified and asked if you wish to update it. Add-On Updater itself should
tell you if your existing Weather Plus add-on is out of date and needs to be
updated, and if it does, allow it to be updated. --
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build
19044
Scratch most feminists and underneath
there is a woman who longs to be a sex object. The difference is that is not
all she wants to be.
~ Betty Rollin
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One thing you can do is run the latest NVDA as a portable version
and use a different voice. You would just use the portable version
with the weather program. If you are using the illegal Eloquence
add-on, it isn't allowed to discuss illegal software on list so I
won't discuss that further.
I will discuss, if you need to know, how to run NVDA as a portable
version and how to install the add-on in the portable version.
I will also discuss how to use Microsoft Anna for speech.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 1:38 PM, Joseph Machise
wrote:
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Gene can't add cities to the weather pluss
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
It appears you are saying you can't upgrade NVDA because the
current version is incompatible with the version of whatever
Eloquence add-on you are using.
Let's ;put everything else aside for the moment and discuss a
very simple question. Can you use the version of the weather
add-on you currently have? If it does what you want and you don't
want to upgrade NVDA, then use the current version of the add-on.
If you can no longer use it later, then worry about upgrading
NVDA.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 1:08 PM, Gene wrote:
If you are saying you lose speech when you try to
install the add-on, I have no idea why. At this point, we don't
even know if the synthesizer you are using has anything to do
with the problem. You can try using a different synthesizer,
E-Speakk, for example.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:59 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
gene updated it by going to the site for some reason my
NVDA won't update with the new one with this speach thanks
will be back lader on.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see what
Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on uses
whatever voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you haven't
told us just how you are looking for an upgrade and what
happens.
Do you know that you can go to the web site and install the
current version of the add-on? You will be asked by NVDA at
some point if you want to install the new version. If you say
yes, the new version will be installed over the old one. Any
settings in the old one will be kept. You don't have to
upgrade by using the upgrade offered in the add-on itself.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as
techey as some of you are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The
Weather Add-On
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
thanks did the best that I can.
-
To be clear, that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have both the latest NVDA and
the latest Weather Plus versions before this can really go
anywhere. If you don't have them, you now have more than
enough information to get them and get them installed.
--
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Scratch most feminists
and underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex
object. The difference is that is not all
she wants to be.
~ Betty
Rollin
|
|
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 02:32 PM, Gene wrote:
Can you use the version of the weather add-on you currently have? If it does what you want and you don't want to upgrade NVDA, then use the current version of the add-on. If you can no longer use it later, then worry about upgrading NVDA.
- Gene, Logic dictates that this issue has arisen with whatever versions of NVDA and Weather Plus that Mr. Machise already has, or the question would not have arisen in the first place. But putting that aside, it is a very, very bad idea to suggest not updating software in general as updates become available. This is particularly so with NVDA and its add-ons. Avoiding updates, except in rare occasions, just keeps digging a deeper and deeper "compatibility/incompatibility" hole that is going to eventually have to be gotten out of. There is a reason that the group rules state: The discussion of software on the NVDA Group is limited to software currently in support. Depending on the type of software, specific version numbers will change with time. Users are expected to know what remains in support and what has been dropped, and announcements will be made to this group when new software is released. It should be assumed that, when a new version of software is released, primary discussion will take place on that version, not versions of software which are years old.
That's not there because it's my personal preference (though I'll admit that it is) but because no software maker, and certainly not NVAccess or Microsoft, is going to try to maintain perpetual backward compatibility. Computing is a stream, and one must really become accustomed to flowing with it as a matter of best practice whenever possible. Eventually, choice completely leaves the picture. Even though NVDA remains compatible with Windows 7 at the moment, the writing is clearly on the wall about that not continuing all that much longer. Windows 8.1 is less than a year from sunset/end of life. The expectation that the entire Windows ecosystem under which NVDA and its add-ons are being used will be one that is in support in order for it to be discussed here is not optional. I continue to allow the discussion of NVDA under Windows 7 because so long as it does remain backward compatible with Windows 7 that version of NVDA remains on-topic. But upon release of the first version of NVDA that is not compatible with Windows 7, then all things Windows 7 and earlier will be, as they have been, relegated to the Chat Subgroup or to other venues. --
Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Scratch most feminists and underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex object. The difference is that is not all she wants to be.
~ Betty Rollin
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Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
Gene,
Is it permissible to discuss Eloquence on here, provided strictly
and firmly that we are talking about the legal code factory
version which they made for Sapi 5 speech? Again, let me be 100
and ten billion percent clear here. I'm talking about the $60, I
think it is version, provided we've legitimately purchased it, and
can prove beyond a doubt if asked to do so, that we have a
licensed copy?
Chris.
On 4/4/2022 2:47 PM, Gene wrote:
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One thing you can do is run the latest NVDA as a portable version
and use a different voice. You would just use the portable
version with the weather program. If you are using the illegal
Eloquence add-on, it isn't allowed to discuss illegal software on
list so I won't discuss that further.
I will discuss, if you need to know, how to run NVDA as a portable
version and how to install the add-on in the portable version.
I will also discuss how to use Microsoft Anna for speech.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 1:38 PM, Joseph Machise
wrote:
Gene can't add cities to the weather pluss
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
It appears you are saying you can't upgrade NVDA because the
current version is incompatible with the version of whatever
Eloquence add-on you are using.
Let's ;put everything else aside for the moment and discuss a
very simple question. Can you use the version of the weather
add-on you currently have? If it does what you want and you
don't want to upgrade NVDA, then use the current version of the
add-on. If you can no longer use it later, then worry about
upgrading NVDA.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 1:08 PM, Gene wrote:
If you are saying you lose speech when you try to
install the add-on, I have no idea why. At this point, we
don't even know if the synthesizer you are using has anything
to do with the problem. You can try using a different
synthesizer, E-Speakk, for example.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:59 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
gene updated it by going to the site for some reason my
NVDA won't update with the new one with this speach thanks
will be back lader on.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The
Weather Add-On
What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see
what Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on uses
whatever voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you haven't
told us just how you are looking for an upgrade and what
happens.
Do you know that you can go to the web site and install the
current version of the add-on? You will be asked by NVDA at
some point if you want to install the new version. If you
say yes, the new version will be installed over the old
one. Any settings in the old one will be kept. You don't
have to upgrade by using the upgrade offered in the add-on
itself.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as
techey as some of you are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The
Weather Add-On
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
thanks did the best that I can.
-
To be clear, that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have both the latest NVDA
and the latest Weather Plus versions before this can
really go anywhere. If you don't have them, you now have
more than enough information to get them and get them
installed.
--
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Scratch most feminists
and underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex
object. The difference is that is not all
she wants to be.
~
Betty Rollin
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I generally don't do that. If other add-ons are being used, they
will become incompatible as new NVDA versions come out. But the
person may be able to do everything he wants to do using whatever
old version he is using of NVDA and whatever old add-ons he may be
using.
Many people reflexively update anything, whether there is a reason
to or not, which is why I asked the question about the old add-on.
I am trying to propose the easiest solution, given the possible
circumstances. If the person finds he can do less and less, then he
will look for solutions if the increasing lack of ability is
important to him.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 1:56 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
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at 02:32 PM, Gene wrote:
Can you use the version of the weather add-on you
currently have? If it does what you want and you don't want to
upgrade NVDA, then use the current version of the add-on. If
you can no longer use it later, then worry about upgrading NVDA.
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Gene,
Logic dictates that this issue has arisen with whatever versions
of NVDA and Weather Plus that Mr. Machise already has, or the
question would not have arisen in the first place.
But putting that aside, it is a very, very bad idea to suggest not
updating software in general as updates become available. This is
particularly so with NVDA and its add-ons.
Avoiding updates, except in rare occasions, just keeps digging a
deeper and deeper "compatibility/incompatibility" hole that is
going to eventually have to be gotten out of. There is a reason
that the group rules state: The discussion of software on
the NVDA Group is limited to software currently in support. Depending
on the type of software, specific version numbers will change
with time. Users are expected to know
what remains in support and what has been dropped, and
announcements will be made to this group when new software is
released. It should be assumed that, when a new version of
software is released, primary discussion will take place on that
version, not versions of software which are years old.
That's not there because it's my personal preference
(though I'll admit that it is) but because no software maker, and
certainly not NVAccess or Microsoft, is going to try to maintain
perpetual backward compatibility. Computing is a stream, and one
must really become accustomed to flowing with it as a matter of
best practice whenever possible. Eventually, choice completely
leaves the picture.
Even though NVDA remains compatible with Windows 7 at the moment,
the writing is clearly on the wall about that not continuing all
that much longer. Windows 8.1 is less than a year from sunset/end
of life. The expectation that the entire Windows ecosystem under
which NVDA and its add-ons are being used will be one that is in
support in order for it to be discussed here is not optional. I
continue to allow the discussion of NVDA under Windows 7 because
so long as it does remain backward compatible with Windows 7 that
version of NVDA remains on-topic. But upon release of the first
version of NVDA that is not compatible with Windows 7, then all
things Windows 7 and earlier will be, as they have been, relegated
to the Chat Subgroup or to other venues.
--
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Scratch most feminists and
underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex object. The
difference is that is not all she
wants to be.
~ Betty
Rollin
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yes. That is legal software. If that is what the person is using,
its fine to discuss it.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 2:08 PM, Christopher-Mark
Gilland wrote:
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Gene,
Is it permissible to discuss Eloquence on here, provided
strictly and firmly that we are talking about the legal code
factory version which they made for Sapi 5 speech? Again, let me
be 100 and ten billion percent clear here. I'm talking about the
$60, I think it is version, provided we've legitimately
purchased it, and can prove beyond a doubt if asked to do so,
that we have a licensed copy?
Chris.
On 4/4/2022 2:47 PM, Gene wrote:
One
thing you can do is run the latest NVDA as a portable version
and use a different voice. You would just use the portable
version with the weather program. If you are using the illegal
Eloquence add-on, it isn't allowed to discuss illegal software
on list so I won't discuss that further.
I will discuss, if you need to know, how to run NVDA as a
portable version and how to install the add-on in the portable
version.
I will also discuss how to use Microsoft Anna for speech.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 1:38 PM, Joseph Machise
wrote:
Gene can't add cities to the weather pluss
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
It appears you are saying you can't upgrade NVDA because the
current version is incompatible with the version of whatever
Eloquence add-on you are using.
Let's ;put everything else aside for the moment and discuss a
very simple question. Can you use the version of the weather
add-on you currently have? If it does what you want and you
don't want to upgrade NVDA, then use the current version of
the add-on. If you can no longer use it later, then worry
about upgrading NVDA.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 1:08 PM, Gene wrote:
If you are saying you lose speech when you try
to install the add-on, I have no idea why. At this point,
we don't even know if the synthesizer you are using has
anything to do with the problem. You can try using a
different synthesizer, E-Speakk, for example.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:59 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
gene updated it by going to the site for some reason
my NVDA won't update with the new one with this speach
thanks will be back lader on.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The
Weather Add-On
What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see
what Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on
uses whatever voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you
haven't told us just how you are looking for an upgrade
and what happens.
Do you know that you can go to the web site and install
the current version of the add-on? You will be asked by
NVDA at some point if you want to install the new
version. If you say yes, the new version will be
installed over the old one. Any settings in the old one
will be kept. You don't have to upgrade by using the
upgrade offered in the add-on itself.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as
techey as some of you are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The
Weather Add-On
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
thanks did the best that I can.
-
To be clear, that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have both the latest NVDA
and the latest Weather Plus versions before this can
really go anywhere. If you don't have them, you now
have more than enough information to get them and get
them installed.
--
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Scratch most
feminists and underneath there is a woman who longs
to be a sex object. The difference is that is not all
she wants to be.
~
Betty Rollin
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Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
OK, as that is what I'm using, but wanted to be sure it was OK
before down the road I'd did something I shouldn't.
Chris.
On 4/4/2022 3:10 PM, Gene wrote:
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yes. That is legal software. If that is what the person is
using, its fine to discuss it.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 2:08 PM, Christopher-Mark
Gilland wrote:
Gene,
Is it permissible to discuss Eloquence on here, provided
strictly and firmly that we are talking about the legal code
factory version which they made for Sapi 5 speech? Again, let
me be 100 and ten billion percent clear here. I'm talking
about the $60, I think it is version, provided we've
legitimately purchased it, and can prove beyond a doubt if
asked to do so, that we have a licensed copy?
Chris.
On 4/4/2022 2:47 PM, Gene wrote:
One
thing you can do is run the latest NVDA as a portable version
and use a different voice. You would just use the portable
version with the weather program. If you are using the
illegal Eloquence add-on, it isn't allowed to discuss illegal
software on list so I won't discuss that further.
I will discuss, if you need to know, how to run NVDA as a
portable version and how to install the add-on in the portable
version.
I will also discuss how to use Microsoft Anna for speech.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 1:38 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
Gene can't add cities to the weather pluss
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The
Weather Add-On
It appears you are saying you can't upgrade NVDA because the
current version is incompatible with the version of whatever
Eloquence add-on you are using.
Let's ;put everything else aside for the moment and discuss
a very simple question. Can you use the version of the
weather add-on you currently have? If it does what you want
and you don't want to upgrade NVDA, then use the current
version of the add-on. If you can no longer use it later,
then worry about upgrading NVDA.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 1:08 PM, Gene
wrote:
If you are saying you lose speech when you try
to install the add-on, I have no idea why. At this point,
we don't even know if the synthesizer you are using has
anything to do with the problem. You can try using a
different synthesizer, E-Speakk, for example.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:59 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
gene updated it by going to the site for some
reason my NVDA won't update with the new one with this
speach thanks will be back lader on.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The
Weather Add-On
What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see
what Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on
uses whatever voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you
haven't told us just how you are looking for an upgrade
and what happens.
Do you know that you can go to the web site and install
the current version of the add-on? You will be asked by
NVDA at some point if you want to install the new
version. If you say yes, the new version will be
installed over the old one. Any settings in the old one
will be kept. You don't have to upgrade by using the
upgrade offered in the add-on itself.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM,
Joseph Machise wrote:
my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not
as techey as some of you are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The
Weather Add-On
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
thanks did the best that I can.
-
To be clear, that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have both the latest
NVDA and the latest Weather Plus versions before this
can really go anywhere. If you don't have them, you
now have more than enough information to get them and
get them installed.
--
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Scratch most
feminists and underneath there is a woman who
longs to be a sex object. The difference is that
is not all she wants to
be.
~
Betty Rollin
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Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
And, if that's too hard, try one of the 1Core voices, or do those
not come with Win7. It's been years upon years since I used Win7,
so I don't really honestly recall.
Chris.
On 4/4/2022 2:08 PM, Gene wrote:
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If you are saying you lose speech when you try to install the
add-on, I have no idea why. At this point, we don't even know if
the synthesizer you are using has anything to do with the
problem. You can try using a different synthesizer, E-Speakk, for
example.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:59 PM, Joseph Machise
wrote:
gene updated it by going to the site for some reason my
NVDA won't update with the new one with this speach thanks
will be back lader on.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see what
Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on uses whatever
voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you haven't told us just
how you are looking for an upgrade and what happens.
Do you know that you can go to the web site and install the
current version of the add-on? You will be asked by NVDA at
some point if you want to install the new version. If you say
yes, the new version will be installed over the old one. Any
settings in the old one will be kept. You don't have to upgrade
by using the upgrade offered in the add-on itself.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as
techey as some of you are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
thanks did the best that I can.
-
To be clear, that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have both the latest NVDA and
the latest Weather Plus versions before this can really go
anywhere. If you don't have them, you now have more than
enough information to get them and get them installed.
--
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Scratch most feminists and
underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex object.
The difference is that is not all
she wants to be.
~ Betty
Rollin
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|
They don't come with Windows 7.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 2:14 PM, Christopher-Mark
Gilland wrote:
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And, if that's too hard, try one of the 1Core voices, or do
those not come with Win7. It's been years upon years since I
used Win7, so I don't really honestly recall.
Chris.
On 4/4/2022 2:08 PM, Gene wrote:
If
you are saying you lose speech when you try to install the
add-on, I have no idea why. At this point, we don't even know
if the synthesizer you are using has anything to do with the
problem. You can try using a different synthesizer, E-Speakk,
for example.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:59 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
gene updated it by going to the site for some reason my
NVDA won't update with the new one with this speach thanks
will be back lader on.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather
Add-On
What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see what
Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on uses
whatever voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you haven't
told us just how you are looking for an upgrade and what
happens.
Do you know that you can go to the web site and install the
current version of the add-on? You will be asked by NVDA at
some point if you want to install the new version. If you say
yes, the new version will be installed over the old one. Any
settings in the old one will be kept. You don't have to
upgrade by using the upgrade offered in the add-on itself.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as
techey as some of you are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The
Weather Add-On
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
thanks did the best that I can.
-
To be clear, that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have both the latest NVDA and
the latest Weather Plus versions before this can really go
anywhere. If you don't have them, you now have more than
enough information to get them and get them installed.
--
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Scratch most feminists
and underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex
object. The difference is that is not all
she wants to be.
~ Betty
Rollin
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Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
Oh, oopsy. OK, sorry 'bout that.
Chris.
On 4/4/2022 3:27 PM, Gene wrote:
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They don't come with Windows 7.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 2:14 PM, Christopher-Mark
Gilland wrote:
And, if that's too hard, try one of the 1Core voices, or do
those not come with Win7. It's been years upon years since I
used Win7, so I don't really honestly recall.
Chris.
On 4/4/2022 2:08 PM, Gene wrote:
If
you are saying you lose speech when you try to install the
add-on, I have no idea why. At this point, we don't even know
if the synthesizer you are using has anything to do with the
problem. You can try using a different synthesizer, E-Speakk,
for example.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:59 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
gene updated it by going to the site for some reason my
NVDA won't update with the new one with this speach thanks
will be back lader on.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The
Weather Add-On
What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see
what Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on uses
whatever voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you haven't
told us just how you are looking for an upgrade and what
happens.
Do you know that you can go to the web site and install the
current version of the add-on? You will be asked by NVDA at
some point if you want to install the new version. If you
say yes, the new version will be installed over the old
one. Any settings in the old one will be kept. You don't
have to upgrade by using the upgrade offered in the add-on
itself.
Gene
On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph
Machise wrote:
my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as
techey as some of you are.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The
Weather Add-On
On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote:
thanks did the best that I can.
-
To be clear, that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have both the latest NVDA
and the latest Weather Plus versions before this can
really go anywhere. If you don't have them, you now have
more than enough information to get them and get them
installed.
--
Brian - Windows
10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044
Scratch most feminists
and underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex
object. The difference is that is not all
she wants to be.
~
Betty Rollin
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Sarah k Alawami
No that does not come with win7. I can’t remember if sapi 5 voices will work with 7, it’s been 5 years since I touched a win7 machine.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 12:15 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather Add-On And, if that's too hard, try one of the 1Core voices, or do those not come with Win7. It's been years upon years since I used Win7, so I don't really honestly recall. Chris. On 4/4/2022 2:08 PM, Gene wrote: If you are saying you lose speech when you try to install the add-on, I have no idea why. At this point, we don't even know if the synthesizer you are using has anything to do with the problem. You can try using a different synthesizer, E-Speakk, for example.
Gene On 4/4/2022 12:59 PM, Joseph Machise wrote: gene updated it by going to the site for some reason my NVDA won't update with the new one with this speach thanks will be back lader on. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather Add-On What problem are you having with eloquence? I don't see what Eloquence has to do with the problem. The add-on uses whatever voice you are using with NVDA. Also, you haven't told us just how you are looking for an upgrade and what happens.
Do you know that you can go to the web site and install the current version of the add-on? You will be asked by NVDA at some point if you want to install the new version. If you say yes, the new version will be installed over the old one. Any settings in the old one will be kept. You don't have to upgrade by using the upgrade offered in the add-on itself.
Gene On 4/4/2022 12:29 PM, Joseph Machise wrote: my windows7 won't take it with the eloquence not as techey as some of you are. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, April 04, 2022 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Adding A City To The Weather Add-On On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM, Joseph Machise wrote: thanks did the best that I can.
- To be clear, that was directed at Adriano.
You have to make sure that you have both the latest NVDA and the latest Weather Plus versions before this can really go anywhere. If you don't have them, you now have more than enough information to get them and get them installed. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044 Scratch most feminists and underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex object. The difference is that is not all she wants to be. ~ Betty Rollin
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