addon updater


Don H
 

Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the latest version of the addon updater addon. When I go to tools in the NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a error with no info as to what went wrong.


Gene
 

I expect we will see all sorts of traffic on what looks like a serious problem that started today.  I suspect this is one sign.
 
Here is information about the problem.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:08 PM
Subject: [nvda] addon updater
 
Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the
latest version of the addon updater addon.  When I go to tools in the
NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a
error with no info as to what went wrong.





Clement Chou
 

The devices offline would have to be the servers for NVDA then...
because I'm getting the same dialogue box when I check for addon
updates as well as NVDA updates themselves. My internet is working
fine here. :)

On 9/30/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I expect we will see all sorts of traffic on what looks like a serious
problem that started today. I suspect this is one sign.

Here is information about the problem.
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/internet-disconnect-sept-30https://www.tomsguide.com/news/internet-disconnect-sept-30


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] addon updater

Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the
latest version of the addon updater addon. When I go to tools in the
NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a
error with no info as to what went wrong.










Gene
 

It has nothing to do with anything being off line.  Please read the information, or some of it, at the link I gave. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater
 
The devices offline would have to be the servers for NVDA then...
because I'm getting the same dialogue box when I check for addon
updates as well as NVDA updates themselves. My internet is working
fine here. :)

On 9/30/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I expect we will see all sorts of traffic on what looks like a serious
> problem that started today.  I suspect this is one sign.
>
> Here is information about the problem.
> https://www.tomsguide.com/news/internet-disconnect-sept-30https://www.tomsguide.com/news/internet-disconnect-sept-30
>
>
> Gene
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don H
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:08 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] addon updater
>
> Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the
> latest version of the addon updater addon.  When I go to tools in the
> NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a
> error with no info as to what went wrong.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





 

Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer (more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't - connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph


Clement Chou
 

I just tried going to the website and running both update checks
again. Still the same error over here.

On 9/30/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the
workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your
preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that
folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA
update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates
every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer
(more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web
trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't -
connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would
inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph






 

Well interestingly enough when I got home yesterday it worked again but its broken today.

On 1/10/2021 8:23 am, Clement Chou wrote:
I just tried going to the website and running both update checks
again. Still the same error over here.

On 9/30/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the
workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your
preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that
folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA
update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates
every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer
(more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web
trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't -
connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would
inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph







 

Hmmm I have experienced this on multiple windows 10 computers at multiple locations.

It also effects nvdas own checking for updates and this was on 2 different network previders and 3 computers.

2 of them wireless, one wired, 2 in the same location.

So it can't just be windows, its also effecting the update check in help.

But yeah, who knows could be anything I guess.

Of course its not a showstopper I'll just have to get my updates manually.



On 1/10/2021 7:26 am, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer (more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't - connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph


 

Well just out of interest I ran the portable nvda a new one on a test system and still couldn't get the latest check for nvda itself no addons at all so maybe something is screwing up generally.

I have noticed this with some other services so maybe its just due to covid and net use there are overloads at different times of the day or something.

The sites are themselves online or at least their web bits are and github is online so it must be whatever the databases are on which is the issue.

I mean I can send the log, there is this huge exception generated dump of stuff.

Obviously I won't be dumping this to the list because its really long but still.

On 1/10/2021 6:35 am, Clement Chou wrote:
The devices offline would have to be the servers for NVDA then...
because I'm getting the same dialogue box when I check for addon
updates as well as NVDA updates themselves. My internet is working
fine here. :)

On 9/30/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I expect we will see all sorts of traffic on what looks like a serious
problem that started today. I suspect this is one sign.

Here is information about the problem.
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/internet-disconnect-sept-30https://www.tomsguide.com/news/internet-disconnect-sept-30


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] addon updater

Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the
latest version of the addon updater addon. When I go to tools in the
NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a
error with no info as to what went wrong.











 

Well this is all well and good jean, but windows 10 devices, hmph.

I understand maybe xp and consoles.

I think most phones don't use android 2 anymore, but I guess windows xp is literally dead now.

The rest I don't know.

I mean I am still getting updates.

I guess we will have to wait till servers get the new certs.




On 1/10/2021 6:28 am, Gene wrote:
I expect we will see all sorts of traffic on what looks like a serious problem that started today.  I suspect this is one sign.
 
Here is information about the problem.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:08 PM
Subject: [nvda] addon updater
 
Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the
latest version of the addon updater addon.  When I go to tools in the
NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a
error with no info as to what went wrong.





 

yeah, same to.

Just for completeness.

"start of log dump"

ERROR - stderr (08:34:43.594) - Thread-4 (10356):
Exception in thread Thread-4:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonHandlerEx.py", line 377, in checkForAddonUpdates
    info = checkForAddonUpdate(curAddons)
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonHandlerEx.py", line 324, in checkForAddonUpdate
    raise RuntimeError("Failed to retrieve community add-ons")
RuntimeError: Failed to retrieve community add-ons

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "threading.pyc", line 926, in _bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyc", line 870, in run
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonGuiEx.py", line 62, in addonUpdateCheck
    info = addonHandlerEx.checkForAddonUpdates()
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonHandlerEx.py", line 380, in checkForAddonUpdates
    raise RuntimeError("Cannot check for community add-on updates")
RuntimeError: Cannot check for community add-on updates
ERROR - stderr (08:51:28.728) - Thread-6 (268):
Exception in thread Thread-6:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonHandlerEx.py", line 377, in checkForAddonUpdates
    info = checkForAddonUpdate(curAddons)
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonHandlerEx.py", line 324, in checkForAddonUpdate
    raise RuntimeError("Failed to retrieve community add-ons")
RuntimeError: Failed to retrieve community add-ons

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "threading.pyc", line 926, in _bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyc", line 870, in run
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonGuiEx.py", line 62, in addonUpdateCheck
    info = addonHandlerEx.checkForAddonUpdates()
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonHandlerEx.py", line 380, in checkForAddonUpdates
    raise RuntimeError("Cannot check for community add-on updates")
RuntimeError: Cannot check for community add-on updates

"end of dump"

The same is happening with the main updater but thats not logged either, ie I can't check for updates in nvda.

Note for those reading this, the quoted start and end of dump labels are there so you can skip past the log dump but there it is, no one has dumped this out there but in short yeah.


It happened yesterday, cleared for a few hours, then did it again today.

Since the main site is fine I wander if its a secondary server.

Strangely its not effected anything else though the tv suddenly got an update earlier in the week.

On 1/10/2021 6:08 am, Don H wrote:
Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the latest version of the addon updater addon.  When I go to tools in the NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a error with no info as to what went wrong.




Mary Otten
 

I just got 3 updates successfully downloaded by using the check for updates in the nvda tools menu. Add on updater, golden cursor and Windows essentials all downloaded and installed without any hitches.


Mary

On 9/30/2021 12:35 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well interestingly enough when I got home yesterday it worked again but its broken today.



On 1/10/2021 8:23 am, Clement Chou wrote:
I just tried going to the website and running both update checks
again. Still the same error over here.

On 9/30/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the
workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your
preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that
folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA
update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates
every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer
(more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web
trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't -
connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would
inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph










Chris
 

Not only get an error checking for addon updates, also checking for NVDA updates pops up the same error message

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: 30 September 2021 19:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater

 

Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer (more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't - connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Dejan Ristic
 

Hi from me,


Just to let you know that I'm unable to access the NV access site, nor am I able to do the add-on and/or NVDA updates.


Cheers,


Dejan

On 30/09/2021 22:33, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Not only get an error checking for addon updates, also checking for NVDA updates pops up the same error message

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: 30 September 2021 19:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater

 

Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer (more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't - connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


 

Wow, so its a bit hit and miss.

I am still getting errors.

Not that I have anything to download right now.

On 1/10/2021 9:22 am, Mary Otten wrote:
I just got 3 updates successfully downloaded by using the check for updates in the nvda tools menu. Add on updater, golden cursor and Windows essentials all downloaded and installed without any hitches.


Mary


On 9/30/2021 12:35 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well interestingly enough when I got home yesterday it worked again but its broken today.



On 1/10/2021 8:23 am, Clement Chou wrote:
I just tried going to the website and running both update checks
again. Still the same error over here.

On 9/30/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the
workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your
preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that
folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA
update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates
every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer
(more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web
trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't -
connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would
inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph













.


 

Its semi inconsistant, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

If its a cert is nvda itself needing an update with the right certs or something.

It can't effect a load of us and not others randomly.

Its on several systems I have and 2 networks, I even ran a copy without anything and its all its effecting.



On 1/10/2021 9:33 am, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Not only get an error checking for addon updates, also checking for NVDA updates pops up the same error message

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: 30 September 2021 19:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater

 

Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer (more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't - connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


 

I can access nvda-project.org, nvaccess.org and the nvaccess.com redirect just fine at least via the web.

I can download from both manually.

Just did an ipconfig/flushdns and I got back in.

So yeah who knows nvda updaters continue to refuse to work so if its a error on my end I should have had other things going on.



On 1/10/2021 9:46 am, Dejan Ristic wrote:

Hi from me,


Just to let you know that I'm unable to access the NV access site, nor am I able to do the add-on and/or NVDA updates.


Cheers,


Dejan

On 30/09/2021 22:33, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Not only get an error checking for addon updates, also checking for NVDA updates pops up the same error message

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: 30 September 2021 19:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater

 

Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer (more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't - connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Gene
 

Your assumption, though it appears logical, isn’t correct.  Firefox doesn’t rely on Windows for certification.  It has its own certifications, or whatever the correct term is.
 
Chrome browsers and browsers in general rely on Windows for certification.  I don’t know if you are using Windows 10 if version matters nor do I know if whether your updates are current matters.  But without more information about what people are using, generalizations can’t be made.
 
Gene.

-----Original Message-----
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater
 

I can access nvda-project.org, nvaccess.org and the nvaccess.com redirect just fine at least via the web.

I can download from both manually.

Just did an ipconfig/flushdns and I got back in.

So yeah who knows nvda updaters continue to refuse to work so if its a error on my end I should have had other things going on.

 

 

On 1/10/2021 9:46 am, Dejan Ristic wrote:

Hi from me,

 

Just to let you know that I'm unable to access the NV access site, nor am I able to do the add-on and/or NVDA updates.

 

Cheers,

 

Dejan

On 30/09/2021 22:33, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Not only get an error checking for addon updates, also checking for NVDA updates pops up the same error message

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: 30 September 2021 19:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater

 

Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer (more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't - connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


 

Hmmm just tried in edge and still can get access.

I just got the latest windows optional cu, so if I had a bad cert, well I wouldn't be able to get updates and windows automatically gets them.



On 1/10/2021 10:51 am, Gene wrote:
Your assumption, though it appears logical, isn’t correct.  Firefox doesn’t rely on Windows for certification.  It has its own certifications, or whatever the correct term is.
 
Chrome browsers and browsers in general rely on Windows for certification.  I don’t know if you are using Windows 10 if version matters nor do I know if whether your updates are current matters.  But without more information about what people are using, generalizations can’t be made.
 
Gene.
-----Original Message-----
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater
 

I can access nvda-project.org, nvaccess.org and the nvaccess.com redirect just fine at least via the web.

I can download from both manually.

Just did an ipconfig/flushdns and I got back in.

So yeah who knows nvda updaters continue to refuse to work so if its a error on my end I should have had other things going on.

 

 

On 1/10/2021 9:46 am, Dejan Ristic wrote:

Hi from me,

 

Just to let you know that I'm unable to access the NV access site, nor am I able to do the add-on and/or NVDA updates.

 

Cheers,

 

Dejan

On 30/09/2021 22:33, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Not only get an error checking for addon updates, also checking for NVDA updates pops up the same error message

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: 30 September 2021 19:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater

 

Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer (more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't - connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Gene
 

I don’t know how the add-on determines if the site has proper certification.  I would think others could discuss that.  It may be that the add-on can’t determine the site is certified.  The first discussion today was about the update add-on and that was what I mainly intended to comment on, though I did comment on browsers in my last message. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater
 

Hmmm just tried in edge and still can get access.

I just got the latest windows optional cu, so if I had a bad cert, well I wouldn't be able to get updates and windows automatically gets them.

 

 

On 1/10/2021 10:51 am, Gene wrote:
Your assumption, though it appears logical, isn’t correct.  Firefox doesn’t rely on Windows for certification.  It has its own certifications, or whatever the correct term is.
 
Chrome browsers and browsers in general rely on Windows for certification.  I don’t know if you are using Windows 10 if version matters nor do I know if whether your updates are current matters.  But without more information about what people are using, generalizations can’t be made.
 
Gene.
-----Original Message-----
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater
 

I can access nvda-project.org, nvaccess.org and the nvaccess.com redirect just fine at least via the web.

I can download from both manually.

Just did an ipconfig/flushdns and I got back in.

So yeah who knows nvda updaters continue to refuse to work so if its a error on my end I should have had other things going on.

 

 

On 1/10/2021 9:46 am, Dejan Ristic wrote:

Hi from me,

 

Just to let you know that I'm unable to access the NV access site, nor am I able to do the add-on and/or NVDA updates.

 

Cheers,

 

Dejan

On 30/09/2021 22:33, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Not only get an error checking for addon updates, also checking for NVDA updates pops up the same error message

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: 30 September 2021 19:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater

 

Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer (more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't - connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com